From macdaddee at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 02:39:25 2007 From: macdaddee at gmail.com (Mac Daddy) Date: Tue Apr 10 02:40:48 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] OSX and Linux interactivity Message-ID: Hello all. While I've been using the OS X command line for years now, I've only recently taken some courses and gotten certified in RHEL4 and will be starting a Linux-oriented job (RHEL 4/5 and Fedora) soon. I have some questions - 1. I run Fedora Core 6 under Parallels on my OS X box. If anyone else does this, does anyone have a way to Copy and Paste between the 2 environments the same way you can between Mac and a Windows VM? This would be an INVALUABLE aid!!! Actually, I suppose whether the Linux is a VM or not is irrelevant. Copying and Pasting between Mac Os X and Fedora isn't VM-dependent. 2. Can anyone suggest a list like this that is Linux-oriented? Preferably Fedora or Red Hat. If not, what other forums would anyone suggest for someone new to Linux and coming at it from a Mac OS X background? 3. Can anyone suggest an editor that can match the great features of BBedit under Linux? Thanks, MD From wingedpower at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 09:25:47 2007 From: wingedpower at gmail.com (Wing Wong) Date: Tue Apr 10 09:25:52 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] OSX and Linux interactivity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7097bd8c0704100925j34021539mf88d0aff4163afa5@mail.gmail.com> On 4/10/07, Mac Daddy wrote: > 1. I run Fedora Core 6 under Parallels on my OS X box. If anyone else > does this, does anyone have a way to Copy and Paste between the 2 > environments the same way you can between Mac and a Windows VM? This > would be an INVALUABLE aid!!! Actually, I suppose whether the Linux > is a VM or not is irrelevant. Copying and Pasting between Mac Os X > and Fedora isn't VM-dependent. In theory, you should be able to just paste into the VM and copy out of the VM. From the typical command line shell/window, you might need to right-click after selecting the text and selecting copy. Or you can middle-button click to select. This differs from previous Linux/X11 environments where highlighting=auto-copy. > 2. Can anyone suggest a list like this that is Linux-oriented? > Preferably Fedora or Red Hat. > If not, what other forums would anyone suggest for someone new to > Linux and coming at it from a Mac OS X background? ^_^;; There are plenty of Linux ML's, but you really need to look around. Your best friend is going to be Google. :) > 3. Can anyone suggest an editor that can match the great features of > BBedit under Linux? > Thanks, > MD Looking at the website for BBedit, I would have to say the closest would be Eclipse. It is available in Fedora Core 6(FC6). It's an IDE that is extensible via plugins and does markup/etc as BBedit does. Good luck and enjoy! Wing. -- Wing Wong wingedpower@gmail.com From macosxforme at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 09:56:22 2007 From: macosxforme at gmail.com (David Haines) Date: Tue Apr 10 09:56:29 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] OSX and Linux interactivity In-Reply-To: <7097bd8c0704100925j34021539mf88d0aff4163afa5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7097bd8c0704100925j34021539mf88d0aff4163afa5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <63FB70DA-7246-47B3-9BD1-9521F849ADD0@gmail.com> On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:25 PM, Wing Wong wrote: > On 4/10/07, Mac Daddy wrote: >> 1. I run Fedora Core 6 under Parallels on my OS X box. If anyone else >> does this, does anyone have a way to Copy and Paste between the 2 >> environments the same way you can between Mac and a Windows VM? ctl-c (or v) on the VM side (Windows or Linux) and then "cmd" (Apple- key) -c (or v) doesn't work ? > >> 3. Can anyone suggest an editor that can match the great features of >> BBedit under Linux? >> Thanks, >> MD > > Looking at the website for BBedit, I would have to say the closest > would be Eclipse. It is available in Fedora Core 6(FC6). It's an IDE > that is extensible via plugins and does markup/etc as BBedit does. > > Good luck and enjoy! There's even Eclipse for OS X, I've been working with it some. Eclipse seems to be well-loved. http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/ drops/R-3.2.2-200702121330/eclipse-SDK-3.2.2-macosx-carbon.tar.gz From apple.mail.list at oryx.cc Tue Apr 10 10:19:49 2007 From: apple.mail.list at oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp) Date: Tue Apr 10 10:20:01 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] OSX and Linux interactivity In-Reply-To: <63FB70DA-7246-47B3-9BD1-9521F849ADD0@gmail.com> References: <7097bd8c0704100925j34021539mf88d0aff4163afa5@mail.gmail.com> <63FB70DA-7246-47B3-9BD1-9521F849ADD0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <461BC735.8010409@oryx.cc> Eclipse is java based, and should run on any OS with the correct JVM. I prefer Netbeans ( http://www.netbeans.org/ ). YMMV. Jerry K David Haines wrote: > > > There's even Eclipse for OS X, I've been working with it some. Eclipse > seems to be well-loved. > > http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2.2-200702121330/eclipse-SDK-3.2.2-macosx-carbon.tar.gz > From groups at pursued-with.net Tue Apr 10 11:15:10 2007 From: groups at pursued-with.net (Kevin Stevens) Date: Tue Apr 10 11:15:33 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] OSX and Linux interactivity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3087F1F4-34AB-4B23-8C36-7F8F31D97687@pursued-with.net> On Apr 10, 2007, at 02:39, Mac Daddy wrote: > Hello all. > > While I've been using the OS X command line for years now, I've > only recently taken some courses and gotten certified in RHEL4 and > will be starting a Linux-oriented job (RHEL 4/5 and Fedora) soon. I > have some questions - > > 1. I run Fedora Core 6 under Parallels on my OS X box. If anyone > else does this, does anyone have a way to Copy and Paste between > the 2 environments the same way you can between Mac and a Windows > VM? This would be an INVALUABLE aid!!! Actually, I suppose whether > the Linux is a VM or not is irrelevant. Copying and Pasting > between Mac Os X and Fedora isn't VM-dependent. VMware Fusion has better tools support for Linux guest OS', and I've been migrating there since beta 3 (last week) supports BootCamp partitions. > 2. Can anyone suggest a list like this that is Linux-oriented? > Preferably Fedora or Red Hat. > If not, what other forums would anyone suggest for someone new to > Linux and coming at it from a Mac OS X background? I saw the Silicon Valley Linux Users Group recommended a bit ago, haven't checked them myself: http://www.svlug.org/ KeS From nanahcub at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 11:19:48 2007 From: nanahcub at gmail.com (Rod Buchanan) Date: Tue Apr 10 11:19:50 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] OSX and Linux interactivity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:39 AM, Mac Daddy wrote: > While I've been using the OS X command line for years now, I've > only recently taken some courses and gotten certified in RHEL4 and > will be starting a Linux-oriented job (RHEL 4/5 and Fedora) soon. I > have some questions - > > 1. I run Fedora Core 6 under Parallels on my OS X box. If anyone > else does this, does anyone have a way to Copy and Paste between > the 2 environments the same way you can between Mac and a Windows > VM? This would be an INVALUABLE aid!!! Actually, I suppose whether > the Linux is a VM or not is irrelevant. Copying and Pasting > between Mac Os X and Fedora isn't VM-dependent. In the Parallels help, support is for Windows (95 - Vista), OS/2, and eComStation; network driver only for Sun/others. -- Rod An elephant is the Windows version of an armadillo. From rips.ej at dreyfus.com Tue Apr 10 12:59:05 2007 From: rips.ej at dreyfus.com (Ethan Rips) Date: Tue Apr 10 13:05:14 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] Re: X-Unix Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <20070410181955.9AB5BB80ABE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 4/10/07 2:19 PM, "x-unix-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com" wrote: On 3/15/07 09:05PM, I wrote: > NOTE: This may not be the best place for me to address this issue; if so, > please feel free to suggest a more appropriate venue. > > I recently upgraded my Mac (PowerMac G5/2GB RAM/150GB HD) from OS X 10.3.9 > to 10.4.8. Since then, every app in which I tried to print crashed as soon > as I entered the Print command. > > Any suggestions on possible avenues to take in troubleshooting & correcting > this? I followed by saying that I'd solved the problem, which at first seemed to be the case. However, the same issue References: Message-ID: <4B1F0DC3-2982-4CC7-80D6-B430FF1011A8@myrealbox.com> On 10 Apr 2007, at 10:39, Mac Daddy wrote: > ... > 2. Can anyone suggest a list like this that is Linux-oriented? > Preferably Fedora or Red Hat. > If not, what other forums would anyone suggest for someone new to > Linux and coming at it from a Mac OS X background? The -users list of the Gentoo distro is very good - it mixes discussion of upgrade & dependency issues with "how do I grep all my MP3s & output the "genre" ID3 tags for them all" kind of questions. Looks like this is the Fedora / Dead Rat equivalent: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2007-April/thread.html Stroller. From RussellMcGaha at mac.com Mon Apr 30 17:57:32 2007 From: RussellMcGaha at mac.com (Russell McGaha) Date: Mon Apr 30 17:57:58 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] Text Listing (ls) question Message-ID: Folks; I've got a directory that I'd like to get a listing of [ ls -FlhTt > ~/Desktop/FileListing.txt]; BUT, I'd like to get ONLY Creation/ Modification date and Size of the File or Directory [as well as the File/Directory name, of course]. Is there a way I can get this?? Russell From jakobsen.lasse at euro.apple.com Mon Apr 30 19:50:56 2007 From: jakobsen.lasse at euro.apple.com (Lasse) Date: Mon Apr 30 19:51:07 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] Text Listing (ls) question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ls -FlhTt | awk '{print$6;print$7;print$8;print$5;print$10}' is one way. There will be many more I'm sure ;-) /L Den 01/05/2007 kl. 1.57 skrev Russell McGaha: > Folks; > I've got a directory that I'd like to get a listing of [ ls -FlhTt > > ~/Desktop/FileListing.txt]; BUT, I'd like to get ONLY Creation/ > Modification date and Size of the File or Directory [as well as the > File/Directory name, of course]. Is there a way I can get this?? > > Russell > _______________________________________________ > X-Unix mailing list > X-Unix@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-unix > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From rick at rickgordon.com Mon Apr 30 23:04:48 2007 From: rick at rickgordon.com (Rick Gordon) Date: Mon Apr 30 23:05:10 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] Any Command-Line Tools for Secure Delete or File Wipe ??? Message-ID: Is there any way to effect a secure delete or file wipe -- zeroing out the original data -- from the command line? -- ___________________________________________________ RICK GORDON EMERALD VALLEY GRAPHICS AND CONSULTING ___________________________________________________ WWW: http://www.shelterpub.com From hokland at mr.au.dk Mon Apr 30 23:18:29 2007 From: hokland at mr.au.dk (Steffen Hokland) Date: Mon Apr 30 23:18:46 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] Any Command-Line Tools for Secure Delete or File Wipe ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8199E4E1-AC95-4E27-A974-3DBFFEC5B105@mr.au.dk> Hi Rick On May 1, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Rick Gordon wrote: > Is there any way to effect a secure delete or file wipe -- zeroing > out the original data -- from the command line? Check out srm HTH, Steffen ___________________________________________ Steffen Lund Hokland, MSc. PhD Student The MR-Research Centre Institute of Clinical Medicine Aarhus University Hospital Skejby Hospital DK-8200 Aarhus Denmark AND Department of Experimental Clinical Oncology Aarhus University Hospital Aarhus Hospital Noerrebrogade DK-8000 Aarhus C Phone Office MR-C : +45 89495264 Phone Office DECO : +45 89492620 Phone Home : +45 48414828 Phone Mobile : +45 61307461 e-mail : hokland@mr.au.dk ___________________________________________ From rick at rickgordon.com Mon Apr 30 23:49:21 2007 From: rick at rickgordon.com (Rick Gordon) Date: Mon Apr 30 23:49:35 2007 Subject: [X-Unix] Any Command-Line Tools for Secure Delete or File Wipe ??? In-Reply-To: <8199E4E1-AC95-4E27-A974-3DBFFEC5B105@mr.au.dk> References: <8199E4E1-AC95-4E27-A974-3DBFFEC5B105@mr.au.dk> Message-ID: Perfect - thanks. ------------------ On 5/1/07 at 8:18 AM +0200, Steffen Hokland wrote in a message entitled "Re: [X-Unix] Any Command-Line Tools for Secure Delete or Fi": >Hi Rick > >On May 1, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Rick Gordon wrote: > >>Is there any way to effect a secure delete or file wipe -- zeroing out the original data -- from the command line? >Check out > >srm > >HTH, >Steffen -- ___________________________________________________ RICK GORDON EMERALD VALLEY GRAPHICS AND CONSULTING ___________________________________________________ WWW: http://www.shelterpub.com