For perspective, I suggest you read this Macintouch thread on marginalization: http://tinyurl.com/pdgqb To boil it down: Too many websites are built by idiots who are either too lazy or too stupid to realize that using Microsoft's web tools to build web sites means that those web sites will run with only ONE browser -- MISE 6 for Windows. These sites even break with MSIE 7! They get away with this because 80%+ of all users have this browser. At the moment. When I tried Safari 2.0.3 on www.rtmsoft.com I got two error messages: File not found for both site icon and some .swf animation. I notice that the page source code reports its native language is French. I am guessing here: these people grabbed some code off (their foreign supplier's?) website and tried to reuse it would understanding what they are doing. Further proof: examining the source code shows several paragraphs, each repeated four times. Running it through the validator at http://validator.w3.org/ gives this message: "The DOCTYPE Declaration was not recognized or is missing. This probably means that the Formal Public Identifier contains a spelling error, or that the Declaration is not using correct syntax. Validation has been performed using a default "fallback" Document Type Definition that closely resembles "HTML 4.01 Transitional", but the document will not be Valid until you have corrected this problem with the DOCTYPE Declaration." My conclusion is that your clients are hopeless idiots; this is not (today) a Mac/PeeCee issue. I suggest you forward this URL to them and have them check out how their web site looks like in a variety of browsers: browsershots.org/ (note: this site is VERY busy.) On 9/9/06 3:06 PM, "Richard Ramsowr" <r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Is there something I need to tell the client they need > to add to make their site more accessible us MAC folks > - after all we are a growing breed these days