From ep at listserver.themacintoshguy.com Sun May 1 10:43:00 2005 From: ep at listserver.themacintoshguy.com (Eric Prentice) Date: Sun May 1 11:09:56 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Dashboard, Automator & X4U Lists Message-ID: <7305E1CE-7129-43E6-831F-BE9BCCCB8E9F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Hello all listers. I wanted to let you know about 2 new email lists hosted at TheMacintoshGuy.com, one for Automator and the other for Dashboard. Both lists are intended for regular end user type discussion. Heavy development type questions should be relegated to some of the other development based lists that have been created such as Apple's Dashboard-dev list. We would also like to welcome Tiger users to all of our Mac OS X based lists: X Users X Newbies X Servers X Software X Hardware X Unix X Dreams Eric Listmom From bob at bergey.net Sun May 1 14:58:44 2005 From: bob at bergey.net (Bob Bergey) Date: Sun May 1 14:59:23 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve Initial Config Problems Message-ID: I'm an Xserve newbie ... just got my new Xserve G5, OS X 10.3.7 installed. I'm trying to configure it from my PowerBook using Server Assistant, but it doesn't show up in the dialog for configuring it remotely. I'm connected on the same network it is, with a Linksys router, plus I've tried connecting it directly to just the PowerBook. But it's not showing up. Also, after going though it's intial startup, the blue activity lights all remain lit all the time, even without it connected to anything. Does that indicate a problem before I even connect? I guess next step will be to connect a monitor and keyboard to the Xserve; I ordered it with a video card just in case, but was hoping not to use it. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Bob -- ====================================================================== Bob Bergey -- 215-527-1048 -- Perkasie, PA Internet Services for the Printing Industry Web Hosting & E-Mail Services: BERGEY.NET ====================================================================== From mbartosh at mac.com Sun May 1 15:53:41 2005 From: mbartosh at mac.com (Michael Bartosh) Date: Sun May 1 15:53:45 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve Initial Config Problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71E9FE28-42A9-47AE-A5C8-669C6C56E00A@mac.com> You might not have ServerSetup.pkg installed on the machine where you installed the Admin tools. This provides sa_srchr, the underlying utility used to query the 224.0.0.1 multicast address. -mab From dave at just4.com Wed May 11 12:49:00 2005 From: dave at just4.com (Dave Higgins) Date: Wed May 11 12:49:24 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Testing... Message-ID: <05A1863F-B335-4F25-86E8-37A7C2E8D3C6@just4.com> < tap tap tap > Hello??? Is this thing on??? I signed up a couple weeks ago and still haven't seen anything come through yet. Just want to make sure I'm really signed up. Dave. From alex at flagshipinteractive.com Wed May 11 12:54:57 2005 From: alex at flagshipinteractive.com (Alex Pilson) Date: Wed May 11 12:55:03 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Testing... In-Reply-To: <05A1863F-B335-4F25-86E8-37A7C2E8D3C6@just4.com> References: <05A1863F-B335-4F25-86E8-37A7C2E8D3C6@just4.com> Message-ID: At 2:49 PM -0500 5/11/05, Dave Higgins wrote: >< tap tap tap > Hello??? Is this thing on??? > >I signed up a couple weeks ago and still haven't seen anything come >through yet. Just want to make sure I'm really signed up. It is a pretty dead list. I wish there was more activity myself. -- <---------------------------------------------------------------> Alex Pilson FlagShip Interactive, Inc. alex@flagshipinteractive.com <---------------------------------------------------------------> From dave at just4.com Wed May 11 13:11:31 2005 From: dave at just4.com (Dave Higgins) Date: Wed May 11 13:11:37 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Testing... In-Reply-To: References: <05A1863F-B335-4F25-86E8-37A7C2E8D3C6@just4.com> Message-ID: <60B8CC59-01BC-4080-8E3D-91E37F159CD2@just4.com> On May 11, 2005, at 2:54 PM, Alex Pilson wrote: > It is a pretty dead list. I wish there was more activity myself. Ok. Well, I got your message and mine back, so at least I can see that I'm getting them. Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-servers/attachments/20050511/981882eb/attachment.html From mbenson at siscontec.com Wed May 11 13:59:14 2005 From: mbenson at siscontec.com (Michael L. Benson) Date: Wed May 11 13:59:17 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Testing... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Then you should sign up on a windows server 2003 list to see all the problems, We just set up the xservers and after the configuration it is just adding users. Don't give many problems. I have been on the list from the start and expect to see some activity with 10.4 server SW Cheers MB On 5/11/05 3:54 PM, "Alex Pilson" wrote: > At 2:49 PM -0500 5/11/05, Dave Higgins wrote: >> < tap tap tap > Hello??? Is this thing on??? >> >> I signed up a couple weeks ago and still haven't seen anything come >> through yet. Just want to make sure I'm really signed up. > > It is a pretty dead list. I wish there was more activity myself. From bob at bergey.net Thu May 12 08:24:25 2005 From: bob at bergey.net (Bob Bergey) Date: Thu May 12 08:24:42 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve Initial Config Problems -- Solution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:58 PM -0400 on 5/1/05, Bob Bergey wrote: > I'm an Xserve newbie ... just got my new Xserve G5, OS X 10.3.7 > installed. I'm trying to configure it from my PowerBook using > Server Assistant, but it doesn't show up in the dialog for > configuring it remotely. I'm connected on the same network it is, > with a Linksys router, plus I've tried connecting it directly to > just the PowerBook. But it's not showing up. Also, after going > though it's intial startup, the blue activity lights all remain lit > all the time, even without it connected to anything. Does that > indicate a problem before I even connect? Problem solved ... There are two Ethernet ports in the back of the Xserve, and I was using the top one ... I switched to the bottom one at a suggestion from someone on the Apple forums, and that solved my problem! Even the activity lights suddenly behaved normally. Such a simple thing, but I don't remember reading that anywhere in the manual; if it's there, I overlooked it. Bob From stans at sigma4.com Thu May 12 11:08:18 2005 From: stans at sigma4.com (S. F. Sobczynski) Date: Thu May 12 11:08:24 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] 10.3.9 Server - DHCP and Static IP Addressing Message-ID: Hi All, We have a Netopia R5300 T1 router, with a block of .1-.31 static assigned internet IPs. Minus 1 address for the router, it is set to pass the others through untouched. We previously had the router handling NAT and DHCP but had one of our DHCP Windows clients catch a Worm and do a broadcast directly through the router. Two things: 1. I would like the rest of the static IPs to pass through our XServe for improved firewall, monitoring, etc. but to still be accessible to/from the internet. 2. I am also trying to set up a block of 192.168.0.x addresses to be DHCPed through the XServer, predominately for the Windows users. I have succeeded in getting AFP, DNS, Firewall and VPN activated but am having trouble setting up DHCP or the static addresses (other than the IP for the XServe itself). No luck at all with setting up the static IPs (using NAT?) and only partial luck setting up the DHCP addresses. If I manually set addresses from the DHCP address block on the client computers everything works fine. But if I set it up for dynamic assignment the addresses do not get passed down to the client machines and they are unable to connect. I have looked through all the docs, looked through the discussion boards and posted to the Apple Discussion list but have been unable to find any info to solve these two items. Anyone have any ideas or direction to materials covering this? TIA, Stan stans@sigma4.com -- ===================================================================== >>>>>>>>>>>>> Developing the future...bit by bit! <<<<<<<<<<< Stan Sobczynski Email: mailto:stans@sigma4.com Sigma 4, Inc. Web: http://www.sigma4.com 1155 S. Telshor, Suite 201 Tel: (505) 532-5768 Las Cruces, NM 88011 Fax: (505) 532-5769 ===================================================================== From oem at mac.com Thu May 12 18:10:13 2005 From: oem at mac.com (oemx) Date: Thu May 12 18:10:22 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] 10.3.9 Server - DHCP and Static IP Addressing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Hi All, > > We have a Netopia R5300 T1 router, with a block of .1-.31 static > assigned internet IPs. Minus 1 address for the router, it is set to > pass the others through untouched. We previously had the router > handling NAT and DHCP but had one of our DHCP Windows clients catch > a Worm and do a broadcast directly through the router. Enjoy W$ :-) > Two things: > 1. I would like the rest of the static IPs to pass through our > XServe for improved firewall, monitoring, etc. but to still be > accessible to/from the internet. Do you mean : your client in one side of the Xserve (LAN Side) and internet in the second ethernet NIC of your Xserve. (WANSide) And if so, you want your clients to be able to brwose internet, mail, etc? and eventually be accessible FROM WAN. > 2. I am also trying to set up a block of 192.168.0.x addresses to > be DHCPed through the XServer, predominately for the Windows users. > > I have succeeded in getting AFP, DNS, Firewall and VPN activated > but am having trouble setting up DHCP or the static addresses > (other than the IP for the XServe itself). > No luck at all with setting up the static IPs (using NAT?) What do you really consider as static IP, static or DHCP withStaticIP. ?? Anyway-> see further the mail? > > I have looked through all the docs, looked through the discussion > boards and posted to the Apple Discussion list but have been unable > to find any info to solve these two items. Anyone have any ideas or > direction to materials covering this? You need to do and check many things: 1st) you've done it : DNS setup. 2sd) for your DHCP things, you need > and only partial luck setting up the DHCP addresses. If I manually > set addresses from the DHCP address block on the client computers > everything works fine. But if I set it up for dynamic assignment > the addresses do not get passed down to the client machines and > they are unable to connect. a- in Workgroup Manager : go to Computer list and be sure to get all your computers listed in at least one list. - for the macs it's easy :-) just click Browse and pick up your client in the list. Or if you've got the host name and MACAdress just click on the + button and type in your datas. (I, personnaly, name the computer with its host name : computer.domain.com) - for Windows Clients, arrrrggg, I don't remember where on windows you set this up but you need to enter the computer name in the windows list ( for exemple : WINMACHINE) on the Xserve. Go on the W$ and in ctrl-click->properties, you can set the WORKGROUP or domain (depends on your Server admin setup), and the computer name. b-in SystemePreferences/network - Be Sure to put your WAN interface in top of the list and your LAN just after. - You'll need to enable NAT, and I've read, and successfully tested, that you SHOULD LEAVE EMPTY the GATEWAY address on the LAN settings. you also have to enter your Server IP in the DNS field (presuming it is providing DNS to your LAN). c- in ServerAdmin NAT : some say you should ONLY activate the service and NOT click on the popupmenu. In facts it depends on your en0 and en1. (to know which is what, just launch NetworkUtility) if your LAN is en0 and WAN en1, then you should select share en1. you can check this in /etc/nat/natd.plist (eventually you'll have to alter also the natd.plist.default - BACKUP it BEFORE !!!) d- Server Admin DHCP -VPN just be sure to NOT have the same 'range' for DHCP and VPN. exemple: DHCP : 192.168.1.40->192.168.1.80 VPN : 192.168.1.140->192.168.1.180 enter your Server IP in DNS field. e- acces from the outside : You'll have to play with the firewal here, and second you'll have also to play with your Router, so WAN can get access, but you should VPN, at this stage and then connect to the server. f- hope it helps h- I have suffer (knowing only Mac -since AppleIIe) when I HAD to setup a W$ in my network? really suffered. :-) oemx From ellis at champlaincollege.qc.ca Wed May 25 11:28:16 2005 From: ellis at champlaincollege.qc.ca (Patrick Ellis) Date: Wed May 25 11:28:38 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Dual G5 Tower as a 10.4 Server? In-Reply-To: <20040914230548.CFA849D3CA@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20040914230548.CFA849D3CA@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <7B73220A-E36D-45A0-ABA3-C5079264ECB0@champlaincollege.qc.ca> Good afternoon all, First off, will a new PowerMac G5 tower running the new Tiger Server software. I would assume yes since it is running Tiger client but I want to make absolutely sure (the decision making people above me always require assurances from elsewhere!) Now, I work for a small college in the Montreal (Quebec) area and I finally have a wee bit of money to replace an old PowerMac G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) machine that has been serving one of my labs. Originally I looked at the XServe but have found it to be rather expensive for what you get and wonder what the advantages are to the XServe are over a G5 tower running the same server software. The services run in this lab presently include client/mobile client authentication and workgroup management. I may use it as well - from time ti time - for basic/limited QuickTime streaming (essentially, our present and immediate future needs are not overwhelming). Our DHCP and DNS services are handled strictly by a Windows server elsewhere and the likelihood of us using XSan, XServe raid, clusters etc... is little to none. Comparing the two, I can go with: XServe 2.0GHz (single processor) 1GB RAM 80GB Hard drive (x2) Combo drive dual gigabit ethernet no video card Tiger Server (unlimited client) or, for roughly the same price PowerMac G5 (dual 2.0GHz) 1.5GB RAM 250GB Hard drive (x2) 16X SuperDrive dual gigabit ethernet (Sonnett PCI card already on campus) Radeon 9600 (128MB) video card Tiger Server (unlimited client) There are a number of options that I can tinker with (i.e. 2.5GB memory and 2x160GB hard drives etc...) Space and physical security is not an issue for us. Based on our (seemingly) smaller that typical needs and the specs above I would think that the Tower/separately bought Server software is a more logical approach but would appreciate any input. Sorry for the long post. TIA, Patrick Ellis Tracking #: 5D7548ED081A49458C59A6EEC6CCFB156B0B643C From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Wed May 25 11:56:08 2005 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Wed May 25 11:58:28 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Dual G5 Tower as a 10.4 Server? In-Reply-To: <7B73220A-E36D-45A0-ABA3-C5079264ECB0@champlaincollege.qc.ca> Message-ID: Thus spake Patrick Ellis : > First off, will a new PowerMac G5 tower running the new Tiger > Server software. Yes indeed! Or I should qualify that a bit and say I don't see why not, since all previous versions of OS X Server ran on any Mac that would run the client. I don't have Tiger Server yet, but my first copy of OS X Server (10.1, I believe) ran on a stock G4 tower, and I have a copy of Panther server running on a dual G4 tower. > Now, I work for a small college in the Montreal (Quebec) area and > I finally have a wee bit of money to replace an old PowerMac G4 > (Gigabit Ethernet) machine that has been serving one of my labs. > Originally I looked at the XServe but have found it to be rather > expensive for what you get and wonder what the advantages are > to the XServe are over a G5 tower running the same server software. I was just in your lovely town a couple of weeks ago. Too bad we didn't meet -- I could have talked to you about your server and then written the trip off on my taxes! :-> The basic advantages of the Xserve are compact size/rack mount capabilities and remote sensing. You can do remote management with the G5 tower, but with the Xserve, you can remotely monitor the temperature, state of the fans, power supply, etc. > Space and physical security is not an issue for us. Based on our > (seemingly) smaller that typical needs and the specs above I would > think that the Tower/separately bought Server software is a more > logical approach but would appreciate any input. I agree with you -- if the budget is tight, I would rather get the extra CPU and RAM than spend the money on the Xserve's 1U enclosure. The G5 is also easier to expand, so you can add more RAM or Fiber Channel cards later. peter