Hello, As most of you already know, you can use OS X in almost pure frambuffered console mode by doing a few nasty tweaks and typing >console as the username in the login prompt. This should dump you in pure text mode, no graphical window server whatsoever. However, my concern is the following. *** The Wrong: Apparently, OS X seems to initialize networking for, say, airport in my case, only when a graphical session is started. It seems that all adapters are brought up, but they don't seem to follow the profile currently applied. They just stand there, basically, in "unknown" state. Following this logic, they only seem to work when you are _logged in_ as well. I don't think networking is fully operational (at least in the case of 802.11b) until you have started a session. At least in my case. I understand why that would happen, since profiles and the airport manager seem to only apply inside your session since the airport applet is only launched then. *** The what: Well, I would like to know if there is a way to enable networking while in full text-mode-only-we-like-framebuffered-consoles mode. So far, ifconfig returns the interface (ne1), but it is in the state "unknown". *** The why: Don't ask why I want to do this ;) I just feel like it. It has to do with me being easily distracted when programming bash (I tend to do everything in perl, whenever I can. As for if that is a good or a bad habit... ;P), and a strange, utterly immoral fondness for text environnements. Anyways, this e-mail is most likely not making much sense, sorry -- but it's 2:13 AM and I've been up for well over 35 hours. I'll re-read this tommorow and when I'll come to my senses and ponder about parsing this message through sed and awk in order to make some sense out of it, and then i'll follow it up with another one saying how sorry I am, and with precisions. Why am I not sending it only tommorow instead? Well, I just tought of that six lines ago, and I will send it anyways because i'm cool like that. Thank you all in advance for your patience -- Alexandre Gauthier supernaut at underwares.org underwares.org Obscure IT knowledge Open Database The human brain operates at only 10% of its capacity. The rest is overhead for the operating system.