So here's a weird one. My wife & I both have our own G5 machines and we both have iChat with iSights. Now when I first installed 10.4 on both our machines and tried iChat all worked fine. But now after a week or so I can't get either Mac to connect with the other either via our .mac accounts or via Bonjour. The video iChat secession starts up ok and requests the remote machine to accept but when the actual video connection starts we both get an error message I've never seen before it says "Disconnected from video Chat because: Can't get video from camera" however both machines show perfect video on the local preview screens. I looked in the connection doctor error log and it says " Video channel info: local machine using 192.168.56.56:16384, expecting remote machine to send to 24.96.205.77:26384" the IP starting with 24 is our router's external IP and the 192 address is the internal IP of one of the G5's. It appears that both machines are trying to send data to the external IP number this seems wrong to me. I tried deleting all the iChat perf's in the system library\preferences but that didn't correct the problem. Shouldn't Bonjour make a connection without IP numbers I always though Bonjour used MAC addresses ( media access control numbers) Anyone else seen this situation? P.S. I think I like the old iChat codec because when you try and make a three way conference the images blurs if you don't have enough bandwidth to the internet (I have a 400K up/5Mb down road runner account and even that doesn't seem to be enough) Doug LaBore Bloomington Minnesota