From kansast at mac.com Wed Nov 2 14:08:01 2005 From: kansast at mac.com (Kansas Territory) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:08:05 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve and DNS - Web admin question Message-ID: <3075E982-7C04-46D6-B7BB-1F87A29F2BF2@mac.com> I don't currently have an xserve and I'm not running OSX server. But I've been asked to find out some information regarding running an Xserve as a DNS server. specifically.. I've also been asked... if it allows for Customers to have access (some web based admin) where they can edit their own DNS records. Which to me sounds weird.. for what reason does "joe blow" customer need to change a DNS record if I'm already hosting the domain ? now personally I could understand wanting some kind of web based admin for customers to be able to change their email setup.. like being able to add new email addresses for their domain and the like, or change where their emails are routed to, that kind of thing. Does OSX Server offer anything like this ? Any info would be appreciated. kansast From mbarr at mbarr.net Thu Nov 3 23:50:17 2005 From: mbarr at mbarr.net (Matthew Barr) Date: Thu Nov 3 23:50:25 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve & RAID... Message-ID: <8108C167-1A04-443B-943A-44CCBA244F4A@mbarr.net> We're looking into getting our first Xserve, and I want to make sure to have RAID 1 or 5 for the drives, but wasn't sure if the normal Xserve can be configured in OS X Server to use the the drive bays as RAID 1 or 5 without the hardware RAID card. Any one know? Oddly enough, we've never had OS X Server around, just a lot of clients, and linux servers... I'm looking forward to having one, but without it here and now.. it's tough to know. Matthew Matthew Barr Managing Partner Datalyte Consulting, LLC mailto:mbarr@datalyte.com cell: (646) 765-6878 From davewalker1 at mac.com Fri Nov 4 02:47:01 2005 From: davewalker1 at mac.com (Dave Walker) Date: Fri Nov 4 02:47:14 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve & RAID... In-Reply-To: <8108C167-1A04-443B-943A-44CCBA244F4A@mbarr.net> References: <8108C167-1A04-443B-943A-44CCBA244F4A@mbarr.net> Message-ID: <5F734E6C-D697-43D1-BA2D-A173DD42D36A@mac.com> Hi Matthew The short answer is yes and no - you can do RAID 1 without the card, and with built in software, but it is a bit slow RAID 5 you will need the hardware card - (recommended - I use it and it is very quick). SoftRAID would work OK for a set of external drives, but I don't think you can use it as a bootable drive, hence no use for Xserve on its own Hope this helps Dave On 4 Nov 2005, at 07:50, Matthew Barr wrote: > We're looking into getting our first Xserve, and I want to make > sure to have RAID 1 or 5 for the drives, but wasn't sure if the > normal Xserve can be configured in OS X Server to use the the > drive bays as RAID 1 or 5 without the hardware RAID card. > > Any one know? Oddly enough, we've never had OS X Server around, > just a lot of clients, and linux servers... I'm looking forward to > having one, but without it here and now.. it's tough to know. > > Matthew > > Matthew Barr > Managing Partner > Datalyte Consulting, LLC > mailto:mbarr@datalyte.com > cell: (646) 765-6878 > > > > _______________________________________________ > X-Servers mailing list > X-Servers@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-servers > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From brent at landover.com Fri Nov 4 09:38:17 2005 From: brent at landover.com (Brent Baisley) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:38:02 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve & RAID... In-Reply-To: <5F734E6C-D697-43D1-BA2D-A173DD42D36A@mac.com> References: <8108C167-1A04-443B-943A-44CCBA244F4A@mbarr.net> <5F734E6C-D697-43D1-BA2D-A173DD42D36A@mac.com> Message-ID: <45DA3442-7457-4025-84B6-FE76569DD175@landover.com> Actually SoftRAID (the product) can be used on a boot drive now. I actually just bought the latest copy after using it all the time under OS9. The OS X built in software RAID has severe limitations in rebuilding boot drives. I recently had a mirrored boot drive fail on an XServe. I got a new drive, popped it in and went to rebuild the mirror. That's when I found out the Apple's software RAID won't rebuild a mirrored drive for a boot volume, you need to boot off of something else. I also found out that you really need to use the command line to try to rebuild drives if you want to really know what's going on and get feedback on errors. Not a big deal, but something to know. I found it very annoying that I had to schedule downtime to rebuild the mirror. SoftRAID, on the other hand, can rebuild mirrored boot drives and it will report errors it notices during normal operation. It's a bit more robust than Apple's built-in software RAID. On Nov 4, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Dave Walker wrote: > Hi Matthew > > The short answer is yes and no - you can do RAID 1 without the > card, and with built in software, but it is a bit slow > RAID 5 you will need the hardware card - (recommended - I use it > and it is very quick). SoftRAID would work OK for a set of external > drives, but I don't think you can use it as a bootable drive, hence > no use for Xserve on its own > > Hope this helps > > > > Dave > > On 4 Nov 2005, at 07:50, Matthew Barr wrote: > > >> We're looking into getting our first Xserve, and I want to make >> sure to have RAID 1 or 5 for the drives, but wasn't sure if the >> normal Xserve can be configured in OS X Server to use the the >> drive bays as RAID 1 or 5 without the hardware RAID card. >> >> Any one know? Oddly enough, we've never had OS X Server around, >> just a lot of clients, and linux servers... I'm looking forward to >> having one, but without it here and now.. it's tough to know. >> >> Matthew >> >> Matthew Barr >> Managing Partner >> Datalyte Consulting, LLC >> mailto:mbarr@datalyte.com >> cell: (646) 765-6878 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X-Servers mailing list >> X-Servers@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-servers >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > > _______________________________________________ > X-Servers mailing list > X-Servers@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-servers > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > -- Brent Baisley Systems Architect Landover Associates, Inc. Search & Advisory Services for Advanced Technology Environments p: 212.759.6400/800.759.0577 From subscriber at gloaming.com Fri Nov 4 10:57:48 2005 From: subscriber at gloaming.com (James Bucanek) Date: Fri Nov 4 10:57:53 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve & RAID... In-Reply-To: <45DA3442-7457-4025-84B6-FE76569DD175@landover.com> Message-ID: Brent Baisley wrote on Friday, November 4, 2005: >SoftRAID, on the other hand, can rebuild mirrored boot drives and it >will report errors it notices during normal operation. It's a bit >more robust than Apple's built-in software RAID. Apple's build-in software *is* SoftRAID. As least it is as of Tiger. -- James Bucanek From blanc.cyril at wanadoo.fr Fri Nov 4 22:39:49 2005 From: blanc.cyril at wanadoo.fr (Cyril Blanc) Date: Fri Nov 4 22:39:53 2005 Subject: [X-Servers] Xserve & RAID... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Apple's build-in software *is* SoftRAID. As least it is as of Tiger. > > > > -- > James Bucanek > _______________________________________________ CC Mark James from Softraid Hi James, This is a great new. I own Softraid since version 1.0 and before I was told by Apple Care that "you must boot on the delivered HD" to have support, no support for Raid !! Does this mean that now you will have support from Apple Care if you have " SoftRaided" disks Best Cyril P.S. Mark, I missed this information, did you send a mail to your users ? ----------------------------------------------------------- My Mail is filtered by Personal Antispam. Join the Independent Quantum Leap Symphony orchestra forum (QLSO) for Mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso A6 Andromeda forum : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/A6_andromeda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x-servers/attachments/20051105/92ad2f90/attachment.html