On Oct 4, 2004, at 21:18, lists3-200402 wrote: > if you want long term usability...eudora is the way to go. I would disagree and change that to a qualified "if you want long term usability with a POP account". Eudora can be a PITA to get to play with IMAP accounts... or so my experience has been. Eudora does not handle well (or at all) the SSL authentication that we require for our IMAP account logins. Nor is its mailbox "scheme" intuitive for IMAP accounts. It puts some mailboxes under Dominant (which you can't rename to the user's name), but puts sent mail in the Out box that appears by default, and ignores the Trash mailbox that is pre-generated on the mail server because Eudora already has a mailbox by that name. You can't delete or rename the default Eudora mailboxes, so users end up looking in the wrong place for their mail. It's way too confusing for the average user. We're abandoning Eudora and moving to Mail (Mac OS X clients) and Thunderbird (Windows clients). Much less clunky, plays well with our servers, and much less expensive. But, as I said, this is my experience. I used to use Eudora, back before I became a network administrator and had to deal with its little idiosyncrasies. ^_^ Now I prefer Mail or Thunderbird... and mutt. gretchen