Bob Aldridge said: >Cable company gave the e-mail of the offending PC's and Mac. That means nothing. It is very common for PC viruses to do what is known as "spoofing". That is, they take over the e-mail program of the infected PC, and replicate and send themselves out using addresses in the e-mail program's address book as the "to" and "from" addresses. So, looking at the "from" address of a message sent out due to a virus infection is useless with regard to determining where the e-mail originated. http://www.plattsburgh.edu/help/virus/spoof.php Actually I'm really surprised that your cable company didn't already know this. PC viruses that spoof e-mail addresses have been around for years. >I doubt the cable company too, but I need to prove them wrong on this and >prove to the staff Macs are safe as I professed. There has only ever been *one* Macintosh virus or Trojan that has been able to successfully send itself out to other users and that is the Simpsons virus: http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99102.htm http://www.macintouch.com/simpsonsvirus.html The Simpsons virus circulated about 5 years ago. It is only for OS 9 and it required Outlook Express to spread. It was never a prevalent virus and at this point, with the passing of Outlook Express, and the rise of OS X, it is probably extinct. Currently there are *no* viruses that infect OS X. (NONE.) There are a few very rare Trojans. Trojans do not self-propogate. There are hundreds of Word macro viruses, but they are irrelevant if you don't use Word, or if you have Word's macro feature turned off. There are a handful of viruses that can infect OS 9, and which can also infect Classic running in OS X, but these are now very rare also. None of these, other than the Simpson's virus, can spread via e-mail. >Doing a little checking around I found ClamXav. I'll give it a shot. ClamXAV is free, which is, of course, very attractive. However, the product is misleading. ClamXav is an OS X port of ClamAV, which is a UNIX server anti-virus application for use with Windows networks. (ClamAV comes with Mac OS X Server.) The problem is that ClamXav uses ClamAV's anti-viral database, with few additions in consideration of the Macintosh. You can search the ClamAV database here: http://clamav-du.securesites.net/cgi-bin/clamgrok As a test, do a search for, for instance, "Macintosh", or for one of the known (though very rare) Macintosh Trojans, for instance: "Opener" or "Renepo," and see if anything shows up. (Nothing will.) What this means is that ClamXav doesn't look for much in the way of Macintosh-specific malware. Sometimes free isn't a good deal. It is *extremely* unlikely that your Macintosh is infected with any sort of Malware, and I would say that the liklihood that spam originated from your Macintosh is just about zero. But if you feel that you must get an anti-virus program, at least get one that can recognize the rare instances of Mac malware that exist and can deal with them. I recommend Intego's Virus Barrier: http://www.intego.com/virusbarrier/ Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html