Wayne, et al. These have been around for linux for a while now and started popping up for MAC OS X. They work, kinda. They are still wonky, at best. Here is a clue "*1 - Microsoft Access supported in Office 2000 only." Now, if it was a real functional Windows Kernal, it would support everything Windows would support, so something is missing or not functioning correctly. I guess that's why it's listed as "beta". They are fun to play with and impress your friends with, but nothing I would consider "production grade". Plus I wouldn't pay for it, their are free ones out on the market. That's my 2¢m, FWIW. Cheers, John On Nov 18, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > Anyone looked at CrossOver yet? > > http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/ > > On Nov 18, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Jim Elmore wrote: > >> See http://darwine.opendarwin.org/ -- maybe someday Boot Camp and >> Parallels will be obsolete. Wouldn't that be great if applications >> were not OS specific. >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jon Marett wrote: >> >>> On Nov 18, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Jim Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Have others heard/read/divined that Parallels will be tweaked to >>>> capture an >>>> already-installed Boot Camp Windows XP partition? >>> >>> Not sure if Parallels will add such a feature, but this thread >>> discusses the process of converting a Boot Camp partition to a >>> Parallels vm: >>> >>> <http://forum.parallels.com/thread3261.html> >>> >>> I have an early beta of VMware Fusion which shows lots of >>> promise, but it is too early to tell if performance will beat >>> that of Parallels and rival that of a Boot Camp install. I'm >>> already impressed with the features that work already (drag and >>> drop between the host and vm, multi-processor support for vm, >>> solid USB support including the built-in iSight in my macbook). >>> Even simple things like resizing the vm window are pretty slick. >>> The public beta should be available by the end of the year, and >>> should have an even better feature set and be more stable than >>> this beta. >>> >>> VMware and a few 3rd party vendors also have P2V products for >>> other platforms, so we can hope it will become a reality for us >>> mac users. Otherwise a Boot Camp install might be converted using >>> these tools on another platform to convert the partition to a vm, >>> which then can be transfered back to the Mac. Of course you would >>> need another machine running VMware Server (a free product that >>> runs on Windows and Linux), and the software to do the P2V >>> conversion (not sure if any of these are free). >>> >>> jon >>> >>> ________________________ >>> "Content makes poor men rich; discontentment makes rich men poor." >>> -Benjamin Franklin >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> X4U mailing list >>> X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >>> >>> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and >>> random stuff: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984