From k.j.riley at hud.ac.uk Fri Sep 1 00:25:43 2006 From: k.j.riley at hud.ac.uk (Kevin Riley) Date: Fri Sep 1 00:26:35 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Keyboard fault? Message-ID: <9AFDB5D3109B334B993A4313914FFDF1047392C7@maggie.AD.HUD.AC.UK> Hi, I'm a little confused as to wether this is a fault or not...when using the apple keys, the ones either side of my keboard on my macbook pro, sometimes only the left hand side one has the desired effect. For instance, to open a new tab in Safari, press the right apple key + T and I get an error bong...same thing with the left apple key results in a new tab!? I have attempted to test the keyboard with the keyboard viewer basically lights up both apple keys at the same time when I press either one... Is this a fault or merely a "quirk" of OSX? Kevin Riley This transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you receive it in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and remove it from your system. If the content of this e-mail does not relate to the business of the University of Huddersfield, then we do not endorse it and will accept no liability. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20060901/0ac91f6c/attachment.html From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Fri Sep 1 07:28:57 2006 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Fri Sep 1 07:29:07 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Keyboard fault? In-Reply-To: <9AFDB5D3109B334B993A4313914FFDF1047392C7@maggie.AD.HUD.AC.UK> References: <9AFDB5D3109B334B993A4313914FFDF1047392C7@maggie.AD.HUD.AC.UK> Message-ID: <156E222B-64F2-4D60-A733-3FAC84665417@earthlink.net> I have noticed that in a lot of applications, the key combos listed in the menus are wrong. On Sep 1, 2006, at 3:25 AM, Kevin Riley wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a little confused as to wether this is a fault or not?when > using the apple keys, the ones either side of my keboard on my > macbook pro, sometimes only the left hand side one has the desired > effect. For instance, to open a new tab in Safari, press the right > apple key + T and I get an error bong?same thing with the left > apple key results in a new tab!? > > I have attempted to test the keyboard with the keyboard viewer > basically lights up both apple keys at the same time when I press > either one? > > Is this a fault or merely a "quirk" of OSX? > > Kevin Riley > > --- > This transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. If > you receive it in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and > remove it from your system. If the content of this e-mail does not > relate to the business of the University of Huddersfield, then we > do not endorse it and will accept no liability. > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From chris at mymac.demon.co.uk Fri Sep 1 10:30:30 2006 From: chris at mymac.demon.co.uk (Chris) Date: Fri Sep 1 10:30:44 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] TEST Message-ID: <20060901173030.2374@post.demon.co.uk> This is a test as I think I've been put on an anti-spam blacklist. From cybarb at mac.com Fri Sep 1 10:36:26 2006 From: cybarb at mac.com (Cy) Date: Fri Sep 1 10:36:38 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] TEST In-Reply-To: <20060901173030.2374@post.demon.co.uk> References: <20060901173030.2374@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: OK here. On Sep 1, 2006, at 1:30 PM, Chris wrote: > This is a test as I think I've been put on an anti-spam blacklist. > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From chris at mymac.demon.co.uk Fri Sep 1 10:40:18 2006 From: chris at mymac.demon.co.uk (Chris) Date: Fri Sep 1 10:40:28 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Safari Prefs Message-ID: <20060901174018.4507@post.demon.co.uk> Hi all, Sorry for the first msg but I thought I'd been put on an anti-spam list. Obviously I haven't - at least by this list. OK. I have my safari cookie prefs set to 'accept cookies only from sites I visit". After a while I find that this has altered to 'accept all'. I can't find a reason for it except that a rogue cookie alters the prefs. I don't think I have any spyware - Snitch doesn't report anything unusual. For the record I'm running as user. As a workround I've altered the permissions to, owner = admin and user = read only. However I'm curious as to what might be going on. cheers, Chris From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 1 10:50:54 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Sep 1 10:51:01 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] TEST In-Reply-To: <20060901173030.2374@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20060901175054.25013.qmail@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chris your right and the only way off the list is to buy a new Mac... So get out there and have a fun and but safe Labor Day Weekend - ooop's your not in the states - o'well have a safe and fun short weekend! ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Chris wrote: > This is a test as I think I've been put on an > anti-spam blacklist. > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From chris at mymac.demon.co.uk Fri Sep 1 11:02:14 2006 From: chris at mymac.demon.co.uk (Chris) Date: Fri Sep 1 11:02:26 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] TEST In-Reply-To: <20060901175054.25013.qmail@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060901173030.2374@post.demon.co.uk> <20060901175054.25013.qmail@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060901180214.29253@post.demon.co.uk> Hi Richard: >So get out there and have a fun and but safe Labor Day >Weekend - ooop's your not in the states - o'well have >a safe and fun short weekend! At least you call yours Labour Day. Ours is just another of the 'bank' holidays. To all you US guys - have a good one. Won't be long before Thanksgiving, which we don't celebrate over here. Chris :-) >------------------------------------------------------------ > >--- Chris wrote: > >> This is a test as I think I've been put on an >> anti-spam blacklist. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X-Newbies mailing list >> X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage >> Mac and random stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > >_______________________________________________ >X-Newbies mailing list >X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From Robert at Ameeti.net Fri Sep 1 12:23:43 2006 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Fri Sep 1 12:24:01 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] TEST In-Reply-To: <20060901173030.2374@post.demon.co.uk> References: <20060901173030.2374@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: At 6:30 PM +0100, 9/1/06, Chris wrote: >This is a test as I think I've been put on an anti-spam blacklist. Rather than sending a 'test' to hundreds of users, I'm always of the thought that perhaps list users might think of some question that they've always wondered about but never asked. Or perhaps a hint or trick that they've recently learned. Just a bit less wasted bandwidth and all. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti I don't even butter my bread. I consider that cooking. -- Katherine Cebrian <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From 4.oiseaux at wanadoo.fr Sun Sep 3 03:10:55 2006 From: 4.oiseaux at wanadoo.fr (Keith Mills) Date: Sun Sep 3 03:11:33 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Appleworks not responding In-Reply-To: <9FF57B23-C77D-4089-8633-7B9DD6A7EC05@optonline.net> References: <7ACE8D8C-381D-11DB-845D-000A95B88C7C@wanadoo.fr> <9FF57B23-C77D-4089-8633-7B9DD6A7EC05@optonline.net> Message-ID: <7CCDBA05-3B34-11DB-8177-000A95B88C7C@wanadoo.fr> Thank you to everybody who came up with solutions; I am grateful. I tried to follow your instructions and can now use Appleworks again, but not without some heartache, and probably not as you all anticipated. Perhaps there are some of us who just shouldn't be allowed into the 21st Century! The current situation. 1. I now have two Appleworks 6 symbols on the dock; the orginal and a much larger (?older style) version. 2. When I start up in the morning, I cannot go straight into a document (letter/data-base); all I get is the spinning beachball. The only way out is to Force Quit 3. Each morning, I have to start a document with the larger, newcomer Appleworks symbol; then save/discard, whatever. Then I can use all my Appleworks documents as normal - until the next time I switch off and restart; when I have to do the same thing again! And one other thing. If I use spell-check, the document quits and I have to get going again as in 3. above. Any ideas? Thank you Keith > On Aug 30, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Keith Mills wrote: > >> Hello everyone and Help! >> >> Until last night, Appleworks was working; I wrote a couple of letters >> and updated a database. This morning (I always switch off overnght), >> it is not responding. All I get is the spinning ball. Everything but >> Appleworks seems to be working normally. >> >> Any ideas please. >> >> Thank you in advance >> Keith > > -- > Define: De thing you get for breaking de law. > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From robertmacleay at mac.com Sun Sep 3 11:41:39 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Sun Sep 3 11:42:27 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Appleworks not responding In-Reply-To: <7CCDBA05-3B34-11DB-8177-000A95B88C7C@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: I checked two copies of AppleWorks which I happen to have. The AppleWorks 6.2.2 folder measures 56 MB; the application inside it (which is really another folder) measures 23.7 MB. The AppleWorks 6.2.9 folder measures 60.4 MB; the application inside it (which is really another folder) measures 23.6 MB. By placing the mouse cursor over the icons in your Dock and holding the mouse button down, you will get a pop-up menu, one of whose options is to show the application in question in the Finder, where you can examine it. If you have anything substantially less than these numbers, I would guess you have a crippled copy. This happens. Clever people tell each other "AppleWorks is way too big because it contains all these resources you never, ever use. Here's how you can Save Lots of Disk Space by throwing out the non-essentials." It was a popular sport about the time the PPC chips came out, and enjoyed a renaissance during the OS X switchover as well. Certain applications require certain fonts. IF these fonts have been removed from the system or replaced with different versions with the same name, you can also have weird troubles. HTH, Robert On 9/3/06 4:10 AM, "Keith Mills" <4.oiseaux@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > Thank you to everybody who came up with solutions; I am grateful. I > tried to follow your instructions and can now use Appleworks again, but > not without some heartache, and probably not as you all anticipated. > > Perhaps there are some of us who just shouldn't be allowed into the > 21st Century! > > The current situation. > 1. I now have two Appleworks 6 symbols on the dock; the orginal and a > much larger (?older style) version. > 2. When I start up in the morning, I cannot go straight into a document > (letter/data-base); all I get is the spinning beachball. The only way > out is to Force Quit > 3. Each morning, I have to start a document with the larger, newcomer > Appleworks symbol; then save/discard, whatever. Then I can use all my > Appleworks documents as normal - until the next time I switch off and > restart; when I have to do the same thing again! > And one other thing. If I use spell-check, the document quits and I > have to get going again as in 3. above. > > Any ideas? > Thank you > Keith From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Sun Sep 3 18:32:28 2006 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (Tony Johansen) Date: Sun Sep 3 18:32:35 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Appleworks not responding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > On 9/3/06 4:10 AM, "Keith Mills" <4.oiseaux@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >> Perhaps there are some of us who just shouldn't be allowed into the >> 21st Century! Keith, On the contrary, come on in. I think the problems grow when people come just half way instead of all the way. Personally I would simply abandon AppleWorks in favor of Pages. If you have not used it, then you are missing out on a truly delightful program to use, and it can open and work with all of your Appleworks files. The learning curve is small as it is so logically put together and it easily saves documents as PDF, Word, HTML, RTF, etc as well as Pages format. If your Appleworks problems persist and you need to start thinking about starting again from the beginning, then I would encourage looking at Pages as a realistic option. Most people who try it love it almost instantly, especially if their orientation is toward graphics and design. Tony http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Sun Sep 3 18:43:45 2006 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Sun Sep 3 18:43:56 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Appleworks not responding In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FF41EDD-CA2E-419A-AD18-DC59084FC40E@earthlink.net> Sounds like the weird icon means the app just lost its association. In X, when you trash certain prefs, you must reassociate all your applications otherwise you get a weird old fashioned icon. I would reinstall Appleworks is all and make sure the .app is not removed from after it. On Sep 3, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Tony Johansen wrote: > >> >> On 9/3/06 4:10 AM, "Keith Mills" <4.oiseaux@wanadoo.fr> wrote: >>> Perhaps there are some of us who just shouldn't be allowed into the >>> 21st Century! > > > Keith, > On the contrary, come on in. I think the problems grow when people > come just > half way instead of all the way. Personally I would simply abandon > AppleWorks in favor of Pages. If you have not used it, then you are > missing > out on a truly delightful program to use, and it can open and work > with all > of your Appleworks files. The learning curve is small as it is so > logically > put together and it easily saves documents as PDF, Word, HTML, RTF, > etc as > well as Pages format. > > If your Appleworks problems persist and you need to start thinking > about > starting again from the beginning, then I would encourage looking > at Pages > as a realistic option. Most people who try it love it almost > instantly, > especially if their orientation is toward graphics and design. > > > Tony > http://www.tonyjohansen.com > A Life Of Art > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 4 09:48:04 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Mon Sep 4 09:48:06 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Carbon Copy Cloner Message-ID: <20060904164804.55678.qmail@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Morning All I need a straight forward answer to a simple question about the use of CCC Software. I have a 40 GB hard drive serving as my bootable drive and it filling up - at present it?s about 95% full. I want to relocate the contains of this drive to a new 60 GB hard drive which has been primed and is ready to go. It?s my understanding that using CCC , I can clone my drive onto the second 60 GB hard drive and then use the cloned item as my new bootable drive. Thus allowing me to clean and reuse my older 40 GB drive as a second backup drive Am I correct in my thinking? Any help or direction would be helpful Thanks all and I trust all are having a fun and safe labor Day Week! From robertmacleay at mac.com Mon Sep 4 10:06:33 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Mon Sep 4 10:06:42 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Carbon Copy Cloner In-Reply-To: <20060904164804.55678.qmail@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, with a big gotcha... The second drive must have booting supported. For instance, if both drives are internal to your Mac, no problem. But if the second one is an external USB drive, you can clone it successfully, but be unable to boot because pre-Macintel Macs simply won't boot off any USB drive, no matter what is on them. You could, however, remove a cloned drive from its USB enclosure and install it inside your Mac, and boot off of it. I have done this. Finally, investigate SuperDuper! as an alternative to CCC; It offers everything CCC does and more, especially for incremental backups. On 9/4/06 10:48 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > Morning All > > I need a straight forward answer to a simple question > about the use of CCC Software. > > I have a 40 GB hard drive serving as my bootable drive > and it filling up - at present it?s about 95% full. > > I want to relocate the contains of this drive to a new > 60 GB hard drive which has been primed and is ready to > go. > > It?s my understanding that using CCC , I can clone my > drive onto the second 60 GB hard drive and then use > the cloned item as my new bootable drive. Thus > allowing me to clean and reuse my older 40 GB drive as > a second backup drive > > Am I correct in my thinking? > > Any help or direction would be helpful > > Thanks all and I trust all are having a fun and safe > labor Day Week! From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 4 12:24:14 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Mon Sep 4 12:24:19 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] A few "AutoLaunch" Questions... Message-ID: <20060904192414.30684.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Afternoon Folks I guess this is the kind of day/weekend to ask a few stupid question and hope for a few educated answers! So here goes... I got a question or two about the above application... On start up this application normally pop's up and generally i simple cancel it but i have noticed the following... For one it always ask the question "Where is Norton Personal firewall app?" - a application I did away with long ago! It also displays a number application repeatedly - 2 3 or even 4 times all neatly in alphabetical order - how can I remove these extra item from the listings and how do I answer the question? Thanks in advance and have a good and safe weekend! From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 4 12:31:50 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Mon Sep 4 12:31:57 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Carbon Copy Cloner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060904193150.83774.qmail@web81410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Robert Thanks for the information. Both of my hard drives are internal and show up on the System profile of my Quicksilver 733 and i currently using 10.3.9. But I'm now having problems changing my system preferences - the bottom line the second drive does show up on the start up disk window - what up? By the way does "SuperDuper" product a better product in the end? Rich ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Robert MacLeay wrote: > Yes, with a big gotcha... > > The second drive must have booting supported. > > For instance, if both drives are internal to your > Mac, no problem. > > But if the second one is an external USB drive, you > can clone it > successfully, but be unable to boot because > pre-Macintel Macs simply won't > boot off any USB drive, no matter what is on them. > > You could, however, remove a cloned drive from its > USB enclosure and install > it inside your Mac, and boot off of it. I have done > this. > > Finally, investigate SuperDuper! as an alternative > to CCC; > It offers everything CCC does and more, especially > for incremental backups. > > On 9/4/06 10:48 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" > wrote: > > > Morning All > > > > I need a straight forward answer to a simple > question > > about the use of CCC Software. > > > > I have a 40 GB hard drive serving as my bootable > drive > > and it filling up - at present it?s about 95% > full. > > > > I want to relocate the contains of this drive to a > new > > 60 GB hard drive which has been primed and is > ready to > > go. > > > > It?s my understanding that using CCC , I can clone > my > > drive onto the second 60 GB hard drive and then > use > > the cloned item as my new bootable drive. Thus > > allowing me to clean and reuse my older 40 GB > drive as > > a second backup drive > > > > Am I correct in my thinking? > > > > Any help or direction would be helpful > > > > Thanks all and I trust all are having a fun and > safe > > labor Day Week! > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From robertmacleay at mac.com Mon Sep 4 13:27:51 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Mon Sep 4 13:28:03 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Carbon Copy Cloner In-Reply-To: <20060904193150.83774.qmail@web81410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Does not show up, I expect you mean. You may not have selected the "make bootable" option in CCC. I like SuperDuper! (www.shirt-pocket.com) so much I paid my shareware fee. It is much more user-friendly, in that after you make your selections, it analyzes them and then tells you what it's going to do; much less chance of making a mistake. Also, IIRC something in CCC was broken by Panther and never fixed. CCC has not been updated in three years. On 9/4/06 1:31 PM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > Robert > > Thanks for the information. > > Both of my hard drives are internal and show up on the > System profile of my Quicksilver 733 and i currently > using 10.3.9. But I'm now having problems changing my > system preferences - the bottom line the second drive > does show up on the start up disk window - what up? > > By the way does "SuperDuper" product a better product > in the end? From robertmacleay at mac.com Mon Sep 4 13:28:41 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Mon Sep 4 13:28:55 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] A few "AutoLaunch" Questions... In-Reply-To: <20060904192414.30684.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Assuming you are using Tiger: 1. Go to System Preferences:Accounts:Login Items 2. Select the offending application 3. Click the Delete (minus sign) button On 9/4/06 1:24 PM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > I got a question or two about the above application... > > On start up this application normally pop's up and > generally i simple cancel it but i have noticed the > following... > > For one it always ask the question "Where is Norton > Personal firewall app?" - a application I did away > with long ago! > > It also displays a number application repeatedly - 2 3 > or even 4 times all neatly in alphabetical order - how > can I remove these extra item from the listings and > how do I answer the question? From philip.robar at gmail.com Mon Sep 4 14:25:41 2006 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Mon Sep 4 14:25:52 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Carbon Copy Cloner In-Reply-To: <20060904193150.83774.qmail@web81410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060904193150.83774.qmail@web81410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sep 4, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > By the way does "SuperDuper" product a better product in the end? Yes. For one it's still being maintained and two, it has more features including incremental backups and the ability to upgrade your OS and roll back if the upgrade doesn't go well. Phil From markwt at mac.com Mon Sep 4 21:18:54 2006 From: markwt at mac.com (Mark Taintor) Date: Mon Sep 4 21:19:05 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Carbon Copy Cloner In-Reply-To: <20060904164804.55678.qmail@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Richard, This wasn't exactly your question, but I recently did this, using SuperDuper as my backup/cloning software. I had a 40 GB hard drive that was nearly full, I installed a much larger additional, internal drive which I cloned and made my new startup drive. It couldn't have been simpler and worked wonderfully with the exception that I had to fix my items on the dock so that they'd work the way I was used to. In addition, some of my browsers continued to download to my old hard drive until I changed those settings in the preferences. Otherwise, very simple. Sorry, can't help with CCC, but consider this another testimonial for SuperDuper. It's worth the money in my book. Regards, Mark On Monday, September 4, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Morning All > > I need a straight forward answer to a simple question > about the use of CCC Software. > > I have a 40 GB hard drive serving as my bootable drive > and it filling up - at present it?s about 95% full. > > I want to relocate the contains of this drive to a new > 60 GB hard drive which has been primed and is ready to > go. > > It?s my understanding that using CCC , I can clone my > drive onto the second 60 GB hard drive and then use > the cloned item as my new bootable drive. Thus > allowing me to clean and reuse my older 40 GB drive as > a second backup drive > > Am I correct in my thinking? > > Any help or direction would be helpful > > Thanks all and I trust all are having a fun and safe > labor Day Week! > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 4 21:35:55 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Mon Sep 4 21:36:02 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Carbon Copy Cloner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mark and the rest of you guys... I wish to thank all who offered there help - it was all very helpful. And yes I was able to solve my problems and get my hard drives switch around but not by using CCC or even SuperDuper - I used the simplest of all - I used Apple?s own Disk Utility/Restore and it work the first time out of the bag! Rich ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Mark Taintor wrote: > Richard, > This wasn't exactly your question, but I recently > did this, using > SuperDuper as my backup/cloning software. I had a 40 > GB hard drive that > was nearly full, I installed a much larger > additional, internal drive > which I cloned and made my new startup drive. It > couldn't have been > simpler and worked wonderfully with the exception > that I had to fix my > items on the dock so that they'd work the way I was > used to. In > addition, some of my browsers continued to download > to my old hard > drive until I changed those settings in the > preferences. Otherwise, > very simple. > Sorry, can't help with CCC, but consider this > another testimonial for > SuperDuper. It's worth the money in my book. > Regards, > Mark > > On Monday, September 4, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Richard > Ramsowr wrote: > > > Morning All > > > > I need a straight forward answer to a simple > question > > about the use of CCC Software. > > > > I have a 40 GB hard drive serving as my bootable > drive > > and it filling up - at present it?s about 95% > full. > > > > I want to relocate the contains of this drive to a > new > > 60 GB hard drive which has been primed and is > ready to > > go. > > > > It?s my understanding that using CCC , I can clone > my > > drive onto the second 60 GB hard drive and then > use > > the cloned item as my new bootable drive. Thus > > allowing me to clean and reuse my older 40 GB > drive as > > a second backup drive > > > > Am I correct in my thinking? > > > > Any help or direction would be helpful > > > > Thanks all and I trust all are having a fun and > safe > > labor Day Week! > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From beamis at drizzle.com Fri Sep 8 15:53:01 2006 From: beamis at drizzle.com (Chris Beamis) Date: Fri Sep 8 15:53:15 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> On a dual 867MHz mirrored drive doors model, with freshly installed 10.4.7, I have the original 57.3GB hard drive with only about 1.5GB free right this minute, and I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as the slave. I have disk utility poised to do something but I'm not sure exactly what to do. I had originally conceived of using this new drive purely for backup, but with the original drive nearly full I must use at least part of the disk for data. So I'm thinking now of trying to figure out some way to mount the new disk so that if I go to the command line, and type in something like > cd /Users then it will go to that directory like normal, except that my shell prompt will actually be on the new big disk at that point. Is this possible? My idea here is that we can then continue to hog up large amounts of disk space for pictures and tunes without ever knowing that our (us users') data exists on a different disk than the system, and hopefully then the original disk will always have lots of free space just for the system and applications. A later additional step will then will be to get something like about 500GB hard drive space and back up this whole mess to it (for the backup solution I originally meant for this one, plus we'll soon need to backup a Macbook). I found info about hdiutil at http://tinyurl.com/7yvvw but got overwhelmed. Too ignorant, need handholding. :) Am I asking for too much? If so, what's the most convenient way to store user data on the added drive, especially for the little missus who absolutely refuses to ever, under any circumstance, RTFM or do anything that involves understanding what's going on behind the scenes. Thanks for any help, Chris From robertmacleay at mac.com Fri Sep 8 16:41:30 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Fri Sep 8 16:41:42 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> Message-ID: On 9/8/06 4:53 PM, "Chris Beamis" wrote: > On a dual 867MHz mirrored drive doors model, with freshly installed > 10.4.7, I have the original 57.3GB hard drive with only about 1.5GB > free right this minute, and I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as > the slave. I have disk utility poised to do something but I'm not > sure exactly what to do. Your original hard disk is between three and four years old, assuming it is original to your MDD. Do you know the typical OEM warranty on disk drives? It's three years, for a reason. Based on years of experience of losing data due to failed hard drives, I would say that depending on that old a hard disk constitutes living dangerously. Move everything over to your new disk. If you wish, you can find a cheap ($25) external box for your old drive and use it for backup of critical files. Leaving it in a drawer, and turning it on only once a month, you can extend its life by years. From vcayenne at mac.com Fri Sep 8 16:54:22 2006 From: vcayenne at mac.com (Vincent Cayenne) Date: Fri Sep 8 16:54:39 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> Message-ID: At 3:53 PM -0700 9/8/06, Chris Beamis wrote: >I have the original 57.3GB hard drive with only about 1.5GB free >right this minute, and I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as the >slave. Download SuperDuper (search at MacUpdate.com), use it to clone the current master over to the big slave. Set the slave to be the startup drive. Shut down. Make the big disk the master and remove the original. Start up. Be happy. At your convenience, get a good, inexpensive external drive enclosure and put the original into it. Use it as emergency backup or whatever. Even before that, get another big disk and either put it into an external enclosure to use for backup or put it in as slave and use as a less safe backup... -- 'tis as said. [Reality is defined by being described] From chowse at charter.net Fri Sep 8 16:56:31 2006 From: chowse at charter.net (Charles Howse) Date: Fri Sep 8 16:56:42 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> Message-ID: <83BCA3E8-339F-4F95-B6E3-F3752F39BEDD@charter.net> On Sep 8, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Chris Beamis wrote: > I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as the slave. Can someone confirm that I can take an IDE drive from a PC and install it in my PowerMac G5 (early 2005) running 10.4.7? I searched around on Apple.com and Googled, but didn't find anything definitive. -- Bubba's Recipe Collection - http://bubbabbq.homeunix.net/recipes.html From vnelson at detectgeo.com Fri Sep 8 17:24:17 2006 From: vnelson at detectgeo.com (Vard Nelson) Date: Fri Sep 8 17:24:26 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> <83BCA3E8-339F-4F95-B6E3-F3752F39BEDD@charter.net> Message-ID: <020701c6d3a6$49e90e40$0300a8c0@DetectPC> From: "Charles Howse" > Can someone confirm that I can take an IDE drive from a PC and install it > in my PowerMac G5 (early 2005) running 10.4.7? > > I searched around on Apple.com and Googled, but didn't find anything > definitive. I see no reason why you can't because you purchase the same drive to put in a Mac as a PC. I do not know for certain whether it would need to be reformatted (initialized). Anybody else know that? I suspect it would just plug-and-play because you can access PC drives over the network just fine. My suspicion is probably worth about what I charged to put it here, though! From list-themacintoshguy at fsck.net Fri Sep 8 18:30:02 2006 From: list-themacintoshguy at fsck.net (Eugene) Date: Fri Sep 8 18:29:52 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: <83BCA3E8-339F-4F95-B6E3-F3752F39BEDD@charter.net> References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> <83BCA3E8-339F-4F95-B6E3-F3752F39BEDD@charter.net> Message-ID: <20060909013002.GB4433@core-age.local> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:56:31PM CDT, Charles Howse wrote: : : On Sep 8, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Chris Beamis wrote: : : >I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as the slave. : : Can someone confirm that I can take an IDE drive from a PC and : install it in my PowerMac G5 (early 2005) running 10.4.7? : : I searched around on Apple.com and Googled, but didn't find anything : definitive. Even though the last PowerMac G5 models went with Serial ATA for the hard drives, you can still connect an IDE hard drive to the internal Ultra ATA/100 bus that is connected to the CD/DVD drive. -- Eugene http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 8 18:54:01 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Sep 8 18:54:09 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... Message-ID: <20060909015401.80366.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Evening All I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone out there who might be willing to download me a copy? I guess IE 5 still works with OS X [10.4.7]? I have a very limited needed and my copy doesn?t want to open. Rich From robg at macosxhints.com Fri Sep 8 20:04:41 2006 From: robg at macosxhints.com (Rob Griffiths) Date: Fri Sep 8 20:05:31 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909015401.80366.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060909015401.80366.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <957A1622-293A-4A07-93C7-3CCA7820BEDE@macosxhints.com> On Sep 8, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone out > there who might be willing to download me a copy? This download URL still seems to work: http://www.download.com/Internet-Explorer/3000-2143_4-10209078.html -rob. From scott-xlists at scotist.com Fri Sep 8 20:39:29 2006 From: scott-xlists at scotist.com (Scott) Date: Fri Sep 8 20:39:51 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> Message-ID: <3E3B393B-E164-40BF-8D79-43AA13E26838@scotist.com> On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Vincent Cayenne wrote: > At 3:53 PM -0700 9/8/06, Chris Beamis wrote: >> I have the original 57.3GB hard drive with only about 1.5GB free >> right this minute, and I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as >> the slave. > > Download SuperDuper (search at MacUpdate.com), use it to clone the > current master over to the big slave. Set the slave to be the > startup drive. Shut down. Make the big disk the master and remove > the original. Start up. Be happy. Drives in an MDD should be set to cable select, not master/slave. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106960 -- Scott From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Fri Sep 8 22:18:41 2006 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (Tony Johansen) Date: Fri Sep 8 22:18:52 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909015401.80366.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9/9/2006 11:54 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone out > there who might be willing to download me a copy? > > I guess IE 5 still works with OS X [10.4.7]? > > I have a very limited needed and my copy doesn?t want > to open. Mine also has ceased to function properly. It seems the use-by date has passed for IE5.2 for Mac. If you have intel I would suggest simply using the latest IE for windows in Parallels or BootCamp. Tony http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art From srogers1 at austin.rr.com Fri Sep 8 22:55:10 2006 From: srogers1 at austin.rr.com (Steven Rogers) Date: Fri Sep 8 22:55:21 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <886FC00D-F72A-4CD3-921E-DE0FA54D0A68@austin.rr.com> On Sep 9, 2006, at 12:18 AM, Tony Johansen wrote: > On 9/9/2006 11:54 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" > wrote: >> I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone out >> there who might be willing to download me a copy? >> >> I guess IE 5 still works with OS X [10.4.7]? >> >> I have a very limited needed and my copy doesn?t want >> to open. > > Mine also has ceased to function properly. It seems the use-by date > has > passed for IE5.2 for Mac. I have IE 5.2.3 and it works fine (as well as it ever did) under OS X 10.4.7 for me SR From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 8 23:07:02 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Sep 8 23:07:10 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <957A1622-293A-4A07-93C7-3CCA7820BEDE@macosxhints.com> Message-ID: <20060909060702.16019.qmail@web81410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ROB Thanks for the find - I'm downloading it right now! You wouldn't know wher I could get a copy of a font called "Sand" without mess with OS 9 would you? Hopeful Rich ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Rob Griffiths wrote: > On Sep 8, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > > > I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone > out > > there who might be willing to download me a copy? > > This download URL still seems to work: > > http://www.download.com/Internet-Explorer/3000-2143_4-10209078.html > > -rob._______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 9 01:37:26 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Sat Sep 9 01:37:34 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] =?iso-8859-1?q?I_could_really_use_a_copy_of_a_font_c?= =?iso-8859-1?q?alled_=D2sand=D3?= Message-ID: <20060909083726.41520.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I could really use a copy of a font called ?sand? Hopefully someone has it and will offer to download a working copy or maybe direct me to where I might find a working copy... hopeful Rich From robg at macosxhints.com Sat Sep 9 06:50:35 2006 From: robg at macosxhints.com (Rob Griffiths) Date: Sat Sep 9 06:51:23 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909060702.16019.qmail@web81410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060909060702.16019.qmail@web81410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sep 8, 2006, at 11:07 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > You wouldn't know wher I could get a copy of a font > called "Sand" without mess with OS 9 would you? I don't think so, at least not legally. According to this... http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/apple/sand/ ...it's an Apple-provided font, so anyone offering it for download would be doing so illegally, I think. You should be able to find it on the OS 9 installer CD, though -- not sure how things are compressed on that, but just copy the files over, expand them, and root out the font. -rob. From robertmacleay at mac.com Sat Sep 9 08:44:50 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Sat Sep 9 08:45:02 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I could really use a copy of a font called =?ISO-8859-1?B?0nNhbmTT?= In-Reply-To: <20060909083726.41520.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: How to extract Sand from a MacOS 9 install CD: 1. You will need an install CD and the freeware application TomeViewer, which works only under MacOS 9 or Classic. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/4561 2. Sand is inside "Mac OS 9.1:Software Installers:System Software: Mac OS 9.1:Installation Tome" 3. Once TomeViewer is installed, double click Installation Tome and TomeViewer should launch; a window will open showing all of Installation Tome's contents. 4. Select Sand and choose Archive:Expand... From the menubar. You will be asked where you want to put it. On 9/9/06 2:37 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > I could really use a copy of a font called ?sand? > > Hopefully someone has it and will offer to download a > working copy or maybe direct me to where I might find > a working copy... From jwarms at mac.com Sat Sep 9 09:07:19 2006 From: jwarms at mac.com (Jon Warms) Date: Sat Sep 9 09:07:30 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909154506.0C6D3207004@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20060909154506.0C6D3207004@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <370EDB2C-0B51-4727-BEF2-37E2B687D8D5@mac.com> IE 5.2.2 works for me. I know, because I had to use it last month on usps.com. The postal service has a cool service called Click N Ship. I used it for about a year to print labels and even pre-pay postage using various Mac browsers. But sometime over the summer, the USPS "improved" the service, so now (at least, in August) Mac users MUST use IE to print the labels and postage. (To the USPS's good, their tech support answered a query with a detailed, semi-helpful response, but I still had to use IE.) Jon On Sep 9, 2006, Steven Rogers wrote: > On Sep 9, 2006, at 12:18 AM, Tony Johansen wrote: > >> On 9/9/2006 11:54 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" >> wrote: >>> I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone out >>> there who might be willing to download me a copy? >>> >>> I guess IE 5 still works with OS X [10.4.7]? >>> >>> I have a very limited needed and my copy doesn?t want >>> to open. >> >> Mine also has ceased to function properly. It seems the use-by date >> has >> passed for IE5.2 for Mac. > > I have IE 5.2.3 and it works fine (as well as it ever did) under OS X > 10.4.7 for me > > SR From alpoulin at cox.net Sat Sep 9 12:42:07 2006 From: alpoulin at cox.net (Al Poulin) Date: Sat Sep 9 12:42:16 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909015401.80366.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060909015401.80366.qmail@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8c0931351d6cf86b97de3534601bad9c@cox.net> On Sep 8, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Evening All > > I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone out > there who might be willing to download me a copy? > > I guess IE 5 still works with OS X [10.4.7]? I know other folks have given you leads for a download. But why not just get Firefox? It is free and being kept up to date. IE 5 is increasingly becoming out of date as web site building technology changes. (Note I did not say "advances." If Safari does not work for me on some web site, I just go to Firefox, which always works. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 9 14:06:51 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Sat Sep 9 14:06:58 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <8c0931351d6cf86b97de3534601bad9c@cox.net> Message-ID: <20060909210651.71106.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Al We?ve got to stop meeting like this - folks are going to start to talk But it?s a good question... and it brings up a question or two that I have - so maybe you can solve it for me. As you may or may not know I have this manufacturer?s representative agency (small but growing) and I recently pick up a new client who?s web-site is not Safari friendly. Nor is it Camino friendly. It does however open on my dad?s PS using you got it IE. So in my primitive mind set I figured I needed to get a copy of IE so I could deal with my client. By the way this client deals in browser software - go figure Anyway after all my trouble IE still doesn?t open the client?s site - just endless white space. So maybe I should pick up a copy of Firefox and see what happens I used it before and it worked well but somehow I appreciate a browsers what was developed for the MAC - call me old fashioned! Is there something I need to tell the client they need to add to make their site more accessible us MAC folks - after all we are a growing breed these days If you got a moment google www.rtmsoft.com and let me know if Firefox does the job. By the way I generally have ?Block Pop-up turn on would that make a different? And have you checked out the latest version of NeoOffice - it?s for real! Have a great weekend and a doable week... Rich PS - Have you see or hear from Bruce Johnson from our days on the G3 list of late - was wonder if he?s still holding court over there or has he finally moved on and up to G4?s? =========================================== --- Al Poulin wrote: > On Sep 8, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > > > Evening All > > > > I?m looking for a copy of IE 5 - is there anyone > out > > there who might be willing to download me a copy? > > > > I guess IE 5 still works with OS X [10.4.7]? > > I know other folks have given you leads for a > download. But why not > just get Firefox? It is free and being kept up to > date. IE 5 is > increasingly becoming out of date as web site > building technology > changes. (Note I did not say "advances." If Safari > does not work for > me on some web site, I just go to Firefox, which > always works. > > Al Poulin > Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, > forgiveness is for God, > proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From beamis at drizzle.com Sat Sep 9 14:51:09 2006 From: beamis at drizzle.com (Chris Beamis) Date: Sat Sep 9 14:51:17 2006 Subject: Fwd: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive References: <0D0BBE99-78AB-444D-8160-E46CCE0932C4@drizzle.com> Message-ID: Oops, I just figured out there's more to the story. Before any replies please wait for the next post, which will be the first plus more. Begin forwarded message: > From: Chris Beamis > Date: September 9, 2006 2:44:53 PM PDT > To: "A place to novice users Mac OS X." newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> > Subject: Re: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive > > > When I first tried SuperDuper it didn't see the new drive so I got > back into Disk Utility and did a partition on the new drive and set -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20060909/8f1159de/attachment.html From robertmacleay at mac.com Sat Sep 9 15:24:34 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Sat Sep 9 15:24:44 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909210651.71106.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For perspective, I suggest you read this Macintouch thread on marginalization: http://tinyurl.com/pdgqb To boil it down: Too many websites are built by idiots who are either too lazy or too stupid to realize that using Microsoft's web tools to build web sites means that those web sites will run with only ONE browser -- MISE 6 for Windows. These sites even break with MSIE 7! They get away with this because 80%+ of all users have this browser. At the moment. When I tried Safari 2.0.3 on www.rtmsoft.com I got two error messages: File not found for both site icon and some .swf animation. I notice that the page source code reports its native language is French. I am guessing here: these people grabbed some code off (their foreign supplier's?) website and tried to reuse it would understanding what they are doing. Further proof: examining the source code shows several paragraphs, each repeated four times. Running it through the validator at http://validator.w3.org/ gives this message: "The DOCTYPE Declaration was not recognized or is missing. This probably means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a spelling error, or that the Declaration is not using correct syntax. Validation has been performed using a default "fallback" Document Type Definition that closely resembles "HTML 4.01 Transitional", but the document will not be Valid until you have corrected this problem with the DOCTYPE Declaration." My conclusion is that your clients are hopeless idiots; this is not (today) a Mac/PeeCee issue. I suggest you forward this URL to them and have them check out how their web site looks like in a variety of browsers: browsershots.org/ (note: this site is VERY busy.) On 9/9/06 3:06 PM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > Is there something I need to tell the client they need > to add to make their site more accessible us MAC folks > - after all we are a growing breed these days From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 9 16:34:05 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Sat Sep 9 16:34:12 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060909233405.29419.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Robert Thanks a lot for the info I going to forward it on to the power to be and yest rtm soft is a french based corporation. fort the looks of things i must have hit upon a sore spot! Rich ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Robert MacLeay wrote: > For perspective, I suggest you read this Macintouch > thread on > marginalization: http://tinyurl.com/pdgqb > > To boil it down: Too many websites are built by > idiots who are either too > lazy or too stupid to realize that using Microsoft's > web tools to build web > sites means that those web sites will run with only > ONE browser -- MISE 6 > for Windows. These sites even break with MSIE 7! > > They get away with this because 80%+ of all users > have this browser. At the > moment. > > When I tried Safari 2.0.3 on www.rtmsoft.com I got > two error messages: File > not found for both site icon and some .swf > animation. I notice that the > page source code reports its native language is > French. I am guessing here: > these people grabbed some code off (their foreign > supplier's?) website and > tried to reuse it would understanding what they are > doing. Further proof: > examining the source code shows several paragraphs, > each repeated four > times. > > Running it through the validator at > http://validator.w3.org/ gives this > message: > "The DOCTYPE Declaration was not recognized or is > missing. This probably > means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a > spelling error, or that > the Declaration is not using correct syntax. > Validation has been performed > using a default "fallback" Document Type Definition > that closely resembles > "HTML 4.01 Transitional", but the document will not > be Valid until you have > corrected this problem with the DOCTYPE > Declaration." > > My conclusion is that your clients are hopeless > idiots; this is not (today) > a Mac/PeeCee issue. > > I suggest you forward this URL to them and have them > check out how their web > site looks like in a variety of browsers: > browsershots.org/ (note: this > site is VERY busy.) > > > On 9/9/06 3:06 PM, "Richard Ramsowr" > wrote: > > > Is there something I need to tell the client they > need > > to add to make their site more accessible us MAC > folks > > - after all we are a growing breed these days > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From alpoulin at cox.net Sat Sep 9 16:52:11 2006 From: alpoulin at cox.net (Al Poulin) Date: Sat Sep 9 16:52:15 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909210651.71106.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060909210651.71106.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rich: On Sep 9, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > If you got a moment google www.rtmsoft.com and let me > know if Firefox does the job. By the way I generally > have ?Block Pop-up turn on would that make a > different? Using IE 5.2.3, Firefox 1.5.0.4, and Safari 1.3.2 with Panther 10.3.9 gets the blank page under the home page title at the top. That is my first Firefox failure. There must be something terribly non-standard about this web site. You could try changing the Pop-up, but I doubt that would make it better. > PS - Have you see or hear from Bruce Johnson from our > days on the G3 list of late - was wonder if he?s still > holding court over there or has he finally moved on > and up to G4?s? Bruce is very much present on the lowendmac g3-5 list group which transitioned to Google Groups last March. You can re-join at: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/index.shtml It is still listed as the G-List there. Bruce is also in the g-books group and was active in the macintel group as late as Aug 5. Good luck in your dilemma. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. From beamis at drizzle.com Sat Sep 9 22:41:39 2006 From: beamis at drizzle.com (Chris Beamis) Date: Sat Sep 9 22:41:54 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> Message-ID: Okay, I now have near success. Got SuperDuper, copied the boot drive over to the new big drive and made it the boot drive, and now in the Finder window it says 319GB free whereas before it said 3.1GB free. So I'm using the new drive. The only problem I'm having is that I can't seem to move the new drive to the end of the data cable. When i put it there the machine won't boot, but if I leave it in the slave connector (position #2) it will boot with or without the other drive connected. Problem is I want to put it on the end and put the old smaller one in the middle for temporary so I can clean it off for sale. Does anyone know how to do that? The jumper switches for both of them remain in the Cable Select position. Thanks, Chris On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Vincent Cayenne wrote: > At 3:53 PM -0700 9/8/06, Chris Beamis wrote: >> I have the original 57.3GB hard drive with only about 1.5GB free >> right this minute, and I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as >> the slave. > > Download SuperDuper (search at MacUpdate.com), use it to clone the > current master over to the big slave. Set the slave to be the > startup drive. Shut down. Make the big disk the master and remove > the original. Start up. Be happy. > > At your convenience, get a good, inexpensive external drive > enclosure and put the original into it. Use it as emergency backup > or whatever. Even before that, get another big disk and either put > it into an external enclosure to use for backup or put it in as > slave and use as a less safe backup... > -- > 'tis as said. [Reality is defined by being described] > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Sat Sep 9 22:59:21 2006 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (Tony Johansen) Date: Sat Sep 9 22:59:38 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] I'm looking for a copy of IE 5... In-Reply-To: <20060909210651.71106.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 10/9/2006 7:06 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: It does > however open on my dad?s PS using you got it IE. So in > my primitive mind set I figured I needed to get a copy > of IE so I could deal with my client. By the way this > client deals in browser software - go figure There is a vast difference between IE for Windows and IE for Mac. As it is a few years since the Mac version was updated it just cant deal with certain modern javascripts and flash files amongst other things. I deal with it these days by keeping a cheap old Windows PC beside me for the IE stuff. In the last 12 months IE for Mac has really become fairly useless in many situations. I use it for web design / testing so expose problems regularly. I know there are many people out there with less rigorous usage of browsers who don't experience problems yet. They will eventually, and it will become more apparent as time goes by. > Anyway after all my trouble IE still doesn?t open the > client?s site - just endless white space. > > So maybe I should pick up a copy of Firefox and see > what happens I used it before and it worked well but > somehow I appreciate a browsers what was developed for > the MAC - call me old fashioned! Apple itself is serving us poorly at the moment. Of the commonly used browsers, Safari, Opera, and IE:Mac seem to be the most troublesome at the moment. As a long time Safari user I migrated all my bookmarks to Netscape and made it my default recently. I hated doing it as I like Safari, but there are just too many sites that Safari can't handle. Firefox, and Netscape are the least troublesome options. Firefox is all the rage currently, but I choose Netscape because of the built in WYSIWYG editor (Composer). Poor old Netscape could compete as the ugliest browser ever made, but it works well, but gets forgotten. > > Is there something I need to tell the client they need > to add to make their site more accessible us MAC folks > - after all we are a growing breed these days Same old rule as always: test on a variety of browsers and platforms. When something doesn't work on a commonly used browser, then fix the site. Although it holds the web back if we design totally for obsolete browsers. (IE:Mac is rapidly entering that category) there has to be a balance here that errs on the side of not excluding large groups of people. In the end when sites don't work on any of the major modern browsers whichever platform then that comes down to only 3 things that reflect on the designer: arrogance, thoughtlessness, and laziness. Put diplomatically: it is the job of the designer to test to make certain they do not exclude anybody. Put selfishly: Mac owners tend to spend more (they prove it by spending more on their computer) even if a small portion of the market, can their dollars really be ignored? Another group that gets forgotten is the visually impaired. Alt tags on images both help your search engine performance as well as helping those with Braille browsing to understand what the pictures are depicting. All the best Tony http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art From robertmacleay at mac.com Sun Sep 10 00:01:16 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Sun Sep 10 00:02:06 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not all G4 Macs support cable select; I do not know the cutoff model. A further complication is that not all _cables_ support cable select, even when the drives and host adapters do support it. Most that do are 80-conductor, and will have pin 28 on only one of the connectors actually attached to the cable. While the current standards say end connector should be the master, not all early cables followed them. When the instructions don't work, ignore them; you could try setting the jumpers on the two drives to master and slave. On 9/9/06 11:41 PM, "Chris Beamis" wrote: > Okay, I now have near success. Got SuperDuper, copied the boot drive > over to the new big drive and made it the boot drive, and now in the > Finder window it says 319GB free whereas before it said 3.1GB free. > So I'm using the new drive. The only problem I'm having is that I > can't seem to move the new drive to the end of the data cable. When > i put it there the machine won't boot, but if I leave it in the slave > connector (position #2) it will boot with or without the other drive > connected. Problem is I want to put it on the end and put the old > smaller one in the middle for temporary so I can clean it off for > sale. Does anyone know how to do that? The jumper switches for both > of them remain in the Cable Select position. From chowse at charter.net Sun Sep 10 05:48:30 2006 From: chowse at charter.net (Charles Howse) Date: Sun Sep 10 05:48:50 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: <20060909013002.GB4433@core-age.local> References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> <83BCA3E8-339F-4F95-B6E3-F3752F39BEDD@charter.net> <20060909013002.GB4433@core-age.local> Message-ID: On Sep 8, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Eugene wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:56:31PM CDT, Charles Howse > wrote: > : > : On Sep 8, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Chris Beamis wrote: > : > : >I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as the slave. > : > : Can someone confirm that I can take an IDE drive from a PC and > : install it in my PowerMac G5 (early 2005) running 10.4.7? > : > : I searched around on Apple.com and Googled, but didn't find anything > : definitive. > > Even though the last PowerMac G5 models went with Serial ATA > for the hard drives, you can still connect an IDE hard drive > to the internal Ultra ATA/100 bus that is connected to the > CD/DVD drive. > > > -- > Eugene > http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ Problem... I looked inside my PowerMac, and the data cable for the DVD drive doesn't have another connector on it, nor is there a spare power connector like in PC power supplies, nor is there another connector on the MB for a second optical drive. Am I SOL? -- Thanks, Charles http://bubbabbq.homeunix.net From philip.robar at gmail.com Sun Sep 10 13:17:54 2006 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Sun Sep 10 13:18:10 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C1E17A2-3B0D-46BD-8D30-84CA83FCE54F@gmail.com> On Sep 10, 2006, at 12:01 AM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > Not all G4 Macs support cable select; I do not know the cutoff model. Even though Apple only documents using jumpers, my AGP G4 (Sawtooth) works fine with cable select. I think my B&W G3 (Yosemite) also does, but I haven't played with it in a while. > A further complication is that not all _cables_ support cable > select, even > when the drives and host adapters do support it. Most that do are > 80-conductor, While I don't have access to the official ANSI standards, based on what I've read elsewhere I'm pretty sure that the standard says that all ATA 80 wire cables must implement cable select. All Macs from the Yosemite on have shipped with 80 wire cables > and will have pin 28 on only one of the connectors actually attached > to the cable. While the current standards say end connector should > be the master, not all early cables followed them. If the cable is an 80 wire ATA cable it must be the end connector. > When the instructions don't work, ignore them; you could try > setting the > jumpers on the two drives to master and slave. Jumpers should always override cable select. > On 9/9/06 11:41 PM, "Chris Beamis" wrote: > >> Okay, I now have near success. Got SuperDuper, copied the boot drive >> over to the new big drive and made it the boot drive, and now in the >> Finder window it says 319GB free whereas before it said 3.1GB free. >> So I'm using the new drive. The only problem I'm having is that I >> can't seem to move the new drive to the end of the data cable. When >> I put it there the machine won't boot, but if I leave it in the slave >> connector (position #2) it will boot with or without the other drive >> connected. Problem is I want to put it on the end and put the old >> smaller one in the middle for temporary so I can clean it off for >> sale. Does anyone know how to do that? The jumper switches for both >> of them remain in the Cable Select position. Hmm, putting a single drive on the middle of an 80 wire cable is an invalid configuration. It may work, but you're asking for trouble given the speeds and signaling characteristics of modern drives. Some thoughts: Is your drive a Western Digital by any chance? Some WD drives insist on being jumpered as a single drive when they are used alone. This single setting is unique to WD's drives. Try another cable. You should be able to get one for a few dollars - probably even at Wal-Mart. Have you tried the new drive in the middle and the old drive on the end? This would a way to test the cable. Have you tried hooking both drives up in the configuration you want? Try resetting the startup drive in the configuration that works and then trying the configuration you want. Phil From philip.robar at gmail.com Sun Sep 10 13:24:47 2006 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Sun Sep 10 13:25:00 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <20060905043555.64736.qmail@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B2193E7-876F-4A23-88F3-5E9184E8AA90@drizzle.com> <83BCA3E8-339F-4F95-B6E3-F3752F39BEDD@charter.net> <20060909013002.GB4433@core-age.local> Message-ID: <9A2B749E-1FC3-48F4-B727-F93BBA90D9DB@gmail.com> On Sep 10, 2006, at 5:48 AM, Charles Howse wrote: > On Sep 8, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Eugene wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:56:31PM CDT, Charles Howse >> wrote: >> : >> : On Sep 8, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Chris Beamis wrote: >> : >> : >I just installed a new 370GB IDE drive as the slave. >> : >> : Can someone confirm that I can take an IDE drive from a PC and >> : install it in my PowerMac G5 (early 2005) running 10.4.7? >> : >> : I searched around on Apple.com and Googled, but didn't find >> anything >> : definitive. >> >> Even though the last PowerMac G5 models went with Serial ATA >> for the hard drives, you can still connect an IDE hard drive >> to the internal Ultra ATA/100 bus that is connected to the >> CD/DVD drive. > > Problem... > I looked inside my PowerMac, and the data cable for the DVD drive > doesn't have another connector on it, nor is there a spare power > connector like in PC power supplies, nor is there another connector > on the MB for a second optical drive. > Am I SOL? No, the data cable can be replaced (though it may be more trouble than it's worth depending on how it's routed) and you can get a Y power cable that attaches to the end of the existing cable. Don't pay pay more than a few dollars for either. Phil From beamis at drizzle.com Sun Sep 10 15:24:15 2006 From: beamis at drizzle.com (Chris Beamis) Date: Sun Sep 10 15:24:29 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] how to seamlessly use added hard drive In-Reply-To: <9C1E17A2-3B0D-46BD-8D30-84CA83FCE54F@gmail.com> References: <9C1E17A2-3B0D-46BD-8D30-84CA83FCE54F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8B180739-2364-4ECC-BCA4-6240FD2BFB71@drizzle.com> It's a Seagate, and I tried putting it on the end of the line with jumpers at Master, but no joy, so I set it back to Cable Select. What finally worked was to boot off the new big drive with it in the middle position and the other drive not installed, set boot drive to CD, open CD drive and insert install CD, boot off the CD and set boot drive to the big drive, reboot. First tried running with only the new big drive on the end of the line, and now I'm running off the new big one at the end of the line and the old small soon to be wiped one in the middle position. Thanks for all the help to everyone. I'm going to look it up but just in case anyone would like to contribute any free advice :), any recommendations for securely wiping the old disk, with ones, zeros, randoms, repeatedly? Thanks again, Chris On Sep 10, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Philip J Robar wrote: > > On Sep 10, 2006, at 12:01 AM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > >> Not all G4 Macs support cable select; I do not know the cutoff model. > > Even though Apple only documents using jumpers, my AGP G4 > (Sawtooth) works fine with cable select. I think my B&W G3 > (Yosemite) also does, but I haven't played with it in a while. > >> A further complication is that not all _cables_ support cable >> select, even >> when the drives and host adapters do support it. Most that do are >> 80-conductor, > > While I don't have access to the official ANSI standards, based on > what I've read elsewhere I'm pretty sure that the standard says > that all ATA 80 wire cables must implement cable select. All Macs > from the Yosemite on have shipped with 80 wire cables > >> and will have pin 28 on only one of the connectors actually attached >> to the cable. While the current standards say end connector should >> be the master, not all early cables followed them. > > If the cable is an 80 wire ATA cable it must be the end connector. > >> When the instructions don't work, ignore them; you could try >> setting the >> jumpers on the two drives to master and slave. > > Jumpers should always override cable select. > >> On 9/9/06 11:41 PM, "Chris Beamis" wrote: >> >>> Okay, I now have near success. Got SuperDuper, copied the boot drive >>> over to the new big drive and made it the boot drive, and now in the >>> Finder window it says 319GB free whereas before it said 3.1GB free. >>> So I'm using the new drive. The only problem I'm having is that I >>> can't seem to move the new drive to the end of the data cable. When >>> I put it there the machine won't boot, but if I leave it in the >>> slave >>> connector (position #2) it will boot with or without the other drive >>> connected. Problem is I want to put it on the end and put the old >>> smaller one in the middle for temporary so I can clean it off for >>> sale. Does anyone know how to do that? The jumper switches for both >>> of them remain in the Cable Select position. > > Hmm, putting a single drive on the middle of an 80 wire cable is an > invalid configuration. It may work, but you're asking for trouble > given the speeds and signaling characteristics of modern drives. > > Some thoughts: > > Is your drive a Western Digital by any chance? Some WD drives > insist on being jumpered as a single drive when they are used > alone. This single setting is unique to WD's drives. > > Try another cable. You should be able to get one for a few dollars > - probably even at Wal-Mart. > > Have you tried the new drive in the middle and the old drive on the > end? This would a way to test the cable. > > Have you tried hooking both drives up in the configuration you want? > > Try resetting the startup drive in the configuration that works and > then trying the configuration you want. > > Phil > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From bob at andrisfamily.net Sun Sep 10 15:34:16 2006 From: bob at andrisfamily.net (Robert (Bob) P. Andris) Date: Sun Sep 10 15:34:26 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Boot Camp Backup? In-Reply-To: <20060908235440.7A8F7203649@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20060908235440.7A8F7203649@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <92CB5077-C379-4EDC-8AF9-BEE7DDA052B8@andrisfamily.net> In line with the current discussion of CCC and other backup/clone software; has anyone found a way to get a bootable backup of the "Boot Camp" partition? I'm currently using an "intel inside" iMac using Sys 10.4.7, and have it partitioned into two halves, one for OS 10 and one for Win XP. My backup is an identical sized LaCie, external FireWire drive. The closest I've come to success is to use CopyCat X 3.5. I does a sector copy of the entire drive - not just a partition. When you reboot, while holding the "option" key down, all four volumes show up as "bootable"; the internal "Macintosh HD", the internal "Windows HD, the external "Macintosh HD", and the external "Windows HD. However, if you select either of the two external volumes to boot, the "boot" process takes a little longer than normal and then it selects the INTERNAL volume, after all. Anyone had real success? Bob From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 13 01:16:22 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Wed Sep 13 01:16:31 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] What should I be looking for in a dvd disk? [Pioneer DVR-111D] Message-ID: <20060913081622.24865.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Morning all I just installed a new SuperDrive [Pioneer DVR-111D] into my QS and when I went to buy a few blank dvd disk?s for it - I was a bit overwhelmed. So now I?m looking for advise on the type and make of dvd disk?s I should be buying for it? For that matter what kind of cd will I need? Any proven/experienced advise is welcome. From robertmacleay at mac.com Wed Sep 13 07:41:51 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Wed Sep 13 07:42:05 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] What should I be looking for in a dvd disk? [Pioneer DVR-111D] In-Reply-To: <20060913081622.24865.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The DVR-111D is new enough to work with almost anything. Media which is rated faster (16X will burn in half the time that 8X will require) is more desirable, and usually more expensive, especially if the rating is cutting edge. CDs and DVDs vary widely in quality. There is tremendous price pressure on manufacturers to reduce retail price, and this results in a great deal of junk on the market whose sole virtue is price. For a discussion of this and recommendations on brands, check out the www.cdr-zone.com page on recordable media at http://tinyurl.com/bdvpd On 9/13/06 2:16 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > Morning all > > I just installed a new SuperDrive [Pioneer DVR-111D] > into my QS and when I went to buy a few blank dvd > disk?s for it - I was a bit overwhelmed. > > So now I'm looking for advise on the type and make of > dvd disk's I should be buying for it? > > For that matter what kind of cd will I need? > > Any proven/experienced advise is welcome. From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 13 09:25:47 2006 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Wed Sep 13 09:25:56 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] What should I be looking for in a dvd disk? [Pioneer DVR-111D] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060913162547.82217.qmail@web81414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Robert Thanks for the great information - it's most helpful... Have a good one... Rich --- Robert MacLeay wrote: > The DVR-111D is new enough to work with almost > anything. Media which is > rated faster (16X will burn in half the time that 8X > will require) is more > desirable, and usually more expensive, especially if > the rating is cutting > edge. > > CDs and DVDs vary widely in quality. There is > tremendous price pressure on > manufacturers to reduce retail price, and this > results in a great deal of > junk on the market whose sole virtue is price. > > For a discussion of this and recommendations on > brands, check out the > www.cdr-zone.com page on recordable media at > http://tinyurl.com/bdvpd > > On 9/13/06 2:16 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" > wrote: > > > Morning all > > > > I just installed a new SuperDrive [Pioneer > DVR-111D] > > into my QS and when I went to buy a few blank dvd > > disk?s for it - I was a bit overwhelmed. > > > > So now I'm looking for advise on the type and make > of > > dvd disk's I should be buying for it? > > > > For that matter what kind of cd will I need? > > > > Any proven/experienced advise is welcome. > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From cornett at gol.com Wed Sep 13 20:05:05 2006 From: cornett at gol.com (B.Cornett) Date: Wed Sep 13 20:06:38 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Mail acct. setup query Message-ID: G'day to All Am hoping for a bit of your X-Guru input on a problem I've got in Mail v1.3.11 running on OSX.3.9. A few List servers of late have been having a problem with my single name addy when posting to list thru the server, and I've had to add my first initial into my Mail preferences to get the Post's thru. Only now a few other List servers are not accepting my posts because of the added initial, and so, I've tried to setup another account without the initial (all other parameters are the same) but Mail won't allow me to save that configuration (as the server settings are the same) to be able to use it. ie for: (1) cornett@xxx.xxx (2) b. cornett@xxx.xxx (*oNly used in Description, Email Address outside the "< >" brackets, and Full Name fill in areas of the 1st. section). I truly do hope the above is understandable. What am I doing wrong?, and/or How in the world can I trick Mail to accept the settings?, and no, I don't wish to have to use Fast User switching or go into Mail preferences to change each time I wish to send a post, nor re-sub with the initial'd settings either. All advice/help will be appreciated and very welcomed. TIA Respectful of GURUs Bill Cornett cornettATgolDOTcom / From scott-xlists at scotist.com Wed Sep 13 21:49:48 2006 From: scott-xlists at scotist.com (Scott) Date: Wed Sep 13 21:49:59 2006 Subject: [X-Newbies] Mail acct. setup query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26466ECC-FE9F-4125-97A5-9C6CD7E93F47@scotist.com> On Sep 13, 2006, at 8:05 PM, B.Cornett wrote: > ie for: (1) cornett@xxx.xxx > (2) b. cornett@xxx.xxx > (*oNly used in Description, Email Address outside the > "< >" brackets, and Full Name fill in areas of the > 1st. section). > I truly do hope the above is understandable. It is not. I'm assuming you are trying to obfuscate the actual addresses to avoid spam? Not sure why, since your email address is in the headers of the message, which any spam-harvester subscribed to the list will see anyway, and you've already edited the domain name out. If you still feel the need, try rewriting your message but type the addresses exactly as they're meant to be read. Send plain-text, not html, and don't worry about it if it gets turned into a link in your email client. We'll be able to see it on this end. -- Scott