Thanks for the tip on the shift key, one I didn't know about. In the end I solved my problem by loging by remotely by ssh from another box and deleting fonts in my local font directory. At some point I must have deleted the right font and suddenly the login proceeded. Although the problem is solved, I still think it should be the responsibility of the login process to manage delays like this (5+ hours is just too long!) and handle them gracefully. -John On May 14, 2005, at 5:49 PM, Norman Cohen wrote: > If that's the case, logging in with the shift key held down should > keep any login items from launching when logging into the > troublesome account. > > Norm > Norman Cohen > nacohen at mac.com > > > On May 14, 2005, at 5:44 PM, lj Palmer wrote: > > >> Did you remove all your login/startup items in your account before >> the upgrade. This sounds like a startup item that may not be >> tiger compatible. The upgrade may otherwise be ok, if you wife's >> account is OK. >> ..lj >> > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984