Hi Doug, I have my old Panther install on an external FW drive that I can boot from, as well as a fresh Tiger install on the internal. I've also been disappointed at the quality. If you leave the ichat window at it's default size, I think that the video IS a little clearer, but of course gets pixellated as you full- screen it. If you want to buddy list me at mikee60369 (AIM) (NOT this michaelelliott at mac address) then we could try a before-after and do screen shots to compare on the same connection. While we're on the topic...anyone out there with a G5 want to try to host multi-way chat? I think you have to have good upload bandwidth. I've been dying to try this feature. If so, buddy list me mikee60369 (AIM) Michael