From kc9aae at bresnan.net Tue May 8 23:06:08 2007 From: kc9aae at bresnan.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Tue May 8 23:06:15 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] test Message-ID: I haven't seen any mail from this list since 04/18/07. Anybody? Dana - KC9AAE From bill at wscd.biz Wed May 9 02:47:05 2007 From: bill at wscd.biz (William Scammell) Date: Wed May 9 02:47:17 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52DA49E6-8BE5-4FA6-9E4A-BC6EC656C8AD@wscd.biz> ping.... On May 9, 2007, at 2:06 AM, Dana J. Laude wrote: > I haven't seen any mail from this list since 04/18/07. Anybody? > > Dana - KC9AAE > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 William Scammell bill @ wscd.biz vox: 781-956-3548 fax: 978-594-5290 From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Wed May 9 06:49:20 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Wed May 9 06:49:29 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <803411.31593.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dana Your the first in awhile I was just starting to wonder myself... Rich the repguy Houston --- "Dana J. Laude" wrote: > I haven't seen any mail from this list since > 04/18/07. Anybody? > > Dana - KC9AAE > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Wed May 9 07:41:06 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Wed May 9 07:41:16 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] test In-Reply-To: <803411.31593.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <803411.31593.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <557A9954-13B2-45A1-A712-32E92BD91192@earthlink.net> I'm here...I think I asked a question but it went unanswered. On May 9, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Dana > > Your the first in awhile I was just starting to wonder > myself... > > Rich the repguy > Houston > --- "Dana J. Laude" wrote: > >> I haven't seen any mail from this list since >> 04/18/07. Anybody? >> >> Dana - KC9AAE >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X-Newbies mailing list >> X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage >> Mac and random stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From blanc.cyril at wanadoo.fr Wed May 9 20:50:13 2007 From: blanc.cyril at wanadoo.fr (cyril blanc) Date: Wed May 9 20:50:45 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? Message-ID: Hello Is it possible to install Tiger on a Mac 8100 AV Best Cyril ----------------------------------------------------------- My Mail is filtered by Wanadoo and Personal Antispam. Join the Independent Quantum Leap Symphony orchestra (Q.L.S.O.) and Symphonic Choir Forum for Mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso A6 Andromeda forum : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A6_andromeda From robertmacleay at mac.com Wed May 9 21:11:26 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Wed May 9 21:11:35 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/9/07 9:50 PM, "cyril blanc" wrote: > Is it possible to install Tiger on a Mac 8100 AV In a word, no. Your Mac has a 601 processor. No one has ever succeeded in getting a 601 PPC to boot any version of OS X. Even if you upgraded it with an accelerator and newer processor, I doubt you would find it possible. In a world of $50 Blue & White G3 Macs, there is not much point, either. The maximum official System for the 8100 is MacOS 9.1. For information on running OS X on Macs that are too old to run it, go to http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto From philip.robar at gmail.com Wed May 9 21:49:52 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Wed May 9 21:50:02 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 9, 2007, at 9:11 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: Robert's answer is right, but his answer doesn't include the real reason why. While Tiger does indeed require at least a G3, the main reason that OS X won't work, even with XPostFacto and a CPU upgrade, is that the 8100 is a Nubus based machine. > In a world of $50 Blue & White G3 Macs, there is not much point, > either. Agreed, although I'd recommend a G4 AGP Sawtooth as the minimal starting point. Phil From blanc.cyril at wanadoo.fr Thu May 10 00:30:47 2007 From: blanc.cyril at wanadoo.fr (cyril blanc) Date: Thu May 10 00:31:44 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6CDEF3B9-ED51-4B0C-BCB7-89BC9183105C@wanadoo.fr> Hi Robert, What a pity. Many thanks for your answer On May 10, 2007, at 6:11 AM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > On 5/9/07 9:50 PM, "cyril blanc" wrote: > >> Is it possible to install Tiger on a Mac 8100 AV > > In a word, no. > > Your Mac has a 601 processor. No one has ever succeeded in getting > a 601 PPC > to boot any version of OS X. > > Even if you upgraded it with an accelerator and newer processor, I > doubt you > would find it possible. In a world of $50 Blue & White G3 Macs, > there is > not much point, either. > > The maximum official System for the 8100 is MacOS 9.1. > > For information on running OS X on Macs that are too old to run it, > go to > http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto Best Cyril ----------------------------------------------------------- My Mail is filtered by Wanadoo and Personal Antispam. Join the Independent Quantum Leap Symphony orchestra (Q.L.S.O.) and Symphonic Choir Forum for Mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso A6 Andromeda forum : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A6_andromeda From mk3ds2 at cox.net Thu May 10 07:16:54 2007 From: mk3ds2 at cox.net (Tom Garrou) Date: Thu May 10 07:26:57 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] $70 Laser Printer! In-Reply-To: <20070510035044.C8E0BCF3565@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070510035044.C8E0BCF3565@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <2DC42D01-DB0B-4826-B454-C92DBC5ADC6B@cox.net> On May 9, 2007, at 11:50 PM, x-newbies- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > From: "Randy B. Singer" > > How would you like a brand-new, genuine laser printer for only $70? > > Here ya go!: > > Samsung ML-2510 Laser Printer > $70 after $60 rebate Randy, Just checked this at the Staples site. According to the rebate coupon the printer has to be purchased between 4/15/07 and 4/21/07. Tom Garrou -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070510/9b90b211/attachment.html From chasm at mac.com Thu May 10 08:59:44 2007 From: chasm at mac.com (Charles Martin) Date: Thu May 10 08:59:55 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Sudo wont accept my Admin password? In-Reply-To: <20070510035045.3C1A5CF3568@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070510035045.3C1A5CF3568@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <033B3958-0112-1000-E8C8-0232F7601FF9-Webmail-10019@mac.com> >From: Aldo Johnson > >Weird, since I can use my Admin pasword to log on to my Admin >account. (Just the normal Admin account, not a super user account.) > >Yet when I try to use sudo, or othe apps that depend on its PW, like >ShowVolumeFragmentation.app, it always rejects my password. Why? > >Can anyone help? Please? I'm guessing here, but it sounds like a classic case of "I changed my user shortname." For the benefit of others, even if this is NOT the culprit, I'll explain. In your user folder is a Home folder with your name on it. This name would be whatever you or the person who set up your machine named it. Usually it's just your first name. YOU MUST ***NEVER*** CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS FOLDER!!!! There is a complicated UNIX-y procedure to change the name of this folder that you REALLY don't want to learn, and even the much-simpler Applescript someone came up with relies heavily on you being comfortable issuing potentially disasterous commands in the Terminal. Get a professional to change the short username if you really, REALLY must do so at all. I'm told the next version of OS X (Leopard) will address this glaring problem, but as a Mac tech I can tell you it's a NIGHTMARE to recover from this sort of boneheaded move because the user doesn't immediately notice a problem until later when the two sets of permissions start to collide. And no, you can't just "change the name back" and everything will be fine. In fact, that makes things worse. To call it a "permissions nightmare" is just the start. Aldo, I sincerely hope that I'm wrong and that that is NOT what you (or someone who has access to your machine) did. But it sure sounds familiar. Cheers Chas From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Thu May 10 09:55:57 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Thu May 10 09:56:01 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... Message-ID: <940555.17055.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Morning all I've got a question on about composing an eMail... I currently using AT&T /Yahoo Mail alone with AT&T as my DSL provider... I"m trying to embed (thank that's the correct term) a doc image into the body of the eMail i.e when a person open the email they should see a view of my letterhead with text, a photo and/or other images that I might embed in the body of the eMail. How do I go about do this? While I'm at it does anyone know how I can turn off yahoo's mail service in favor of Apple's Mail? Rich From robertmacleay at mac.com Thu May 10 10:24:10 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Thu May 10 10:24:17 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <940555.17055.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 5/10/07 10:55 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > I"m trying to embed (thank that's the correct term) a > doc image into the body of the eMail i.e when a > person open the email they should see a view of my > letterhead with text, a photo and/or other images that > I might embed in the body of the eMail. Hi, Rich! There is unfortunately, no universal solution to your problem. There are too many different email programs out there, all of which implement integrated page elements differently, for there to be one sure way of adding graphical formatting to an email. This is why the first line of many commercial emails is "If you can't see this email, click here." Even the guys who make big bucks writing this stuff professionally can't make sure everyone can read it. I can guarantee you that the fancier you make your mail, the fewer people will be able to see it as you intended. THAT SAID... What I do when I wish to send a formatted email is to create a web page in a WSYWIG html editor and then paste the raw html code into Thunderbird and send it through that email program. Thunderbird is the only program I am aware of which allows pasting in html code. Even those programs which use html insist on doing it themselves, which severely limits the number of recipients who can read it. I am unsure of what you are asking when you say "turn off Yahoo's mail service." Are you perhaps using webmail and wish to go to a regular mail (Mail!) program? You will have to investigate with Yahoo; there should be a page somewhere on Yahoo that gives you the setup protocol for regular mail. From alpoulin at cox.net Thu May 10 11:54:15 2007 From: alpoulin at cox.net (Al Poulin) Date: Thu May 10 11:54:54 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Lost e-mail in the Inbox Message-ID: I have lost an e-mail in one of my Inboxes after closing it. It does not appear in the list of messages. I have checked all other folders and mail boxes, including Junk and Trash. I then rebuilt all mail boxes. Any other ideas? Thanks, Al Poulin From robertmacleay at mac.com Thu May 10 12:05:31 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Thu May 10 12:05:41 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Lost e-mail in the Inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/10/07 12:54 PM, "Al Poulin" wrote: > I have lost an e-mail in one of my Inboxes after closing it. It does > not appear in the list of messages. I have checked all other folders > and mail boxes, including Junk and Trash. I then rebuilt all mail > boxes. Hi, Al Knowing which email program you are using would help. From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Thu May 10 12:47:14 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Thu May 10 12:47:18 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <181362.33309.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Robert Thanks for the insight... I always thought one could drag an image on to the eMail "open space" i.e the space I writing on as I type this on... In other words, in this application I don't wish to attach the image just mount it... As for the other question, I was was hoping to move over to Apple's Mail - I'v tired of yahoo's solution Rick --- Robert MacLeay wrote: > On 5/10/07 10:55 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" > wrote: > > > I"m trying to embed (thank that's the correct > term) a > > doc image into the body of the eMail i.e when a > > person open the email they should see a view of my > > letterhead with text, a photo and/or other images > that > > I might embed in the body of the eMail. > > Hi, Rich! > > There is unfortunately, no universal solution to > your problem. > > There are too many different email programs out > there, all of which > implement integrated page elements differently, for > there to be one sure way > of adding graphical formatting to an email. > > This is why the first line of many commercial emails > is > "If you can't see this email, click here." > Even the guys who make big bucks writing this stuff > professionally can't > make sure everyone can read it. > > I can guarantee you that the fancier you make your > mail, the fewer people > will be able to see it as you intended. > > THAT SAID... > > What I do when I wish to send a formatted email is > to create a web page in a > WSYWIG html editor and then paste the raw html code > into Thunderbird and > send it through that email program. Thunderbird is > the only program I am > aware of which allows pasting in html code. Even > those programs which use > html insist on doing it themselves, which severely > limits the number of > recipients who can read it. > > I am unsure of what you are asking when you say > "turn off Yahoo's mail > service." Are you perhaps using webmail and wish to > go to a regular mail > (Mail!) program? You will have to investigate with > Yahoo; there should be a > page somewhere on Yahoo that gives you the setup > protocol for regular mail. > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Thu May 10 13:02:35 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Thu May 10 13:02:43 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <181362.33309.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <181362.33309.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <791E1864-DDEF-4C3C-9275-FCD099976607@earthlink.net> Well it boils down to Yahoo is webmail, which is not as WYSIWYG as your Apple Mail which is a client on your drive. Who is your provider? Your ISP should have given you at least one username to set up in your Apple Mail. The rest is child's play. On May 10, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Robert > > Thanks for the insight... > > I always thought one could drag an image on to the > eMail "open space" i.e the space I writing on as I > type this on... > > In other words, in this application I don't wish to > attach the image just mount it... > > As for the other question, I was was hoping to move > over to Apple's Mail - I'v tired of yahoo's solution > > Rick > --- Robert MacLeay wrote: > >> On 5/10/07 10:55 AM, "Richard Ramsowr" >> wrote: >> >>> I"m trying to embed (thank that's the correct >> term) a >>> doc image into the body of the eMail i.e when a >>> person open the email they should see a view of my >>> letterhead with text, a photo and/or other images >> that >>> I might embed in the body of the eMail. >> >> Hi, Rich! >> >> There is unfortunately, no universal solution to >> your problem. >> >> There are too many different email programs out >> there, all of which >> implement integrated page elements differently, for >> there to be one sure way >> of adding graphical formatting to an email. >> >> This is why the first line of many commercial emails >> is >> "If you can't see this email, click here." >> Even the guys who make big bucks writing this stuff >> professionally can't >> make sure everyone can read it. >> >> I can guarantee you that the fancier you make your >> mail, the fewer people >> will be able to see it as you intended. >> >> THAT SAID... >> >> What I do when I wish to send a formatted email is >> to create a web page in a >> WSYWIG html editor and then paste the raw html code >> into Thunderbird and >> send it through that email program. Thunderbird is >> the only program I am >> aware of which allows pasting in html code. Even >> those programs which use >> html insist on doing it themselves, which severely >> limits the number of >> recipients who can read it. >> >> I am unsure of what you are asking when you say >> "turn off Yahoo's mail >> service." Are you perhaps using webmail and wish to >> go to a regular mail >> (Mail!) program? You will have to investigate with >> Yahoo; there should be a >> page somewhere on Yahoo that gives you the setup >> protocol for regular mail. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X-Newbies mailing list >> X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage >> Mac and random stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From alpoulin at cox.net Thu May 10 13:20:50 2007 From: alpoulin at cox.net (Al Poulin) Date: Thu May 10 13:21:29 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Lost e-mail in the Inbox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f196892b848047801f4a6cf4217eb00@cox.net> On May 10, 2007, at 3:05 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > On 5/10/07 12:54 PM, "Al Poulin" wrote: > >> I have lost an e-mail in one of my Inboxes after closing it. It does >> not appear in the list of messages. I have checked all other folders >> and mail boxes, including Junk and Trash. I then rebuilt all mail >> boxes. > > Hi, Al > > Knowing which email program you are using would help. Oops, sorry for being in a rush. I am using Mail 1.3.11 in OS X 10.3.9 Panther. Thanks, Al From robertmacleay at mac.com Thu May 10 13:24:06 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Thu May 10 13:24:16 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <181362.33309.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 5/10/07 1:47 PM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > I always thought one could drag an image on to the > eMail "open space" i.e the space I writing on as I > type this on... > > In other words, in this application I don't wish to > attach the image just mount it... > > As for the other question, I was was hoping to move > over to Apple's Mail - I'v tired of yahoo's solution I suspect that you are confusing two entirely different processes: your email service and your email client software. The service part is the infrastructure which handles receiving your messages and forwarding them to others, and, of course, vice versa. The client software is what sits on your Mac and you use to compose, send, and receive emails. You can, to a degree, mix and match the two. Your current setup: email service = yahoo mail; email client = a web browser(?). Apple bundles an email client named Mail with OS X, but they do not offer an email service.* To use Mail, you must find an email service compatible with Mail. There are a bunch out there, free and otherwise. You may have this service available through SBC, or if they are cheap bastards, maybe not. Now we get to the part where others will have to step in. I use neither Yahoo mail nor Apple's Mail, and I use Comcast as my ISP, so I can offer no advice. Yahoo may or may not work with Mail; you will have to ask. *Actually, they do, but it's not free; it's part of the $99 per year dot Mac package. From srogers1 at austin.rr.com Thu May 10 13:32:55 2007 From: srogers1 at austin.rr.com (Steven Rogers) Date: Thu May 10 13:33:04 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 10, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > Apple bundles an email client named Mail with OS X, but they do not > offer an email service.* Remember eWorld? http://www.scottconverse.com/apple's_eworld.htm SR From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Thu May 10 13:37:50 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Thu May 10 13:38:01 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <359A359D-751E-41B7-AFD0-0C23887ABF6A@earthlink.net> But as long as you have an ISP you can use it. On May 10, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Steven Rogers wrote: > > On May 10, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > >> Apple bundles an email client named Mail with OS X, but they do >> not offer an email service.* > > > Remember eWorld? > > http://www.scottconverse.com/apple's_eworld.htm > > SR > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From randy at macattorney.com Thu May 10 13:39:50 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Thu May 10 13:40:08 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] $70 Laser Printer! In-Reply-To: <2DC42D01-DB0B-4826-B454-C92DBC5ADC6B@cox.net> References: <20070510035044.C8E0BCF3565@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <2DC42D01-DB0B-4826-B454-C92DBC5ADC6B@cox.net> Message-ID: <7AC83B0F-AAC8-4342-96D8-EF3F75C67B35@macattorney.com> On May 10, 2007, at 7:16 AM, Tom Garrou wrote: > Just checked this at the Staples site. According to the rebate > coupon the printer has to be purchased between 4/15/07 and 4/21/07. Exactly. I posted about that deal on this list on 4/18/07. Generally great deals like this one that I pointed out only last for a few days. When I post about them, if you are interested, you have to jump on them. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Thu May 10 13:46:50 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Thu May 10 13:46:55 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <66361.80338.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Steve didn't eWorld later become AOL? Rich R >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Steven Rogers wrote: > > On May 10, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > > > Apple bundles an email client named Mail with OS > X, but they do not > > offer an email service.* > > > Remember eWorld? > > http://www.scottconverse.com/apple's_eworld.htm > > SR > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From robertmacleay at mac.com Thu May 10 13:57:55 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Thu May 10 13:58:10 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <66361.80338.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 5/10/07 2:46 PM, "Richard Ramsowr" wrote: > Steve > > didn't eWorld later become AOL? > > Rich R Nope; it was Applelink Personal Edition which morphed into AOL. eWorld came later and left sooner. From randy at macattorney.com Thu May 10 18:38:04 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Thu May 10 18:38:18 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <66361.80338.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <66361.80338.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02EC1658-41F9-4960-A805-7A8B55174241@macattorney.com> On May 10, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > didn't eWorld later become AOL? No. AOL is much older than eWorld. The sequence of events was: Apple created AppleLink. AOL purchased the rights to AppleLink from Apple to create AOL. Apple purchased back the improved software from AOL to create eWorld. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From lmorgan at nceyebank.org Fri May 11 09:03:46 2007 From: lmorgan at nceyebank.org (Lee Morgan) Date: Fri May 11 09:03:52 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yahoo hosts my website and I access my email associated with that site through Yahoo Mail. Yahoo Mail works with Outlook - all you have to do is enter the pop server and smtp server information in the Outlook setup and it will suck the mail down off their server and drop it onto your computer. (Sorry to have to mention Outlook, but I have a PC at home.) I assume that it would work pretty much the same with Mail. Yahoo mail is very limited in its ability to include pictures inside an email (as opposed to sending or receiving them as attachments, which it does just fine). I will sometimes receive emails with pictures embedded, but I have yet to figure out how to send one. Lee Morgan On 5/10/07 4:24 PM, "Robert MacLeay" wrote: > Now we get to the part where others will have to step in. I use neither > Yahoo mail nor Apple's Mail, and I use Comcast as my ISP, so I can offer no > advice. Yahoo may or may not work with Mail; you will have to ask. From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Fri May 11 10:40:49 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Fri May 11 10:41:39 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64469F46-0476-4CED-A0A2-F83C51A07DE2@earthlink.net> Wow that must be very expensive. On May 11, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > Yahoo hosts my website and I access my email associated with that site > through Yahoo Mail. Yahoo Mail works with Outlook - all you have > to do is > enter the pop server and smtp server information in the Outlook > setup and it > will suck the mail down off their server and drop it onto your > computer. > (Sorry to have to mention Outlook, but I have a PC at home.) I > assume that > it would work pretty much the same with Mail. > > Yahoo mail is very limited in its ability to include pictures > inside an > email (as opposed to sending or receiving them as attachments, > which it does > just fine). I will sometimes receive emails with pictures > embedded, but I > have yet to figure out how to send one. > > Lee Morgan > > > On 5/10/07 4:24 PM, "Robert MacLeay" wrote: > >> Now we get to the part where others will have to step in. I use >> neither >> Yahoo mail nor Apple's Mail, and I use Comcast as my ISP, so I can >> offer no >> advice. Yahoo may or may not work with Mail; you will have to ask. > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From lmorgan at nceyebank.org Fri May 11 14:03:27 2007 From: lmorgan at nceyebank.org (Lee Morgan) Date: Fri May 11 14:03:43 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <64469F46-0476-4CED-A0A2-F83C51A07DE2@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and it only costs me $20 a month to have it hosted. That's my major advertising outlet for a small business I run out of my home. I chose Yahoo because I was totally new to website creation and maintenance, and they made it very easy. I've since learned a lot more about it and I'm looking at a couple of options which are considerably less expensive. Speaking of which, has anyone ever worked with a company called A Small Orange for website hosting? I've seen very good independent reviews on them. Lee Morgan On 5/11/07 1:40 PM, "J" wrote: > Wow that must be very expensive. > > On May 11, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > >> Yahoo hosts my website and I access my email associated with that site >> through Yahoo Mail. Yahoo Mail works with Outlook - all you have >> to do is >> enter the pop server and smtp server information in the Outlook >> setup and it >> will suck the mail down off their server and drop it onto your >> computer. >> (Sorry to have to mention Outlook, but I have a PC at home.) I >> assume that >> it would work pretty much the same with Mail. >> >> Yahoo mail is very limited in its ability to include pictures >> inside an >> email (as opposed to sending or receiving them as attachments, >> which it does >> just fine). I will sometimes receive emails with pictures >> embedded, but I >> have yet to figure out how to send one. >> >> Lee Morgan >> >> >> On 5/10/07 4:24 PM, "Robert MacLeay" wrote: >> >>> Now we get to the part where others will have to step in. I use >>> neither >>> Yahoo mail nor Apple's Mail, and I use Comcast as my ISP, so I can >>> offer no >>> advice. Yahoo may or may not work with Mail; you will have to ask. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X-Newbies mailing list >> X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From randy at macattorney.com Fri May 11 14:12:17 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Fri May 11 14:12:36 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and it only costs me > $20 a > month to have it hosted. That's an outrageous price these days. I host all of my web sites with: ICDSoft http://icdsoft.com/ http://www2.icdsoft.com/hosting.php For the amazing price of $70/year I get all of the bells and whistles and great 24/7 service! A huge amount of Web space, unlimited e-mail addresses and e-mail hosting, the facility to quickly and easily set up e-mail discussion lists, etc. Renewal of my domain name only costs $5. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Fri May 11 14:23:26 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Fri May 11 14:23:38 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> References: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> Message-ID: Yep that is a huge amount. I pay even less for most of my sites who don't need SCADS of room. A whopping $42/year On May 11, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > >> Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and it only costs me >> $20 a >> month to have it hosted. > > That's an outrageous price these days. > > I host all of my web sites with: > > ICDSoft > http://icdsoft.com/ > http://www2.icdsoft.com/hosting.php > > For the amazing price of $70/year I get all of the bells and > whistles and great 24/7 service! A huge amount of Web space, > unlimited e-mail addresses and e-mail hosting, the facility to > quickly and easily set up e-mail discussion lists, etc. Renewal of > my domain name only costs $5. > > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri May 11 14:41:19 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri May 11 14:41:26 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <513089.58643.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK Who's your provider? Rich therepguy Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- J wrote: > Yep that is a huge amount. I pay even less for most > of my sites who > don't need SCADS of room. > A whopping $42/year > > On May 11, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > > > > On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > > > >> Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and > it only costs me > >> $20 a > >> month to have it hosted. > > > > That's an outrageous price these days. > > > > I host all of my web sites with: > > > > ICDSoft > > http://icdsoft.com/ > > http://www2.icdsoft.com/hosting.php > > > > For the amazing price of $70/year I get all of the > bells and > > whistles and great 24/7 service! A huge amount of > Web space, > > unlimited e-mail addresses and e-mail hosting, the > facility to > > quickly and easily set up e-mail discussion lists, > etc. Renewal of > > my domain name only costs $5. > > > > > > ___________________________________________ > > Randy B. Singer > > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and > 6th editions) > > > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > > ___________________________________________ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > X-Newbies mailing list > > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! > Vintage Mac and random > > stuff: > > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From whm.lists at verizon.net Fri May 11 15:01:29 2007 From: whm.lists at verizon.net (William Morse) Date: Fri May 11 15:01:37 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: References: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <4CD79E68-620F-497D-AB0C-64ED39A47197@verizon.net> I have been very happy with Bluehost.com. $7 a month, gigs of storage and bandwidth, unlimited domains and sub-domains, great service. Regards, Bill Morse Wm. Morse Editions 450 Harrison Ave. Studio 227 Boston, MA 02118 (617) 429-3298 Bill@MorseEditions.com http://www.MorseEditions.com PS - Please note new email and web address On May 11, 2007, at 5:23 PM, J wrote: > Yep that is a huge amount. I pay even less for most of my sites who > don't need SCADS of room. > A whopping $42/year > > On May 11, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > >> >> On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: >> >>> Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and it only costs me >>> $20 a >>> month to have it hosted. >> >> That's an outrageous price these days. >> >> I host all of my web sites with: >> From lmorgan at nceyebank.org Fri May 11 15:09:21 2007 From: lmorgan at nceyebank.org (Lee Morgan) Date: Fri May 11 15:09:37 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> Message-ID: It's a wonderful world where something less than the cost of a night out at the movies is an outrageous price, isn't it? :-) Thanks for the recommendation for a host - that's just what I was looking for. Lee Morgan On 5/11/07 5:12 PM, "Randy B. Singer" wrote: > > On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > >> Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and it only costs me >> $20 a >> month to have it hosted. > > That's an outrageous price these days. > > I host all of my web sites with: > > ICDSoft > http://icdsoft.com/ > http://www2.icdsoft.com/hosting.php > > For the amazing price of $70/year I get all of the bells and whistles > and great 24/7 service! A huge amount of Web space, unlimited e-mail > addresses and e-mail hosting, the facility to quickly and easily set > up e-mail discussion lists, etc. Renewal of my domain name only > costs $5. > > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From john.park at rogers.com Fri May 11 15:10:55 2007 From: john.park at rogers.com (John Park) Date: Fri May 11 15:10:58 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] known issue with .biz email address? In-Reply-To: <4CD79E68-620F-497D-AB0C-64ED39A47197@verizon.net> References: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> <4CD79E68-620F-497D-AB0C-64ED39A47197@verizon.net> Message-ID: <21C686AB-2014-432C-8906-56B68F2FDD86@rogers.com> Hi, is there a known issue with .biz email address being seen as spam? John Park Comedy Entertainer www.johnpark.biz PH# (800) 203 3066 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070511/371c6bc0/attachment.html From list-themacintoshguy at fsck.net Fri May 11 16:13:40 2007 From: list-themacintoshguy at fsck.net (Eugene) Date: Fri May 11 16:14:13 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? In-Reply-To: <6CDEF3B9-ED51-4B0C-BCB7-89BC9183105C@wanadoo.fr> References: <6CDEF3B9-ED51-4B0C-BCB7-89BC9183105C@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <20070511231340.GE7556@user-12lmfba.cable.mindspring.com> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:30:47AM CDT, cyril blanc wrote: : : On May 10, 2007, at 6:11 AM, Robert MacLeay wrote: : : > On 5/9/07 9:50 PM, "cyril blanc" wrote: : > : >> Is it possible to install Tiger on a Mac 8100 AV : > : > In a word, no. : > : > Your Mac has a 601 processor. No one has ever succeeded in getting a : > 601 PPC to boot any version of OS X. : > : > Even if you upgraded it with an accelerator and newer processor, I : > doubt you would find it possible. In a world of $50 Blue & White : > G3 Macs, there is not much point, either. : > : > The maximum official System for the 8100 is MacOS 9.1. : > : > For information on running OS X on Macs that are too old to run it, : > go to http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto : : What a pity. : : Many thanks for your answer The PowerMac 8100 came out in 1994. Expecting it to run any version of Mac OS X is far-fetched as best. -- Eugene http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri May 11 17:00:45 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri May 11 17:29:36 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? In-Reply-To: <20070511231340.GE7556@user-12lmfba.cable.mindspring.com> References: <6CDEF3B9-ED51-4B0C-BCB7-89BC9183105C@wanadoo.fr> <20070511231340.GE7556@user-12lmfba.cable.mindspring.com> Message-ID: On May 11, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Eugene wrote: > The PowerMac 8100 came out in 1994. Expecting it to run any version of > Mac OS X is far-fetched as best. Are you basing this opinion on any thing other than ignorance? My Power Mac 7500 runs OS X just fine, as do many other Macs of that era. See http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/. Phil From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Fri May 11 17:35:41 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Fri May 11 17:35:46 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? In-Reply-To: References: <6CDEF3B9-ED51-4B0C-BCB7-89BC9183105C@wanadoo.fr> <20070511231340.GE7556@user-12lmfba.cable.mindspring.com> Message-ID: The 7500 is not NUBUS. On May 11, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Philip J Robar wrote: > > On May 11, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Eugene wrote: > >> The PowerMac 8100 came out in 1994. Expecting it to run any >> version of >> Mac OS X is far-fetched as best. > > Are you basing this opinion on any thing other than ignorance? My > Power Mac 7500 runs OS X just fine, as do many other Macs of that > era. See http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/. > > Phil > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri May 11 18:53:20 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri May 11 18:53:28 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <4CD79E68-620F-497D-AB0C-64ED39A47197@verizon.net> Message-ID: <811768.8402.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bill If you would, please tell us a little about their "Site Promotion Package"? Thanks in advance Rick aka therepguy Houston +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --- William Morse wrote: > I have been very happy with Bluehost.com. $7 a > month, gigs of storage > and bandwidth, unlimited domains and sub-domains, > great service. > > Regards, > > Bill Morse > > Wm. Morse Editions > 450 Harrison Ave. Studio 227 > Boston, MA 02118 > (617) 429-3298 > > Bill@MorseEditions.com > http://www.MorseEditions.com > > PS - Please note new email and web address > > > On May 11, 2007, at 5:23 PM, J wrote: > > > Yep that is a huge amount. I pay even less for > most of my sites who > > don't need SCADS of room. > > A whopping $42/year > > > > On May 11, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Randy B. Singer > wrote: > > > >> > >> On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > >> > >>> Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and > it only costs me > >>> $20 a > >>> month to have it hosted. > >> > >> That's an outrageous price these days. > >> > >> I host all of my web sites with: > >> > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From srogers1 at austin.rr.com Fri May 11 19:31:36 2007 From: srogers1 at austin.rr.com (Steven Rogers) Date: Fri May 11 19:31:44 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] known issue with .biz email address? In-Reply-To: <21C686AB-2014-432C-8906-56B68F2FDD86@rogers.com> References: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> <4CD79E68-620F-497D-AB0C-64ED39A47197@verizon.net> <21C686AB-2014-432C-8906-56B68F2FDD86@rogers.com> Message-ID: <5232C8DD-7510-490F-A247-9B20341A811D@austin.rr.com> On May 11, 2007, at 5:10 PM, John Park wrote: > Hi, > is there a > known issue with .biz email address being seen as spam? By who or what spam detector? SR From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Fri May 11 19:40:19 2007 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au) Date: Fri May 11 19:40:26 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... Message-ID: <32572295.1178937619337.JavaMail.root@web03sl> For everyone out there a word of caution. It is possible to get great service for very little money a month, but you need to be aware of some of the problems, some of which are good and some of which are catastrophic and best illustrated by my experience with 3 hosting providers: 2Buckwebs.com They started out for me as an attentive, helpful small company. I loved the personal and excellent service but one day I had a problem and discovered they no longer reply to any e-mails and effectively no longer exist. The two sites with them are still up but I presume that will only last until the paid for period ends. Some companies when they disappear just remove your sites without warning so perhaps I am lucky. Dot5hosting Seem great, have lots of recommendations but I cancelled my service with them when I discovered that their support service consistently misunderstood my questions and their billing department also would get things wrong. Frustrating. SurfSpeedy.com I have a half dozen sites with these guys and their service has been consistently great for 3 years now. They are affordable yet fabulous and highly recommended. Their service is better than most expensive hosting options that I am aware of. Tony Johansen http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art ---- Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Bill > > If you would, please tell us a little about their > "Site Promotion Package"? > > Thanks in advance > > Rick aka therepguy > Houston > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > --- William Morse wrote: > > > I have been very happy with Bluehost.com. $7 a > > month, gigs of storage > > and bandwidth, unlimited domains and sub-domains, > > great service. > > > > Regards, > > > > Bill Morse > > > > Wm. Morse Editions > > 450 Harrison Ave. Studio 227 > > Boston, MA 02118 > > (617) 429-3298 > > > > Bill@MorseEditions.com > > http://www.MorseEditions.com > > > > PS - Please note new email and web address > > > > > > On May 11, 2007, at 5:23 PM, J wrote: > > > > > Yep that is a huge amount. I pay even less for > > most of my sites who > > > don't need SCADS of room. > > > A whopping $42/year > > > > > > On May 11, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Randy B. Singer > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: > > >> > > >>> Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and > > it only costs me > > >>> $20 a > > >>> month to have it hosted. > > >> > > >> That's an outrageous price these days. > > >> > > >> I host all of my web sites with: > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > X-Newbies mailing list > > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > > Mac and random stuff: > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Fri May 11 19:46:58 2007 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au) Date: Fri May 11 19:47:07 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Repair Manuals For eMacs Message-ID: <6436489.1178938018289.JavaMail.root@web03sl> Hello guys, Recently someone posted a link to online manuals for taking apart and repairing iBooks at home. It is fantastic and useful as I have an iBook. Got me to thinking: Is there a recommended site for online manuals for taking apart and repairing my eMac? Tony Johansen http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art From bgnss at sbcglobal.net Fri May 11 20:52:37 2007 From: bgnss at sbcglobal.net (Don) Date: Fri May 11 20:52:40 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... Message-ID: <20070512035237.B3B8CD08423@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> >> --- William Morse wrote: >> >> > I have been very happy with Bluehost.com. $7 a >> > month, gigs of storage >> > and bandwidth, unlimited domains and sub-domains, >> > great service. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Bill Morse >> > >> > Wm. Morse Editions >> > 450 Harrison Ave. Studio 227 >> > Boston, MA 02118 >> > (617) 429-3298 I second the motion on Bluehost. Once a year billing keeps it simple. Online help forums are available though I've never needed them. Occasional phone calls are always courteously handled. Once a support guy downloaded a software and spotted the reason it wouldn't install... and handled it even though it was really custom, and totally unsupported as far as bluehost was concerned. Fifteen minutes after dialing it was running happily with a good explanation why the problem was happening so I could so it would be at least possible to fix it myself the next time. Don From bgnss at sbcglobal.net Fri May 11 20:56:31 2007 From: bgnss at sbcglobal.net (Don) Date: Fri May 11 20:56:34 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] A B&W G3 question Message-ID: <20070512035631.41B3BD08520@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Is anyone here running X.3 Panther on a B&W 300 mhz Rev 1 version machine? Two different X copies refuse to install on four different machines. I'm thinking a software issue as opposed to a Bad disk or bad machine. Any ideas of how to succeed. Its only a system install for cryin out loud. BTW, they are NOT pirated CD's, just the normal black ones with the X on them. Thanks Don From chris at mymac.demon.co.uk Fri May 11 23:27:26 2007 From: chris at mymac.demon.co.uk (Chris) Date: Fri May 11 23:27:39 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Website hosting - was an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: References: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <20070512062726.786584407@post.demon.co.uk> I'll put in a word for Clook http://www.clook.us Prices from $49.99/year and excellent service. Chris On 11/5/07 Lee Morgan wrote: >It's a wonderful world where something less than the cost of a night out at >the movies is an outrageous price, isn't it? :-) Thanks for the >recommendation for a host - that's just what I was looking for. > >Lee Morgan > > >On 5/11/07 5:12 PM, "Randy B. Singer" wrote: > >> >> On May 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Lee Morgan wrote: >> >>> Actually, it isn't. I have a small website, and it only costs me >>> $20 a >>> month to have it hosted. >> >> That's an outrageous price these days. >> >> I host all of my web sites with: >> >> ICDSoft >> http://icdsoft.com/ >> http://www2.icdsoft.com/hosting.php >> >> For the amazing price of $70/year I get all of the bells and whistles >> and great 24/7 service! A huge amount of Web space, unlimited e-mail >> addresses and e-mail hosting, the facility to quickly and easily set >> up e-mail discussion lists, etc. Renewal of my domain name only >> costs $5. >> >> >> ___________________________________________ >> Randy B. Singer >> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) >> >> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance >> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html >> ___________________________________________ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X-Newbies mailing list >> X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > >_______________________________________________ >X-Newbies mailing list >X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From chasm at mac.com Sat May 12 01:33:22 2007 From: chasm at mac.com (Charles Martin) Date: Sat May 12 01:34:32 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: MAC 8100 AV, Tiger ? In-Reply-To: <20070510035045.3C1A5CF3568@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070510035045.3C1A5CF3568@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <557F8CF8-EE91-4222-B096-06149FE5A46B@mac.com> > From: cyril blanc > > Is it possible to install Tiger on a Mac 8100 AV Is it POSSIBLE? Well, XPostFacto has been known to work miracles but even XPF might choke on that particular request. Is it A GOOD IDEA, even IF it's possible? Definitely not. Can't imagine what would possess someone to even want to attempt this except extreme boredom. Cheers Chas From chasm at mac.com Sat May 12 01:41:44 2007 From: chasm at mac.com (Charles Martin) Date: Sat May 12 01:42:18 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: <20070510194722.DDB19CFA8F3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070510194722.DDB19CFA8F3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: > From: Richard Ramsowr > I've got a question on about composing an eMail... > > I currently using AT&T /Yahoo Mail alone with AT&T as > my DSL provider... I interpret this as "I do not currently use a real email program for my email, and instead read my email via a web browser using Yahoo Mail's webpage." Is that correct? > > I"m trying to embed (thank that's the correct term) a > doc image into the body of the eMail i.e when a > person open the email they should see a view of my > letterhead with text, a photo and/or other images that > I might embed in the body of the eMail. > > How do I go about do this? You're not. What you want is impossible given your situation. The next version of Mail will have some lovely HTML templates that you can simply drag-and-drop (or copy/paste) your text and photos et al into which produces a result exactly like you describe. Another possibility is to design a page to your liking in a layout program (like, for example, InDesign or Print Shop) and then save it as a PDF or image file (JPG, TIF, etc). Then attach (not embed) the PDF or image file AS your message in a real email program (such as Mail or Entourage). The recipient (at least if they're on a Mac) will see the image as the body of your email. But of course you are not presently using a real email program (if I understand you correctly), so neither of these options are available to you. > While I'm at it does anyone know how I can turn off > yahoo's mail service in favor of Apple's Mail? I interpret this as "I would like to receive my email in Apple's Mail program instead of through Yahoo's web page. How can I do that?" If I interpreted you correctly, the answer is "pay Yahoo $20." Then they will allow you to set up a POP account in your email program that can access your Yahoo mail. From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Sat May 12 01:53:43 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Sat May 12 01:53:53 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: an eMail Question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <601604.28240.qm@web81414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes --- Charles Martin wrote: > > From: Richard Ramsowr > > I've got a question on about composing an eMail... > > > > I currently using AT&T /Yahoo Mail alone with AT&T > as > > my DSL provider... > > I interpret this as "I do not currently use a real > email program for > my email, and instead read my email via a web > browser using Yahoo > Mail's webpage." > > Is that correct? > > > > > I"m trying to embed (thank that's the correct > term) a > > doc image into the body of the eMail i.e when a > > person open the email they should see a view of my > > letterhead with text, a photo and/or other images > that > > I might embed in the body of the eMail. > > > > How do I go about do this? > > You're not. What you want is impossible given your > situation. > > The next version of Mail will have some lovely HTML > templates that > you can simply drag-and-drop (or copy/paste) your > text and photos et > al into which produces a result exactly like you > describe. > > Another possibility is to design a page to your > liking in a layout > program (like, for example, InDesign or Print Shop) > and then save it > as a PDF or image file (JPG, TIF, etc). Then attach > (not embed) the > PDF or image file AS your message in a real email > program (such as > Mail or Entourage). The recipient (at least if > they're on a Mac) will > see the image as the body of your email. > > But of course you are not presently using a real > email program (if I > understand you correctly), so neither of these > options are available > to you. > > > While I'm at it does anyone know how I can turn > off > > yahoo's mail service in favor of Apple's Mail? > > I interpret this as "I would like to receive my > email in Apple's Mail > program instead of through Yahoo's web page. How can > I do that?" > > If I interpreted you correctly, the answer is "pay > Yahoo $20." > > Then they will allow you to set up a POP account in > your email > program that can access your Yahoo mail. > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From chasm at mac.com Sat May 12 02:32:31 2007 From: chasm at mac.com (Charles Martin) Date: Sat May 12 02:33:03 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Repair Manuals For eMacs In-Reply-To: <20070512084223.2930FD0B0E8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070512084223.2930FD0B0E8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <00F1EA5C-431D-4F95-BE08-52029A5C7268@mac.com> > From: > > Recently someone posted a link to online manuals for taking apart > and repairing iBooks at home. It is fantastic and useful as I have > an iBook. > > Got me to thinking: Is there a recommended site for online manuals > for taking apart and repairing my eMac? I do this for a living, and I'd just like to tell you as emphatically as I know how: YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. You really, really, REALLY don't want to start crawling around inside an eMac. It's not pretty. Seriously. You don't want to do that. As you (hopefully) will see if and when you get the manuals or online guides. Cheers Chas From john.park at rogers.com Sat May 12 04:53:16 2007 From: john.park at rogers.com (John Park) Date: Sat May 12 04:53:53 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] known issue with .biz email address? In-Reply-To: <5232C8DD-7510-490F-A247-9B20341A811D@austin.rr.com> References: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> <4CD79E68-620F-497D-AB0C-64ED39A47197@verizon.net> <21C686AB-2014-432C-8906-56B68F2FDD86@rogers.com> <5232C8DD-7510-490F-A247-9B20341A811D@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: <593FC23C-A0C3-48F6-A5EF-E7CB60DAD7D3@rogers.com> All I can tell you is I sent an email from john@johnpark.biz to tim@juggler.com and the administrator said anything with a .biz gets flagged as spam and doesn't get through because .biz is so well known as being spammy... On May 11, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Steven Rogers wrote: > > On May 11, 2007, at 5:10 PM, John Park wrote: > >> Hi, >> is there a >> known issue with .biz email address being seen as spam? > > By who or what spam detector? > > SR > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070512/d8926718/attachment.html From srogers1 at austin.rr.com Sat May 12 08:02:25 2007 From: srogers1 at austin.rr.com (Steven Rogers) Date: Sat May 12 08:02:30 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] known issue with .biz email address? In-Reply-To: <593FC23C-A0C3-48F6-A5EF-E7CB60DAD7D3@rogers.com> References: <6BEB710D-162F-45B9-943E-BA31F73D97BA@macattorney.com> <4CD79E68-620F-497D-AB0C-64ED39A47197@verizon.net> <21C686AB-2014-432C-8906-56B68F2FDD86@rogers.com> <5232C8DD-7510-490F-A247-9B20341A811D@austin.rr.com> <593FC23C-A0C3-48F6-A5EF-E7CB60DAD7D3@rogers.com> Message-ID: <003FD77C-1E06-4233-843B-18253D3FB7F7@austin.rr.com> On May 12, 2007, at 6:53 AM, John Park wrote: > All I can tell you is I sent an email from john@johnpark.biz to > tim@juggler.com and the administrator said anything with a .biz > gets flagged as spam and doesn't get through because .biz is so > well known as being spammy... Then yes, there's an issue with the administrator at juggler.com seeing .biz as spam. That's a stupid approach to handling spam, IMO, but that doesn't really matter. Every domain is used to originate spam. The question is not whether a domain is "spammy" (as if that meant anything) but whether you expect to get legitimate mail from that domain. Many people could dump some country-specific domains like .kr, but generally throwing out all mail from a domain is not a solution. You might try saying "I'm not a spammer, and I have a .biz domain - what about that?". But in any case, it's unlikely that you'll be able to talk the admin out of his current approach. If you want to send them email, send it from a yahoo or hotmail account - one of those domains that is so well known for being spam free. SR From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Sat May 12 18:54:51 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Sat May 12 18:55:00 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Digital Recorder Question Message-ID: I am looking at a digital recorder with USB connection such as this one: http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-WS-320M-Digital-Recorder-Player/dp/ B000BJ3BRO/ref=sr_1_5/103-4336298-0031820? ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1179020298&sr=1-5 Says it results in WMA format which plays in WMP/or that other thing you install on the Intel Macs...but doesn't list Macs although it says it can plug into Mac or PC. Question is, what to use to translate the WMA file to MP3? And, is non-rechargable battery the only source of power? I would be using the 22. mode because I don't want huge files to post. I am looking at this instead of Audi Hijacking my web stream...because I want to use it for man on the street as well. From chris at mymac.demon.co.uk Sat May 12 23:52:42 2007 From: chris at mymac.demon.co.uk (Chris) Date: Sat May 12 23:52:52 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Digital Recorder Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070513065242.1403972745@post.demon.co.uk> On 12/5/07 J wrote: >Question is, what to use to translate the WMA file to MP3? Easy WMA Drag/drop your WMA files for conversion. >And, is non-rechargable battery the only source of power? According to the Olympus US site the 320 takes one AAA cell. I have a DM20 (may be different in the US) which takes AAA cells and athough I've not used rechargeables, I doubt you would have any trouble. Cells and chargers are widely available. HTH Chris From randy at macattorney.com Sun May 13 00:56:17 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B.Singer) Date: Sun May 13 01:57:12 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Repair Manuals For eMacs In-Reply-To: <6436489.1178938018289.JavaMail.root@web03sl> References: <6436489.1178938018289.JavaMail.root@web03sl> Message-ID: On May 11, 2007, at 7:46 PM, wrote: > Got me to thinking: Is there a recommended site for online manuals > for taking apart and repairing my eMac? Apple's service manuals used to be available for download, but their legal department has worked hard to make sure that they are no longer available to end users. These may help: http://www.apple.com/support/emac/doityourself/ http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/emac/ http://www.apple.com/support/emac/index.html ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From mk3ds2 at cox.net Sun May 13 08:39:09 2007 From: mk3ds2 at cox.net (Tom Garrou) Date: Sun May 13 08:39:19 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] $70 Laser Printer! In-Reply-To: <20070511174144.89BA6D04391@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070511174144.89BA6D04391@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <58254039-6776-4AAC-BC69-225A3833DE0A@cox.net> > On May 10, 2007, at 7:16 AM, Tom Garrou wrote: > >> Just checked this at the Staples site. According to the rebate >> coupon the printer has to be purchased between 4/15/07 and 4/21/07. > > Exactly. I posted about that deal on this list on 4/18/07. > Generally great deals like this one that I pointed out only last for > a few days. When I post about them, if you are interested, you have > to jump on them. > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer I would have loved to jump on it but, for some reason, I received no mail from this list from April 17 to May 9. Actually I think the laser printer in question is a good value even without the rebate. (or so I'm trying to convince myself.) Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070513/2accd753/attachment-0001.html From jwarms at mac.com Sun May 13 13:49:59 2007 From: jwarms at mac.com (Jon Warms) Date: Sun May 13 13:50:03 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Repair Manuals For eMacs In-Reply-To: <20070513153923.AA14FD1B267@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070513153923.AA14FD1B267@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <5E729671-0112-1000-D1BB-E2C284C140AA-Webmail-10007@mac.com> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/ I've used their guides for the Powerbook, the MB, and the MBP. I agree that working inside many of the new machines is challenging and fraught with the possibility of ultimate junk generation, but these guides are clear and helpful, with appropriate cautions. Jon ============= From: Recently someone posted a link to online manuals for taking apart and repairing iBooks at home. It is fantastic and useful as I have an iBook. Got me to thinking: Is there a recommended site for online manuals for taking apart and repairing my eMac? ============= From randy at macattorney.com Sun May 13 14:57:14 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Sun May 13 14:57:23 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] $70 Laser Printer! In-Reply-To: <58254039-6776-4AAC-BC69-225A3833DE0A@cox.net> References: <20070511174144.89BA6D04391@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <58254039-6776-4AAC-BC69-225A3833DE0A@cox.net> Message-ID: <809B085E-2894-4121-87BC-1005E2147F59@macattorney.com> On May 13, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Tom Garrou wrote: > Actually I think the laser printer in question is a good value even > without the rebate. (or so I'm trying to convince myself.) Have a look at: Samsung ML2010 - Factory Recertified $63 with free shipping! http://3btech.net/samlblandwhl.html specs: Manual: http://samlaser2.notlong.com ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Sun May 13 20:12:01 2007 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au) Date: Sun May 13 20:12:16 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Repair Manuals For eMacs Message-ID: <6140975.1179112321277.JavaMail.root@web02sl> > > Got me to thinking: Is there a recommended site for online manuals > > for taking apart and repairing my eMac? > I do this for a living, and I'd just like to tell you as emphatically > as I know how: > YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. > > You really, really, REALLY don't want to start crawling around inside > an eMac. It's not pretty. > > Seriously. You don't want to do that. As you (hopefully) will see if > and when you get the manuals or online guides. > > Cheers > Chas Chas, Looking at the instructions for taking apart an eMac I can see some potential pitfalls that someone who is not very methodical may well find very problematic, but the instructions are clear and so long as obvious dangers such as electrical discharge are handled with caution it all seems straight forward. (I am the sort to put screws in labeled saucers etc, labeling parts, laying them all out in a logical sequence on a table etc), so I usually have less difficulty than many do when making home repairs to complex equipment. Having said that it does appear to be less simple than dismantling the iBook. I am curious, considering your strong and obviously experienced recommendation not to do this, why you think so. Is it just that because the eMac is physically larger it makes for more difficulties? Is the CRT and the dangers associated with voltage your concern? Do you think it more difficult than an iBook to take apart? Are there parts and situations inside that simply do not match the neat descriptions and photos of the manual? Or is it just that you have seen many sloppy workers who got one half apart and then brought it to you to figure out the rest? Tony Johansen http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art From chasm at mac.com Mon May 14 00:39:25 2007 From: chasm at mac.com (Charles Martin) Date: Mon May 14 00:40:00 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Repair Manuals For eMacs In-Reply-To: <6140975.1179112321277.JavaMail.root@web02sl> References: <6140975.1179112321277.JavaMail.root@web02sl> Message-ID: > Looking at the instructions for taking apart an eMac I can see some > potential pitfalls that someone who is not very methodical may well > find very problematic, but the instructions are clear and so long > as obvious dangers such as electrical discharge are handled with > caution it all seems straight forward. (I am the sort to put screws > in labeled saucers etc, labeling parts, laying them all out in a > logical sequence on a table etc), so I usually have less difficulty > than many do when making home repairs to complex equipment. Most people, in my experience, do not have the patience (or sometimes the comprehension skills) to actually read directions carefully and take ALL due safety precautions. Given that the eMac is a CRT-based Mac and thus there is a risk of DEATH if not handled properly, I urge non-professionals to avoid working with it. > Having said that it does appear to be less simple than dismantling > the iBook. > > I am curious, considering your strong and obviously experienced > recommendation not to do this, why you think so. In addition to the text above, I also know the eMac's "guts" very well and know that it's parts are VERY awkwardly-placed, difficult to access and hard to experience (ie thick) hands to get into without scraping skin against (sharp) metal. The illustrations in the manual do not cover ANY of that. I might add that the eMac, like the G4 iBook, has a LOT of different-sized screws so you really can't get them mixed up. In short, I don't think working on an eMac is impossible. I work on them, and I don't consider myself mechanically gifted. But I would NEVER do this stuff if I wasn't being paid handsomely to do it, it's very tedious and difficult and needs to be very carefully done in order to do it right. Most Apple products are not nearly as difficult as the G4 iBook and the eMac, which is something I don't think most people understand. You sound like Apple Tech material so you could probably find your way through all right: the vast majority of people reading this are NOT up to that level. (not to even mention the scarcity of parts and the inability to order them: what do you do if you get deep inside the thing and find that some capacitors on the logic board are bulging? It's not like you can run down to the PC parts store and get a replacement!) Finally, even as someone who has access to eMac parts, we have found that Apple's replacement parts have a VERY high rate of defect and are often DOA. I have on our bench RIGHT NOW about five eMacs which have been waiting about THREE MONTHS for replacement logic boards. We receive an average of one per month, and most of the ones we have gotten were dead on arrival and had to be sent back. And this is an Apple Authorised Repair Centre! The guy in his garage sure as heck isn't going to have better luck than we are! > Or is it just that you have seen many sloppy workers who got one > half apart and then brought it to you to figure out the rest? That too. :) From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Mon May 14 13:03:41 2007 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Mon May 14 13:03:52 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Converting ringtone to mp3, QuickTime or something else. Message-ID: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> Hi again, Any software to convert ringtone (midi or .mmf) to something more useful like mp3, Quick Time, etc? Cheers, Brian From themacintoshlady at earthlink.net Mon May 14 13:20:29 2007 From: themacintoshlady at earthlink.net (J) Date: Mon May 14 13:20:39 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Digital Recorder Question In-Reply-To: <20070513065242.1403972745@post.demon.co.uk> References: <20070513065242.1403972745@post.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <5B3CB334-531A-42A2-A4B3-5B369B8E4D58@earthlink.net> It doesn't mention using them so now I wonder if I've made a mistake to buy that kind On May 13, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Chris wrote: > On 12/5/07 J wrote: > >> Question is, what to use to translate the WMA file to MP3? > > Easy WMA Drag/drop your WMA files for > conversion. > >> And, is non-rechargable battery the only source of power? > > According to the Olympus US site the 320 takes one AAA cell. I have a > DM20 (may be different in the US) which takes AAA cells and athough > I've > not used rechargeables, I doubt you would have any trouble. Cells and > chargers are widely available. > > HTH > > Chris > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jwarms at mac.com Sun May 13 17:46:42 2007 From: jwarms at mac.com (Jon Warms) Date: Mon May 14 13:36:05 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Repair Manuals For eMacs In-Reply-To: <20070513153923.AA14FD1B267@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070513153923.AA14FD1B267@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/ I've used their guides for the Powerbook, the MB, and the MBP. I agree that working inside many of the new machines is challenging and fraught with the possibility of ultimate junk generation, but these guides are clear and helpful, with appropriate cautions. Jon > From: > > Recently someone posted a link to online manuals for taking apart > and repairing iBooks at home. It is fantastic and useful as I have > an iBook. > > Got me to thinking: Is there a recommended site for online manuals > for taking apart and repairing my eMac? From philip.robar at gmail.com Mon May 14 17:34:06 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Mon May 14 17:34:38 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] A B&W G3 question In-Reply-To: <20070512035631.41B3BD08520@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070512035631.41B3BD08520@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <5F60F5A0-CB8F-46C5-ABAF-3A5FA16FFC30@gmail.com> On May 11, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Don wrote: > Is anyone here running X.3 Panther on a B&W 300 > mhz Rev 1 version machine? I've run it and Tiger on a 400 MHz B&W Rev. 1. > Two different X copies refuse to install on four different > machines. I'm thinking a software issue as opposed to a > Bad disk or bad machine. Refuse how? Perhaps you have DVD install Discs and your machines CD- ROM drives? Phil From randy at macattorney.com Tue May 15 10:09:26 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Tue May 15 10:09:42 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Converting ringtone to mp3, QuickTime or something else. In-Reply-To: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Brian Durant wrote: > Any software to convert ringtone (midi or .mmf) to something more > useful like mp3, Quick Time, etc? MusicMan ($20) http://www.mireth.com/pub/mpme.html ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Tue May 15 10:47:48 2007 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Tue May 15 10:47:59 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Converting ringtone to mp3, QuickTime or something else. In-Reply-To: References: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2552fa090705151047p18ea8948xe6ddf9db1bef6fa6@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Randy. MM keeps quiting on me. I am using 10.4.9 Tiger. It also doesn't seem to recognize .mid or .mmf files. Weird, as Quick Time recognizes the files. Any alternative suggestions? Cheers, Brian On 5/15/07, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > On May 14, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Brian Durant wrote: > > > Any software to convert ringtone (midi or .mmf) to something more > > useful like mp3, Quick Time, etc? > > MusicMan ($20) > http://www.mireth.com/pub/mpme.html > > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Tue May 15 11:00:11 2007 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Tue May 15 11:00:21 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Converting ringtone to mp3, QuickTime or something else. In-Reply-To: References: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2552fa090705151100o54ee3266xa1c77b01b370d246@mail.gmail.com> Wow, I just found out on Mac OS X Hints that iTunes can handle this. I tried it and it seems to work just fine. Check it out: Brian On 5/15/07, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > On May 14, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Brian Durant wrote: > > > Any software to convert ringtone (midi or .mmf) to something more > > useful like mp3, Quick Time, etc? > > MusicMan ($20) > http://www.mireth.com/pub/mpme.html > > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From randy at macattorney.com Tue May 15 11:18:12 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Tue May 15 11:18:16 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Converting ringtone to mp3, QuickTime or something else. In-Reply-To: <2552fa090705151047p18ea8948xe6ddf9db1bef6fa6@mail.gmail.com> References: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> <2552fa090705151047p18ea8948xe6ddf9db1bef6fa6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <85D56D65-16D3-450C-84B9-122288B15300@macattorney.com> On May 15, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Brian Durant wrote: > Thanks Randy. MM keeps quiting on me. Go into: ~/Library/Preferences and delete its preferences file. > Any alternative suggestions? See if iTune's built-in translators can handle the files that you want to convert. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From dfmanno at TOAST.NET Tue May 15 17:17:40 2007 From: dfmanno at TOAST.NET (dfmanno@TOAST.NET) Date: Tue May 15 17:18:01 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Questions re: Classic, Applications folder, firewall, faxing Message-ID: <47a80206cf4d46ec89ec37280190d764.dfmanno@TOAST.NET> I recently purchased a used iBook G4, and the vendor pre-loaded it with Tiger. I have no experience with OS X (my desktop runs 9.2.2), and so I have some questions: 1) I know that Tiger runs non-X apps under Classic. How do I tell if Classic is installed, and if it is not, how do I install it? 2) Is it OK to create subfolders in the Applications folder? 3) Is the firewall in Tiger good enough security, or should I be looking for a third-party firewall? How do I activate Tiger's firewall? 4) What's the easiest way to fax under Tiger? Thanks for any help. D.F. Manno From randy at macattorney.com Tue May 15 17:35:50 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Tue May 15 17:36:05 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Questions re: Classic, Applications folder, firewall, faxing In-Reply-To: <47a80206cf4d46ec89ec37280190d764.dfmanno@TOAST.NET> References: <47a80206cf4d46ec89ec37280190d764.dfmanno@TOAST.NET> Message-ID: <5B6C8514-62B4-462D-9075-8FB5D01E6EB3@macattorney.com> On May 15, 2007, at 5:17 PM, "" wrote: > I recently purchased a used iBook G4, and the vendor pre-loaded it > with Tiger. I have no experience with OS X (my desktop runs 9.2.2), > and > so I have some questions: I heartily recommend: Mac OS X: The Missing Manual, Tiger edition $19.77 or http://tinyurl.com/9mwg3 > 1) I know that Tiger runs non-X apps under Classic. How do I tell > if Classic is installed, and if it is not, how do I install it? Go into System Preferences (in the Apple menu.) Is there a preference for Classic? If so, open it and click on Start. What does it tell you? Another way to tell is to open your boot drive's icon and look for "System Folder" (NOT "System, " which is an OS X system folder) and look inside and see if the OS 9 system is in it. > 2) Is it OK to create subfolders in the Applications folder? It is okay to create files and folders more or less anywhere you want. Just like under OS 9. And just like under OS 9, it is probably not a good idea to add new files and folders into areas that contain system software. And advantage of putting Applications in the Applications folder is that you will be able to use Services Also, Apple software won't be updated if it isn't where Apple's installer originally put it. (Apple's updaters only look for stuff where it was originally put.) > 3) Is the firewall in Tiger good enough security, or should I be > looking for a third-party firewall? How do I activate Tiger's > firewall? It is plenty good. However, you may prefer to use the firewall in your router, if you are using one. (Less overhead.) You turn it on in System Preferences --> Sharing --> Firewall. > 4) What's the easiest way to fax under Tiger? Choose Print in any application with a document open you want to fax--> click on PDF button --> Fax PDF. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From robertmacleay at mac.com Tue May 15 17:42:52 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Tue May 15 17:43:00 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Questions re: Classic, Applications folder, firewall, faxing In-Reply-To: <47a80206cf4d46ec89ec37280190d764.dfmanno@TOAST.NET> Message-ID: On 5/15/07 6:17 PM, "dfmanno@TOAST.NET" wrote: > I recently purchased a used iBook G4, and the vendor pre-loaded it with Tiger. > I have no experience with OS X (my desktop runs 9.2.2), and > so I have some questions: > > 1) I know that Tiger runs non-X apps under Classic. How do I tell if Classic > is installed, and if it is not, how do I install it? Go to System Preferences > System > Classic to find out. If it is not there, drag the System Folder from an existing MacOS 9 installation (preferably for your specific model) onto your Root directory -- doing a direct install of 9 onto a previously existing OS X installation will screw up OS X. Then (you may have to restart first) open the Classic control panel to configure it (you will be coached). > 2) Is it OK to create subfolders in the Applications folder? Yes, BUT some applications don't like it; some will work fine in a subfolder. MacOS 9/Classic expects to find its applications in a folder named ?Applications (Mac OS 9)? at the root level. Create one if it is not there. > 3) Is the firewall in Tiger good enough security, or should I be looking for a > third-party firewall? How do I activate Tiger's firewall? It is plenty good. Go System Preferences > Sharing > Firewall > 4) What's the easiest way to fax under Tiger? Buy PageSender. Nothing else comes close. www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/14537 > Thanks for any help. > > D.F. Manno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070515/6f4f78b9/attachment.html From lmyrvold at yahoo.com Tue May 15 18:14:15 2007 From: lmyrvold at yahoo.com (Luther A. Myrvold) Date: Tue May 15 18:14:23 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Wait for OS 10.5? Message-ID: <122071.45931.qm@web61119.mail.yahoo.com> I have a G4 iBook running OS 10.3.9 - 640 memory and 100 GB drive. Should I upgrade to OS 10.4 now or wait for OS 10.5 and then upgrade with the new system? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From mk3ds2 at cox.net Wed May 16 17:38:58 2007 From: mk3ds2 at cox.net (Tom Garrou) Date: Wed May 16 17:39:07 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] $70 Laser Printer! In-Reply-To: <20070515174805.A4BAFD33932@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070515174805.A4BAFD33932@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <96249C00-E02E-43AB-B3F6-24993EC930CE@cox.net> > Have a look at: > > Samsung ML2010 - Factory Recertified > > $63 with free shipping! > > Randy B. Singer Randy, thanks for the post. Ordered the printer today. Do you have a recommendation for a good supplier for toners for this unit? thanks in advance. Tom Garrou -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070516/a8a05d33/attachment.html From list-themacintoshguy at fsck.net Wed May 16 17:59:10 2007 From: list-themacintoshguy at fsck.net (Eugene) Date: Wed May 16 17:59:48 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Wait for OS 10.5? In-Reply-To: <122071.45931.qm@web61119.mail.yahoo.com> References: <122071.45931.qm@web61119.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070517005909.GB26775@user-12lmfba.cable.mindspring.com> On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 08:14:15PM CDT, Luther A. Myrvold wrote: : : I have a G4 iBook running OS 10.3.9 - 640 memory and : 100 GB drive. : : Should I upgrade to OS 10.4 now or wait for OS 10.5 : and then upgrade with the new system? If you depend on certain apps that require or run better on Tiger, then upgrade. Otherwise, the newer releases tend to require more RAM. So I think you should consider maxing out your RAM to 1.12 GB. -- Eugene http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 16 20:23:37 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 16 20:23:52 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] $70 Laser Printer! In-Reply-To: <96249C00-E02E-43AB-B3F6-24993EC930CE@cox.net> References: <20070515174805.A4BAFD33932@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <96249C00-E02E-43AB-B3F6-24993EC930CE@cox.net> Message-ID: On May 16, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Tom Garrou wrote: > Randy, thanks for the post. Ordered the printer today. I hope that you enjoy it! > Do you have a recommendation for a good supplier for toners for > this unit? Sure! Here is a compatible cartridge from a source that I trust for only $33: http://www.meritline.com/samsung-ml2010d3-compatible-black-toner- cartridge.html This cartridge is about 1/3 the cost of what most places charge. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From mk3ds2 at cox.net Wed May 16 21:21:11 2007 From: mk3ds2 at cox.net (Tom Garrou) Date: Wed May 16 21:21:17 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] $70 Laser Printer! In-Reply-To: <20070517032354.6E056D44421@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070517032354.6E056D44421@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <8F9CCE20-F9D0-40C1-89E1-C96013C47CF4@cox.net> >> Do you have a recommendation for a good supplier for toners for >> this unit? > > Sure! > > Here is a compatible cartridge from a source that I trust for only > $33: > > http://www.meritline.com/samsung-ml2010d3-compatible-black-toner- > cartridge.html > > This cartridge is about 1/3 the cost of what most places charge. Thanks again, Randy. Really appreciate your help. Tom Garrou -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070517/e53d4e82/attachment.html From chasm at mac.com Wed May 16 22:59:46 2007 From: chasm at mac.com (Charles Martin) Date: Wed May 16 23:00:04 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Questions re: Classic, Applications folder firewall, faxing In-Reply-To: <20070517032354.A2F69D44422@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070517032354.A2F69D44422@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <8D4D372A-A3EE-4DA3-AF90-650F68F5F13F@mac.com> > From: "" > > I recently purchased a used iBook G4, and the vendor pre-loaded it > with Tiger. Are you saying he did not give you the original install discs, which had Tiger on them? Because if that's the case, he not only ripped YOU off, he broke the law doing it. > 1) I know that Tiger runs non-X apps under Classic. How do I tell > if Classic is installed, and if it is not, how do I install it? Under the Apple Menu is System Preferences. In System Preferences (think Control Panel), there is a section on Classic. If there is a valid OS 9 folder on your system, it will show up in the list. If not, you can install OS 9.2 or higher as you would normally -- just don't erase the drive! PS. Wean yourself off those OS 9 programs *fast.* > 2) Is it OK to create subfolders in the Applications folder? I do, so I would say yes. :) HOWEVER, be sure that NOTHING but apps is in the Applications folder. Very important. > 3) Is the firewall in Tiger good enough security, or should I be > looking for a third-party firewall? How do I activate Tiger's > firewall? You do not need the firewall. Period, end of sentence. Don't bother with it, don't turn it on. If you really feel you need a "firewall" for DDoS attacks, buy a router. It has a (far superior) automatic hardware firewall already in it. > 4) What's the easiest way to fax under Tiger? Since you mention you have an iBook G4, nothing could be simpler: 1. Apple Menu -> System Preferences -> Printing and Fax 2. Turn on Faxing. Follow the instructions. Check the Help file if you need help. 3. When you want to fax, activate the Print dialog box and look where it says "PDF." Under those options you can fax (instead of print) the document. Cheers Chas From listaddr at earthlink.net Thu May 17 13:20:37 2007 From: listaddr at earthlink.net (David Brostoff) Date: Thu May 17 13:20:48 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Questions re: Classic, Applications folder firewall, faxing In-Reply-To: <8D4D372A-A3EE-4DA3-AF90-650F68F5F13F@mac.com> References: <20070517032354.A2F69D44422@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <8D4D372A-A3EE-4DA3-AF90-650F68F5F13F@mac.com> Message-ID: At 1:59 AM -0400 on 5/17/07, Charles Martin wrote: >HOWEVER, be sure that NOTHING but apps is in the Applications >folder. Very important. Could you elaborate? I see lots of application-installed Read Me and other files in Applications (Third-Party). Thank you, David From john.park at rogers.com Thu May 17 18:59:49 2007 From: john.park at rogers.com (John Park) Date: Thu May 17 18:59:55 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] sleeping and waking mac at night In-Reply-To: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11ECFC63-AD9C-43FF-AB92-0B701B98B431@rogers.com> Hi, I listen to the radio at night. When I go to sleep,I like to have it on a sleep timer and when I stir in the middle of the night, i like to listen again with a sleep timer. Can I do this with my mac to listen to my podcasts? I see the mac normally goes to sleep, when inactive, not just for a specified time. But I would like it to play itunes for 30 min, go to sleep, keep it's place in the playlist or podcast, and by touching a key, or space bar, do it all again. Any help on this? thanks, John Park Comedy Entertainer www.johnpark.biz PH# (800) 203 3066 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-newbies/attachments/20070517/33eaf163/attachment.html From srogers1 at austin.rr.com Thu May 17 22:11:14 2007 From: srogers1 at austin.rr.com (Steven Rogers) Date: Thu May 17 22:11:19 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] sleeping and waking mac at night In-Reply-To: <11ECFC63-AD9C-43FF-AB92-0B701B98B431@rogers.com> References: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> <11ECFC63-AD9C-43FF-AB92-0B701B98B431@rogers.com> Message-ID: <1A44A731-5A7D-45B1-BC12-010C83DEE224@austin.rr.com> On May 17, 2007, at 8:59 PM, John Park wrote: > Hi, > I listen to the radio at night. When I go to sleep,I like to have > it on a sleep timer and when I stir in the middle of the night, i > like to listen again with a sleep timer. > > Can I do this with my mac to listen to my podcasts? > > I see the mac normally goes to sleep, when inactive, not just for a > specified time. > > But I would like it to play itunes for 30 min, go to sleep, keep > it's place in the playlist or podcast, and by touching a key, or > space bar, do it all again. This isn't exactly like that, but it's a start. SR From srogers1 at austin.rr.com Thu May 17 22:11:51 2007 From: srogers1 at austin.rr.com (Steven Rogers) Date: Thu May 17 22:11:55 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] sleeping and waking mac at night In-Reply-To: <11ECFC63-AD9C-43FF-AB92-0B701B98B431@rogers.com> References: <2552fa090705141303y36c9b6e1m949e15d9ca58f9b0@mail.gmail.com> <11ECFC63-AD9C-43FF-AB92-0B701B98B431@rogers.com> Message-ID: On May 17, 2007, at 8:59 PM, John Park wrote: > Hi, > I listen to the radio at night. When I go to sleep,I like to have > it on a sleep timer and when I stir in the middle of the night, i > like to listen again with a sleep timer. > > Can I do this with my mac to listen to my podcasts? > > I see the mac normally goes to sleep, when inactive, not just for a > specified time. > > But I would like it to play itunes for 30 min, go to sleep, keep > it's place in the playlist or podcast, and by touching a key, or > space bar, do it all again. This time, with URL: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ipod_itunes/itunesshut.html SR From kc9aae at bresnan.net Sun May 20 22:56:56 2007 From: kc9aae at bresnan.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Sun May 20 22:57:03 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Compatible chess game Message-ID: <24B50785-82A2-4DC3-8975-7CF7328F02F5@bresnan.net> I'm looking for a chess game that will work with both os x and linux. My son and I would like to play on our private home network. Idea's anyone? Dana - KC9AAE From wilann at telusplanet.net Sun May 20 23:48:08 2007 From: wilann at telusplanet.net (W Lane) Date: Sun May 20 23:48:26 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Compatible chess game In-Reply-To: <24B50785-82A2-4DC3-8975-7CF7328F02F5@bresnan.net> References: <24B50785-82A2-4DC3-8975-7CF7328F02F5@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <4630D8BA-9CF4-4509-864A-AE1BEDD1B761@telusplanet.net> On 07-May-20, at 23:56: 56, Dana J. Laude wrote: > I'm looking for a chess game that will work with both os x and > linux. My son and I would like > to play on our private home network. Idea's anyone? Um, without seeming rude, if you're wanting to play 'on our private home network', buy a chess board perhaps? I mean really, much as I love the Mac and all, there are many times where it is time to 'step away from the computer'. This, I think, would be one of them. -- William Lane Calgary, Canada via Mac OSX - Mail From randy at macattorney.com Mon May 21 00:03:53 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Mon May 21 00:04:12 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Compatible chess game In-Reply-To: <24B50785-82A2-4DC3-8975-7CF7328F02F5@bresnan.net> References: <24B50785-82A2-4DC3-8975-7CF7328F02F5@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <56744C88-4F51-4C66-81BD-718D8DE22BAA@macattorney.com> On May 20, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Dana J. Laude wrote: > I'm looking for a chess game that will work with both os x and > linux. My son and I would like > to play on our private home network. Idea's anyone? It might be easiest to use a screen sharing utility. That way you can go with the chess game that you like best, and you can still share it. There is a client for both Linux and the Macintosh for VNC http://www.softpanorama.org/Xwindows/VNC/vnc_on_linux.shtml#Vino Or...you could go with an networked online chess game: http://www.chessclub.com/ ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From kc9aae at bresnan.net Mon May 21 18:49:43 2007 From: kc9aae at bresnan.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Mon May 21 18:49:54 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Compatible chess game In-Reply-To: <4630D8BA-9CF4-4509-864A-AE1BEDD1B761@telusplanet.net> References: <24B50785-82A2-4DC3-8975-7CF7328F02F5@bresnan.net> <4630D8BA-9CF4-4509-864A-AE1BEDD1B761@telusplanet.net> Message-ID: <8593A167-41FA-439D-A955-0AA723892A33@bresnan.net> On May 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, W Lane wrote: > > Um, without seeming rude, if you're wanting to play 'on our private > home network', buy a chess board perhaps? I mean really, much as I > love the Mac and all, there are many times where it is time to > 'step away from the computer'. This, I think, would be one of them. Actually, no offense taken. ;) I actually asked him about the board, but since we're moving shortly we blew it off for now. Besides, I'll be building my own after we get settled in the new place. Regards, Dana From kc9aae at bresnan.net Mon May 21 18:52:50 2007 From: kc9aae at bresnan.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Mon May 21 18:52:53 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Compatible chess game In-Reply-To: <56744C88-4F51-4C66-81BD-718D8DE22BAA@macattorney.com> References: <24B50785-82A2-4DC3-8975-7CF7328F02F5@bresnan.net> <56744C88-4F51-4C66-81BD-718D8DE22BAA@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <64C0FAED-0E7D-4C74-9D20-94979328967A@bresnan.net> On May 21, 2007, at 1:03 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > It might be easiest to use a screen sharing utility. That way you > can go with the chess game that you like best, and you can still > share it. > There is a client for both Linux and the Macintosh for VNC > http://www.softpanorama.org/Xwindows/VNC/vnc_on_linux.shtml#Vino > > Or...you could go with an networked online chess game: > http://www.chessclub.com/ Thanks for the tips Randy. Will look into this. I've done Linux to Windows VNC before, and didn't even give it a thought for this application. Good suggestion! Dana From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Mon May 21 21:12:44 2007 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au) Date: Mon May 21 21:12:55 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Compatible chess game Message-ID: <9115553.1179807164735.JavaMail.root@web05ps> ---- W Lane wrote: > Um, without seeming rude, if you're wanting to play 'on our private > home network', buy a chess board perhaps? I mean really, much as I > love the Mac and all, there are many times where it is time to 'step > away from the computer'. This, I think, would be one of them. William, Maybe sometimes the board is a preferable option, but many times it is not. Digital versions (computer or PlayStation etc) of old fashioned board games are often superior to the board version for various reasons (and I have 5 sons and so quite a bit of experience with these things) (1)Easier to set up, no lost pieces. (2)If online, can mean playing games and interacting even when physically separated by great distance. (3) Rules are applied correctly and fairly. It is difficult for cheating to occur by selectively applying rules or inventing non standard rules as the game itself applies the rules without prejudice, so there are less arguments. (4) Gameplay can be vastly better. Monopoly on Playstation for example is so much better than the old board game it is amazing. (5) Graphics on a screen mean kids who would not wish to play on a dull old board will happily interact with one another by playing the same (but digital) game. (6)More options are possible than just face to face contact (although my boys get very excited and noisy when playing the digital games face to face) Options such as being able to interact with one another via a game even when in separate (but networked) personal spaces. On the other hand there is nothing more beautiful than playing any game in an analog version with a gorgeous woman in front of a fire in winter with Mozart and a good wine... :-) Tony Johansen http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art From chasm at mac.com Wed May 23 16:12:37 2007 From: chasm at mac.com (Charles Martin) Date: Wed May 23 16:13:01 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Questions re: Classic, Applications folder, firewall, faxing In-Reply-To: <20070521070420.24749D7C698@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070521070420.24749D7C698@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <9E415B8D-1B11-466B-844E-55E53B7A3754@mac.com> > From: David Brostoff > At 1:59 AM -0400 on 5/17/07, Charles Martin wrote: > >> HOWEVER, be sure that NOTHING but apps is in the Applications >> folder. Very important. > > Could you elaborate? I see lots of application-installed Read Me and > other files in Applications (Third-Party). Sorry, I should have been clearer. Application-installed files are fine. What I meant was that you should not PUT things in the Application Folder that don't belong there, and more importantly you should not REMOVE application files that SHOULD be there. Plays havoc with the directory. Chas From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 23 17:36:15 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 23 17:36:30 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Re: Questions re: Classic, Applications folder, firewall, faxing In-Reply-To: <9E415B8D-1B11-466B-844E-55E53B7A3754@mac.com> References: <20070521070420.24749D7C698@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <9E415B8D-1B11-466B-844E-55E53B7A3754@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 23, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Charles Martin wrote: > Application-installed files are fine. What I meant was that you > should not PUT things in the Application Folder that don't belong > there, Maybe you know something that I don't. What sorts of things, exactly, is it a bad idea to put in the Application Folder? And what exactly will it hurt to do so? (Aside from system software, which shouldn't be moved in any case. And components of applications, which need to be with the associated application, or things like preferences, which need to be in the Preferences folder.) > and more importantly you should not REMOVE application files that > SHOULD be there. > > Plays havoc with the directory. I find this even more intriguing. Which applications, exactly, will cause problems if you move them out of the Applications folder? And what "havoc" exactly, will it cause with the directory? (Aside from not being able to utilize services, and Apple-installed software not getting updated, I'm not sure what you are getting at.) I'm really interested if there is more to this than that. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Wed May 30 11:19:59 2007 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Wed May 30 11:20:08 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Apple OS X support for mobile phones. Message-ID: <2552fa090705301119w3b35c08r403e88b5770f2a6e@mail.gmail.com> It is about time for me to get a new mobile phone, I have been noting with some concern that Apple's support for new phone models seems to be going the same direction as modem support took in OS 8 & 9. More and more models with new features arrive on the market, without support in the OS. I have noticed that many users are forced to try solutions like "The Missing Sync...". Any suggestions? I am living in Europe, so I'm not tied in the same way that many US residents are as to what phones are available from which provider, etc. At this time, I am using a Sony Ericsson P800. Cheers, Brian From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Wed May 30 19:36:07 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Wed May 30 19:36:14 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Apple OS X support for mobile phones. In-Reply-To: <2552fa090705301119w3b35c08r403e88b5770f2a6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <242447.32369.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Brain Buy a iPhone in late June and be the first on your block - but not the last! The resulting bonus is a complete and utter solution to your current issues and for the next 10 years or so! Sounds like a win-win to me... That's what I'm going to do - besides it's going to be a really great ice breaker during cold calls! Rich therepguy Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Brian Durant wrote: > It is about time for me to get a new mobile phone, I > have been noting > with some concern that Apple's support for new phone > models seems to > be going the same direction as modem support took in > OS 8 & 9. More > and more models with new features arrive on the > market, without > support in the OS. I have noticed that many users > are forced to try > solutions like "The Missing Sync...". Any > suggestions? I am living in > Europe, so I'm not tied in the same way that many US > residents are as > to what phones are available from which provider, > etc. At this time, I > am using a Sony Ericsson P800. > > Cheers, > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Wed May 30 22:19:37 2007 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Wed May 30 22:19:50 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Apple OS X support for mobile phones. In-Reply-To: <242447.32369.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2552fa090705301119w3b35c08r403e88b5770f2a6e@mail.gmail.com> <242447.32369.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2552fa090705302219w13ea8434hd11dc421190fdc72@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rich, Yeah, in some ways I hear what you are saying. However: 1) The iPhone doesn't come to Europe until some undetermined time in the future. 2) The iPhone will lack a number pad.(keypad) 3) The iPhone won't support 3G or turbo 3G 4) If I remember correctly, the iPhone will only be triband, not quadband as is becoming standard in Europe. 5) Battery use issues will likely be a problem. Regardless of whether the iPhone becomes as iconic as the iPod, which I don't believe will be the case, I find it to be a major concern that Apple doesn't seem to have deemed it necessary to support any mobile phones that have appeared on the market within the last two years. Cheers, Brian On 5/31/07, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Brain > > Buy a iPhone in late June and be the first on your > block - but not the last! > > The resulting bonus is a complete and utter solution > to your current issues and for the next 10 years or > so! > > Sounds like a win-win to me... > > That's what I'm going to do - besides it's going to be > a really great ice breaker during cold calls! > > Rich therepguy > Houston > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > --- Brian Durant wrote: > > > It is about time for me to get a new mobile phone, I > > have been noting > > with some concern that Apple's support for new phone > > models seems to > > be going the same direction as modem support took in > > OS 8 & 9. More > > and more models with new features arrive on the > > market, without > > support in the OS. I have noticed that many users > > are forced to try > > solutions like "The Missing Sync...". Any > > suggestions? I am living in > > Europe, so I'm not tied in the same way that many US > > residents are as > > to what phones are available from which provider, > > etc. At this time, I > > am using a Sony Ericsson P800. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Brian From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Thu May 31 06:42:16 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Thu May 31 06:42:25 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Apple OS X support for mobile phones. In-Reply-To: <2552fa090705302219w13ea8434hd11dc421190fdc72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <607462.4942.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Brain A replay if I may... You haven't been keeping up with the latest... 1. It hit Europe by the end of the year 2. It has a built in keypad, one that is a whole lot easier to use than a thumb-pad 3. The version just announced and due in Europe will be 3G based product because that is the standard in Europe 4. As to battery I can't replay to that but Apple has never let anyone down on any of it's designs to date, so why would they start now. By the way, one has to fully understand that Apple has not yet fully released all of the performance spec's & it's feature list because of would be copycats, i.e our friends at M$ - so until the product is out no one will fully know it's full value. I have personally delayed any new purchases of any type of cell phone within my company till the iPhone is released. And yes I am a stockholder of Apple and have been so sense the beginning of time or at lest Apple time. I do hope this will give you pause, As I would really hate to see you or anyone spend money now - only to be disappointed 6 months down the road! Later Rick therepguy Houston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Brian Durant wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Yeah, in some ways I hear what you are saying. > However: > > 1) The iPhone doesn't come to Europe until some > undetermined time in the future. > 2) The iPhone will lack a number pad.(keypad) > 3) The iPhone won't support 3G or turbo 3G > 4) If I remember correctly, the iPhone will only be > triband, not > quadband as is becoming standard in Europe. > 5) Battery use issues will likely be a problem. > > Regardless of whether the iPhone becomes as iconic > as the iPod, which > I don't believe will be the case, I find it to be a > major concern that > Apple doesn't seem to have deemed it necessary to > support any mobile > phones that have appeared on the market within the > last two years. > > Cheers, > > Brian > > On 5/31/07, Richard Ramsowr > wrote: > > Brain > > > > Buy a iPhone in late June and be the first on your > > block - but not the last! > > > > The resulting bonus is a complete and utter > solution > > to your current issues and for the next 10 years > or > > so! > > > > Sounds like a win-win to me... > > > > That's what I'm going to do - besides it's going > to be > > a really great ice breaker during cold calls! > > > > Rich therepguy > > Houston > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > --- Brian Durant wrote: > > > > > It is about time for me to get a new mobile > phone, I > > > have been noting > > > with some concern that Apple's support for new > phone > > > models seems to > > > be going the same direction as modem support > took in > > > OS 8 & 9. More > > > and more models with new features arrive on the > > > market, without > > > support in the OS. I have noticed that many > users > > > are forced to try > > > solutions like "The Missing Sync...". Any > > > suggestions? I am living in > > > Europe, so I'm not tied in the same way that > many US > > > residents are as > > > to what phones are available from which > provider, > > > etc. At this time, I > > > am using a Sony Ericsson P800. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Thu May 31 10:58:45 2007 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Thu May 31 10:58:57 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Apple OS X support for mobile phones. In-Reply-To: <607462.4942.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2552fa090705302219w13ea8434hd11dc421190fdc72@mail.gmail.com> <607462.4942.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2552fa090705311058scb49a49xd9654bf093fdfae7@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rick, I just checked today with the all dominating Apple dealer and distributer here in Denmark: They could not provide me with any information, as they don't yet know if the iPhone will come to Denmark. There as of this time has not been any contract signed between Apple and a Danish mobile telephone company. If the iPhone is being distributed by a company such as Vodophone, it will never reach Denmark, as they are not represented in the Danish telephone market. Regardless of whether the iPhone will reach Denmark eventually, is still not really my point. While I can hope that the iPhone arrives with the specs that you mention, it is for me and many other Mac users frustrating that Apple doesn't try to support more mobile phones through it's iSync technology. If you look at it is possible to see that a number of newer Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung, etc. phones are not listed and many of those that are listed are hobbled by not being able to sync Address Book, Address Book Pictures, Calendar and/or To Do Items. This should be an absolute minimum as most of these mobiles are provided with various program "suites" that can provide much more functionality, including the above, but only with a Windows PC. Cheers, Brian On 5/31/07, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Brain > > A replay if I may... > > You haven't been keeping up with the latest... > > 1. It hit Europe by the end of the year > > 2. It has a built in keypad, one that is a whole lot > easier to use than a thumb-pad > > 3. The version just announced and due in Europe will > be 3G based product because that is the standard in > Europe > > 4. As to battery I can't replay to that but Apple has > never let anyone down on any of it's designs to date, > so why would they start now. > > By the way, one has to fully understand that Apple has > not yet fully released all of the performance spec's & > it's feature list because of would be copycats, i.e > our friends at M$ - so until the product is out no one > will fully know it's full value. I have personally > delayed any new purchases of any type of cell phone > within my company till the iPhone is released. And yes > I am a stockholder of Apple and have been so sense the > beginning of time or at lest Apple time. > > I do hope this will give you pause, As I would really > hate to see you or anyone spend money now - only to be > disappointed 6 months down the road! > > Later > > Rick therepguy > Houston > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > --- Brian Durant wrote: > > > Hi Rich, > > > > Yeah, in some ways I hear what you are saying. > > However: > > > > 1) The iPhone doesn't come to Europe until some > > undetermined time in the future. > > 2) The iPhone will lack a number pad.(keypad) > > 3) The iPhone won't support 3G or turbo 3G > > 4) If I remember correctly, the iPhone will only be > > triband, not > > quadband as is becoming standard in Europe. > > 5) Battery use issues will likely be a problem. > > > > Regardless of whether the iPhone becomes as iconic > > as the iPod, which > > I don't believe will be the case, I find it to be a > > major concern that > > Apple doesn't seem to have deemed it necessary to > > support any mobile > > phones that have appeared on the market within the > > last two years. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Brian > > > > On 5/31/07, Richard Ramsowr > > wrote: > > > Brain > > > > > > Buy a iPhone in late June and be the first on your > > > block - but not the last! > > > > > > The resulting bonus is a complete and utter > > solution > > > to your current issues and for the next 10 years > > or > > > so! > > > > > > Sounds like a win-win to me... > > > > > > That's what I'm going to do - besides it's going > > to be > > > a really great ice breaker during cold calls! > > > > > > Rich therepguy > > > Houston > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > --- Brian Durant wrote: > > > > > > > It is about time for me to get a new mobile > > phone, I > > > > have been noting > > > > with some concern that Apple's support for new > > phone > > > > models seems to > > > > be going the same direction as modem support > > took in > > > > OS 8 & 9. More > > > > and more models with new features arrive on the > > > > market, without > > > > support in the OS. I have noticed that many > > users > > > > are forced to try > > > > solutions like "The Missing Sync...". Any > > > > suggestions? I am living in > > > > Europe, so I'm not tied in the same way that > > many US > > > > residents are as > > > > to what phones are available from which > > provider, > > > > etc. At this time, I > > > > am using a Sony Ericsson P800. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > > X-Newbies mailing list > > X-Newbies@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Thu May 31 13:39:03 2007 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au) Date: Thu May 31 13:39:14 2007 Subject: [X-Newbies] Apple OS X support for mobile phones. Message-ID: <23085433.1180643943518.JavaMail.root@web03ps> > > > > --- Brian Durant wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is about time for me to get a new mobile > > > phone, I > > > > > have been noting > > > > > with some concern that Apple's support for new > > > phone > > > > > models seems to > > > > > be going the same direction as modem support > > > took in > > > > > OS 8 & 9. More > > > > > and more models with new features arrive on the > > > > > market, without > > > > > support in the OS. I have noticed that many > > > users > > > > > are forced to try > > > > > solutions like "The Missing Sync...". Any > > > > > suggestions? I am living in > > > > > Europe, so I'm not tied in the same way that > > > many US > > > > > residents are as > > > > > to what phones are available from which > > > provider, > > > > > etc. At this time, I > > > > > am using a Sony Ericsson P800. I also lament a lack of serious consideration of each other by both Apple and mobile phone manufacturers. I have a Sony Ericsson K800i, a beautiful 3G phone. It works better on a Mac for photos and loading files onto it as if an external Hard Drive. When the USB is connected the drives of both phone and memory stick appear on the desktop and iPhoto automatically opens and imports photos. But any kind of music from a macintosh, even ordinary MP3 files seem to give problems on the phone (specifically they will play in single song mode only (no shuffle works) So all music I do via a PC. The phone works better on the Mac than it's predecessor (K750i) because SE made the phone more recognizable as a HD by any computer. Applause to SE. But Apple does not make syncing easy, so I transfer contacts by sending blue tooth V-cards. The calendar I import to Google Calendar then sync google and phone using goosync. One extra step, but it does work really well. iPhone is not the answer for many people. I am an artist. The most important feature for me is the camera. Apple iPhone has a lousy camera (small mega pixels and no lens cover). We are yet to see the rest of the specs for the camera, but those 2 alone would prevent me buying it. A pity. I use a camera for blogging as well as general photography. The K800i is good enough to replace my more expensive standalone camera. I shoot 50 or so photos a day, so it is a big deal. The K800i does e-mail great too. The T9 text input is nearly as good as a f