From ms53 at optonline.net Fri Dec 1 00:30:58 2006 From: ms53 at optonline.net (Mitchell Senft) Date: Fri Dec 1 00:31:58 2006 Subject: [X4U] disappeared windows etc. Message-ID: Running Parallels on a MacBook. Had a number of apps installed on the Windows side, so to speak, as well as certain configurations on the Mac side. IIRC, I changed the name of the Mac . Parallels and Windows had been installed by the seller who tok the liberty of selecting an account name I didn't ant -- wasn't quite easy enough to remember. IIRC, after making the changes, shut down. On next boot, things were different. Settings had reverted. For instance, the Dock had moved with its preferences reverted to the defaults; similarly the trackpad. And Parallels "forgot" that Windows had been installed and all the Windows apps seeming disappeared from the drive. Long story, short question: How do I "find" the "missing" Windows apps so I don't have reinstall them -- one of which was fairly time consuming? Thanks, Mitchell From choffman at eclimb.net Fri Dec 1 07:57:27 2006 From: choffman at eclimb.net (Craig Hoffman) Date: Fri Dec 1 07:57:33 2006 Subject: [X4U] Noisy UPS Message-ID: My G4, Airport and two external drives are plugged into a APC UPS XS 900. Recently the UPS has started making a lot of noise. It sounds like a motor (transformer?) grinding away. The noise has become very distracting. The unit is not that old, I think it was purchased in the spring / summer of '06. Any thoughts on how to quite this thing down? Thanks, Craig ____________________________________ Craig Hoffman IM: m0untaind0g ____________________________________ From steveself at mac.com Fri Dec 1 08:32:39 2006 From: steveself at mac.com (Steve Self) Date: Fri Dec 1 08:32:53 2006 Subject: [X4U] Noisy UPS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does this one have a fan that might be out of balance? After restarting the unit... Maybe remove the battery and re-install it... If all that produces no resolution, maybe call APC? Steve From choffman at eclimb.net Fri Dec 1 10:04:00 2006 From: choffman at eclimb.net (Craig Hoffman) Date: Fri Dec 1 10:04:11 2006 Subject: [X4U] Noisy UPS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E97EC73-A18F-4385-BB43-057E10A4DB7E@eclimb.net> I called APC, they're sending me a replacement unit. The tech support fellow suspected the fan as well... ____________________________________ Craig Hoffman IM: m0untaind0g ____________________________________ On Dec 1, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Steve Self wrote: > Does this one have a fan that might be out of balance? > After restarting the unit... > Maybe remove the battery and re-install it... > > If all that produces no resolution, maybe call APC? > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From colin at eleventhvolume.com Fri Dec 1 12:29:16 2006 From: colin at eleventhvolume.com (eleventhvolume) Date: Fri Dec 1 12:29:32 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: Stuck CD - advice much appreciated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A sincere thank you to all those who suggested ways to get my CD out of its MacBook burrow. Unfortunately, although I tried all of them, none worked (this time). I'm glad to say I'm still in warranty so I'm off to an Apple store (for the first time) tomorrow to hopefully get it fixed. Just to be sure, I'm staying up 'til midnight to book my slot - which is apparently when Saturday's reservations can be made. Once again, many thanks for all of the suggestions, much appreciated. All the best, Colin. [http://www.eleventhvolume.com] From macmonster at myrealbox.com Fri Dec 1 12:43:21 2006 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Fri Dec 1 12:43:27 2006 Subject: [X4U] disappeared windows etc. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 1 Dec 2006, at 08:30, Mitchell Senft wrote: > ... IIRC, I changed the name of the Mac ... had been installed by > the seller who took the liberty of selecting an account name I > didn't want -- wasn't quite easy enough to remember. > > IIRC, after making the changes, shut down. On next boot, things > were different. Settings had reverted. For instance, the Dock had > moved with its preferences reverted to the defaults; similarly the > trackpad.... How do I "find" the "missing" Windows apps so I don't > have reinstall them ... Someone else may be able to help you some, but surely not as well as they might have been able to had you given us more information. I certainly can't help when you say "IIRC I did something vague". An account name is different from the name of the Mac - users and computers are different & separate under OS X. Which did you really change? How did you change it? Did you do so through System Preferences? Through Netinfo Manager? I hope you didn't try changing the name of the user through Finder! That would certainly b0rk things up. Saying "IIRC" is acceptable if one is providing an answer to a question - in this case one is helping the original poster and a little vagueness may be forgivable if the rest of the reply contains useful information. Being vague when asking for help ("IIRC") is - I'm sorry - just lame; your comments about what you've done do not help anyone diagnose the problem. Your post could more succinctly been written: I was messing around with my Mac & I b0rked something up. All my user preferences have been reset to their defaults but - more importantly - Parallels is unable to find the Windows installation. How do I find the Windows files and tell Parallels where they are, please? Such a post would actually help us help you, Stroller. From clong at mac.com Fri Dec 1 12:58:27 2006 From: clong at mac.com (Chris Long) Date: Fri Dec 1 12:59:52 2006 Subject: [X4U] New Beta of Parallels Desktop Message-ID: Read all about it here: http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2276 > Another major enhancement in the new version -- labeled Parallels > Desktop for Mac Beta Build 3036 -- will allow a pre-installed Apple > Boot Camp partition with Windows XP to be used as a virtual hard > disk drive. Users of the software will be able to boot from that > Boot Camp partition directly from within Parallels Desktop, > forgoing a restart. > > Other new features included in build 3036 include one-click virtual > machine aliases, transparent mapping of command-AZXCV key > combinations, shared folder configuration on-the-fly, drag-and-drop > of CD/FDD images and folders, and some new eye-catching animations > that coincide with Power On/Power Off/Suspend/Resume/Pause functions. Download here: http://download.parallels.com/beta/Parallels%20Desktop%203036%20Mac% 20en.dmg From bluellama at charter.net Fri Dec 1 12:59:46 2006 From: bluellama at charter.net (Bluellama) Date: Fri Dec 1 12:59:59 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: Stuck CD - advice much appreciated In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CFA4A93-7B49-4219-A6D1-29789C47E16D@charter.net> As a reminder before you bring it in to the Apple store you might want to consider backing up your important files. More likely than not the service folks won' t mess with the hard drive, but I have seen an occasion or two where they have (yes even for a simple repair), reinitialized the drive. Anyway it is good policy to back-up regularly anyway. Regards, mr On Dec 1, 2006, at 3:29 PM, eleventhvolume wrote: > A sincere thank you to all those who suggested ways to get my CD > out of its > MacBook burrow. Unfortunately, although I tried all of them, none > worked > (this time). I'm glad to say I'm still in warranty so I'm off to an > Apple > store (for the first time) tomorrow to hopefully get it fixed. Just > to be > sure, I'm staying up 'til midnight to book my slot - which is > apparently > when Saturday's reservations can be made. > > Once again, many thanks for all of the suggestions, much appreciated. > > All the best, Colin. > From mastermacchief at gmail.com Fri Dec 1 13:29:45 2006 From: mastermacchief at gmail.com (Peter Apockotos) Date: Fri Dec 1 13:29:59 2006 Subject: [X4U] .Mac iChat icons Message-ID: <2FD7960A-27C8-40DE-84B8-802C9EBA04F6@gmail.com> I am currently trying out .mac again after a few years of getting it for free as an Apple contracted employee. But, I would like to try out the .Mac iChat icons without being forced to upgrade right now. Mostly due to no income since I am disabled. Now in a month or two I will have surgery and a settlement. Then I will be able to purchase the full upgrade of .Mac. But, I would really like to play with the icons now. So if anyone has these and would like to send them to me off list please do so? Thank you, Peter Apockotos From colin at eleventhvolume.com Fri Dec 1 16:08:12 2006 From: colin at eleventhvolume.com (eleventhvolume) Date: Fri Dec 1 16:08:20 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: Stuck CD - advice much appreciated In-Reply-To: <5CFA4A93-7B49-4219-A6D1-29789C47E16D@charter.net> Message-ID: > As a reminder before you bring it in to the Apple store you might > want to consider backing up your important files. More likely than > not the service folks won' t mess with the hard drive, but I have > seen an occasion or two where they have (yes even for a simple > repair), reinitialized the drive. > > Anyway it is good policy to back-up regularly anyway. I did so, earlier this evening. Invested in a 500gb LaCie, though I do miss the Firewire 800 of my previous Powerbook in this 1st rev MacBook Pro. ATB, Colin. From jperdman at earthlink.net Fri Dec 1 21:04:58 2006 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Fri Dec 1 21:05:12 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49413B30-F006-4429-B613-DD078502F724@earthlink.net> Hi Folks - I sure could use a good steer toward some detailed step by step instructions for printing from an XP client to a USB printer on an iMac G5 running OS 10.4.8. The computers are networked via hard wire ethernet thru a D-Link router. We have no trouble at all with the shared internet connection, just getting the two computers to talk to each other has been a problem. Can you suggest a site that has been helpful for you for setting up a XP(client) to Mac-USB printer? I've found so many hits by googling that it's not really helpful... especially those that contain info about earlier operating systems. I do have connection between the two computers in that I am able to access the iMac files from the XP laptop, but not vice versa. All attempts to connect from the iMac to the laptop are met with an error message (error code -43). But at least I do know now that the two machines can talk to each other... so I figure the problem is in the setup for the printer. I've turned to trying to get the XP computer to print on the USB printer connected to the iMac. Done all the things I'm supposed to... turning on printer sharing in the Sharing pref, turning on printer sharing in Print and Fax pref. , getting the work groups to match, etc. After I do all the things I think I'm supposed to do, I try to add a new printer to the to the printer list on the Windows machine. Even using the Wizard I'm unable to get it to recognize any printer. I get stumped when it asks for the URL to the printer. The example seems to be what one would use to connect to another Windows computer. I've tried everything I can think of using info from the experience of setting up the PC to Mac file sharing.. but nothing seems to work. From all I've read getting shared printing ought to be pretty simple.... so I must be missing something. If you've got a good web reference for connecting an XP client to an iMac-G5 running OS 10.4.8 as a print server I'd appreciate the lead. Step by step instructions would be very helpful. Thanks, John From jperdman at earthlink.net Sat Dec 2 06:21:37 2006 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Sat Dec 2 06:22:02 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: <49413B30-F006-4429-B613-DD078502F724@earthlink.net> References: <49413B30-F006-4429-B613-DD078502F724@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <10B48351-9A4F-4CAC-8886-1872165CF533@earthlink.net> I think I was pretty tired last night when I wrote that rambling plea for help... Here's a clearer version. .. I follow all the steps for setting up my Mac's USB printer as a network printer. I'm pretty sure now that the Mac settings are all OK. However when I try to add this network printer to the list in the Window XP machine it doesn't find it in the list of possibilities. Using the offered browse option, I find the iMac network but there is no printer offered. When I select that network option there is a place to enter the printers name.... and when I do enter one using the name used on the Mac, I get an error that I've either mistyped the name or that the network connection has been lost. Of course the Help function is not very helpful with trouble shooting. Can anybody suggest any links that can help me with the troubleshooting?. From everything I've read setting up a network printer is dead simple. So I figure I must be overlooking something very obvious.... but darned if I can figure out what it is. The Apple support site doesn't address tis issue and Googling gives so many hits that it is tough to sort thru everything. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, John On Dec 2, 2006, at 12:04 AM, John Erdman wrote: > Hi Folks - > I sure could use a good steer toward some detailed step by step > instructions for printing from an XP client to a USB printer on an > iMac G5 running OS 10.4.8. > From philip.robar at gmail.com Sat Dec 2 07:41:10 2006 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Sat Dec 2 07:41:54 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: <10B48351-9A4F-4CAC-8886-1872165CF533@earthlink.net> References: <49413B30-F006-4429-B613-DD078502F724@earthlink.net> <10B48351-9A4F-4CAC-8886-1872165CF533@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <11F87177-C684-4AC5-9EB3-CD2FAB91F04B@gmail.com> On Dec 2, 2006, at 6:21 AM, John Erdman wrote: > I follow all the steps for setting up my Mac's USB printer as a > network printer. I'm pretty sure now that the Mac settings are all OK. > > However when I try to add this network printer to the list in the > Window XP machine it doesn't find it in the list of possibilities. Apple has a version of Bonjour for Windows. It might help Windows find your shared printer. Phil From netkat at comcast.net Sat Dec 2 08:21:31 2006 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Sat Dec 2 08:21:41 2006 Subject: [X4U] Canoscan install problems Message-ID: <541D86B4-5B6C-4682-BAC4-849EB6D62E4F@comcast.net> I just upgraded my Pismo to Tiger (from Panther). everything went fine up until my trying to install the drivers for my canon scanner. the first installer is for a general canon device; the second for the partic. scanner you have. After the first installer deposited a clickable install widget on my desktop, I launched, but then got: Error creating file. 1008:5, -5000 Access denied error ( OK ) then another telling me I don't have enough priveleges. I repaired priveleges using Onyx for tiger, but same results. Anyone have an idea what the issue is here? thank you! nk From poolmouse_nyc at mac.com Sat Dec 2 08:46:57 2006 From: poolmouse_nyc at mac.com (poolmouse_nyc) Date: Sat Dec 2 08:47:12 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: New Beta of Parallels Desktop In-Reply-To: <20061201210000.507A7508D28@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061201210000.507A7508D28@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <4571AE01.2020107@mac.com> Chris Long wrote: > Read all about it here: > > http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2276 > >> > Another major enhancement in the new version -- labeled Parallels >> > Desktop for Mac Beta Build 3036 -- will allow a pre-installed Apple >> > Boot Camp partition with Windows XP to be used as a virtual hard >> > disk drive. Users of the software will be able to boot from that >> > Boot Camp partition directly from within Parallels Desktop, >> > forgoing a restart. >> > >> > Other new features included in build 3036 include one-click virtual >> > machine aliases, transparent mapping of command-AZXCV key >> > combinations, shared folder configuration on-the-fly, drag-and-drop >> > of CD/FDD images and folders, and some new eye-catching animations >> > that coincide with Power On/Power Off/Suspend/Resume/Pause functions. > > Download here: > > http://download.parallels.com/beta/Parallels%20Desktop%203036%20Mac% > 20en.dmg interesting...time to back up my bootcamp partition and my parallels folder. ;) there goes my weekend. don From tlmiller at mac.com Sat Dec 2 09:53:56 2006 From: tlmiller at mac.com (T.L. Miller) Date: Sat Dec 2 09:54:06 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: New Beta of Parallels Desktop In-Reply-To: <4571AE01.2020107@mac.com> References: <20061201210000.507A7508D28@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <4571AE01.2020107@mac.com> Message-ID: <20061202175356.212543740@smtp.mac.com> On 12/2/06, at 11:46 AM, poolmouse_nyc poolmouse_nyc@mac.com said: >> http://download.parallels.com/beta/Parallels%20Desktop%203036%20Mac% >> 20en.dmg > >interesting...time to back up my bootcamp partition and my parallels >folder. ;) >there goes my weekend. Works well except I have never gotten my MacBook's webcam to work when using Parallels. I understand it should work, but haven't figured it out yet. Tom Miller .................................................. "The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side." R.O.Clark ................................................... From lists_lrb at mac.com Sat Dec 2 11:19:28 2006 From: lists_lrb at mac.com (Rod Buchanan) Date: Sat Dec 2 11:19:38 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: <10B48351-9A4F-4CAC-8886-1872165CF533@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 12/2/06 8:21 AM, "John Erdman" wrote: > Here's a clearer version. .. I follow all the steps for setting up > my Mac's USB printer as a network printer. I'm pretty sure now that > the Mac settings are all OK. Here's what I _think_ you need to do: 1) in System Preferences->Sharing make sure Printer Sharing and Windows Sharing are on; 2) in System Preferences->Print & Fax make sure the printer is being shared in the Sharing tab; 3) run Directory Access (n the Utilities folder), highlight SMB/CIFS, and click "Configure." Make sure the workgroup name is the same as the Windows machine. -- Rod "The Klingon gods were slain by ancient Klingon warriors millennia ago. They proved more trouble than they were worth." -- Lt. Commander Worf From jperdman at earthlink.net Sat Dec 2 11:44:00 2006 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Sat Dec 2 11:44:02 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59F178AE-5435-4114-ACDD-F9CFA22F6FFF@earthlink.net> Rod - Thanks. I had done all these steps as part of the setting up the iMac for shared printing. It is at this point that I go over to the WinXP machine and try to set up the new printer. When I browse for the printer I find the iMac network connection but there's no printer associated with it. I don't know how to help it find that printer. The name I call the printer on the MAC (i560) is not recognized in the WinXP printer set up windows. So what do I do next???? I'll look into Bonjour. Thanks, John > > Here's what I _think_ you need to do: > > 1) in System Preferences->Sharing make sure Printer Sharing and > Windows > Sharing are on; > > 2) in System Preferences->Print & Fax make sure the printer is > being > shared in the Sharing tab; > > 3) run Directory Access (n the Utilities folder), highlight SMB/ > CIFS, > and click "Configure." Make sure the workgroup name is the same as > the > Windows machine. > > -- From poolmouse_nyc at mac.com Sat Dec 2 13:19:12 2006 From: poolmouse_nyc at mac.com (poolmouse_nyc) Date: Sat Dec 2 13:19:27 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: New Beta of Parallels Desktop In-Reply-To: <20061202191939.0D70B5129BE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061202191939.0D70B5129BE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <4571EDD0.9000309@mac.com> "T.L. Miller" wrote: > Works well except I have never gotten my MacBook's webcam to work when > using Parallels. I understand it should work, but haven't figured it out yet. > > Tom Miller if you're running the latest parallels (1970) and installed parallels tools, the camera should work fine. don From jwarms at mac.com Sat Dec 2 14:55:25 2006 From: jwarms at mac.com (Jon Warms) Date: Sat Dec 2 14:55:49 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 (John Erdman) In-Reply-To: <20061202191939.0D70B5129BE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061202191939.0D70B5129BE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <76D82B4F-9702-4644-955D-B7F256A8718F@mac.com> Just did this yesterday. 1) What's the network name of your Mac? Mine is "Carly" 2) On the Mac, go to Printer Setup Utility, select your printer, show info, and in the name box, put some easy name. I called the HL2040, "CarlyPrint". 3) In Windows XP (SP2), I printed a document. Where it lists the printers available (which are none right now), add a printer. 4) In the Add a printer wizard, select the button that looks on your local network. 5) On my system, I wrote (IIRC): \\Carly\CarlyPrint. (This is my recollection, but the wizard shows the format you should follow.) 6) It found CarlyPrint and added it to the Windows list. 7) And It printed. HTH, Jon > Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:04:58 -0500 > From: John Erdman > > Hi Folks - > I sure could use a good steer toward some detailed step by step > instructions for printing from an XP client to a USB printer on an > iMac G5 running OS 10.4.8. > > The computers are networked via hard wire ethernet thru a D-Link > router. We have no trouble at all with the shared internet > connection, just getting the two computers to talk to each other has > been a problem. > > Can you suggest a site that has been helpful for you for setting up a > XP(client) to Mac-USB printer? From steveself at mac.com Sat Dec 2 16:21:08 2006 From: steveself at mac.com (Steve Self) Date: Sat Dec 2 16:21:24 2006 Subject: [X4U] Canoscan install problems In-Reply-To: <541D86B4-5B6C-4682-BAC4-849EB6D62E4F@comcast.net> References: <541D86B4-5B6C-4682-BAC4-849EB6D62E4F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1013C336-1632-4B74-83E2-A105D712367B@mac.com> I have had issues with Canon scanner software... Do you have the most up to date version from their web site? It can be arcane to finally find it within their labyrinthine hierarchy... Steve From jperdman at earthlink.net Sat Dec 2 17:44:17 2006 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Sat Dec 2 17:44:30 2006 Subject: [X4U] Getting Closer Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 (John Erdman) In-Reply-To: <76D82B4F-9702-4644-955D-B7F256A8718F@mac.com> References: <20061202191939.0D70B5129BE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <76D82B4F-9702-4644-955D-B7F256A8718F@mac.com> Message-ID: <5822F53C-F596-4A5A-8CE6-21604120B9FA@earthlink.net> Whoooohooooooo! Both Jon (Carlyprint) and Phil(Bonjour) suggestions worked! I now have the Canon i560 printer on the XP's printer list by both methods. But neither one works yet! I can send off a print job. It looks like it's going but nothing happens at the printer. Checking on the print queue I find that the job appear on the completed list. I suspect a driver problem. I have the Canon i560 drivers on both machines. They both work fine when I have the USB connected directly to the machines. I sorta recall that I have to use a different driver to use it over the network. I'll start looking for a useful driver on my own but if you have a suggestion let 'er fly. But I am making progress. Thanks for the help to date. John From netkat at comcast.net Sat Dec 2 20:45:55 2006 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Sat Dec 2 20:46:05 2006 Subject: [X4U] Canoscan install problems In-Reply-To: <1013C336-1632-4B74-83E2-A105D712367B@mac.com> References: <541D86B4-5B6C-4682-BAC4-849EB6D62E4F@comcast.net> <1013C336-1632-4B74-83E2-A105D712367B@mac.com> Message-ID: <5c8718b7ae81d04e7f193ea29c3176c8@comcast.net> thanks, Steve; yeah, I had the latest. I think that this machine on tiger doesn't get along with that installer....anyway, I went back to Panther; Tiger just needs too much juice to be useful on this old PB.. nk On Dec 2, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Steve Self wrote: > I have had issues with Canon scanner software... Do you have the most > up to date version from their web site? It can be arcane to finally > find it within their labyrinthine hierarchy... > > Steve From stephen.mackenzie at glenan.plus.com Sun Dec 3 08:23:56 2006 From: stephen.mackenzie at glenan.plus.com (Stephen Mackenzie) Date: Sun Dec 3 08:24:26 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: <59F178AE-5435-4114-ACDD-F9CFA22F6FFF@earthlink.net> References: <59F178AE-5435-4114-ACDD-F9CFA22F6FFF@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A3B3F6F-BE49-4881-B655-07503F7234AD@glenan.plus.com> On 2 Dec 2006, at 19:44, John Erdman wrote: > So what do I do next???? Maybe also look into the firewall settings on the two machines. SM From michaelelliott at mac.com Sun Dec 3 09:48:35 2006 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sun Dec 3 09:48:50 2006 Subject: [X4U] Parallels Desktop In-Reply-To: References: <200611302124.kAULOgG6023277@onyx.spiritone.com> Message-ID: <08B0380F-3204-4A11-9CAD-F10E8A1DFF2F@mac.com> I think that just changed with the latest beta? On Nov 30, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Robert Ameeti wrote: >> Can Parallels use a partition setup for Bootcamp? > > No -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20061203/2edc7ae6/attachment.html From macmonster at myrealbox.com Sun Dec 3 21:12:56 2006 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Sun Dec 3 21:13:18 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: <4A3B3F6F-BE49-4881-B655-07503F7234AD@glenan.plus.com> References: <59F178AE-5435-4114-ACDD-F9CFA22F6FFF@earthlink.net> <4A3B3F6F-BE49-4881-B655-07503F7234AD@glenan.plus.com> Message-ID: On 3 Dec 2006, at 16:23, Stephen Mackenzie wrote: > On 2 Dec 2006, at 19:44, John Erdman wrote: > >> So what do I do next???? > > Maybe also look into the firewall settings on the two machines. The job _shouldn't_ appear as "completed" if the firewall is blocking printing. I quite often see Norton preventing network printing between Windows XP machines, and I'm sure the client machine always throws an error ("unable to connect"? "timeout printing"?) in this situation. Stroller. From ms53 at optonline.net Mon Dec 4 01:28:19 2006 From: ms53 at optonline.net (Mitchell Senft) Date: Mon Dec 4 01:28:24 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization Message-ID: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> Once again having problems with reaching the 5 machine limit for authorization with iTunes. (ITunes downloads are limited to playing on 5 machines.) The problem is complicated by the fact that one machine was trashed without de-authorizing and the hard drive of the second, also-retired machine is unavailable as well. Per Apple, the simple solution is to de-authorize all. My questions are: If I do that, do all the iTunes downloads also get rendered unplayable even after I reauthorize the machine to which they've been downloaded? And if so, is there any alternative to a mass de- authorization? Thanks, Mitchell From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Dec 4 02:05:27 2006 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Dec 4 02:05:47 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> Message-ID: On 4 Dec 2006, at 09:28, Mitchell Senft wrote: > Once again having problems with reaching the 5 machine limit for > authorization with iTunes. (ITunes downloads are limited to playing > on 5 machines.) > > The problem is complicated by the fact that one machine was trashed > without de-authorizing and the hard drive of the second, also- > retired machine is unavailable as well. > > Per Apple, the simple solution is to de-authorize all. My questions > are: If I do that, do all the iTunes downloads also get rendered > unplayable even after I reauthorize the machine to which they've > been downloaded? And if so, is there any alternative to a mass de- > authorization? I was an early adopter of iTunes and bought a couple of tracks from the store almost as soon as it was launched. Quite quickly I lost the tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) and so I decided not to buy DRMed tracks. More recently I bought an album from iTunes - which has gone too as I swapped machines around. I cannot be bothered fighting with the software to use licensed product - so I don't buy DRMed music. Old fashioned CDs work fine for me. Once again, the law is an ass. Frequently the measures introduced to deter ne'er-do-wells just ends up inconveniencing honest users while doing little to prevent abuse by the less scrupulous. Let's face it, if you want to make use of music you haven't purchased (aka "piracy"), it's easy enough to do. I choose broadly to stay on the right side of the law [1]. OK, mini-rant over. To bring this back on topic, if I go to the Apple store, it tells me I've already downloaded all my purchases. This is true, but as I couldn't use them due to Apple's DRM, the tracks subsequently have been lost. See. I give in. At least with non-DRMed product I know where I stand. Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________ [1] "Broadly" because I defy anyone (particularly car drivers) to stay inside the law all the time. I'll say no more on this 'cause it could become a rant! From kirkmc at mac.com Mon Dec 4 02:16:52 2006 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Mon Dec 4 02:17:08 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > I was an early adopter of iTunes and bought a couple of tracks from > the store almost as soon as it was launched. Quite quickly I lost > the tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) and so I > decided not to buy DRMed tracks. More recently I bought an album > from iTunes - which has gone too as I swapped machines around. In other words, you didn't back up your files...? :-) Kirk Co-author of: Mastering Mac OS X - Tiger Edition http://www.mcelhearn.com/tiger.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Dec 4 03:02:47 2006 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Dec 4 03:02:53 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> Message-ID: <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> On 4 Dec 2006, at 10:16, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > >> I was an early adopter of iTunes and bought a couple of tracks >> from the store almost as soon as it was launched. Quite quickly I >> lost the tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) and so >> I decided not to buy DRMed tracks. More recently I bought an album >> from iTunes - which has gone too as I swapped machines around. > > In other words, you didn't back up your files...? :-) Actually, no. It's simply that I tend to use the move from one machine to another (or a hard drive upgrade) as an excuse to do some spring cleaning. I copy across the stuff I need and then make some form of archive copy of the old data so that if I need something in the future, I can go get it. But think garage storage. After you've not needed something for a few months - maybe a year - it's chucked in the garage. A couple of years down the line, you know it's in the garage but there's got to be a pretty compelling reason to go dig it out. (Compressed disk archives on DVDs anyone?) Now think tracks I can't access. Why keep them? They don't get copied across. If I can manage my track authorisation list, great. Tell me how. (As an administrator for at least a dozen Mac servers of various flavours I should be able to cope - but I want to manage from a centralised point, remotely, with administrator privileges). Show me how to do this and I may use iTunes store a bit more. Anyway, as it stands, some of the tracks I've purchased are authorised to five computers long since gone. How do I de-authorise them? (Ah. OK. Found the de-authorise all button in the "View my account..." menu item). Ah. Sod it. I've wasted more time tippety tapping out these emails than it would have taken to go and buy the CDs from Amazon. At GBP 15 per album, to replace all my iTunes tracks would cost GBP 45 - and then no more of this faffing about. Realistically, it'll cost me less than that. Now tell me, why do I want to use the iTunes store? Simon Forster ________________________________________________________ 7 Mill Lane, Woolstone, Milton Keynes, MK15 0AJ, UK Tel: +44 (0)19 0867 5225 Mbl: +44 (0)79 0528 8198 ________________________________________________________ From kirkmc at mac.com Mon Dec 4 03:08:52 2006 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Mon Dec 4 03:09:03 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> Message-ID: <6C710547-CD26-4FD8-B114-7984E89212CA@mac.com> On Dec 4, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Simon Forster wrote: >>> I was an early adopter of iTunes and bought a couple of tracks >>> from the store almost as soon as it was launched. Quite quickly I >>> lost the tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) and >>> so I decided not to buy DRMed tracks. More recently I bought an >>> album from iTunes - which has gone too as I swapped machines around. >> >> In other words, you didn't back up your files...? :-) > > Actually, no. It's simply that I tend to use the move from one > machine to another (or a hard drive upgrade) as an excuse to do > some spring cleaning. I copy across the stuff I need and then make > some form of archive copy of the old data so that if I need > something in the future, I can go get it. But think garage storage. > After you've not needed something for a few months - maybe a year - > it's chucked in the garage. A couple of years down the line, you > know it's in the garage but there's got to be a pretty compelling > reason to go dig it out. (Compressed disk archives on DVDs anyone?) I would think you would copy your home folder, which is where your iTunes music files are stored... > > Now think tracks I can't access. Why keep them? They don't get > copied across. You mean you don't copy them. > > If I can manage my track authorisation list, great. Tell me how. > (As an administrator for at least a dozen Mac servers of various > flavours I should be able to cope - but I want to manage from a > centralised point, remotely, with administrator privileges). Show > me how to do this and I may use iTunes store a bit more. From the iTunes Store, check your account info; it tells you how many computers are authorized. > > Anyway, as it stands, some of the tracks I've purchased are > authorised to five computers long since gone. How do I de-authorise > them? (Ah. OK. Found the de-authorise all button in the "View my > account..." menu item). Yep. > > Ah. Sod it. I've wasted more time tippety tapping out these emails > than it would have taken to go and buy the CDs from Amazon. At GBP > 15 per album, to replace all my iTunes tracks would cost GBP 45 - > and then no more of this faffing about. Realistically, it'll cost > me less than that. > > Now tell me, why do I want to use the iTunes store? You obviously don't. :-) Kirk Author of: Take Control of Users & Accounts in Tiger http://www.mcelhearn.com/tco.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Dec 4 03:22:43 2006 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Dec 4 03:22:53 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <6C710547-CD26-4FD8-B114-7984E89212CA@mac.com> References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> <6C710547-CD26-4FD8-B114-7984E89212CA@mac.com> Message-ID: <58592C67-3EA4-493E-834B-A9BB52DDC493@ldml.com> On 4 Dec 2006, at 11:08, Kirk McElhearn wrote: >> Actually, no. It's simply that I tend to use the move from one >> machine to another (or a hard drive upgrade) as an excuse to do >> some spring cleaning. I copy across the stuff I need and then make >> some form of archive copy of the old data so that if I need >> something in the future, I can go get it. But think garage >> storage. After you've not needed something for a few months - >> maybe a year - it's chucked in the garage. A couple of years down >> the line, you know it's in the garage but there's got to be a >> pretty compelling reason to go dig it out. (Compressed disk >> archives on DVDs anyone?) > > I would think you would copy your home folder, which is where your > iTunes music files are stored... Yep. But my home folder can get quite large, so I tend to be quite brutal when it comes to the spring cleaning. If the tracks are unavailable to me (a flawed assumption - as Mitchell has brought to my attention), why keep 'em? >> Now tell me, why do I want to use the iTunes store? > > You obviously don't. :-) And there sir, you're absolutely correct. I fail to see the compelling argument for using iTunes store. The DRM content and opaque authorisation management tools put the final nail in a service which has convenience as its core proposition. YMMV of course. Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________ From kirkmc at mac.com Mon Dec 4 03:42:46 2006 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Mon Dec 4 03:42:57 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <58592C67-3EA4-493E-834B-A9BB52DDC493@ldml.com> References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> <6C710547-CD26-4FD8-B114-7984E89212CA@mac.com> <58592C67-3EA4-493E-834B-A9BB52DDC493@ldml.com> Message-ID: <4F941555-4E71-430D-9BF4-E65134E5F0BC@mac.com> On Dec 4, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Simon Forster wrote: >>> Actually, no. It's simply that I tend to use the move from one >>> machine to another (or a hard drive upgrade) as an excuse to do >>> some spring cleaning. I copy across the stuff I need and then >>> make some form of archive copy of the old data so that if I need >>> something in the future, I can go get it. But think garage >>> storage. After you've not needed something for a few months - >>> maybe a year - it's chucked in the garage. A couple of years down >>> the line, you know it's in the garage but there's got to be a >>> pretty compelling reason to go dig it out. (Compressed disk >>> archives on DVDs anyone?) >> >> I would think you would copy your home folder, which is where your >> iTunes music files are stored... > > Yep. But my home folder can get quite large, so I tend to be quite > brutal when it comes to the spring cleaning. If the tracks are > unavailable to me (a flawed assumption - as Mitchell has brought to > my attention), why keep 'em? True, though, as you say, flawed... > >>> Now tell me, why do I want to use the iTunes store? >> >> You obviously don't. :-) > > And there sir, you're absolutely correct. I fail to see the > compelling argument for using iTunes store. The DRM content and > opaque authorisation management tools put the final nail in a > service which has convenience as its core proposition. Well, I haven't had problems with it. It's substantially cheaper than CDs in many cases - and in others, I buy the CDs. Best, Kirk Author of: Take Control of Customizing Microsoft Office http://www.mcelhearn.com/tcoo.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From jperdman at earthlink.net Mon Dec 4 04:26:19 2006 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Mon Dec 4 04:26:34 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 THE Problem defined! In-Reply-To: References: <59F178AE-5435-4114-ACDD-F9CFA22F6FFF@earthlink.net> <4A3B3F6F-BE49-4881-B655-07503F7234AD@glenan.plus.com> Message-ID: <7FAC86E0-F9C6-41FC-A3B0-DDA30BFE2C6A@earthlink.net> I seem to have solved the client/server network problems but he printing still doesn't work. Thanks for all yr suggestions. Two of them were very helpful. As far as I can deduce the problem IS the printer driver. Tho Canon makes good USB drivers for the i560 for both platforms, almost none of their USB printers have drivers that allow them to be used over a IP network. And further they've written them in such a way that they can't be easily modified to do the job. Apparently I need a CUPS driver to make this work. I've not been able to find one that is specific to the i560, tho many others are available at SourceForge.org. If one written for another inkjet printer would work I don't know how I'd ever find it except for trial and error. So at this point I guess I wait till a driver appears or my next printer investment. Till then I guess we continue with moving the USB connection whenever we want to print with one of the computers. It's a pain. John From jessup at san.rr.com Mon Dec 4 05:31:24 2006 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Mon Dec 4 05:33:59 2006 Subject: [X4U] Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 THE Problem defined! In-Reply-To: <7FAC86E0-F9C6-41FC-A3B0-DDA30BFE2C6A@earthlink.net> References: <59F178AE-5435-4114-ACDD-F9CFA22F6FFF@earthlink.net> <4A3B3F6F-BE49-4881-B655-07503F7234AD@glenan.plus.com> <7FAC86E0-F9C6-41FC-A3B0-DDA30BFE2C6A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: At 7:26 AM -0500 4/12/06, John Erdman wrote: >I seem to have solved the client/server network problems but he >printing still doesn't work. Thanks for all yr suggestions. Two of >them were very helpful. > >As far as I can deduce the problem IS the printer driver. Tho Canon >makes good USB drivers for the i560 for both platforms, almost none >of their USB printers have drivers that allow them to be used over a >IP network. And further they've written them in such a way that they >can't be easily modified to do the job. > >Apparently I need a CUPS driver to make this work. I've not been >able to find one that is specific to the i560, tho many others are >available at SourceForge.org. If one written for another inkjet >printer would work I don't know how I'd ever find it except for >trial and error. I wish I could remember exactly what I did to make shared printing work on a Windows machine. I do know that it involved a mixed Mac/PC network getting internet from a Linksys wireless router. I plugged an Airport Base Station (Extreme) into the Linksys and a USB printer into the USB port of the Base Station. On a Mac, I used the Airport Setup Assistant to make the Airport Base Station join the Lindasys nework. Then on the Mac I created a Bonjour printer. On the PC I got it to find the wireless network, then created a new printer with a standard local TCP/IP port, giving it the IP address that the Linksys was giving to the Airport Base Station. I created the printer on that port (this was an Epson printer). I realized later that I hadn't needed to wire the Base Station to the Linksys. Over the phone I had the client unplug the Base Station from the Linksys, and it continued to work for both PC and Mac. I believe the keys were: having a USB port on the Base Station for the printer, and making a local TCP/IP port on the Windows XP machine, and creating the printer on that port. Here are instructions (I haven't tried it this way) for printing from Windows to a USB printer connected to a Mac. It may be old, but also maybe there's a hint there that you can use: Daly ---------------------- From winter at mac.com Mon Dec 4 06:22:06 2006 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Mon Dec 4 06:20:45 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> Message-ID: <2C7BF93C-8A81-4503-B1F3-78898AC525EE@mac.com> On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:02 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > > On 4 Dec 2006, at 10:16, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > >> On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Simon Forster wrote: >> >>> I was an early adopter of iTunes and bought a couple of tracks >>> from the store almost as soon as it was launched. Quite quickly I >>> lost the tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) and >>> so I decided not to buy DRMed tracks. More recently I bought an >>> album from iTunes - which has gone too as I swapped machines around. >> >> In other words, you didn't back up your files...? :-) > > Actually, no. At which point you've lost the file wether its DRM'd or not. > Now think tracks I can't access. Why keep them? Because all you have to do is authorize the new computer. If that's too much of a hassle, then the iTMS isn't for you. I just don't think its fair to blame Apple for the loss of those tracks. As I said, if they were purchased and downloaded with no DRM and you failed to back them up, they're gone just as surely. -Mike From jwarms at mac.com Mon Dec 4 06:47:19 2006 From: jwarms at mac.com (Jon Warms) Date: Mon Dec 4 06:47:46 2006 Subject: [X4U] Getting Closer Network printing WinXP to OS 10.4.8 In-Reply-To: <20061204100552.CD26B528439@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061204100552.CD26B528439@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <93352F1F-8A13-42FC-A10B-DC41DFE9E3DA@mac.com> Your solution may not be another driver. In my case, the next problem on CarlyPrint was a question of fonts. If I recall (again), I had to try several of the font settings until one just worked. The issue for me seemed to be that the XP print dialog has different (or just more) options than on the Mac. CarlyPrint is a Brother HL-2040 printer with a GIMP driver on the Mac. When I ran the Add Printer wizard on the Windows system, it found a driver that was already in the machine. Jon On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 20:44:17 -0500, John Erdman wrote: > Whoooohooooooo! > > Both Jon (Carlyprint) and Phil(Bonjour) suggestions worked! I now > have the Canon i560 printer on the XP's printer list by both methods. > > > But neither one works yet! > > I can send off a print job. It looks like it's going but nothing > happens at the printer. Checking on the print queue I find that the > job appear on the completed list. I suspect a driver problem. I > have the Canon i560 drivers on both machines. They both work fine > when I have the USB connected directly to the machines. I sorta > recall that I have to use a different driver to use it over the > network. I'll start looking for a useful driver on my own but if you > have a suggestion let 'er fly. From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Dec 4 07:09:09 2006 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Dec 4 07:09:15 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <2C7BF93C-8A81-4503-B1F3-78898AC525EE@mac.com> References: <60972311-2589-4E08-B130-379FB15BA55D@optonline.net> <95CD638B-FE9D-4E6B-867B-A4929BE0BDB0@ldml.com> <2C7BF93C-8A81-4503-B1F3-78898AC525EE@mac.com> Message-ID: <1BCAAB61-6AAA-4469-A471-E0BA0152FD94@ldml.com> On 4 Dec 2006, at 14:22, Michael Winter wrote: > On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:02 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > >> On 4 Dec 2006, at 10:16, Kirk McElhearn wrote: >> >>> On Dec 4, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Simon Forster wrote: >>> >>>> I was an early adopter of iTunes and bought a couple of tracks >>>> from the store almost as soon as it was launched. Quite quickly >>>> I lost the tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) >>>> and so I decided not to buy DRMed tracks. More recently I bought >>>> an album from iTunes - which has gone too as I swapped machines >>>> around. >>> >>> In other words, you didn't back up your files...? :-) >> >> Actually, no. > > At which point you've lost the file wether its DRM'd or not. You're mis-reading and mis-quoting what I said: "Actually, no. It's simply that I tend to use the move from one machine to another (or a hard drive upgrade) as an excuse to do some spring cleaning. I copy across the stuff I need and then make some form of archive copy of the old data so that if I need something in the future, I can go get it." I was replying in the negative to Kirk's assertion that I "didn't back up" my files - although to be fair, re-reading the post it's not 100% clear. Double negatives and all that I guess. >> Now think tracks I can't access. Why keep them? > > Because all you have to do is authorize the new computer. If that's > too much of a hassle, then the iTMS isn't for you. I just don't > think its fair to blame Apple for the loss of those tracks. As I > said, if they were purchased and downloaded with no DRM and you > failed to back them up, they're gone just as surely. Again, no. iTunes was telling me that I couldn't authorise the tracks on the newest computer as I'd already authorised on 5 computers previously. At the time, I didn't know about de-authorising computers. So shoot me. I will agree that iTunes music store is not for me. It sells music at a questionable bit rate with DRM which detracts from my ease of use while offering little in return. My opinion of course. Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________ From mprevost at dot4.com Mon Dec 4 07:55:43 2006 From: mprevost at dot4.com (Michael J. Prevost) Date: Mon Dec 4 07:55:53 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <20061204100552.CD26B528439@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061204100552.CD26B528439@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >Per Apple, the simple solution is to de-authorize all. My questions >are: If I do that, do all the iTunes downloads also get rendered >unplayable even after I reauthorize the machine to which they've been >downloaded? And if so, is there any alternative to a mass de- >authorization? > >Thanks, > >Mitchell Since authorization to play your DRM protected tracks are ultimately flows from your Apple iTunes account, choosing to deauthorize all computers is not a problem or risk (I've done it a bunch of times myself). Once all machines have been deauthorized, each machine that attempts to play a DRM track for the first time will seek authorization with Apple's servers. If your account is under the 5 machine limit, authorization is granted. Fast and nearly transparent. Mike -- Michael J. Prevost Dot4, Inc. Voice: 978-392-8860 x10 Fax: 978-392-8861 mprevost@dot4.com http://www.dot4.com From jmarett at mac.com Mon Dec 4 08:18:39 2006 From: jmarett at mac.com (Jon Marett) Date: Mon Dec 4 08:19:34 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: References: <20061204100552.CD26B528439@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <595C44D0-6611-4221-85F5-A42040764CC7@mac.com> On Dec 4, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Michael J. Prevost wrote: > Since authorization to play your DRM protected tracks are > ultimately flows from your Apple iTunes account, choosing to > deauthorize all computers is not a problem or risk (I've done it a > bunch of times myself). > > Once all machines have been deauthorized, each machine that > attempts to play a DRM track for the first time will seek > authorization with Apple's servers. If your account is under the 5 > machine limit, authorization is granted. Fast and nearly transparent. > > Mike Is there a way to deauthorize a computer I no longer have? Unfortunately I must have forgotten to deauthorize a couple of macs before getting rid of them way back when, so now I show 4 authorized computers while I only have 2 machines. Obviously it won't be a problem if I don't add more than one machine and remember to deauthorize all my machines in the future, but I would like to clean this up. jon ________________________ "Be the change that you want to see in the world." -Mohandas Gandhi From jeepxj97 at durango.net Mon Dec 4 08:35:03 2006 From: jeepxj97 at durango.net (Robb McDonald) Date: Mon Dec 4 08:35:01 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <595C44D0-6611-4221-85F5-A42040764CC7@mac.com> Message-ID: How about using a program like this? DRMDumpster http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/31238 I haven't tried it but sounds like it might be what you are looking for. > On Dec 4, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Michael J. Prevost wrote: > >> Since authorization to play your DRM protected tracks are >> ultimately flows from your Apple iTunes account, choosing to >> deauthorize all computers is not a problem or risk (I've done it a >> bunch of times myself). >> >> Once all machines have been deauthorized, each machine that >> attempts to play a DRM track for the first time will seek >> authorization with Apple's servers. If your account is under the 5 >> machine limit, authorization is granted. Fast and nearly transparent. >> >> Mike > > Is there a way to deauthorize a computer I no longer have? > Unfortunately I must have forgotten to deauthorize a couple of macs > before getting rid of them way back when, so now I show 4 authorized > computers while I only have 2 machines. Obviously it won't be a > problem if I don't add more than one machine and remember to > deauthorize all my machines in the future, but I would like to clean > this up. > > > jon > > ________________________ > "Be the change that you want to see in the world." > -Mohandas Gandhi > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Dec 4 08:36:07 2006 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Dec 4 08:36:20 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/4/06 4:05 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > Quite quickly I lost the > tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) The idea, right or wrong, is that they *will* play on your iPod, if you have one. You do not have to authorize your iPod, it can play any tracks from the iTMS. Also, the tracks in your computer's backup will also play on your computer once you've authorized that computer to your account. On paper, with good backups, nothing is ever "lost". (There are, of course, lots of places where this theory falls apart, but if you perform good, regular backups, in theory you should never lose even one byte of data.) Seriously, though, who among us has backups *that* good? ~Linda (who just, upon reading this thread, realizes that she wiped a hard disk yesterday to prepare the computer for sale on eBay and didn't deauthorize it first... crap...) From kirkmc at mac.com Mon Dec 4 08:42:55 2006 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Mon Dec 4 08:43:09 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Linda wrote: > Seriously, though, who among us has backups *that* good? I back up everything twice... > > ~Linda (who just, upon reading this thread, realizes that she wiped > a hard > disk yesterday to prepare the computer for sale on eBay and didn't > deauthorize it first... crap...) Have a look at this article: http://www.macworld.com/2006/05/secrets/securitytips/index2.php What to do before you give away a Mac: 3 things you should do to protect your data Kirk Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Dec 4 08:51:25 2006 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Dec 4 08:53:34 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <739D7EA2-E517-4915-8773-D678B747D4D6@ldml.com> On 4 Dec 2006, at 16:36, Linda wrote: > ~Linda (who just, upon reading this thread, realizes that she wiped > a hard > disk yesterday to prepare the computer for sale on eBay and didn't > deauthorize it first... crap...) You can "de-authorize" all (Store -> View My Account) and then re- authorise on each computer you want to play tracks on. I didn't know that before this threaded started up - and it looks like I'm not alone. Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________ From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Dec 4 08:56:21 2006 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Dec 4 08:56:26 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1FB0A3AB-E360-4FA3-AF62-6D667CC4F76F@ldml.com> On 4 Dec 2006, at 16:42, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Linda wrote: > >> Seriously, though, who among us has backups *that* good? > > I back up everything twice... Still doesn't protect you from stupidity (see _my_ earlier emails ;-) What's your backup strategy? Daily back-ups to tapes, one for each day of the week. One weekly copy stored off site. Monthly archives? Work. Must do work. Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________ From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Dec 4 08:55:05 2006 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Dec 4 09:01:42 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/4/06 10:42 AM, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > What to do before you give away a Mac: 3 things you should do to > protect your data Yep, did 2 and 3 -- just forgot about deauthorizing iTunes. Many thanks to Michael, with the definitive answer on "deauthorize all" and then the reauthorization process. ~Linda From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Dec 4 09:02:40 2006 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Dec 4 09:02:44 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <739D7EA2-E517-4915-8773-D678B747D4D6@ldml.com> Message-ID: On 12/4/06 10:51 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > I didn't know that before this threaded started up - and it looks > like I'm not alone. I did know, I just forgot; my "crap" is knowing that when I deauthorize all, I'll have to drive six hours to reauthorize my Ma's computer. She's not real savvy and if she sits down to listen to her music, and it doesn't play, she's liable to call city hall to tell them that someone has been stealing things off her computer. Oops. From jmarett at mac.com Mon Dec 4 09:05:45 2006 From: jmarett at mac.com (Jon Marett) Date: Mon Dec 4 09:05:55 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <739D7EA2-E517-4915-8773-D678B747D4D6@ldml.com> References: <739D7EA2-E517-4915-8773-D678B747D4D6@ldml.com> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > You can "de-authorize" all (Store -> View My Account) and then re- > authorise on each computer you want to play tracks on. I don't see this option, but maybe it only appears when you reach the 5 computer limit? jon ________________________ "Content makes poor men rich; discontentment makes rich men poor." -Benjamin Franklin From mac.k at a2k.ch Mon Dec 4 09:16:25 2006 From: mac.k at a2k.ch (alexandre) Date: Mon Dec 4 09:16:44 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: References: <739D7EA2-E517-4915-8773-D678B747D4D6@ldml.com> Message-ID: <397237EE-CC49-4050-A7E5-19E760648118@a2k.ch> On 4 d?c. 06, at 18:05, Jon Marett wrote: > On Dec 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Simon Forster wrote: > >> You can "de-authorize" all (Store -> View My Account) and then re- >> authorise on each computer you want to play tracks on. > > I don't see this option, but maybe it only appears when you reach > the 5 computer limit? > > jon > i don't see it either? alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.8 :: From mprevost at dot4.com Mon Dec 4 09:17:05 2006 From: mprevost at dot4.com (Michael J. Prevost) Date: Mon Dec 4 09:17:16 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <20061204170146.D11C452DA4C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061204170146.D11C452DA4C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >On Dec 4, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Michael J. Prevost wrote: > > > Since authorization to play your DRM protected tracks are > > ultimately flows from your Apple iTunes account, choosing to > > deauthorize all computers is not a problem or risk (I've done it a > > bunch of times myself). > > > > Once all machines have been deauthorized, each machine that > > attempts to play a DRM track for the first time will seek > > authorization with Apple's servers. If your account is under the 5 > > machine limit, authorization is granted. Fast and nearly transparent. > > > > Mike > >Is there a way to deauthorize a computer I no longer have? >Unfortunately I must have forgotten to deauthorize a couple of macs >before getting rid of them way back when, so now I show 4 authorized >computers while I only have 2 machines. Obviously it won't be a >problem if I don't add more than one machine and remember to >deauthorize all my machines in the future, but I would like to clean >this up. > > >jon Apple finally added on recent versions of iTunes the ability to deauthorize the computer you are currently work from (see iTunes Advanced menu), but I have not seen anywhere the ability to deauthorize a computer if you are not using it at the moment (e.g. directly edit the list of 5 computers). The only option I see for computers no longer in your possession would be to deauthorize all and let each active computer get authorized in due course. Since it's an easy process, it's really not a burden. Best, Mike -- Michael J. Prevost Dot4, Inc. Voice: 978-392-8860 x10 Fax: 978-392-8861 mprevost@dot4.com http://www.dot4.com From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Mon Dec 4 03:17:52 2006 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Mon Dec 4 09:29:10 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <20061204100553.4BD1352843A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061204100553.4BD1352843A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Simon Forster >On 4 Dec 2006, at 09:28, Mitchell Senft wrote: >> Once again having problems with reaching the 5 machine limit for >> authorization with iTunes. (ITunes downloads are limited to playing >> on 5 machines.) >> >I was an early adopter of iTunes and bought a couple of tracks from >the store almost as soon as it was launched. Quite quickly I lost the >tracks (laptop replacement, dying hard drives etc) and so I decided >not to buy DRMed tracks. More recently I bought an album from iTunes >- which has gone too as I swapped machines around. > >I cannot be bothered fighting with the software to use licensed >product - so I don't buy DRMed music. Old fashioned CDs work fine for >me. The few albums I've bought from iTunes I just burn to CD as a normal music CD as soon as I've got it. That way I can play it anywhere, make a copy for the car, and import it into iTunes on my desktop or laptop. No DRM problems. It's just another way of buying CDs. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. Chair of HPUX SysAdmin SIG of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From kirkmc at mac.com Mon Dec 4 10:11:41 2006 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Mon Dec 4 10:14:16 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: <1FB0A3AB-E360-4FA3-AF62-6D667CC4F76F@ldml.com> References: <1FB0A3AB-E360-4FA3-AF62-6D667CC4F76F@ldml.com> Message-ID: <25A77D32-E35F-4B60-8900-F3D350D19FB4@mac.com> On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Simon Forster wrote: > What's your backup strategy? Daily back-ups to tapes, one for each > day of the week. One weekly copy stored off site. Monthly archives? For work files, I do multiple backups to external hard disks and to an iPod whose battery is otherwise dead. For other stuff, such as music, just to external hard disks. I've got lots of hard disks, and have never yet lost files because of these backups. I also do occasional CD/DVD backups of work files, and back up some really important stuff to my iDisk. Kirk Co-author of: Mastering Mac OS X - Tiger Edition http://www.mcelhearn.com/tiger.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From frederick at jersey.net Mon Dec 4 11:30:16 2006 From: frederick at jersey.net (Barbara Frederick) Date: Mon Dec 4 11:38:39 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions Message-ID: I have a few questions about the iPod. My son has been complaining that he can't play songs that he downloaded from iTunes on his GPS thingie. (Can't remember the brand, but it is PC oriented.) Yes, he has both a work PC and an old Mac, the Lombard Powerbook and iTunes 7 and a high speed connection. So I said that I would buy him an iPod for Christmas. He said the Nano would be good and my comment was why not the 80G iPod. His comment, " What would I do with it?" So I am asking what can he do with the original iPod that he can't do with the Nano? Stupid questions...yes! Barbara a true Luddite, who has just upgraded from a Walkman to a portable CD player. From Lists at mac.com Mon Dec 4 11:43:25 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Mon Dec 4 11:43:32 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/4/06 2:30 PM, Barbara Frederick wrote: > So I said that I would buy him an iPod for Christmas. He said the Nano > would be good and my comment was why not the 80G iPod. His comment, " > What would I do with it?" So I am asking what can he do with the > original iPod that he can't do with the Nano? Stupid questions...yes! The fifth generation iPod can play videos, including music videos, TV shows, and movies you buy from the iTunes store and other content you download from the internet or capture using a TV tuner device like EyeTV from Elgato. From macmonster at myrealbox.com Mon Dec 4 13:03:34 2006 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Mon Dec 4 13:03:43 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 4 Dec 2006, at 19:30, Barbara Frederick wrote: > ... My son has been complaining that he can't play songs that he > downloaded from iTunes on his GPS thingie. Since Mr Forster has family responsibilities which prevent him flaming after 6pm I guess it had better be I who points out that if your son just bought the albums on CD and ripped them to MP3 in iTunes then he could listen to the songs on his current digital music player. Ummm... 8gb Nano or Nintendo Wii for Christmas? That's a difficult choice right there. Stroller. From Lists at mac.com Mon Dec 4 13:46:28 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Mon Dec 4 13:46:44 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/4/06 4:03 PM, Stroller wrote: > On 4 Dec 2006, at 19:30, Barbara Frederick wrote: >> ... My son has been complaining that he can't play songs that he >> downloaded from iTunes on his GPS thingie. > > Since Mr Forster has family responsibilities which prevent him > flaming after 6pm I guess it had better be I who points out that if > your son just bought the albums on CD and ripped them to MP3 in > iTunes then he could listen to the songs on his current digital music > player. Or, he could just strip the DRM off of the iTunes music and play them on any player he chooses. Or, he could play them on an iPod as is. So, he has several choices, but he can't go back and "unbuy" them from iTunes so he could buy them elsewhere. From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Dec 4 13:48:15 2006 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Dec 4 13:48:25 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36C4812E-4A7B-4F62-A175-497534444E26@ldml.com> On 4 Dec 2006, at 21:03, Stroller wrote: > Since Mr Forster has family responsibilities which prevent him > flaming after 6pm Tsk. Family responsibilities can be put to bed at around 8:00pm (only for them to come back at you at 4:00am!). > Ummm... 8gb Nano or Nintendo Wii for Christmas? That's a difficult > choice right there. Got to be the Wii no? Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________ From rgilmor at uwo.ca Mon Dec 4 13:56:29 2006 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Mon Dec 4 13:55:08 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is the DRM removable? On 4/12/06 4:46 PM, "Neil" wrote: > > Or, he could just strip the DRM off of the iTunes music and play them on any > player he chooses. Or, he could play them on an iPod as is. So, he has > several choices, but he can't go back and "unbuy" them from iTunes so he > could buy them elsewhere. > > From mprevost at dot4.com Mon Dec 4 14:28:17 2006 From: mprevost at dot4.com (Michael J. Prevost) Date: Mon Dec 4 14:28:25 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iPod Questions In-Reply-To: <20061204214826.A81B1531B18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061204214826.A81B1531B18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Barbara Frederick >Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions > >I have a few questions about the iPod. My son has been complaining >that he can't play songs that he downloaded from iTunes on his GPS >thingie. (Can't remember the brand, but it is PC oriented.) Yes, he >has both a work PC and an old Mac, the Lombard Powerbook and iTunes 7 >and a high speed connection. Barbara, in case you haven't already received this explanation... Apple uses a protection scheme with the music and video they offer on the iTunes Music Store. Referred to as Digital Rights Management (DRM) software. Only iPods (and the iTunes application on your Mac or PC) have the ability to unlock and play music or video legally. As others have noted, there are ways to remove this protection scheme. >So I said that I would buy him an iPod for Christmas. He said the Nano >would be good and my comment was why not the 80G iPod. His comment, " >What would I do with it?" So I am asking what can he do with the >original iPod that he can't do with the Nano? Stupid questions...yes! These are not stupid questions at all. Like shopping for a car, the first question is "how are you going to use the thing". The Nanos are small, light, colorful, stylish, long play on each charge of the battery. The Video iPods (30GB and 80GB) play video, have larger screens, and hold much more music/video than the Nano's. For example, the video capability isn't a high priority for me, but I would **love** to be able to hold my entire music library on my iPod if possible, so I opted for the 60GB (about 18 months ago). Since I use the highest encoding method (ie creates big files), I can only hold half of my music at any one time (sigh). I'm waiting for a 120GB model before upgrading again. Since you have already offered to get him the 80GB model, I'll assume that the cost difference is not a factor. So, figure out the answers to these questions... Does you son have lots of CDs and/or digital music already? Say 200 CDs worth or more? Is holding all of his music on the iPod at once important to him? Does he want a small 'pod? Does he want a more stylish/colorful iPod? Will he want to watch TV shows and other video on his 'pod? Answer those questions and you have your iPod choice. >Barbara a true Luddite, who has just upgraded from a Walkman to a >portable CD player. Well I know this guy who still swears by his 8-Track tapes ... ;-) Mike -- Michael J. Prevost Dot4, Inc. Voice: 978-392-8860 x10 Fax: 978-392-8861 mprevost@dot4.com http://www.dot4.com From meged at earthlink.net Mon Dec 4 14:41:33 2006 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Mon Dec 4 14:41:44 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/4/06 11:30 AM, Barbara Frederick wrote: > So I said that I would buy him an iPod for Christmas. He said the Nano > would be good and my comment was why not the 80G iPod. He's willing to accept a $150-$250 model and you're asking why you shouldn't spend $350? > What would I do with it?" So I am asking what can he do with the > original iPod that he can't do with the Nano? Stupid questions...yes! The original iPod has a larger screen (so you can see the name of the album when a song is playing, for example) and supports the playback of video content. It also holds 7-10 times as many songs as a nano. -- Eddie Hargreaves From Lists at mac.com Mon Dec 4 15:41:39 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Mon Dec 4 15:41:54 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/4/06 4:56 PM, Richard Gilmore wrote: > Is the DRM removable? Yes, there are a couple programs that do this. Try searching Version Tracker for "FairPlay" That should bring them up. From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Mon Dec 4 16:09:52 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Mon Dec 4 16:10:28 2006 Subject: [X4U] Apple Bluetooth Mice not connecting properly to 15" AlBook Message-ID: Hi all, At work I use an Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard connected to my 15" AlBook running 10.4.6. It has been working great for me for quite some time. But in trying to connect a second spare Apple Bluetooth mouse at home all I get is the ability to click but the cursor won't move. I thought that perhaps I was getting some sort of freaky interference at home so I went back to work and I tried connecting it there but no luck. I even tried a few other Bluetooth mice kicking around and all have the same reaction - no movement but clicks OK. The mouse I was originally using fine at work still worked properly though. I then mistakenly used the Bluetooth Explorer app from the Developer installer to completely empty my Bluetooth connection history list (including the current connections) and now I can't get any mice to work properly after connecting - just clicking works. The setup assistant reports that pairing with each of the mice I tested went OK. Connecting the Apple Bluetooth keyboard again went smoothly so the issue is just with mice. I also tried deleting the com.apple.bluetooth.Plist file and rebooted.... no luck. Full shutdown and zapping of PRAM has had no effect. The easy suggestion is to upgrade to 10.4.8 and see if that helps but I've been hesitant to go to 10.4.8 yet. Your suggestions are most appreciated! Cheers, Coj From lstnmt at bresnan.net Mon Dec 4 17:34:54 2006 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Mon Dec 4 17:35:02 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice Message-ID: <89F38C4C-BA0D-42B0-B5A5-6E3C877512AD@bresnan.net> I am about to order a new Mac and am wondering about whether I would be better served by getting 2 gigs of memory and the 2.0 GHz processor or alternatively getting 1 gig of memory and the 2.66 GHz processor. I do a lot of photoshop work so I am thinking more memory might be better, but on the other hand adding memory latter on might be easier than upgrading the processors. My current system is a G4 933 so I am sure photoshop even run in the rosetta layer will be comparable to what I am used to at the moment. Any thoughts, Jens From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Mon Dec 4 17:48:42 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Mon Dec 4 17:49:17 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: <89F38C4C-BA0D-42B0-B5A5-6E3C877512AD@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Hiya Jens, It can depend on the size of Photoshop work you plan on doing, for example, web work won't tax Photoshop's memory too much as the files are usually quite small but large multi-layered poster work exponentially grows in file size requirements. I did some extensive Photoshop research on this a while back and found that if money is an issue then you are MUCH better off buying the next model down from the latest-&-greatest and putting the savings into more RAM. In fact I was able to more than DOUBLE the test speed results with going from 512K RAM on a G4 system to 2GB - BTW when I was testing 512K was an acceptable amount. But if you think you can throw more money at RAM later (depending on how much later tho) getting the faster machine will be the better long-term option. Hope that helps. Cheers, Cojcolds Jens Selvig Sent by: x4u-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 05/12/06 12:34 PM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." To "A casual user. place to discuss Mac OS X for the" cc Subject [X4U] Macpro processor choice I am about to order a new Mac and am wondering about whether I would be better served by getting 2 gigs of memory and the 2.0 GHz processor or alternatively getting 1 gig of memory and the 2.66 GHz processor. I do a lot of photoshop work so I am thinking more memory might be better, but on the other hand adding memory latter on might be easier than upgrading the processors. My current system is a G4 933 so I am sure photoshop even run in the rosetta layer will be comparable to what I am used to at the moment. Any thoughts, Jens From Lists at mac.com Mon Dec 4 18:39:54 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Mon Dec 4 18:40:11 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/4/06 8:48 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > BTW when I was testing 512K > was an acceptable amount. LMAO Were you testing back in 1984? Could you mean 512 MEGS not K? From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Mon Dec 4 18:44:34 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Mon Dec 4 18:45:02 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd like to call it a Seniour moment but I don't quite think I fall under that category yet so I'll just have to put it down to plain stupidity, D'oh! Yes, MB, MB, MB, MB (slapping palm on forehead with each incantation) Cheers, Coj Neil Sent by: x4u-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 05/12/06 01:39 PM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." To X4U cc Subject Re: [X4U] Macpro processor choice on 12/4/06 8:48 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > BTW when I was testing 512K > was an acceptable amount. LMAO Were you testing back in 1984? Could you mean 512 MEGS not K? _______________________________________________ X4U mailing list X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From maclist at analogdigital.com.au Mon Dec 4 19:27:16 2006 From: maclist at analogdigital.com.au (Christopher J Collins) Date: Mon Dec 4 19:27:22 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice References: <89F38C4C-BA0D-42B0-B5A5-6E3C877512AD@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <04d701c7181d$45f4fc70$0c01a8c0@ADSnx9420> Processors are usually the harder and more costly option to change once you have bought the computer, especially in laptops. This is true in both the Mac and PC worlds. RAM is much easier to change and usually more cost effective. If possible, try to spec the machine so you don't have to throw away the existing memory when you upgrade. eg: get 1 * 1GB instead of 2 * 512MB, even if it is slightly more costly. That way you only need to add one memory module. Regards, Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jens Selvig" To: "A casual user. place to discuss Mac OS X for the" Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice >I am about to order a new Mac and am wondering about whether I would be >better served by getting 2 gigs of memory and the 2.0 GHz processor or >alternatively getting 1 gig of memory and the 2.66 GHz processor. > > I do a lot of photoshop work so I am thinking more memory might be > better, but on the other hand adding memory latter on might be easier > than upgrading the processors. My current system is a G4 933 so I am sure > photoshop even run in the rosetta layer will be comparable to what I am > used to at the moment. > > Any thoughts, > > Jens > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jessup at san.rr.com Mon Dec 4 19:20:10 2006 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Mon Dec 4 19:39:40 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: <89F38C4C-BA0D-42B0-B5A5-6E3C877512AD@bresnan.net> References: <89F38C4C-BA0D-42B0-B5A5-6E3C877512AD@bresnan.net> Message-ID: At 6:34 PM -0700 4/12/06, Jens Selvig wrote: >I am about to order a new Mac and am wondering about whether I would >be better served by getting 2 gigs of memory and the 2.0 GHz >processor or alternatively getting 1 gig of memory and the 2.66 GHz >processor. > >I do a lot of photoshop work so I am thinking more memory might be >better, but on the other hand adding memory latter on might be >easier than upgrading the processors. My current system is a G4 933 >so I am sure photoshop even run in the rosetta layer will be >comparable to what I am used to at the moment. I don't have all the research under my belt, but experience as a consultant leads me to suggest that when the difference in speed of the computer is that little, you are always better off getting more RAM rather than a marginally faster computer. (IF you have to choose between one or the other.) Daly ---------------------- From lstnmt at bresnan.net Mon Dec 4 20:22:49 2006 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Mon Dec 4 20:22:57 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: References: <89F38C4C-BA0D-42B0-B5A5-6E3C877512AD@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Thanks to all for your thoughts. My current G4 has 1.5 gigs of RAM. At this point I am thinking about going for the extra RAM. The Mac Pro has 8 ram slots so the listed configuration from Apple is to use 4 of those for the 2 gig model. That leaves 4 empty slots. I am thinking when CS3 hits the machine I'll get a big bounce in efficiency. Currently I work on files that range from 20 megs to 100 megs. Jens On Dec 4, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Daly Jessup wrote: > At 6:34 PM -0700 4/12/06, Jens Selvig wrote: >> I am about to order a new Mac and am wondering about whether I >> would be better served by getting 2 gigs of memory and the 2.0 GHz >> processor or alternatively getting 1 gig of memory and the 2.66 >> GHz processor. >> >> I do a lot of photoshop work so I am thinking more memory might be >> better, but on the other hand adding memory latter on might be >> easier than upgrading the processors. My current system is a G4 >> 933 so I am sure photoshop even run in the rosetta layer will be >> comparable to what I am used to at the moment. > > I don't have all the research under my belt, but experience as a > consultant leads me to suggest that when the difference in speed of > the computer is that little, you are always better off getting more > RAM rather than a marginally faster computer. (IF you have to > choose between one or the other.) > > Daly > ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Mon Dec 4 20:37:43 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Mon Dec 4 20:38:12 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is that 20 to 100MB files "saved" or when "open" in Photoshop? Either way they are kinda small files but a 100MB file can easily be hundreds of MB in RAM/scratch when it is highly layered. Do you have many open at the same time? Perhaps the 2GB model might be adequate for your needs. We work on very large files here (scratch sizes are sometimes between 2 and 3GB in size so lotsa RAM really helps us). Cheers, Coj Jens Selvig Sent by: x4u-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 05/12/06 03:22 PM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." To "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." cc Subject Re: [X4U] Macpro processor choice Thanks to all for your thoughts. My current G4 has 1.5 gigs of RAM. At this point I am thinking about going for the extra RAM. The Mac Pro has 8 ram slots so the listed configuration from Apple is to use 4 of those for the 2 gig model. That leaves 4 empty slots. I am thinking when CS3 hits the machine I'll get a big bounce in efficiency. Currently I work on files that range from 20 megs to 100 megs. Jens From earle.jones at comcast.net Mon Dec 4 21:06:50 2006 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Mon Dec 4 21:07:01 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92375562-6513-4D26-AF22-00D6593004F8@comcast.net> On Dec 4, 2006, at 6:44 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > I'd like to call it a Seniour moment but I don't quite think I fall > under > that category yet so I'll just have to put it down to plain stupidity, > D'oh! > > Yes, MB, MB, MB, MB (slapping palm on forehead with each incantation) > > Cheers, > > Coj * Don't feel badly. My first Apple product was the Apple ][, which I gave my daughter for her 12th birthday in May of 1980. (NOTE: She is now 38.) I splurged and got the top of the line, which had 64kb RAM -- (note: not 64MB). This machine used an audio tape system (not included) to load programs -- no floppy disk was yet available. It had a Channel 3 modulator which allowed us to use our TV as a display. We had the integer basic version, which was good for game development. Being a hotshot engineer, I bought a CPM card with the AppleSoft basic ROMS, then swapped out the integer Basic ROMs for the AppleSoft ROMs, which added something like another 64k RAM and left me with this powerful machine -- 128k RAM! And so, in 1980, with an investment of something like $4,000, we were doing floating-point programs, running Visi-Calc, playing Raster Blaster, and all sorts of good things. I worked at SRI (formerly Stanford Research Institute) in Menlo Park, CA, which was one of the first two nodes on the ARPA Net (later to become the Internet). My first email account was in 1975, using a program called IMail, developed by BBN of Boston. Today I have about 750 GB of Hard Disk and 2GB of RAM in a 1.8GHz Intel iMac. Times have changed! earle * From robertmacleay at mac.com Mon Dec 4 22:15:06 2006 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Mon Dec 4 22:15:18 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: <20061205032721.EA0C6536838@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: When I made my own choice a month ago, I opted for the 2 GB solution, and it turned out best for me. My memory monitor currently shows me actively using 1.4 GB of RAM (with .515 of that allocated to Photoshop). The remainder of the memory is in use but "inactive," and the total VM is a whopping 13. GB -- I also have ten major programs and a half dozen utilities runnning at the same time... Safari is claiming 237 MB real/638 virtual(!) and the various OS tasks total about 360 MB real. As someone who uses Photoshop mostly for web work, I am hardly stressing the system. I will have several photos from a 6 MP digital camera open at once while working on them as a set. This is a far cry from someone retouching drum scans for a magazine cover. So what are your work habits? Do you run one and only one program at a time, or are you like me, constantly switching between Photoshop and a couple of other productivity programs, with two email programs and three browsers running in the background? Not having enough RAM means waiting for the system to swap memory between RAM and the hard disk every time you drop out of Indesign/GoLive/Dreamweaver to fix another image in Photoshop. Not to mention stopping to read all those wonderful offers I receive via email every day... On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:34:54 -0700, Jens Selvig wrote: > I am about to order a new Mac and am wondering about whether I would > be better served by getting 2 gigs of memory and the 2.0 GHz > processor or alternatively getting 1 gig of memory and the 2.66 GHz > processor. > > I do a lot of photoshop work... From kurt.hindenburg at gmail.com Mon Dec 4 22:39:59 2006 From: kurt.hindenburg at gmail.com (Kurt Hindenburg) Date: Mon Dec 4 22:40:09 2006 Subject: [X4U] iLife 07? Message-ID: <3eb00e9b0612042239w398e98a3t7bc4b9a9f153108e@mail.gmail.com> Hello, When does the new iLife 07 come out? Is it worth buying 06 this late in the year? I'm on a G4 PPC Tiger if that matters. Thanks, Kurt From kirkmc at mac.com Tue Dec 5 00:19:12 2006 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Tue Dec 5 00:19:26 2006 Subject: [X4U] iLife 07? In-Reply-To: <3eb00e9b0612042239w398e98a3t7bc4b9a9f153108e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3eb00e9b0612042239w398e98a3t7bc4b9a9f153108e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <680F2D30-293B-4966-AF41-D06935814719@mac.com> On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Kurt Hindenburg wrote: > When does the new iLife 07 come out? Is it worth buying 06 this > late in the year? I'm on a G4 PPC Tiger if that matters. No, don't buy now - it generally comes out at the Macworld SF expo, which is early January. Kirk Co-author of: Mastering Mac OS X - Tiger Edition http://www.mcelhearn.com/tiger.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From mac.k at a2k.ch Tue Dec 5 00:41:33 2006 From: mac.k at a2k.ch (alexandre) Date: Tue Dec 5 00:41:35 2006 Subject: [X4U] Macpro processor choice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60B80689-A746-466E-865A-56DC42F2656A@a2k.ch> hi i remember reading on macworld.com (i think?) that getting the standard macpro (2.66), adding a second 250gb drive and setting both drives in a raid configuration boosts the speed dramatically. macworld: "To see what kind of performance boost we?d get from this type of setup, we connected two 250GB drives in a RAID 0, installed OS X, and ran some of our standard tests on it. And the results were impressive, to say the least. Adding just one drive (available for $90 or less online) gave us a lot more bang for our buck than the $800 processor upgrade available from Apple. A 2.66GHz Mac Pro with a striped array was just 5 percent slower than a 3GHz Mac Pro without the striped RAID" not bd i would say? the complete article: http://www.macworld.com/2006/10/features/ macprohd/index.php alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.8 :: From mark at astroprinting.com Tue Dec 5 05:36:13 2006 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Tue Dec 5 05:37:54 2006 Subject: [X4U] # of e-mails in mailbox Message-ID: <78528479-9A1A-4416-8A00-F2E1E6BCBB51@astroprinting.com> Using Mail 2.1 under OS 10.4.8. I have filters set up to place incoming messages into different mailboxes depending on the sender. For example, all messages from this list are automatically moved to my "OS X Users" mailbox. When I click on this mailbox, the name at the top of the window changes to "OS X Users ? On My Mac (8889 messages, 28 unread)" Which is what I want to see (tells me I need to clean out this mailbox). But I have another mailbox where messages from another e-mail list are placed that doesn't tell me how many messages are in it. All I get is "Quark List ? On My Mac" How can I find out how many messages are in that mailbox? It seems to be the only one of about 40 mailboxes that doesn't display the quantity info. I've tried Rebuild from the Mailbox menu but nothing happened. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com From Lists at mac.com Tue Dec 5 06:46:32 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Tue Dec 5 06:48:25 2006 Subject: [X4U] OT: Lacie 1TB RAID Ext FW Drive Message-ID: I have a Lacie 1TB RAID external FireWire drive. It has four hard drives, 250gig each. Would it be possible for me to swap out the drives for larger ones, say 750gig, to have a 3gig RAID? Is it that simple? The 3gig and 4gig RAID drives that I have seen are at least a few thousand dollars each. Thanks. From ayon2 at sc.rr.com Tue Dec 5 07:24:15 2006 From: ayon2 at sc.rr.com (Andrew J. Yon III) Date: Tue Dec 5 07:24:23 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iPod Questions In-Reply-To: References: <20061204214826.A81B1531B18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2006, at 5:28 PM, Michael J. Prevost wrote: > Answer those questions and you have your iPod choice. > > >> Barbara a true Luddite, who has just upgraded from a Walkman to a >> portable CD player. > > > Well I know this guy who still swears by his 8-Track tapes ... ;-) > > Mike > > > -- Eight tracks. Lordy, I have to move up. When did they come out with those ? Mine only has 4 tracks. I love the magic of how the little wheel retracts up in there like a plane's landing gear though. Will OSX recognize eight tracks ? Andy3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20061205/24ef4abf/attachment-0001.html From randy at macattorney.com Tue Dec 5 10:08:12 2006 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B.Singer) Date: Tue Dec 5 10:11:07 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions Message-ID: <20061205181105.007F0541230@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Richard Gilmore said: >Is the DRM removable? Yes. You can do it with: Hymn (free and open source) http://hymn-project.org/ or DRM Dumpster (free, donation requested) http://www.burningthumb.com/drmdumpster.html The legality of doing so is always a topic for discussion. Under the Digital Rights Millennium Act in the U.S., http://www.arl.org/info/frn/copy/primer.html removing DRM of any kind is arguably illegal. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html From winter at mac.com Tue Dec 5 10:55:35 2006 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Tue Dec 5 10:54:04 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: <20061205181105.007F0541230@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061205181105.007F0541230@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Randy B.Singer wrote: > Richard Gilmore said: > >> Is the DRM removable? > > > Yes. You can do it with: > > Hymn (free and open source) > http://hymn-project.org/ When I click on the Documentation link, there's a big warning at the top not to use if if you've been using iTunes 6.0 to purchase music, so it looks like it may not be a good solution (doesn't even mention version 7). -Mike From Lists at mac.com Tue Dec 5 11:05:45 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Tue Dec 5 11:05:52 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/5/06 1:55 PM, Michael Winter wrote: >>> Is the DRM removable? >> >> >> Yes. You can do it with: >> >> Hymn (free and open source) >> http://hymn-project.org/ > > When I click on the Documentation link, there's a big warning at the > top not to use if if you've been using iTunes 6.0 to purchase music, > so it looks like it may not be a good solution (doesn't even mention > version 7). I don't know about that, but DRM Dumpster should be fine. It works by creating a CD (you can use a CD-RW) of the song and then re-importing it as an unprotected file. Apple allows that. on 12/5/06 1:08 PM, Randy B.Singer wrote: > DRM Dumpster (free, donation requested) > http://www.burningthumb.com/drmdumpster.html From Lists at mac.com Tue Dec 5 11:12:06 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Tue Dec 5 11:12:19 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/5/06 10:24 AM, Andrew J. Yon III wrote: > Eight tracks. Lordy, I have to move up. When did they come out with those ? > Mine only has 4 tracks. I love the?magic of how the little wheel retracts up > in there like a plane's landing gear though. > > Will OSX?recognize?eight tracks ? You didn't have an emoticon to tell us if that statement was meant to be taken tongue-in-cheek, so I'll take it seriously. O/S X will recognize the eight tracks taken two at a time through right and left analog audio inputs. So, were you kidding or maybe just too young or too foreign to know about eight track tapes? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20061205/6aff3696/attachment.html From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Dec 5 11:12:51 2006 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Dec 5 11:12:52 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/5/06 1:05 PM, Neil wrote: > I don't know about that, but DRM Dumpster should be fine. It works by > creating a CD (you can use a CD-RW) of the song and then re-importing it as > an unprotected file. Apple allows that. Why do you need DRM Dumpster for this? I haven't done it in iTunes 7, but in the past creating a CD of iTunes music in iTunes and burning a CD has removed the DRM, without need Dumpster or anything else. Am I missing something? From Lists at mac.com Tue Dec 5 11:18:51 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Tue Dec 5 11:19:06 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/5/06 2:12 PM, Linda wrote: > On 12/5/06 1:05 PM, Neil wrote: > >> I don't know about that, but DRM Dumpster should be fine. It works by >> creating a CD (you can use a CD-RW) of the song and then re-importing it as >> an unprotected file. Apple allows that. > > Why do you need DRM Dumpster for this? I haven't done it in iTunes 7, but in > the past creating a CD of iTunes music in iTunes and burning a CD has > removed the DRM, without need Dumpster or anything else. Am I missing > something? AFAIK, DRM Dumpster isn't needed, it's just a free way to make the process a one-click one. From coolcat at hosting4days.com Tue Dec 5 12:00:18 2006 From: coolcat at hosting4days.com (revDAVE) Date: Tue Dec 5 12:01:17 2006 Subject: [X4U] No Fonts Message-ID: 10.4.8 After rebooting - now the only available fonts are system fonts that show up and all my others - in lib>fonts don't show up in various apps... I repaired disk permissions I tossed fontbook plist I rebooted Q: how can I get my fonts to show up? -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists] From ayon2 at sc.rr.com Tue Dec 5 12:15:48 2006 From: ayon2 at sc.rr.com (Andrew J. Yon III) Date: Tue Dec 5 12:15:58 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iPod Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 5, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Neil wrote: > You didn't have an emoticon to tell us if that statement was meant > to be taken tongue-in-cheek, so I'll take it seriously. O/S X will > recognize the eight tracks taken two at a time through right and > left analog audio inputs. So, were you kidding or maybe just too > young or too foreign to know about eight track tapes? Neil, My apologies. I forgot the emoticon. : ) I am a Southerner ( USA ). I am older than 4 tracks , which were before 8 track tapes. By the way, there was an adapter to run 4 track tapes in your 8 track player. I am old enough to forget things sometimes, But I do remember going to Bob Seger's first concert. Oh yeah, I was also born blonde. Again, my apologies. Thanks for your serious reply. Andy3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20061205/29a92c1e/attachment.html From Lists at mac.com Tue Dec 5 12:50:29 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Tue Dec 5 12:50:46 2006 Subject: [X4U] Re: iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/5/06 3:15 PM, Andrew J. Yon III wrote: > I am older than 4 tracks , which were before 8 track tapes. By the way, the standard audio cassettes from the 1970's and 1980's had four tracks. Two channels (left and right) on each side. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20061205/b87b2950/attachment.html From coolcat at hosting4days.com Tue Dec 5 13:39:58 2006 From: coolcat at hosting4days.com (revDAVE) Date: Tue Dec 5 13:40:09 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/4/2006 11:30 AM, "Barbara Frederick" wrote: > So I said that I would buy him an iPod for Christmas. Also there's rumors of a new large iPod soon... Who knows...???? - - - - - From: Mac Rumors: Video iPod Patent Pictures and Touch Sensitive Bezel [Update] Location: http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061026073133.shtml - - - - - Video iPod Patent Pictures and Touch Sensitive Bezel [Update] Thursday October 26, 2006 07:31 AM EST Posted by arn -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists] From Lists at mac.com Tue Dec 5 14:16:19 2006 From: Lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Tue Dec 5 14:16:37 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 12/5/06 4:39 PM, revDAVE wrote: >> So I said that I would buy him an iPod for Christmas. > > > Also there's rumors of a new large iPod soon... Who knows...???? The latest rumor is that the wide screen iPod has been delayed and wont ship for at least a few months. From mailmehere at mindspring.com Tue Dec 5 14:53:08 2006 From: mailmehere at mindspring.com (Gardner Byron) Date: Tue Dec 5 14:53:16 2006 Subject: [X4U] Apple Bluetooth Mice not connecting properly to 15" AlBook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15BB26D4-374F-45E2-BFC4-2DAC3210A22E@mindspring.com> You might try to reinstall the Mouse software on the CD or from Apple online. On Dec 4, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > Hi all, > > At work I use an Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard connected to my > 15" > AlBook running 10.4.6. It has been working great for me for quite some > time. But in trying to connect a second spare Apple Bluetooth mouse at > home all I get is the ability to click but the cursor won't move. I > thought that perhaps I was getting some sort of freaky interference at > home so I went back to work and I tried connecting it there but no > luck. I > even tried a few other Bluetooth mice kicking around and all have > the same > reaction - no movement but clicks OK. The mouse I was originally using > fine at work still worked properly though. > > I then mistakenly used the Bluetooth Explorer app from the Developer > installer to completely empty my Bluetooth connection history list > (including the current connections) and now I can't get any mice to > work > properly after connecting - just clicking works. The setup assistant > reports that pairing with each of the mice I tested went OK. > Connecting > the Apple Bluetooth keyboard again went smoothly so the issue is > just with > mice. > > I also tried deleting the com.apple.bluetooth.Plist file and > rebooted.... > no luck. Full shutdown and zapping of PRAM has had no effect. > > The easy suggestion is to upgrade to 10.4.8 and see if that helps > but I've > been hesitant to go to 10.4.8 yet. > > Your suggestions are most appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Coj > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From frederick at jersey.net Tue Dec 5 17:45:23 2006 From: frederick at jersey.net (Barbara Frederick) Date: Tue Dec 5 17:46:40 2006 Subject: [X4U] iPod Thanks Message-ID: <7062E7E0-84CB-11DB-B774-000A9585A148@jersey.net> Thank you for the answers to my question of what iPod to buy my son. I found the answers much more informative and thought provoking than the Apple web site ads. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees, I guess. My son said that if I wanted to spend the cash on the big iPod he wouldn't turn it down but he would be happy with a Nano that has a sweat proof cover. Maybe I should spend the extra on a Shuffle for me. What...jump from a portable CD player to a Shuffle? Barbara, who is now having a panic attack about having to learn something new after she just figured out that the CD player turns "itself" off after 3 minutes! From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Tue Dec 5 18:50:16 2006 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Tue Dec 5 18:50:34 2006 Subject: [X4U] DVD hardware test Message-ID: Is there some soft to test the DVD writer if it's still any good or when something looks wrong what it might be? Paul Moortgat From healyzh at aracnet.com Tue Dec 5 20:42:24 2006 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Tue Dec 5 20:42:30 2006 Subject: [X4U] iLife 07? In-Reply-To: <680F2D30-293B-4966-AF41-D06935814719@mac.com> References: <3eb00e9b0612042239w398e98a3t7bc4b9a9f153108e@mail.gmail.com> <680F2D30-293B-4966-AF41-D06935814719@mac.com> Message-ID: At 9:19 AM +0100 12/5/06, Kirk McElhearn wrote: >On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Kurt Hindenburg wrote: > >> When does the new iLife 07 come out? Is it worth buying 06 this >>late in the year? I'm on a G4 PPC Tiger if that matters. > >No, don't buy now - it generally comes out at the Macworld SF expo, >which is early January. I finally bought iLife '06 about a month ago, and my only regret is that I didn't get it sooner. If you are having problems with the size of your iPhoto library then it might be worth getting, even this close to when the new version will likely be out. I know for me it was worth it. If you don't specifically need something (and the only thing I can think of is iPhoto) then wait. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Tue Dec 5 21:07:46 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Tue Dec 5 21:08:23 2006 Subject: [X4U] OT: Lacie 1TB RAID Ext FW Drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As long as the drives are the same bus type as the existing ones it should be possible but I'd be emailing LaCie support for confirmation before I did anything. Coj Neil Sent by: x4u-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 06/12/06 01:46 AM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." To X4U cc Subject [X4U] OT: Lacie 1TB RAID Ext FW Drive I have a Lacie 1TB RAID external FireWire drive. It has four hard drives, 250gig each. Would it be possible for me to swap out the drives for larger ones, say 750gig, to have a 3gig RAID? Is it that simple? The 3gig and 4gig RAID drives that I have seen are at least a few thousand dollars each. Thanks. From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Tue Dec 5 21:10:00 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Tue Dec 5 21:12:10 2006 Subject: [X4U] No Fonts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try deleting the com.apple.ATS folder in the Library/Caches folder and reboot. If that doesn't work email us back with more details on what happened or what you did prior to the reboot you mentioned below. Coj revDAVE Sent by: x4u-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 06/12/06 07:00 AM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." To "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." cc Subject [X4U] No Fonts 10.4.8 After rebooting - now the only available fonts are system fonts that show up and all my others - in lib>fonts don't show up in various apps... I repaired disk permissions I tossed fontbook plist I rebooted Q: how can I get my fonts to show up? -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat@hosting4days.com [db-lists] From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Tue Dec 5 22:57:30 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Tue Dec 5 22:58:10 2006 Subject: [X4U] Apple Bluetooth Mice not connecting properly to 15" AlBook In-Reply-To: <15BB26D4-374F-45E2-BFC4-2DAC3210A22E@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Hmmmm, tried looking for the Bluetooth installer on the OSX Install disc, no luck.Were you referring to a specific Bluetooth installer disc? I can only see Firmware updates on the Apple site so thought I'd try and download the 1.1 update and run that, then run the 1.2 updater again. After trying to run the 1.1 updater and rebooting I no longer have the Bluetooth preference showing at all, though it is there in the System folder- even tried replacing it from another System build I have. When I try to run any of the Bluetooth core services apps (from System Folder) it says I don't have the hardware module... so either it was on its way out and I gave it a helping hand over the cliff or the firmware updates failed and have rendered it useless. On a 15" AlBook, is this a separate attached chip/board or is it part of the motherboard? Anyone have any suggestions on how to wake it/fix it? It's still under warranty but letting daddy's little helper go to the shop for a while is rather undesirable at this time of the year! Coj Gardner Byron Sent by: x4u-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 06/12/06 09:53 AM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." To "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." cc Subject Re: [X4U] Apple Bluetooth Mice not connecting properly to 15" AlBook You might try to reinstall the Mouse software on the CD or from Apple online. On Dec 4, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > Hi all, > > At work I use an Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard connected to my > 15" > AlBook running 10.4.6. It has been working great for me for quite some > time. But in trying to connect a second spare Apple Bluetooth mouse at > home all I get is the ability to click but the cursor won't move. I > thought that perhaps I was getting some sort of freaky interference at > home so I went back to work and I tried connecting it there but no > luck. I > even tried a few other Bluetooth mice kicking around and all have > the same > reaction - no movement but clicks OK. The mouse I was originally using > fine at work still worked properly though. > > I then mistakenly used the Bluetooth Explorer app from the Developer > installer to completely empty my Bluetooth connection history list > (including the current connections) and now I can't get any mice to > work > properly after connecting - just clicking works. The setup assistant > reports that pairing with each of the mice I tested went OK. > Connecting > the Apple Bluetooth keyboard again went smoothly so the issue is > just with > mice. > > I also tried deleting the com.apple.bluetooth.Plist file and > rebooted.... > no luck. Full shutdown and zapping of PRAM has had no effect. > > The easy suggestion is to upgrade to 10.4.8 and see if that helps > but I've > been hesitant to go to 10.4.8 yet. > > Your suggestions are most appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Coj From winstonworks at sympatico.ca Wed Dec 6 05:46:07 2006 From: winstonworks at sympatico.ca (Winston MacKelvie) Date: Wed Dec 6 05:46:18 2006 Subject: [X4U] Apple Bluetooth Mice not connecting properly to 15" AlBook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85366375-C9D8-43E2-9311-2991F98040A8@sympatico.ca> While this may not be the same for you, I have often had no BT on reboot even though the BT is integral. The only fix that I suggest that works 100% is to pull all the connectors (FW, USB, Audio, E'net, phone) and reboot. Then replug. Winston MacKelvie The Winston Works Inc. http://www.inventure.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20061206/01f286ac/attachment.html From winter at mac.com Wed Dec 6 06:21:51 2006 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Wed Dec 6 06:20:20 2006 Subject: [X4U] DVD hardware test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <09E8AD64-68DE-40C3-B948-04C15575603D@mac.com> On Dec 5, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Is there some soft to test the DVD writer if it's still any good or > when something looks wrong what it might be? Let me know if you hear anything, I have the same question. I'm having more and more trouble with DVDs burned in my old Quicksilver G4 not playing on anything else and data DVDs simply not mounting in other computers. I've tried a couple different brands of media that have always worked before so I'm really thinking its the burner. It would be nice if there were a simple test one could do... -Mike From mprevost at dot4.com Wed Dec 6 07:01:16 2006 From: mprevost at dot4.com (Michael J. Prevost) Date: Wed Dec 6 07:01:25 2006 Subject: [X4U] Cube Rotation Stopped Working In-Reply-To: <20061206142027.25E3B54E309@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061206142027.25E3B54E309@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: The cube-rotation effect (e.g. when switching users) has stopped working on my Dual 2.7 GHz G5 PowerMac (about 15 months old). It has the default video card from Apple, Quartz Extreme and Core Image are both supported of course. I may have quit working on the 10.4.8 update, but I am not sure. My system is configured with the 30" display so one possible explanation is that an OS update consumes more video memory than previous releases, and the factory video card no longer has enough available video memory available for the cube effect when the 30" display is attached. I like the cube rotation effect... has anyone else seen this problem? Mike -- Michael J. Prevost Dot4, Inc. http://www.dot4.com From vdub.grego at gmail.com Wed Dec 6 07:17:45 2006 From: vdub.grego at gmail.com (Matt Gregory) Date: Wed Dec 6 07:17:58 2006 Subject: [X4U] Cube Rotation Stopped Working In-Reply-To: References: <20061206142027.25E3B54E309@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <91a704800612060717lee43dc8v1e6cac9bf1c6e1df@mail.gmail.com> Don't have an answer, but more things you can try ... If you haven't tried it, VirtueDesktops (a virtual desktop app) will produce this same effect, as well as others, when you change desktops. Perhaps you can gleen some more information from playing around to see if it's other effects work or if it's cube effect works. In fact I think it uses effects built into OS X, not effects built into the application, but I could be wrong about that. If it works fine then it might be related to Fast User Switching itself rather than a lack of memory issue. matt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20061206/052ab951/attachment.html From rashton at telus.net Wed Dec 6 07:50:09 2006 From: rashton at telus.net (Robert Ashton) Date: Wed Dec 6 07:50:31 2006 Subject: [X4U] DVD hardware test In-Reply-To: <09E8AD64-68DE-40C3-B948-04C15575603D@mac.com> References: <09E8AD64-68DE-40C3-B948-04C15575603D@mac.com> Message-ID: <49A18FF0-2C6A-45A2-B03D-BD38EDC0ABE4@telus.net> Personally I would just buy a new burner. You can now get dual layer internal burner that would replace your burner for around $40.00 Canadian. What you might spend on software to test would cost you close to or more than that. Toast will support this new burner and iDVD that comes with iLife 06 will support it also. There are way more advantages to a new burner that to mess around with an older one. Hope this helps. Bob On 6-Dec-06, at 6:21 AM, Michael Winter wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> Is there some soft to test the DVD writer if it's still any good >> or when something looks wrong what it might be? > > Let me know if you hear anything, I have the same question. I'm > having more and more trouble with DVDs burned in my old Quicksilver > G4 not playing on anything else and data DVDs simply not mounting > in other computers. I've tried a couple different brands of media > that have always worked before so I'm really thinking its the > burner. It would be nice if there were a simple test one could do... > > -Mike > > From XPressoBean at mac.com Wed Dec 6 07:54:42 2006 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Wed Dec 6 07:54:58 2006 Subject: [X4U] iTunes authorization In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/4/06 11:02 AM, Linda wrote: >> I didn't know that before this threaded started up - and it looks >> like I'm not alone. > > I did know, I just forgot; my "crap" is knowing that when I deauthorize all, > I'll have to drive six hours to reauthorize my Ma's computer. She's not real > savvy and if she sits down to listen to her music, and it doesn't play, > she's liable to call city hall to tell them that someone has been stealing > things off her computer. Update, and another big D'oh! The G4 needing deauthorization was successfully deauthorized. Wiping the hard disk didn't matter; the authorization is held by Apple, not locally. I booted up the old G4, launched iTunes, and was able to Deauthorize This Computer in the iTunes menu. Woo hoo! So... authorization outlives disk re-initialization, another good data point to know. :-) And Ma can continue to rock out without needing to worry. Whew. ~Linda From winter at mac.com Wed Dec 6 09:01:13 2006 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Wed Dec 6 09:01:35 2006 Subject: [X4U] DVD hardware test In-Reply-To: <49A18FF0-2C6A-45A2-B03D-BD38EDC0ABE4@telus.net> References: <09E8AD64-68DE-40C3-B948-04C15575603D@mac.com> <49A18FF0-2C6A-45A2-B03D-BD38EDC0ABE4@telus.net> Message-ID: On Dec 6, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Robert Ashton wrote: > Personally I would just buy a new burner. You can now get dual > layer internal burner that would replace your burner for around > $40.00 Canadian. What you might spend on software to test would > cost you close to or more than that. Toast will support this new > burner and iDVD that comes with iLife 06 will support it also. > There are way more advantages to a new burner that to mess around > with an older one. Hope this helps. Just FYI, I just rebooted the G4 after doing just that. Test burn happening right now. Now I'll put the "questionable" drive in the external FW