G3 B&W, Mac OS X v10.2.8 A non-admin user is logged in and uses TextEdit. TextEdit gets stuck. Dock -> Force Quit: doesn't work -- TextEdit is still up. Cmd-opt-esc, Force Quit: doesn't work -- TextEdit is removed from the list, but it is still up. Terminal: Top reports 1 process stuck (presumable TextEdit). Not being in the sudoers file, the user can't invoke kill. I use login to log in as an admin user, and issue sudo kill -9 <TextEdit_pid> to no effect. I also try killall, but it doesn't work either. So, we're stuck. The user can't logout, because TextEdit being active cancels the logout. I tried shutdown, but that simply blocked the machine for some 10 minutes. Eventually, I lost my patience and did a cold reboot. Query: What else could I have done to get rid of the stuck process? Shouldn't kill -9 have nuked TextEdit, no ifs, ands, or buts? TIA, f