Before AAC showed up on the radar, I used to use 160 kbps Highest VBR mp3 in iTunes. If it was a CD I really liked, I used LAME alt-preset standard. Now I just use 192 AAC as the best middle point between size and quality for me. My ears aren't finely tuned like others so i'm not too miffed about 192 AAC. If I truly liked a song or CD (like a greatest hits), I'll use ALE. I often mix it up on a track-by-track basis. I'd find a CD with 4 good songs that I'll put as 192 AAC and the rest as 160 Highest VBR. If it was a spoken word CD like a comedy concert, I'd switch it to 96 kbps Highest VBR. For example, I have an Adam Sandler comedy CD. I'd put his spoken word routines at 96 Highest VBR and whenever he sings a song, I'll switch to 160 or 192 AAC. I also try to buy the remastered editions of CDs. Their mixes are a way better source to encode than the original CDs that came out in the early days of CDs. > Thanks for the info Kirk and Eddie. I think I'm going to have to stick to > the 192 setting as the thought of reripping hundreds of cds fills me with > dread! It was a pain in the arse for me to re-rip a lot of my stuff. I had a lot of songs ripped as mp3s and I went to the attic to search for all the CDs I wanted to re-rip into AAC. I spent a lot of time re-ripping them and putting them back into the attic. While re-ripping, I selected all my favorite hit singles and desert island CDs and import them as ALE. Then I setup a smart playlist that says: file type is Apple Lossless. I name this my "Desert island songs" playlist. This list would contain all the songs I definitely want in hi-res, lossless format and if I was stranded on a desert island, these songs are what I'd take with me. I burn it to a DVD-R. I keep inserting new DVD-R blanks until the whole playlist is burnt. This allows me to delete these songs from my puny PowerBook hard drive. Whenever I need to re-rip a song, I just insert the DVD-R into the DVD drive, iTunes shows the DVD-R playlist. I select the songs I want and then select "Convert to Format XXX" and it goes into my PowerBook hard drive. I'd convert it to AIFF if I want to use it in another encoder outside of iTunes that doesn't support ALE like NMP3 or Ogg-Vorbis. Burning on to DVD-R provides me with a backup as well as saving space on my PB hard drive. Now I never have to take a trip to attic to look for that CD because all of my desert island CDs are in Apple Lossless format. This small stack of DVD-Rs of lossless audio is the perfect set up for me. It takes up less space in my bedroom because each DVD-R can hold a lot of audio CDs. I must admit that I sometimes missing physically browsing through my shelves (or under the couch, in the kitchen, in the car) for my CDs. > Try it again in a blind test - rip a bunch of songs in different > formats, set up a playlist in shuffle mode, then use the smart > playlist to see what you're listening to afterwards. You may be > surprised. Hearing is a cognitive action, and our brains influence > what we hear, often just because of expectations. > I usually do a test on a CD or song I am very familiar with. It's usually a song that I've overkilled playing on the stereo much to my wife's chagrin ;-) :-) Wilson - Guam, U.S.A. - - - P L E A S E C U T A L O N G D O T T E D L I N E - - - You can bend my ear We can talk all day Just make sure I'm around When you've finally got something to say. -- TOAD THE WET SPROCKET