Hi, I have 10.4.1 and am pretty happy with it, apart from one niggling issue. I can get the machine to display the time in 24 hr mode but for the life of me I can't figure out how to setup System Preferences: International: Formats to do it. The "best" I've seen so far is 12 hr time but without the "am" or "pm". Any pointers? Do I need to pick a specific country (apart from my own) to get 24hr time? -- Regards, Mark (}-: +61 (0)4 1927 7198 Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 Help! Help! He's STILL being held prisoner in a system software factory! -- Mac System Software