On May 14, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Michael Elliott wrote: > Anyone else running into this? Yes! I have had nearly all the problems you have. Also, sometimes when an application, displays a dialog the application will lock up, not respond. Force quitting from the dock, usually works, but often will take more than one attempt before the problem application will quit. I haven't tried the three finger force quit lately, because that was locking up also. How do you force quit, the force quit window? I could still work, but I couldn't close the force quit window, which unfortunately floats above all other windows. I could drag it to the edge of the display. It wouldn't allow me to log out, shutdown, or restart normally. I have done all the repair routines, with AppleJack, and run the new DiskWarrior 3.0.3. Upgrading to 10.4 went very smoothly, but I may need to do an archive install. I have only had to force quit once since I ran DiskWarrior. Hopefully, some of the problems have cleared up. I will add that 10.4 is much more responsive on my G3 iBook, than any of the 10.3 versions. Even with the problems I'm glad I upgraded. Tom K.