On 5/12/05 11:09 PM, Kirk McElhearn <kirklists at wanadoo.fr> wrote: > On May 13, 2005, at 7:49 AM, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: > >> Originally I used MP3 at 128, since I had a 6GB HD. After bumping that up to >> 40GB, I changed to MP3 at 160, which was the standard Apple used to >> approximate how many songs would fit on an iPod. > > Nope. Apple's calculations are based on a 4-minute song, encoded at > 128 kbps. (The format doesn't matter.) Okay, wait. I retract my apology because I was not wrong. Apple advertised the first 20GB iPod as holding 4,000 songs. That was based on four minute songs encoded in the MP3 format at 160 kbps. The latest 20GB model is advertised as holding 5,000 songs. That is based on four minute songs encoded in the AAC format at 128 kbps. Prior to the introduction of the iTMS, they used 160kbps as the standard. Now that they use 128kbps, the iPods have 'increased capacity.' Sony went off the deep end with this type of math by saying their players could hold thousands more songs than comparably-sized iPods. They were using 48kbps tracks as the baseline. Eddie Hargreaves