From mac at kapellos.com Sun Apr 1 06:37:55 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Fri Apr 6 07:41:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] is this list dead? Message-ID: <5E685D17-3E96-4FDF-BEC3-1FAC46E5B10A@kapellos.com> hi! i haven't received anything from the list since march 12th? is it just me or?? regards alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.8 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.8 :: From randy at macattorney.com Tue Apr 3 02:25:56 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Fri Apr 6 08:49:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50E0ACFE-60C3-4091-820B-F13E9AE355DF@macattorney.com> test ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (3rd, 4th, and 5th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From allan at nhbungalow.com Wed Apr 4 05:04:37 2007 From: allan at nhbungalow.com (Allan Rube=?ISO-8859-1?B?uSA=?=) Date: Fri Apr 6 08:58:22 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire problems Message-ID: My firewire ports - Mac Pro running 10.4.9 have worked on and off since January. I have a firewire card reader and one hard drive. I ran the Apple Diagnostic test today and it said there were no problems. I repaired permissions, shut off the Mac, unplugged all cables, waited an hour and turned it back on with no firewire devises present. I added my firewire card reader and nothing was seen. Here are two screen shots. The first shows what the firewire section of System profiler looks like when my firewire was working - and it did after I installed 10.4.9, and the second shows what it looks like now. At wits end: Good http://www.nhbungalow.com/nc/firewiregood.jpg Bad http://www.nhbungalow.com/nc/firewirebad.jpg Can anyone tell me other things to try? (Besides buy a usb reader and usb case, or buy a firewire card.) Allan Nashua, New Hampshire www.nebirds.com From netkat at comcast.net Wed Apr 4 16:18:40 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:10:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] hello? Message-ID: anyone here? From ses at bnl.gov Thu Apr 5 07:10:06 2007 From: ses at bnl.gov (stephen e. schwartz) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:36:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] automatically clear cache in firefox? Message-ID: Maybe I am missing it but I don't seem to see a way to tell firefox to clear the cache regularly, eg daily, so I am not pulling up old versions of web pages. I can of course refresh the page, but at best that's a nuissance, and sometimes I don't think of that and can be looking at a page that is days old. any suggestions or work-arounds? thanks -steve From netkat at comcast.net Thu Apr 5 20:37:38 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:07:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] this thing on? Message-ID: I know this might seem like a dumb question, but is this list all of a sudden fixed now? I'd given 'er up fer dead, then about 20 mins ago, X4U mail started showing up... nk From lists at mac.com Thu Apr 5 21:09:56 2007 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:11:13 2007 Subject: [X4U] Tvisto Hard Drive In-Reply-To: <0EF8E7DE-345A-4CA6-A934-3C6DE64805BC@mac.com> References: <0EF8E7DE-345A-4CA6-A934-3C6DE64805BC@mac.com> Message-ID: <46BB0A56-9747-42A4-8F07-8C6B54D3A8E4@mac.com> Thanks for the advice guys. I did reformat the drive and that worked. I sent that message a month ago and I don't know why it didn't make it to the list until now. > On 12 Mar, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Neil wrote: > >> I only have permission to read, not write to the drive. Of >> course, that makes the drive useless. I need to copy media files >> to the drive -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070406/c941d500/attachment.html From phadams at mac.com Thu Apr 5 21:22:36 2007 From: phadams at mac.com (P. H. Adams) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:12:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] International hotspot finder? In-Reply-To: <4ad1235c88b8a42592cc191a720fdd57@mac.com> References: <20070310015122.32A09A26A07@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <4ad1235c88b8a42592cc191a720fdd57@mac.com> Message-ID: <53A1B16A-09E1-426A-BEE4-6FA32A6ADAAB@mac.com> www.jwire.com On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Josh Hough wrote: > Anyone know of a good web site for locating wi-fi hotspots in > cities around the world? I just arrived in Damascus, Syria, and > could really use that right now. Haven't found anything through > Google yet. > Thanks, > -Josh > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070406/726cd295/attachment-0001.html From meged at earthlink.net Thu Apr 5 21:43:26 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:16:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/14/07 8:34 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > I haven't received anything from this list in days. And that's not > at all like this list. > > Is it just my subscription to the list, or is no one posting? I think it was definitely down for a while. But I received your post, Randy, and I now see 11 other posts. -- Eddie Hargreaves From maclist at analogdigital.com.au Thu Apr 5 21:50:55 2007 From: maclist at analogdigital.com.au (Christopher Collins) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:19:39 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: References: <28CB7085-CE59-40F4-96A0-4820AFA4067A@pandora.be> <42B9C45E-7D18-4233-AA5F-18192141857B@cox.net> Message-ID: <1DD4F8D1-BA5E-44E4-BA24-A9FDAD61FC31@analogdigital.com.au> I just don't think anyone has been posting....... cjc On 15/03/2007, at 2:34 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: I haven't received anything from this list in days. And that's not at all like this list. Is it just my subscription to the list, or is no one posting? ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (3rd, 4th, and 5th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From phadams at mac.com Thu Apr 5 22:19:02 2007 From: phadams at mac.com (P. H. Adams) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:29:42 2007 Subject: [X4U] International hotspot finder? In-Reply-To: <4ad1235c88b8a42592cc191a720fdd57@mac.com> References: <20070310015122.32A09A26A07@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <4ad1235c88b8a42592cc191a720fdd57@mac.com> Message-ID: <3CE2932D-E73B-4958-AB8B-A6DAAB5B6477@mac.com> On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Josh Hough wrote: > Anyone know of a good web site for locating wi-fi hotspots in > cities around the world? www.jwire.com From pandcsealy at internode.on.net Thu Apr 5 22:48:40 2007 From: pandcsealy at internode.on.net (Peter Sealy) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:39:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] 10.4.9 update reliable? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1DDE3D83-AE6C-4173-8532-7C350E7DD52C@internode.on.net> On Fri 75 Mar,, at 7:24 AM, Robert A. Virzi wrote: > I'm running 10.4.7 on my macbook pro, after rolling back from a bad > experience with 10.4.8. Eudora and other programs were crashing > after the update. > > What's the word on this update? (10.4.9) > - Bob > I skipped 10.4.8 but 10.4.9 has been fine for me. TiPB 867 1 gb RAM. ......... Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA From robert at ameeti.net Thu Apr 5 23:47:32 2007 From: robert at ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:54:41 2007 Subject: [X4U] How do I clone to a NAS? In-Reply-To: <8ADB4177-EBDC-4A71-A53A-EA2AFDD25B0D@mac.com> References: <8ADB4177-EBDC-4A71-A53A-EA2AFDD25B0D@mac.com> Message-ID: At 12:57 PM -0400, 3/15/07, Neil wrote: >I have a Buffalo Terrastation network attached RAID storage drive. >I also have a LaCie Big Disk FW800/USB2 RAID external drive. I >would like to clone the contents of my LaCie drive to my new NAS. I >can mount my NAS share in the Finder and copy files to it, but I >can't select the share in Carbon Copy Cloner nor Super Duper. SuperDuper's docs say that they do not support FAT32 which is what that drive is currently formatted in. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable. -- Sidney J. Harris <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Fri Apr 6 00:00:03 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:57:37 2007 Subject: [X4U] X4U again up? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X4u seems to reappear. Paul Moortgat From keith_w at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 6 01:18:59 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:13:02 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: References: <28CB7085-CE59-40F4-96A0-4820AFA4067A@pandora.be> <42B9C45E-7D18-4233-AA5F-18192141857B@cox.net> Message-ID: <46160273.9000706@dslextreme.com> Randy B. Singer wrote: > I haven't received anything from this list in days. And that's not at > all like this list. > > Is it just my subscription to the list, or is no one posting? > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer Hi Randy, Today is 4/6/07, and I just received this message from you, via the x4u list. Your message had been dated 3-14-07 @ 2034 hours. While I haven't read 'em yet, I see 3 more new messages dated 3-15-07. Something seriously amiss here... According to the footer, the moderator is at: "X4U list run by moderator at listserver.themacintoshguy.com" keith whaley From keith_w at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 6 02:05:24 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:24:19 2007 Subject: [X4U] Is 10.4.9 safe? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46160D54.4000106@dslextreme.com> Mark Des Cotes wrote: > Anyone have any bad experiences with 10.4.9? > > Mark Des Cotes > Systems Manager/Graphic Designer > > Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. > 3308 Second Street East > Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 > T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 > www.astroprinting.com Hi Mark. Today is 4-6-07, and I just got this message. Don't know where it's been all this time! I've got 10.4.9 and while I don't particularly stretch it all that much, I've not had any problems at all. Been a few weeks now... keith whaley So Cal ~ USA From jessup at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 04:12:45 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:53:17 2007 Subject: [X4U] International hotspot finder? In-Reply-To: <4ad1235c88b8a42592cc191a720fdd57@mac.com> References: <20070310015122.32A09A26A07@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > <4ad1235c88b8a42592cc191a720fdd57@mac.com> Message-ID: At 4:40 PM +0200 3/14/07, Josh Hough wrote: >Anyone know of a good web site for locating wi-fi hotspots in cities >around the world? I just arrived in Damascus, Syria, and could >really use that right now. Haven't found anything through Google >yet. Here's one I found once and kept as a bookmark. I haven't tested it: Here's another: I hope onen or the other is helpful to you. Daly ---------------------- From jessup at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 04:14:47 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:55:10 2007 Subject: [X4U] Opening dvd recorder? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:04 PM -0400 3/17/07, Allan Rube' wrote: >The only way I can open my empty dvd drive is to open Toast and then do the >eject command. In the finder, F12 doesn't work nor does command-e. > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > >Intel Mac 10.4.9 - did not work on previous few versions of OS either. Is the computer a desktop or laptop? Daly ---------------------- From jonkreisler at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 05:00:50 2007 From: jonkreisler at gmail.com (Jon Kreisler) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:06:05 2007 Subject: [X4U] Can Macs Write to NTFS Volumes? In-Reply-To: <393360E4-7916-4F76-9102-60F74148E36E@mac.com> References: <393360E4-7916-4F76-9102-60F74148E36E@mac.com> Message-ID: <19edefcb0704060500q76a08a4fu4b95b88dbd8bbdb0@mail.gmail.com> Correct. At this time, Mac OS X can only read NTFS, not write. You must use FAT or FAT-32 if you want to write to a Windoze format. Jon On 3/12/07, Neil wrote: > > OK, I think this is the same question I wrote under the subject line > "Tvisto Hard Drive," but there not might be as many people here > familiar with Tvisto as Windows NT Filesystem. So, I mounted the > drive and can read it, but not write to it. Is that because it isn't > possible for Macs to write to NT file system drives? Thanks, > > Neil > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070406/2d8bf1df/attachment.html From XPressoBean at mac.com Fri Apr 6 07:04:02 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:33:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/14/07 10:34 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > I haven't received anything from this list in days. Weeks without messages, here. Suddenly this morning there's a glut of backlogged messages, going all the way back 3-1/2 weeks. Glad to see the list is flowing again. ~Linda From tabdave at ca.rr.com Fri Apr 6 07:28:00 2007 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:38:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: References: <28CB7085-CE59-40F4-96A0-4820AFA4067A@pandora.be> <42B9C45E-7D18-4233-AA5F-18192141857B@cox.net> Message-ID: <6EAD937A-5783-4C10-9140-A554AB03F8E6@ca.rr.com> Yeah, I thought it was my subscription as well, so I resubscribed. Then I got these messages I was already subscribed, and then the flood of messages. David On Mar 14, 2007, at 8:34 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > I haven't received anything from this list in days. And that's not > at all like this list. > > Is it just my subscription to the list, or is no one posting? > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (3rd, 4th, and 5th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From macmonster at myrealbox.com Fri Apr 6 07:51:25 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:43:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] How do I clone to a NAS? In-Reply-To: <8ADB4177-EBDC-4A71-A53A-EA2AFDD25B0D@mac.com> References: <8ADB4177-EBDC-4A71-A53A-EA2AFDD25B0D@mac.com> Message-ID: <22A7FED0-7B94-4592-9719-E190AE5BE388@myrealbox.com> On 15 Mar 2007, at 16:57, Neil wrote: > I have a Buffalo Terrastation network attached RAID storage drive. > I also have a LaCie Big Disk FW800/USB2 RAID external drive. I > would like to clone the contents of my LaCie drive to my new NAS. > I can mount my NAS share in the Finder and copy files to it, but I > can't select the share in Carbon Copy Cloner nor Super Duper. No, you wouldn't be able to. I'm pretty sure this is because the CCC & SuperDuper are front-end for the `ditto` command - they're probably protecting you from trying to blindly copy resource-forks across the network. > I tried just copying the files, but I got an error message that > the file name is too long so it stopped copying. The NAS has a web > interface that says that the file format is XFS. I thought it > should handle long file names. So, does anybody have any > suggestions? Thanks. > (The NAS supports SMB and AFP out of the box.) Hmmmn... how are you mounting the NAS? Have you tried using Apple-K in Finder and then afp://NAS.name as well as smb://NAS.name ? What filesystem is the LaCie drive formatted with? I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Samba has long filename issues, but would be surprised if it couldn't handle files from a FAT32-formatted drive. Apple's HFS, on the other hand, and the way that Finder allows you to put punctuation in filenames, seems be very flexible (far more than many other filesystems or network file- sharing protocols, I'd imagine). I don't think you'll find this easy to overcome. I'm sure that just making a tar or zip archive of the files on the LaCie drive would be unsatisfactory, although you might find that you can copy a .dmg disk image of it onto the NAS which can be mounted acceptably. You might try copying via the command-line and redirecting stderr to a text file (you might have to use the find command to cp each file individually, piping through tar twice to preserve directory structure), so that afterwards you can examine in that which filenames have failed. If it's only a handful then you might be able to simply rename them. I'd have most confidence in taking the XFS disk out of the NAS unit and connecting it & the LaCie to a Linux box. If this is successful then the drive can be placed back in the NAS & you _should_ be able to access the files ok, but if there are significant numbers of files that can't be copied that way then you're h0sed. Stroller. From germain_m at videotron.ca Fri Apr 6 08:01:29 2007 From: germain_m at videotron.ca (Germain M.) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:46:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] OSX diaporama: how many pictures? Message-ID: Hello to the members of the list, Glad to see it's still alive. When using the buil-in diaporama function of OSX, I came to notice there's a maximum number limit of pictures that can be displayed as a slide-show. Yesterday I had a folder of 400+ photos and even if I select all, only a portion of them do really appear in the diaporama. I didn't count them up anyhow. Question: is there a maximum number of elements that can be displayed in the diaporama? Never heard of that before. Thanks Germain iMac Intel 2.0 ghz, 17 inches 1 gig RAM, 160 gig HD OSX 10.4.9 French From atlynch at mac.com Fri Apr 6 08:10:57 2007 From: atlynch at mac.com (Lynch Andrew) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:48:29 2007 Subject: [X4U] Monitor cable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422D0B73-CB63-4B95-B61F-1A629447F039@mac.com> Isn't this what an old style Monitor adapter does? I probably have one somewhere.... -Drew On Mar 12, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > By helping family I lost a cable from a 7500 (15 pin (8+7)) to a > 17" Lacie monitor (15 pin (5+5+5)). I searched Lacie but can't > find it. > Does someone know where I can buy such a cable? > > Paul Moortgat > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From cdomig at earthwave.net Fri Apr 6 08:32:05 2007 From: cdomig at earthwave.net (C Glass) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:54:39 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unknown - even went to the mail list site to get my password mailed and it took several days for that to happen? On 3/14/07 11:34 PM, "Randy B. Singer" wrote: > I haven't received anything from this list in days. And that's not > at all like this list. > > Is it just my subscription to the list, or is no one posting? > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (3rd, 4th, and 5th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From cdomig at earthwave.net Fri Apr 6 08:35:58 2007 From: cdomig at earthwave.net (C Glass) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:59:00 2007 Subject: [X4U] iRack on YouTube In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ha ha - thanks Paul On 3/20/07 8:04 PM, "Paul Moortgat" wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcjLEwZqcQI > > I got this from Mac Observer. > > Paul Moortgat > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From healyzh at aracnet.com Fri Apr 6 09:49:35 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:59:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] any *OLD* Macs still goin' out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:40 AM -0700 3/19/07, nk wrote: >Anyone on this list have an old Mac still busy doing work on a daily >basis? by "old," I mean SE/30 and before, or maybe 2si, 2ci, etc... > >just curious if anyone's keeping theirs around to do real work anymore.. Someone on the list at the time of the 10.4 release was using an SE/30, like me he was hard hit by the removal of classic appletalk. I was just trying to help someone get an SE working the last couple weeks. I have a IIcx at work, on my desk next to my monitor. It has a very important job, it holds up a picture and holds my candy can. Plus I tell anyone that asks it's my main system (I've had it there for years, but never plugged it in). My real systems are hidden under the desk where no one will see them. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From healyzh at aracnet.com Fri Apr 6 09:49:56 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:00:19 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading to 10.4 Message-ID: I'm getting ready to finally re-upgrade to 10.4. I first did the upgrade the day it was released, but went back to 10.3.9 a month or so later when the brand new hard drive I used died. My main reason for staying on 10.3.9 is gone, due to an OpenVMS upgrade I no longer have any classic Appletalk shares. Anyway, I am wondering what the recommended upgrade path is. I seem to recall something about selecting something like move aside the existing install. Does this require that I reinstall all of my applications? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From clong at mac.com Fri Apr 6 08:50:24 2007 From: clong at mac.com (Chris Long) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:00:29 2007 Subject: [X4U] test In-Reply-To: <50E0ACFE-60C3-4091-820B-F13E9AE355DF@macattorney.com> References: <50E0ACFE-60C3-4091-820B-F13E9AE355DF@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <4A07F2D6-5691-4EE4-96FB-D84C9CFB224D@mac.com> Welcome back... looks like the list is back up and going On Apr 3, 2007, at 4:25 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > test > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (3rd, 4th, and 5th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From netkat at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 08:51:32 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:00:54 2007 Subject: [X4U] is this list dead? In-Reply-To: <5E685D17-3E96-4FDF-BEC3-1FAC46E5B10A@kapellos.com> References: <5E685D17-3E96-4FDF-BEC3-1FAC46E5B10A@kapellos.com> Message-ID: <34c9dc5a1b275ef02b2532f31b8dbdfa@comcast.net> On Apr 1, 2007, at 6:37 AM, alexandre wrote: > i haven't received anything from the list since march 12th? > is it just me or?? Not just you; that's the date when it dried up for me, too.. and it seems that all of a sudden, the messages posted in the mean time are spurting out now...wierd.. ...but good to have it back, if it IS back. nk From meged at earthlink.net Fri Apr 6 08:55:11 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:01:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] Opening dvd recorder? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/17/07 11:04 AM, Allan Rube? wrote: > The only way I can open my empty dvd drive is to open Toast and then do the > eject command. In the finder, F12 doesn't work nor does command-e. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. Go to /System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/ and double-click on Eject.menu This will add an Eject icon to your menubar that you can use to open or close your drive. -- Eddie Hargreaves From petez at mac.com Fri Apr 6 09:37:52 2007 From: petez at mac.com (Pete Zimowski) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:12:25 2007 Subject: [X4U] Seems To Be Back Up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5FE02376-8C58-44B4-B14A-08B953B89FC1@mac.com> Hmmm... List seems to be back up..... Here's what you missed...... Apple TV Octo-Core Mac Pros Another couple of "pundits" slamming Apple TV and iPhone British Sailors Kidnapped then Released by Iran A tsunami in the Pacific Tiny kitty rescued from the walls of a Florida home Ice caps in some parts of the world actually growing :-) Pete From lorancestinson at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 09:54:10 2007 From: lorancestinson at gmail.com (Lorance Stinson) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:15:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] automatically clear cache in firefox? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50b8921f0704060954l787dab43rae95d78e86a77de3@mail.gmail.com> There used to be an easy to access option to tell Firefox to check the page each time it's loaded. They made it hard to find, along with most of the useful advanced options. To clear the cache each time you quit in version 2, this applies to 1.5 also but the settings are in a different location, open the options, choose Privacy, check the option "Always clear my private...", click the "Settings" next to that and select what date you want cleared. I have it clear the cache and download history. When FF gets slow I just restart it and the cache is cleared. Make sure the option "Ask me before clearing private data" is unchecked or it will ask each time. If you ever want to clear the cache without quitting from now on select the "Tools" menu then "Clear Private Data". After checking about:config and Google I think this is what you are looking for: . The instructions for changing it seem to apply only to the windows version. To change it on a Mac open the page "about:config", enter the value "browser.cache.check_doc_frequency" into the filter box, double click the option and enter the value corresponding to the behavior you desire. On 4/5/07, stephen e. schwartz wrote: > Maybe I am missing it but I don't seem to see a way to tell firefox to > clear the cache regularly, eg daily, so I am not pulling up old versions of > web pages. > > I can of course refresh the page, but at best that's a nuissance, and > sometimes I don't think of that and can be looking at a page that is days > old. > > any suggestions or work-arounds? > > thanks > > -steve > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -- http://lorance.freeshell.org/ http://lorancestinson.blogspot.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/lorancestinson/ From ses at bnl.gov Fri Apr 6 10:23:47 2007 From: ses at bnl.gov (stephen e. schwartz) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:20:00 2007 Subject: [X4U] automatically clear cache in firefox? Message-ID: Maybe I am missing it but I don't seem to see a way to tell firefox to clear the cache regularly, eg daily, so I am not pulling up old versions of web pages. I can of course refresh the page, but at best that's a nuissance, and sometimes I don't think of that and can be looking at a page that is days old. any suggestions or work-arounds? thanks -steve From lists at mac.com Fri Apr 6 10:26:43 2007 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:20:23 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: <1DD4F8D1-BA5E-44E4-BA24-A9FDAD61FC31@analogdigital.com.au> References: <28CB7085-CE59-40F4-96A0-4820AFA4067A@pandora.be> <42B9C45E-7D18-4233-AA5F-18192141857B@cox.net> <1DD4F8D1-BA5E-44E4-BA24-A9FDAD61FC31@analogdigital.com.au> Message-ID: <8EC00364-7483-4423-BD39-BF54FDA6B977@mac.com> No, that's not the only problem. My posts from a month ago finally showed up here yesterday. On Apr 6, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Christopher Collins wrote: > I just don't think anyone has been posting....... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070406/ce92b54c/attachment.html From mcclernan1 at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 10:33:51 2007 From: mcclernan1 at comcast.net (John McClernan) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:20:31 2007 Subject: [X4U] International hotspot finder? In-Reply-To: <53A1B16A-09E1-426A-BEE4-6FA32A6ADAAB@mac.com> References: <20070310015122.32A09A26A07@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <4ad1235c88b8a42592cc191a720fdd57@mac.com> <53A1B16A-09E1-426A-BEE4-6FA32A6ADAAB@mac.com> Message-ID: <26F8E5EC-C895-4F09-80DE-178916231A69@comcast.net> Syria is not one of the countries included in their hotspot list. Anyway, it's jiwire, not jwire. Cheers, John On Apr 6, 2007, at 12:22 AM, P. H. Adams wrote: > www.jwire.com > > On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Josh Hough wrote: > >> Anyone know of a good web site for locating wi-fi hotspots in >> cities around the world? I just arrived in Damascus, Syria, and >> could really use that right now. Haven't found anything through >> Google yet. >> Thanks, >> -Josh From netkat at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 11:02:35 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:21:50 2007 Subject: [X4U] the list might be up but Message-ID: <4e61bf571d1a847d3fb2dfa236b191b1@comcast.net> I don't notice any responses to posts... could that aspect of the list still be "busted?" nk From roduncan at telus.net Fri Apr 6 11:03:39 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:21:57 2007 Subject: [X4U] X4U again up? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All themacintoshguy (5) lists I belong to have been down since March 12th and now are *magically* appearing again. Would be nice if listmom could/would provide a little info. I emailed a few times but *never* got a response. I guess we get what we pay for. Rod >X4u seems to reappear. > >Paul Moortgat >_______________________________________________ >X4U mailing list >X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From lists at mac.com Fri Apr 6 11:06:33 2007 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] How do I clone to a NAS? In-Reply-To: References: <8ADB4177-EBDC-4A71-A53A-EA2AFDD25B0D@mac.com> Message-ID: On Apr 6, 2007, at 2:47 AM, Robert Ameeti wrote: > At 12:57 PM -0400, 3/15/07, Neil wrote: > >> I have a Buffalo Terrastation network attached RAID storage drive. >> I also have a LaCie Big Disk FW800/USB2 RAID external drive. I >> would like to clone the contents of my LaCie drive to my new NAS. >> I can mount my NAS share in the Finder and copy files to it, but I >> can't select the share in Carbon Copy Cloner nor Super Duper. > > SuperDuper's docs say that they do not support FAT32 which is what > that drive is currently formatted in. Yeah, that post is a month old. I learned that SuperDuper suggests creating a disk image on the NAS. That image is HFS+. It turns out that my real problem was some directory corruption on my source drive that kept interrupting the clone attempt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070406/9cfff94c/attachment.html From michaelelliott at mac.com Fri Apr 6 11:17:00 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Welcome back everyone Message-ID: <577F8C15-264A-4AE5-A884-773AD6FB2A85@mac.com> I know people hate to clog the e-mail with "off topic" posts...but deal with it. Weird how I missed seeing all of these posts every day. I'm glad to see that the list is back up. List Mom...do you ever read these posts? What happened? I had this image of the List Mom in the hospital somewhere. Michael From netkat at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 11:19:52 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:51 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: <1DD4F8D1-BA5E-44E4-BA24-A9FDAD61FC31@analogdigital.com.au> References: <28CB7085-CE59-40F4-96A0-4820AFA4067A@pandora.be> <42B9C45E-7D18-4233-AA5F-18192141857B@cox.net> <1DD4F8D1-BA5E-44E4-BA24-A9FDAD61FC31@analogdigital.com.au> Message-ID: On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Collins wrote: > I just don't think anyone has been posting....... > cjc > I have posted to the list several times over the "quiet" period and got nothing, not even my own posts TO the list. nk From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 11:34:45 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:25:05 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: List Activity In-Reply-To: <20070406171425.93165B0238D@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406171425.93165B0238D@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Apparently, the server went on the blink; at least for digests (which I'm on). I sent a message to and got a bunch of digests covering the past month. Activity should be back up to normal speed in a couple of days. Cheers From winter at mac.com Fri Apr 6 12:12:32 2007 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:27:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] Opening dvd recorder? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <08C96942-93CD-4CB0-9FA3-B012E5F5BD8A@mac.com> On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Allan Rube? wrote: > The only way I can open my empty dvd drive is to open Toast and > then do the > eject command. In the finder, F12 doesn't work nor does command-e. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Intel Mac 10.4.9 - did not work on previous few versions of OS either. If it's an Intel Mac, the keyboard should have a dedicated "Eject" button in the top, right corner next to the volume controls. F12 doesn't eject disks if you're using the newer computers (G4 Quicksilver on?) with those keyboards. -Mike From blmatthews at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 12:50:58 2007 From: blmatthews at gmail.com (Brian L. Matthews) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:29:37 2007 Subject: [X4U] Can Macs Write to NTFS Volumes? In-Reply-To: <19edefcb0704060500q76a08a4fu4b95b88dbd8bbdb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <393360E4-7916-4F76-9102-60F74148E36E@mac.com> <19edefcb0704060500q76a08a4fu4b95b88dbd8bbdb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >Correct. At this time, Mac OS X can only read NTFS, not write. You >must use FAT or FAT-32 if you want to write to a Windoze format. If you mean Mac OS X out of the box, that's correct. However, using MacFuse you can both read and write NTFS volumes on Mac OS X. Brian From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 12:51:08 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:29:43 2007 Subject: [X4U] How do I clone to a NAS? In-Reply-To: <20070406193322.6C8D0B28925@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406193322.6C8D0B28925@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 04/06/07, Robert Ameeti wrote: > At 12:57 PM -0400, 3/15/07, Neil wrote: > >>I have a Buffalo Terrastation network attached RAID storage drive. >>I also have a LaCie Big Disk FW800/USB2 RAID external drive. I >>would like to clone the contents of my LaCie drive to my new NAS. I >>can mount my NAS share in the Finder and copy files to it, but I >>can't select the share in Carbon Copy Cloner nor Super Duper. > > SuperDuper's docs say that they do not support FAT32 which is what > that drive is currently formatted in. And, Carbon Copy Cloner only works on local disks formatted w/HFS+, not over a network. From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 13:11:06 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:32:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading to 10.4 In-Reply-To: <20070406200210.658B4B30200@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406200210.658B4B30200@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 04/06/07, "Zane H. Healy" wrote: > > I'm getting ready to finally re-upgrade to 10.4. I first did the > upgrade the day it was released, but went back to 10.3.9 a month or > so later when the brand new hard drive I used died. My main reason > for staying on 10.3.9 is gone, due to an OpenVMS upgrade I no longer > have any classic Appletalk shares. > > Anyway, I am wondering what the recommended upgrade path is. I seem > to recall something about selecting something like move aside the > existing install. Does this require that I reinstall all of my applications? Make a bootable backup of your 10.3.9 system, pop in the Tiger install disk, and select the Upgrade previous version option. Than's the cleanest and won't muck with any of your settings or apps. Also, there's no Previous System folder creation as there is with the Archive & Install option. From douglist at macnauchtan.com Fri Apr 6 13:13:14 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:32:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] any *OLD* Macs still goin' out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 08:49 -0800 4/6/07, Zane H. Healy wrote: >Someone on the list at the time of the 10.4 release was using an SE/30, like me he was hard hit by the removal of classic appletalk. That was probably me. My SE/30 remains my personal file server. It sits beside a Mac II case which has no motherboard in it. The power supply runs four SCSI disks for the SE/30 and it also provides for a stay-down on power fail function for the SE/30 using the monitor power socket on the MacII shell. This comes from an 8500. My G4 runs 10.3.9 and spends almost all of its time in Termnal.app or a BBEdit worksheet. Somewhere there is a dock but I can never remember which side it's hidden on. -- --> There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't <-- From bluellama at charter.net Fri Apr 6 13:16:26 2007 From: bluellama at charter.net (Bluellama) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:33:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] any *OLD* Macs still goin' out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Still run my IIci w/13" rgb and mac plus. I run MacPaint/draw. Pagemaker, illustrator, Photoshop, Expression, Superpaint, Painter, bunch of old games and other graphics software. Regards, mr On Mar 19, 2007, at 11:40 AM, nk wrote: > Anyone on this list have an old Mac still busy doing work on a > daily basis? by "old," I mean SE/30 and before, or maybe 2si, 2ci, > etc... > > just curious if anyone's keeping theirs around to do real work > anymore.. From stan at stangould.com Fri Apr 6 13:22:23 2007 From: stan at stangould.com (Stan Gould) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:33:36 2007 Subject: [X4U] automatically clear cache in firefox? In-Reply-To: <26188713.1175877445533.JavaMail.root@m48> References: <26188713.1175877445533.JavaMail.root@m48> Message-ID: <4616ABFF.9090805@stangould.com> Try MainMenu at http://www.santasw.com/. It's a great utility for clearing cache files, and other similar tasks. Stan stephen e. schwartz wrote: > Maybe I am missing it but I don't seem to see a way to tell firefox to > clear the cache regularly, eg daily, so I am not pulling up old versions of > web pages. > > I can of course refresh the page, but at best that's a nuissance, and > sometimes I don't think of that and can be looking at a page that is days > old. > > any suggestions or work-arounds? > > thanks > > -steve > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > > From jperdman at earthlink.net Fri Apr 6 13:25:51 2007 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:34:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FE85F8C-D586-491E-B712-E0DEE6C0D42A@earthlink.net> I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it sounds as if yr firewire is pooched. I don't know how you prove it one way or the other, but you have Exactly the same symptoms as I encountered with my G5 iMac. Unfortunately I don't have the freedom of popping in a firewire card that you do. In my case my work around was to change the ext HD enclosure to one that had USB 2 connection and I don't use firewire on that machine. John On Apr 4, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Allan Rube? wrote: > My firewire ports - Mac Pro running 10.4.9 have worked on and off > since > January. I have a firewire card reader and one hard drive. > > I ran the Apple Diagnostic test today and it said there were no > problems. > > I repaired permissions, shut off the Mac, unplugged all cables, > waited an > hour and turned it back on with no firewire devises present. I > added my > firewire card reader and nothing was seen. > > Here are two screen shots. The first shows what the firewire > section of > System profiler looks like when my firewire was working - and it > did after I > installed 10.4.9, and the second shows what it looks like now. > > At wits end: > From aaron at macuser.fastmail.fm Fri Apr 6 14:29:22 2007 From: aaron at macuser.fastmail.fm (Aaron) Date: Fri Apr 6 14:29:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Messages were held by server since March 12 till ~0300 GMT today! Message-ID: <20070406212930.8B18D7B58@heartbeat1.messagingengine.com> All these macintoshguy lists (I'm on four of them!) seem to have been down from March 12 till about 0300 GMT today, April 6! I checked the 'Received:' headers on a bunch of messages to verify that the problem was internal to listserver.themacintoshguy.com. It received the messages when they were sent, but internally transmitted them today (GMT), and then finally sent them out! - Aaron From healyzh at aracnet.com Fri Apr 6 16:18:07 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Fri Apr 6 16:18:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading to 10.4 In-Reply-To: from "John Baltutis" at Apr 06, 2007 01:11:06 PM Message-ID: <200704062318.l36NI8CL019185@onyx.spiritone.com> John Baltutis wrote: > On 04/06/07, "Zane H. Healy" wrote: > > > > I'm getting ready to finally re-upgrade to 10.4. I first did the > > upgrade the day it was released, but went back to 10.3.9 a month or > > so later when the brand new hard drive I used died. My main reason > > for staying on 10.3.9 is gone, due to an OpenVMS upgrade I no longer > > have any classic Appletalk shares. > > > > Anyway, I am wondering what the recommended upgrade path is. I seem > > to recall something about selecting something like move aside the > > existing install. Does this require that I reinstall all of my applications? > > Make a bootable backup of your 10.3.9 system, pop in the Tiger install disk, > and select the Upgrade previous version option. Than's the cleanest and won't > muck with any of your settings or apps. Also, there's no Previous System folder > creation as there is with the Archive & Install option. This has been my plan (I try to periodically duplicate the system disk anyway), but I've been wondering what the advantages of the "Archive & Install" option are. I've seen it recommended a lot in the past. At the same time, I really don't have time to fix my settings and applications. I'm going to be hard pressed to find enough time right now to take the system down, run Disk Warrior on it, and then clone it and install. So my standard solution looks like the way to go. Zane From meged at earthlink.net Fri Apr 6 16:39:28 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Fri Apr 6 16:39:56 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading to 10.4 In-Reply-To: <200704062318.l36NI8CL019185@onyx.spiritone.com> Message-ID: On 4/6/07 4:18 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > I've been wondering what the advantages of the "Archive & Install" option are. > I've seen it recommended a lot in the past. The advantage is that you install a fresh, clean System folder that is free of cruft but keep your Applications, User accounts, documents, settings, etc. Your previous System folder is named as such and is kept around in case you need to move things over like contextual menu items or preference panes. > At the same time, I really don't have time to fix my settings and > applications. Because Archive & Install does not carry over third-party items from your pre-exising System, some work would be required to root around your old System and put them in your new System. The method that requires the least amount of initial time spent is Upgrade. From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 20:13:41 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Apr 6 20:13:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading to 10.4 In-Reply-To: <20070406233956.5C146B3AC49@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406233956.5C146B3AC49@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 04/06/07, "Zane H. Healy" wrote: > John Baltutis wrote: >> On 04/06/07, "Zane H. Healy" wrote: >> > >> > I'm getting ready to finally re-upgrade to 10.4. I first did the >> > upgrade the day it was released, but went back to 10.3.9 a month or >> > so later when the brand new hard drive I used died. My main reason >> > for staying on 10.3.9 is gone, due to an OpenVMS upgrade I no longer >> > have any classic Appletalk shares. >> > >> > Anyway, I am wondering what the recommended upgrade path is. I seem >> > to recall something about selecting something like move aside the >> > existing install. Does this require that I reinstall all of my >>applications? >> >> Make a bootable backup of your 10.3.9 system, pop in the Tiger install disk, >> and select the Upgrade previous version option. Than's the cleanest and won't >> muck with any of your settings or apps. Also, there's no Previous System >>folder >> creation as there is with the Archive & Install option. > > This has been my plan (I try to periodically duplicate the system disk > anyway), but I've been wondering what the advantages of the "Archive & > Install" option are. I've seen it recommended a lot in the past. At the > same time, I really don't have time to fix my settings and applications. > I'm going to be hard pressed to find enough time right now to take the > system down, run Disk Warrior on it, and then clone it and install. So my > standard solution looks like the way to go. The main advantage of A&I is that you can't do a upgrade previous version if there is no previous version. I.e., if Tiger's installed, then upgrade is unavailable. If Panther's installed, then upgrade is unavailabe if you wanted to install Panther. It's an intermediate process between upgrade and E&I, that latter which requires reinstallation of all 3rd-party stuff. From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 20:16:54 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Apr 6 20:17:02 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading to 10.4 In-Reply-To: <20070406233956.5C146B3AC49@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406233956.5C146B3AC49@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 04/06/07, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: > On 4/6/07 4:18 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >> I've been wondering what the advantages of the "Archive & Install" option >>are. >> I've seen it recommended a lot in the past. > > The advantage is that you install a fresh, clean System folder that is free > of cruft but keep your Applications, User accounts, documents, settings, > etc. Your previous System folder is named as such and is kept around in case > you need to move things over like contextual menu items or preference panes. > >> At the same time, I really don't have time to fix my settings and >> applications. > > Because Archive & Install does not carry over third-party items from your > pre-exising System, some work would be required to root around your old > System and put them in your new System. Clarification. A&I does carry over most 3rd-party stuff, unless those nasty apps put things in /System or /Library, which Apple recommends against. From MacTechLists at cox.net Fri Apr 6 20:54:00 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Fri Apr 6 20:54:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] 10.4.9 update reliable? In-Reply-To: <1DDE3D83-AE6C-4173-8532-7C350E7DD52C@internode.on.net> References: <1DDE3D83-AE6C-4173-8532-7C350E7DD52C@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <461715D8.3010904@cox.net> I run a 2.1 GHz iMac with 2.5 GB RAM. Now that I have upgraded to 10.4.9, my Acrobat professional seems to crash a lot. Acrobat 7 is part of Adobe Creative Suite 2 and yes, all updates have been applied to the Adobe software. I am considering going back to 10.4.7. SE > On Fri 75 Mar,, at 7:24 AM, Robert A. Virzi wrote: > >> I'm running 10.4.7 on my macbook pro, after rolling back from a bad >> experience with 10.4.8. Eudora and other programs were crashing >> after the update. >> >> What's the word on this update? (10.4.9) >> - Bob >> > I skipped 10.4.8 but 10.4.9 has been fine for me. TiPB 867 1 gb RAM. > > Peter Sealy > Thurgoona AUSTRALIA > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > From roy at ion.co.za Sat Apr 7 01:59:25 2007 From: roy at ion.co.za (Roy van der Westhuizen) Date: Sat Apr 7 01:59:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] WiFi hotspots Message-ID: <7C8B07D8-42BE-4E2A-8346-16BA913AE9F9@ion.co.za> I found the enquiry and sites recommended for WiFi very useful. They all checked out. I have never used them before and need to know exactly what to do. I have a 17" PB with 1G processor, running 10.4.9. I know how to turn on Airport, but nothing after that. I am going to Italy later in the month, specifically Milan and Florence. Can I just go and log on at the "Free" spots or is it recommended to buy access and if so is there universal access one can buy. Someone from Europe or more specifically Italy may be able to help. Regards, Roy From lalicata at alum.rpi.edu Sat Apr 7 06:14:09 2007 From: lalicata at alum.rpi.edu (Lee Licata) Date: Sat Apr 7 06:14:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] PC Slot Memory Limitation? Message-ID: Dear List, I am running 17" PB G4, system 10.4.9, all software up to date. In the PC slot on the side, I have a Sony Memory Stick/PC Card Adapter and normally, inside the adapter resides a 128 mb memory stick that I use to keep some important data backed up on a regular basis. Got a new camera and purchased a 4GB Memory Stick Pro Duo. It came with a Duo adapter that allows my current Memory Stick/PC Card Adapter to accept the new Memory Stick Pro Duo. However, the Mac does not recognize it, nor even see it using Disk Utility. Could the slot have a memory limitation? Or maybe the Mac OS has one that I am not aware of? Might there be a way to "force" the PB to see the new memory stick so maybe I can troubleshoot why it does not come up on the desktop? TIA Lee From macsys at mac.com Sat Apr 7 06:51:35 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Sat Apr 7 06:51:50 2007 Subject: [X4U] Auto Login Message-ID: I have a user that the auto login is not working, running X.4.9, MacBook. Computer was migrated from an old g4. It's probably just a prefs file just don't know which one, any help on this, thanks Wayne. From neil at laubenthal.net Sat Apr 7 07:14:36 2007 From: neil at laubenthal.net (Neil Laubenthal) Date: Sat Apr 7 07:14:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Auto Login In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10C5060D-9169-4965-928C-BF4EADA6CB46@laubenthal.net> System Prefs, Accounts, Login Options, automatically log in as . . . but then you probably already knew that. If it's set already . . .try disabling and rebooting then setting it again and rebooting . . . that should edit the right plist file. Deleting the right file would also work if course . . . but I don't know where this preference is stored. On Apr 7, 2007, at 09:51, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > I have a user that the auto login is not working, running X.4.9, > MacBook. Computer was migrated from an old g4. It's probably just a > prefs file just don't know which one, any help on this, thanks Wayne. > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jessup at san.rr.com Sat Apr 7 08:23:40 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Sat Apr 7 08:22:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] Auto Login In-Reply-To: <10C5060D-9169-4965-928C-BF4EADA6CB46@laubenthal.net> References: <10C5060D-9169-4965-928C-BF4EADA6CB46@laubenthal.net> Message-ID: At 10:14 AM -0400 4/7/07, Neil Laubenthal wrote: >System Prefs, Accounts, Login Options, automatically log in as . . . >but then you probably already knew that. > >If it's set already . . .try disabling and rebooting then setting it >again and rebooting . . . that should edit the right plist file. >Deleting the right file would also work if course . . . but I don't >know where this preference is stored. It's stored in: /Library/Preferences/com.apple.loginwindow.plist Daly ---------------------- From ColgateList at cox.net Sat Apr 7 08:55:20 2007 From: ColgateList at cox.net (Jim Colgate) Date: Sat Apr 7 08:52:34 2007 Subject: [X4U] Hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Actually I did a little poking around and every list on "themacintoshguy.com" went down about the 12th of March and suddenly came back up on the 4th of April. I'm glad to see things are back to normal - I've just got a lot of reading to do now to catch up. Cheers, Jim > From: nk > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." > > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:19:52 -0700 > To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." > > Subject: Re: [X4U] Hello? > > On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Collins wrote: > >> I just don't think anyone has been posting....... >> cjc >> > > I have posted to the list several times over the "quiet" period and got > nothing, not even my own posts TO the list. > > nk > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From phlbrck at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 08:59:15 2007 From: phlbrck at gmail.com (Kenneth Philbrick) Date: Sat Apr 7 08:59:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Low end speakers for Mac Mini Message-ID: I need external speaker for a mini and in rummaging through Amazon find many in the $15 to $40 category that would, no doubt, suit my needs for mostly speech but some music. Does anyone have a favorite they would recommend? Thanks for your time. Ken Philbrick From rah at shipwright.com Sat Apr 7 10:26:38 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Sat Apr 7 10:30:37 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Low end speakers for Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:59 AM -0400 4/7/07, Kenneth Philbrick wrote: >Does anyone have a favorite they would recommend? I have some Cambridge SoundWorks "multimedia" speakers that cost $35, 6 or so years ago when I got them for my g3 Lombard. Here they are: , but looks like they go for about fifty bucks, now. They plug into a headphone jack, have a (9 1/4" x 6" x 6 3/8) plastic subwoofer that sits on the floor and two little satellite cubes (3" x 3" x 3") that sit on the desk somewhere. Great sound, especially for the money. Wife keeps telling me to turn it down when I play action-movie .avis on the old dual G5. :-) Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From MacTechLists at cox.net Sat Apr 7 10:33:28 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Sat Apr 7 10:33:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] Mouse issues in 10.4.7 Message-ID: <4617D5E8.2080700@cox.net> I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 This was done to eliminate some issues with InDesign CS2 and OS 10.3.9 I did an achive and install of the new system. I rebuilt permissiions twice after it was completed. I also ran Tech Tool Pro and repaired any and all problems. Defragged the hard drive at the end. The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with her Microsoft 2-button mouse. She uses Word everyday and claims she cannot select a whole line of text the way she always has in the past. Also, to open a document from the desktop, double clicking does not seem to work. She has to right click and select open from the short cut menu. I also noticed last week on another client's new Intel iMac running 10.4.7 that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when items are clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. Has anyone experienced anything like this? SE From XPressoBean at mac.com Sat Apr 7 10:38:04 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sat Apr 7 10:38:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Low end speakers for Mac Mini In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/7/07 12:26 PM, R.A. Hettinga wrote: > They plug into a headphone jack, have a (9 1/4" x 6" x 6 3/8) plastic > subwoofer that sits on the floor and two little satellite cubes (3" x 3" x > 3") that sit on the desk somewhere. Hello, RAH -- Do these work without the sub? I'm following the thread with interest, and am hoping to glean a sub-less answer for myself. peace, Linda (yeah, that Linda -- you're the third Prius driver I've noticed on these Mac lists) From rah at shipwright.com Sat Apr 7 11:04:26 2007 From: rah at shipwright.com (R.A. Hettinga) Date: Sat Apr 7 11:13:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Low end speakers for Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:38 PM -0500 4/7/07, Linda wrote: >Do these work without the sub? I'm following the thread with interest, and >am hoping to glean a sub-less answer for myself. No. >Linda (yeah, that Linda -- you're the third Prius driver I've noticed on >these Mac lists) Prius is the new Macintosh? ;-) -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' From robertmacleay at mac.com Sat Apr 7 12:52:01 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:52:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Low end speakers for Mac Mini In-Reply-To: <20070407173036.4B1DDB4984A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: I really like the Altec Lansing brand. Unlike some of the junkmongers, AL has been making speaker systems since before there were computers. Note that speaker systems can be divided into two broad categories: those for gamers (sturdy, won't burn out when overdriven by explosions, way too much bass) and those for music listeners (accurate sound reproduction). Choose accordingly. On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 11:59:15 -0400, Kenneth Philbrick wrote: > I need external speaker for a mini and in rummaging through Amazon > find many in the $15 to $40 category that would, no doubt, suit my > needs for mostly speech but some music. > > Does anyone have a favorite they would recommend? From mark at MARKHEATH.NET Sat Apr 7 13:22:54 2007 From: mark at MARKHEATH.NET (Mark) Date: Sat Apr 7 13:23:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Low end speakers for Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Kenneth Philbrick wrote: > I need external speaker for a mini and in rummaging through Amazon > find many in the $15 to $40 category that would, no doubt, suit my > needs for mostly speech but some music. > > Does anyone have a favorite they would recommend? > > Thanks for your time. > > Ken Philbrick > _______________________________________________ For my iBook I got a pair of $15 Labtec speakers off the shelf at Walmart. The speakers sound excellent whether I'm listening to podcasts or my AAC's.v 300MHz iBook G3 700MHz iBook G3 1.33GHz iBook G4 256MB Ram 640MB Ram 512 MB Ram OS 10.3.9 OS 10.3.9 OS 10.4.9 "Laugha while you can monkeyboy." Dr. Lizardo(Bukaroo Bonzai) From phlbrck at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 14:54:24 2007 From: phlbrck at gmail.com (Kenneth Philbrick) Date: Sat Apr 7 14:54:43 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re:Low end speakers for Mac Mini In-Reply-To: <20070407173037.62FA5B49853@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070407173037.62FA5B49853@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: R.A. Hettinga wrote: > I have some Cambridge SoundWorks "multimedia" speakers that cost > $35, 6 or > so years ago when I got them for my g3 Lombard. > > Here they are: > category=mul_spk_csw&item=c1pcwzzzz>, > but looks like they go for about fifty bucks, now. Thank you so much. If memory serves those very speakers were being praised by many on this list several years back, but I could not remember the name. The order is in and only $5 shipping to South Carolina. Thanks again, Ken Philbrick From netkat at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 14:58:48 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Sat Apr 7 14:58:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re:Low end speakers for Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: <20070407173037.62FA5B49853@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <21885563a8164acf1ed677252a7fc3f9@comcast.net> On Apr 7, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Kenneth Philbrick wrote: > > Thank you so much. If memory serves those very speakers were being > praised by many on this list several years back, but I could not > remember the name. The order is in and only $5 shipping to South > Carolina. > > Thanks again, > > Ken Philbrick > you really can't go wrong with those Cambridge Soundworks products...I've either owned or heard several of them and they are all top-shelf and offer the best value per dollar by far and away over other gear I've heard. enjoy... I was going to say that the Harmon Kardon computer speakers I have would be a good choice, too...small footprint, more than enough sound, but I don't know about cost bcs an ex-girlfriend sported them to me; they had a surplus at her work...but these little guys have been kicking tail for 6 years...never a problem. HK Self-Powered Speakers...no model # given. nk From lahaber at mac.com Sun Apr 8 05:01:48 2007 From: lahaber at mac.com (Lawrence Haber) Date: Sun Apr 8 05:01:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] Can't Join Airport Network Message-ID: <265EC68B-4881-4811-82BF-25C93FC975F4@mac.com> I would appreciate some help with my 700mHz 15" G4 iMac. Whenever I attempt to join an airport network I get an error message "There was an error in join the Airport network "name of network". I get the option to either "Try again" or "OK", but no success in trying again. I have thrown away my airport preferences countless times. And now for some specifics: this model uses the original type of Airport card. the machine does see the card both from within the System Profiler and from within Internet Connection. I can "see" the networks out there and can attempt to join, I just can't join. And not for the truly weird: thinking that there was something really strange and messed up, I reinstalled the OS (10.4 and 10.3) and during the initial phase after re-installation of the OS, the airport connection worked fine and I was able to download lots of updates. And, during several restart sequences, the airport connection continued to work just fine. But after a nice long sleep overnight, upon reawakening the airport can no longer connect. This occurred twice since I attempted to reinstall the OS twice, once to 10.4 and most recently to 10.3 The inability to connect does not impact two other machines and whether it is my WEP protected network, or my neighbors open network, doesn't make a difference. I would appreciate whatever suggestions you all might have From XPressoBean at mac.com Sun Apr 8 07:21:21 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sun Apr 8 07:21:35 2007 Subject: [X4U] Can't Join Airport Network In-Reply-To: <265EC68B-4881-4811-82BF-25C93FC975F4@mac.com> Message-ID: On 4/8/07 7:01 AM, Lawrence Haber wrote: > I have thrown away my airport preferences countless times. And now > for some specifics: this model uses the original type of Airport > card. the machine does see the card both from within the System > Profiler and from within Internet Connection. I can "see" the > networks out there and can attempt to join, I just can't join. We have this occur with my partner's TiBook 400, which uses the original Airport card in it (like yours). Our network uses a D-Link DI624 (which is 802.11g capable). We reboot the router and he can join the network just fine until the next time it happens. He's running OS X 10.3.9. ~Linda From winstonworks at sympatico.ca Sun Apr 8 07:50:41 2007 From: winstonworks at sympatico.ca (Winston MacKelvie) Date: Sun Apr 8 07:52:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] Can't Join Airport Network In-Reply-To: <265EC68B-4881-4811-82BF-25C93FC975F4@mac.com> References: <265EC68B-4881-4811-82BF-25C93FC975F4@mac.com> Message-ID: <8E48AC8A-4890-4C33-BCEB-F42AAEB4EE7F@sympatico.ca> Not much help probably, but I've often had to reset Sharing prefs to Start, on a system restart. Winston From tabdave at ca.rr.com Sun Apr 8 11:00:10 2007 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Sun Apr 8 11:00:22 2007 Subject: [X4U] Why is email filtered to trash? Message-ID: Hello Everyone, OK, a weird thing just started occurring. I'm using 10.4 with Apple Mail. Suddenly, I started having a few emails being filtered to my Trash folder when downloading them from the ISP's server. At first, it was one particular guy, who has sent me emails before without a problem. Suddenly, his emails were filtered to my Trash folder, without me even looking at them. Then, yesterday, one email from the list, got filtered to the trash as well. I have no filters set up to do this, and these emails are not marked as Junk mail. Anyone have any ideas? I'd like to forward them to someone to see if it does it on anyone elses machine as well. Thanks, David From carolwm at netins.net Sun Apr 8 13:07:02 2007 From: carolwm at netins.net (Carol Weber Mckee) Date: Sun Apr 8 13:08:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: E0mail Gilter In-Reply-To: <20070408180021.7847CB5BCB8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070408180021.7847CB5BCB8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <2cf83835d3341d4befaa137988806804@netins.net> om: Crandon David Subject: [X4U] Why is email filtered to trash? To: "A casual user. place to discuss Mac OS X for the" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello Everyone, OK, a weird thing just started occurring. I'm using 10.4 with Apple Mail. Suddenly, I started having a few emails being filtered to my Trash folder when downloading them from the ISP's server. At first, it was one particular guy, who has sent me emails before without a problem. Suddenly, his emails were filtered to my Trash folder, without me even looking at them. Then, yesterday, one email from the list, got filtered to the trash as well. I have no filters set up to do this, and these emails are not marked as Junk mail. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- -David, has your service provider set up a new spam filter? Mine did this a couple of weeks ago. I set up my spam filter preferences so they stay in the Spam folder on the ISP's website. I could have set it to put all the supposed spam mails in the trash. but a few legitimate e-mails are seen as spam. You should be able to go to your ISP's website and read your mail. Carol From luomat at gmail.com Sun Apr 8 14:36:47 2007 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Sun Apr 8 14:37:25 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Kernel panic when removing Cruzer In-Reply-To: <1e371ee2ea9ea763dca1e69534042409@comcast.net> References: <1e371ee2ea9ea763dca1e69534042409@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mar 19, 2007, at 8:10 PM, nk wrote: > I have a SanDisk cruzer I've been using without issue for about a > year and half now... > > today, I got 2 kernel panics on separate occasions after pulling > the Cruzer out of the Keyboard USB port, *AFTER* ejecting the Cruzer.. > > anyone else ever experience this? Do you have the U3 stuff installed? If so you might try getting rid of that. http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ From keith_w at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 9 00:10:49 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Mon Apr 9 00:11:02 2007 Subject: [X4U] Why is email filtered to trash? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4619E6F9.1010003@dslextreme.com> Hi David, Crandon David wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > OK, a weird thing just started occurring. I'm using 10.4 with Apple Mail. Is that OS 10.4.0? Or some later dot-release? > Suddenly, I started having a few emails being filtered to my Trash > folder when downloading them from the ISP's server. I aask because I have had the identical thing happen to me. I have 10.4.9. I use DSLExtreme.com as an ISP, so it seems it's not the ISP driving these routing errors. And if not the ISP, who? > At first, it was one particular guy, who has sent me emails before > without a problem. Suddenly, his emails were filtered to my Trash > folder, without me even looking at them. > > Then, yesterday, one email from the list, got filtered to the trash as > well. > > I have no filters set up to do this, and these emails are not marked as > Junk mail. I have had identical routing errors happen, and it's totally unexplainable to me. My ISP has a WebMail area set up for it's members, which up to now I have never used, and it was only when I went there that I found all these missing messages. Like you, originally one person was shunted aside to the ISP's Junk folder. Now it contains messages from various people... Like you, I had NOT filtered any of these folks, so what's happening? I use Mosilla's SeaMonkey suite for my email and internet handling application, not Apple Mail, so that's totally different, too. > Anyone have any ideas? > > I'd like to forward them to someone to see if it does it on anyone elses > machine as well. > > Thanks, > > David I'm totally puzzled by this David. Makes no sense to me at all. I have nowhere logical to turn for answers, either... Seemingly, the only similar items we both use is an Apple Macintosh computer, and Apple's OSX Tiger operating system. keith whaley From ms53 at optonline.net Mon Apr 9 01:32:39 2007 From: ms53 at optonline.net (Mitchell Senft) Date: Mon Apr 9 01:32:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] dvd to audio ripper??? Message-ID: <88FC2EB8-BE92-4AA7-92C3-E417B3D24996@optonline.net> Been trying to find an app that would convert a concert DVD into audi for CD and iPod, preferably track by track. And preferably freeware or at least reasonably priced. Googled and Googled and checked VersionTracker and one or two other sites and know success. Can anyone recommend something?? Thanks, Mitchell From macmonster at myrealbox.com Mon Apr 9 04:31:29 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Mon Apr 9 04:31:59 2007 Subject: [X4U] Why is email filtered to trash? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52D03024-DCC7-44EB-9A8D-29E5C288988F@myrealbox.com> On 8 Apr 2007, at 19:00, Crandon David wrote: > ... > Suddenly, I started having a few emails being filtered to my Trash > folder when downloading them from the ISP's server. > > At first, it was one particular guy, who has sent me emails before > without a problem. Suddenly, his emails were filtered to my Trash > folder, without me even looking at them. > > Then, yesterday, one email from the list, got filtered to the trash > as well. > > I have no filters set up to do this, and these emails are not > marked as Junk mail. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > I'd like to forward them to someone to see if it does it on anyone > elses machine as well. Forwarding the messages to someone else changes their contents, so the same rules no longer apply. IMO this is most likely a bug that's local to your machine or user - probably a corrupt set of filter rules in Mail. Firstly: go to Mail > Preferences > Rules and untick the "active" checkbox for all rules that you DO have. Does the problem still occur? Secondly: in Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Advanced, ensure that the "Remove copy from server after retrieving message" is set to leave messages on the server for at least a few days. Then go to the blue Apple in the top left corner of the screen & choose "log out David". You may need to create another user on your computer first, or be able to log in to your wife's user account, but set up the same POP3 account in Mail app as another user. Does the problem still occur? Stroller. From MacTechLists at cox.net Mon Apr 9 07:56:37 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Mon Apr 9 07:56:40 2007 Subject: [X4U] PC Slot Memory Limitation? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <461A5425.2000808@cox.net> A friend has this same problem on a new iMac G5, 2.1 GHz. The only way he can retrieve images off the Memory Stick Pro Duo is by hooking the USB cable from the camera to the computer. He dislikes doing that, but his Memory card reader just cannot see the memory stick. Sam Lee Licata wrote: > Dear List, > > I am running 17" PB G4, system 10.4.9, all software up to date. > > In the PC slot on the side, I have a Sony Memory Stick/PC Card > Adapter and normally, inside the adapter resides a 128 mb memory > stick that I use to keep some important data backed up on a regular > basis. > > Got a new camera and purchased a 4GB Memory Stick Pro Duo. It came > with a Duo adapter that allows my current Memory Stick/PC Card > Adapter to accept the new Memory Stick Pro Duo. > > However, the Mac does not recognize it, nor even see it using Disk > Utility. > > Could the slot have a memory limitation? Or maybe the Mac OS has one > that I am not aware of? > > Might there be a way to "force" the PB to see the new memory stick so > maybe I can troubleshoot why it does not come up on the desktop? > > TIA > > Lee > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From MacTechLists at cox.net Mon Apr 9 07:58:10 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Mon Apr 9 07:58:14 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 Message-ID: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> I previously posted this but had no response at all. I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with her Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she cannot select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. Also to open a document from the desktop double clicking does not seem to work. She has to right click and select open from the short cut menu. I did an achive and install of the new system. I rebuilt permissions twice after it was completed. I also ran Tech Tool Pro and repaired any and all problems. I also noticed last week on another client's new iMac running 10.4.7, that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when items are clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. Any ideas? Sam From lstnmt at bresnan.net Mon Apr 9 08:03:29 2007 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Mon Apr 9 08:03:36 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> References: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> Message-ID: <3F270C65-F25D-45DB-93E8-87C8E628ED3D@bresnan.net> Did she try re-installing the MS mouse drivers? Jens Jens Selvig ...lost in Montana... lstnmt@bresnan.net On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:58 AM, SE wrote: > I previously posted this but had no response at all. > > I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS > 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 > > The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with > her Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she > cannot select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. > Also to open a document from the desktop double clicking does not > seem to work. She has to right click and select open from the short > cut menu. > > I did an achive and install of the new system. I rebuilt > permissions twice after it was completed. I also ran Tech Tool Pro > and repaired any and all problems. > > I also noticed last week on another client's new iMac running > 10.4.7, that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when > items are clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. From MacTechLists at cox.net Mon Apr 9 08:32:00 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Mon Apr 9 08:32:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: <3F270C65-F25D-45DB-93E8-87C8E628ED3D@bresnan.net> References: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> <3F270C65-F25D-45DB-93E8-87C8E628ED3D@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <461A5C70.6010900@cox.net> No mouse drivers were ever installed. It worked fine in 10.3.9. And another person in the department was upgraded to 10.4.7 and his 2-button MS mouse works fine. No drivers were installed on his G4 either. The only variable is he has an AGP G5, upgraded with a 1.4 GHz Sonnet processor. Her computer is a MDD G4. Both have a gig of RAM. Sam Jens Selvig wrote: > Did she try re-installing the MS mouse drivers? > > Jens > > > Jens Selvig > ...lost in Montana... > > lstnmt@bresnan.net > > On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:58 AM, SE wrote: > >> I previously posted this but had no response at all. >> >> I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS >> 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 >> >> The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with >> her Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she >> cannot select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. Also >> to open a document from the desktop double clicking does not seem to >> work. She has to right click and select open from the short cut menu. >> >> I did an achive and install of the new system. I rebuilt permissions >> twice after it was completed. I also ran Tech Tool Pro and repaired >> any and all problems. >> >> I also noticed last week on another client's new iMac running >> 10.4.7, that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when >> items are clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u From MacTechLists at cox.net Mon Apr 9 08:33:24 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Mon Apr 9 08:33:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: <461A5C70.6010900@cox.net> References: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> <3F270C65-F25D-45DB-93E8-87C8E628ED3D@bresnan.net> <461A5C70.6010900@cox.net> Message-ID: <461A5CC4.1020306@cox.net> Sorry for the type error. He has a G4 AGP graphics. Sam SE wrote: > No mouse drivers were ever installed. It worked fine in 10.3.9. And > another person in the department was upgraded to 10.4.7 and his > 2-button MS mouse works fine. No drivers were installed on his G4 > either. The only variable is he has an AGP G5, upgraded with a 1.4 GHz > Sonnet processor. Her computer is a MDD G4. Both have a gig of RAM. > > Sam > > Jens Selvig wrote: > >> Did she try re-installing the MS mouse drivers? >> >> Jens >> >> >> Jens Selvig >> ...lost in Montana... >> >> lstnmt@bresnan.net >> >> On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:58 AM, SE wrote: >> >>> I previously posted this but had no response at all. >>> >>> I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS >>> 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 >>> >>> The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with >>> her Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she >>> cannot select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. >>> Also to open a document from the desktop double clicking does not >>> seem to work. She has to right click and select open from the short >>> cut menu. >>> >>> I did an achive and install of the new system. I rebuilt >>> permissions twice after it was completed. I also ran Tech Tool Pro >>> and repaired any and all problems. >>> >>> I also noticed last week on another client's new iMac running >>> 10.4.7, that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when >>> items are clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From lstnmt at bresnan.net Mon Apr 9 08:39:02 2007 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Mon Apr 9 08:39:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: <461A5C70.6010900@cox.net> References: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> <3F270C65-F25D-45DB-93E8-87C8E628ED3D@bresnan.net> <461A5C70.6010900@cox.net> Message-ID: I guess my hint is to try installing the MS mouse drivers. Or get a different mouse and see if the problem persists. Jens Jens Selvig ...lost in Montana... lstnmt@bresnan.net On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:32 AM, SE wrote: > No mouse drivers were ever installed. It worked fine in 10.3.9. And > another person in the department was upgraded to 10.4.7 and his 2- > button MS mouse works fine. No drivers were installed on his G4 > either. The only variable is he has an AGP G5, upgraded with a 1.4 > GHz Sonnet processor. Her computer is a MDD G4. Both have a gig of > RAM. From mark at astroprinting.com Mon Apr 9 08:49:38 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Mon Apr 9 08:49:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] OSX diaporama: how many pictures? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66CE51D8-32EA-485E-9626-2A4A9FD3E07E@astroprinting.com> What's the diaporama funtion of OSX? I can't find it anywhere. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 6-Apr-07, at 11:01 AM, Germain M. wrote: > Hello to the members of the list, > > Glad to see it's still alive. When using the buil-in diaporama > function of OSX, I came to notice there's a maximum number limit of > pictures that can be displayed as a slide-show. Yesterday I had a > folder of 400+ photos and even if I select all, only a portion of > them do really appear in the diaporama. I didn't count them up > anyhow. Question: is there a maximum number of elements that can be > displayed in the diaporama? Never heard of that before. > > Thanks > > Germain > > > iMac Intel 2.0 ghz, 17 inches > 1 gig RAM, 160 gig HD > OSX 10.4.9 French > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From meged at earthlink.net Mon Apr 9 10:00:44 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:00:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] OSX diaporama: how many pictures? In-Reply-To: <66CE51D8-32EA-485E-9626-2A4A9FD3E07E@astroprinting.com> Message-ID: On 4/9/07 8:49 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > What's the diaporama funtion of OSX? I can't find it anywhere. Apparently it is another word for slideshow (French? German?) In 10.4 if you select a group of image files in the Finder, you can choose Slideshow from the contextual menu or Action button. -- Eddie Hargreaves From balfors at kaadesigngroup.com Mon Apr 9 10:03:21 2007 From: balfors at kaadesigngroup.com (Barbara Alfors) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:03:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: <20070409153338.4DE50B6BEB7@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: on 4/9/07 8:33 AM, SE wrote: > I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS 10.3.9 > to 10.4.7 > > The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with her > Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she cannot > select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. Also to open a > document from the desktop double clicking does not seem to work. She has > to right click and select open from the short cut menu. Did you try testing another mouse to be sure it's not coincidence? Or you could open the mouse prefs and change something - I find this is often enough to get the system to fix random quirks. -b From jonkreisler at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 10:05:19 2007 From: jonkreisler at gmail.com (Jon Kreisler) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:05:29 2007 Subject: [X4U] dvd to audio ripper??? In-Reply-To: <88FC2EB8-BE92-4AA7-92C3-E417B3D24996@optonline.net> References: <88FC2EB8-BE92-4AA7-92C3-E417B3D24996@optonline.net> Message-ID: <19edefcb0704091005k44646cb4t9cf9fe6c840ec6ef@mail.gmail.com> MacTheRipper (MTR) has the ability to extract DVD audio to AC3 files. http://www.mactheripper.org/ You may then want to convert the AC3 files to some other format: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mAC3dec/ Jon On 4/9/07, Mitchell Senft wrote: > > Been trying to find an app that would convert a concert DVD into audi > for CD and iPod, preferably track by track. And preferably freeware > or at least reasonably priced. Googled and Googled and checked > VersionTracker and one or two other sites and know success. Can > anyone recommend something?? > > Thanks, > > Mitchell > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070409/8c69b127/attachment.html From suingmachine at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 10:11:17 2007 From: suingmachine at gmail.com (Rob Kendall) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:11:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: dvd to audio ripper??? Message-ID: <935477380704091011u4d8cd0fdgacaeb63eb8edfbbf@mail.gmail.com> I haven't used it in a very long time, but Audio Hijack should do what you want. Not sure if it re-converts the audio from source (DVD), or actually 'rips' the original file, but for $16 may be sufficient. -Rob > 4. dvd to audio ripper??? (Mitchell Senft) > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 04:32:39 -0400 > From: Mitchell Senft > Subject: [X4U] dvd to audio ripper??? > To: x4u@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Message-ID: <88FC2EB8-BE92-4AA7-92C3-E417B3D24996@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Been trying to find an app that would convert a concert DVD into audi > for CD and iPod, preferably track by track. And preferably freeware > or at least reasonably priced. Googled and Googled and checked > VersionTracker and one or two other sites and know success. Can > anyone recommend something?? > > Thanks, > > Mitchell > > > ------------------------------ > From apple.mail.list at oryx.cc Mon Apr 9 10:15:45 2007 From: apple.mail.list at oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:15:57 2007 Subject: [X4U] full speed fans after 10.4.9 upgrade Message-ID: <461A74C1.3090804@oryx.cc> I recently upgraded my wife's computer from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9, and since then, when powered on the fans are on continual full speed. If I do a warm reboot after the initial boot, fans operate normally. Her computer is a dual 2.7 Ghz G5 tower. Keyboard and mouse are the OEM units that shipped with the computer. No other accessories are attached. TIA for any pointers. Jerry K From earle.jones at comcast.net Mon Apr 9 10:20:42 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:20:52 2007 Subject: [X4U] OSX diaporama: how many pictures? In-Reply-To: <66CE51D8-32EA-485E-9626-2A4A9FD3E07E@astroprinting.com> References: <66CE51D8-32EA-485E-9626-2A4A9FD3E07E@astroprinting.com> Message-ID: <344FD3E8-C282-43AD-9253-4E8F178645C7@comcast.net> On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > What's the diaporama funtion of OSX? I can't find it anywhere. > > Mark Des Cotes * The only place I can find the word 'diaporama' is in the French language version of the Toast Titanium help manual. It probably means 'slideshow' in French. Both iPhoto and Graphic Converter have good slideshow functions. earle * From jeff at carruthers.com Mon Apr 9 10:35:33 2007 From: jeff at carruthers.com (Jeff Carruthers) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:35:42 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: dvd to audio ripper??? In-Reply-To: <935477380704091011u4d8cd0fdgacaeb63eb8edfbbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <935477380704091011u4d8cd0fdgacaeb63eb8edfbbf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13F19F5B-075F-4225-937E-5B903116B9AF@carruthers.com> On Apr 9, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Rob Kendall wrote: > I haven't used it in a very long time, but Audio Hijack should do what > you want. Not sure if it re-converts the audio from source (DVD), or > actually 'rips' the original file, but for $16 may be sufficient. > > -Rob > >> >> Been trying to find an app that would convert a concert DVD into audi >> for CD and iPod, preferably track by track. And preferably freeware >> or at least reasonably priced. Googled and Googled and checked >> VersionTracker and one or two other sites and know success. Can >> anyone recommend something?? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mitchell >> >> As I understand it, Audio Hijack records the audio that is playing on your computer. You choose the source application, bit rate and file type, and hit record. Don't think it is interacting directly the the DVD (ripping) the way MactheRipper does. Jeff ----------------------------------------------- Carruthers Communications Tel: 520-625-1913 292 N. Camino del Vate, Green Valley, AZ 85614 www.carruthers.com e-mail: jeff@carruthers.com From rgilmor at uwo.ca Mon Apr 9 10:44:51 2007 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Mon Apr 9 10:45:57 2007 Subject: [X4U] List Dies Comes Back to Life Message-ID: What?s up with the list? Why does it die suddenly then all the posts flood back. I know it does this every now and then anybody know why? Simply curious Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070409/d65b7faa/attachment-0001.html From MacTechLists at cox.net Mon Apr 9 09:08:42 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Mon Apr 9 11:22:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: References: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> <3F270C65-F25D-45DB-93E8-87C8E628ED3D@bresnan.net> <461A5C70.6010900@cox.net> Message-ID: <461A650A.5040201@cox.net> Was planning on taking a different mouse to try tomorrow. Will let you know. The newspaper will not allow installation of MS drivers on the Mac system due to years of previous prioblems. Sam Jens Selvig wrote: > I guess my hint is to try installing the MS mouse drivers. Or get a > different mouse and see if the problem persists. > > Jens > > > Jens Selvig > ...lost in Montana... > > lstnmt@bresnan.net > > > > On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:32 AM, SE wrote: > >> No mouse drivers were ever installed. It worked fine in 10.3.9. And >> another person in the department was upgraded to 10.4.7 and his 2- >> button MS mouse works fine. No drivers were installed on his G4 >> either. The only variable is he has an AGP G5, upgraded with a 1.4 >> GHz Sonnet processor. Her computer is a MDD G4. Both have a gig of RAM. > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From nickscalise at cox.net Mon Apr 9 11:37:22 2007 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Mon Apr 9 11:37:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] full speed fans after 10.4.9 upgrade Message-ID: <32798320.1176143842209.JavaMail.root@centrmwml08.mgt.cox.net> ---- Jerry Kemp wrote: > I recently upgraded my wife's computer from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9, and since > then, when powered on the fans are on continual full speed. If I do a > warm reboot after the initial boot, fans operate normally. > > Her computer is a dual 2.7 Ghz G5 tower. Keyboard and mouse are the OEM > units that shipped with the computer. No other accessories are attached. > > TIA for any pointers. Shut the computer down and thne removed the power cable from the back of the machine. Not from the wall, but from the back of the machine. Let it sit for a minute or two and then plug it back in and restart. Let us know if that fixes it. -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From apple.mail.list at oryx.cc Mon Apr 9 11:46:52 2007 From: apple.mail.list at oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp) Date: Mon Apr 9 11:47:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] full speed fans after 10.4.9 upgrade In-Reply-To: <32798320.1176143842209.JavaMail.root@centrmwml08.mgt.cox.net> References: <32798320.1176143842209.JavaMail.root@centrmwml08.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <461A8A1C.9040909@oryx.cc> Thank you for the email. I will try this tonight when I get home, then post an update tomorrow. Jerry K Nick Scalise wrote: > ---- Jerry Kemp wrote: >> I recently upgraded my wife's computer from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9, and since >> then, when powered on the fans are on continual full speed. If I do a >> warm reboot after the initial boot, fans operate normally. >> >> Her computer is a dual 2.7 Ghz G5 tower. Keyboard and mouse are the OEM >> units that shipped with the computer. No other accessories are attached. >> >> TIA for any pointers. > > Shut the computer down and thne removed the power cable from the back of the machine. Not from the wall, but from the back of the machine. > > Let it sit for a minute or two and then plug it back in and restart. > > Let us know if that fixes it. > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net From apple.mail.list at oryx.cc Mon Apr 9 13:52:38 2007 From: apple.mail.list at oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp) Date: Mon Apr 9 13:52:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] full speed fans after 10.4.9 upgrade In-Reply-To: <32798320.1176143842209.JavaMail.root@centrmwml08.mgt.cox.net> References: <32798320.1176143842209.JavaMail.root@centrmwml08.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <461AA796.2020303@oryx.cc> I emailed my wife, and she did the power cord thing (as described below), and has indicated back to me that it has resolved the issues with her G5. thank you, Jerry K Nick Scalise wrote: > ---- Jerry Kemp wrote: >> I recently upgraded my wife's computer from 10.4.8 to 10.4.9, and since >> then, when powered on the fans are on continual full speed. If I do a >> warm reboot after the initial boot, fans operate normally. >> >> Her computer is a dual 2.7 Ghz G5 tower. Keyboard and mouse are the OEM >> units that shipped with the computer. No other accessories are attached. >> >> TIA for any pointers. > > Shut the computer down and thne removed the power cable from the back of the machine. Not from the wall, but from the back of the machine. > > Let it sit for a minute or two and then plug it back in and restart. > > Let us know if that fixes it. > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net From keith_w at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 9 14:15:14 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Mon Apr 9 14:15:22 2007 Subject: [X4U] full speed fans after 10.4.9 upgrade In-Reply-To: <461AA796.2020303@oryx.cc> References: <32798320.1176143842209.JavaMail.root@centrmwml08.mgt.cox.net> <461AA796.2020303@oryx.cc> Message-ID: <461AACE2.6030707@dslextreme.com> Jerry Kemp wrote: > I emailed my wife... As an attachment or was it inline? Did she get there okay? >...and she did the power cord thing (as described > below), and has indicated back to me that it has resolved the issues > with her G5. > > thank you, > > Jerry K ' keith whaley From richards at spawar.navy.mil Mon Apr 9 14:42:10 2007 From: richards at spawar.navy.mil (John F. Richardson) Date: Mon Apr 9 14:44:48 2007 Subject: Is this list alive - Last Message Received was: [X4U] Tvisto HardDrive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01b601c77aef$ed8a1350$f5643180@doc> Hello, The lists died. The web site seemed to be alive. Many people assumed it was permanently dead and migrated to the following. macosx-support@yahoogroups.com John F. Richardson From nickscalise at cox.net Mon Apr 9 17:30:27 2007 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Mon Apr 9 17:30:37 2007 Subject: Is this list alive - Last Message Received was: [X4U] Tvisto HardDrive In-Reply-To: <01b601c77aef$ed8a1350$f5643180@doc> References: <01b601c77aef$ed8a1350$f5643180@doc> Message-ID: <0A3C5EA7-70CE-4818-8038-CBB3E4653138@cox.net> On Apr 9, 2007, at 4:42 PM, John F. Richardson wrote: > The lists died. The web site seemed to be alive. Many people > assumed it was > permanently dead and migrated to the following. > > macosx-support@yahoogroups.com I'd rather live through no posts than read that one. -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From apple.mail.list at oryx.cc Mon Apr 9 17:48:25 2007 From: apple.mail.list at oryx.cc (Jerry Kemp) Date: Mon Apr 9 17:48:33 2007 Subject: Is this list alive - Last Message Received was: [X4U] Tvisto HardDrive In-Reply-To: <0A3C5EA7-70CE-4818-8038-CBB3E4653138@cox.net> References: <01b601c77aef$ed8a1350$f5643180@doc> <0A3C5EA7-70CE-4818-8038-CBB3E4653138@cox.net> Message-ID: <461ADED9.2060009@oryx.cc> same here. I like yahoo.com for a search engine, but their mailing list support leaves a lot to be desired. I am glad that this list is back up. Jerry K Nick Scalise wrote: > On Apr 9, 2007, at 4:42 PM, John F. Richardson wrote: > >> The lists died. The web site seemed to be alive. Many people assumed >> it was >> permanently dead and migrated to the following. >> >> macosx-support@yahoogroups.com > > I'd rather live through no posts than read that one. > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From mac at kapellos.com Tue Apr 10 03:22:44 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Tue Apr 10 03:23:08 2007 Subject: Is this list alive - Last Message Received was: [X4U] Tvisto HardDrive In-Reply-To: <461ADED9.2060009@oryx.cc> References: <01b601c77aef$ed8a1350$f5643180@doc> <0A3C5EA7-70CE-4818-8038-CBB3E4653138@cox.net> <461ADED9.2060009@oryx.cc> Message-ID: On 10 avr. 07, at 02:48, Jerry Kemp wrote: > same here. I like yahoo.com for a search engine, but their mailing > list support leaves a lot to be desired. I am glad that this list > is back up. > listmom has been quiet too, no? i sent him a mail last week and still haven't received an answer? strange alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: From mac at kapellos.com Tue Apr 10 08:35:53 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Tue Apr 10 08:36:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] OT - reselling software Message-ID: <12175342-A231-41BB-8E27-090E8F4F4868@kapellos.com> hi i bought aperture 1.5 a few months ago, and would like to sell it. i've been playing around with lightroom 1.0 and i think i prefer it (speed, ease of use, etc) to apple's product. my question: how does one go about re-selling software. do i have to ask apple's permission? or can i just put everything in the product box (cds, manuals, serial number, etc) and sell it? thank you for any info alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: From netkat at comcast.net Tue Apr 10 08:39:58 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Tue Apr 10 08:40:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] OT - reselling software In-Reply-To: <12175342-A231-41BB-8E27-090E8F4F4868@kapellos.com> References: <12175342-A231-41BB-8E27-090E8F4F4868@kapellos.com> Message-ID: when you sell your copy of the software, you're actually transferring the license to USE that copy. so, you take the money from the person buying it, and you hand over ALL discs and manuals and whatever was in the box when you opened it, as well as notifying apple that you are transferring the license to that new person, with all their info..name, phone, etc. be very much like transferring apple care to somebody who buys your Mac with applecare still activated. then, of course, apple assumes and expects that you remove every speck of that software from all of your computers. others may have comments to add, but I believe I've nutshelled it for ya. nk On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:35 AM, alexandre wrote: > hi > > i bought aperture 1.5 a few months ago, and would like to sell it. > i've been playing around with lightroom 1.0 and i think i prefer it > (speed, ease of use, etc) to apple's product. > > my question: how does one go about re-selling software. do i have to > ask apple's permission? or can i just put everything in the product > box (cds, manuals, serial number, etc) and sell it? > > thank you for any info > > alexandre > :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: > :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From tabdave at ca.rr.com Tue Apr 10 11:12:24 2007 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Tue Apr 10 11:12:39 2007 Subject: Is this list alive - Last Message Received was: [X4U] Tvisto HardDrive In-Reply-To: References: <01b601c77aef$ed8a1350$f5643180@doc> <0A3C5EA7-70CE-4818-8038-CBB3E4653138@cox.net> <461ADED9.2060009@oryx.cc> Message-ID: the listmom for these lists has always been very "quiet". On Apr 10, 2007, at 3:22 AM, alexandre wrote: > > On 10 avr. 07, at 02:48, Jerry Kemp wrote: > >> same here. I like yahoo.com for a search engine, but their >> mailing list support leaves a lot to be desired. I am glad that >> this list is back up. >> > > listmom has been quiet too, no? > > i sent him a mail last week and still haven't received an answer? > > strange > > > alexandre > :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: > :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From healyzh at aracnet.com Tue Apr 10 12:59:24 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Tue Apr 10 11:59:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] OT - reselling software In-Reply-To: References: <12175342-A231-41BB-8E27-090E8F4F4868@kapellos.com> Message-ID: >when you sell your copy of the software, you're actually >transferring the license to USE that copy. >so, you take the money from the person buying it, and you hand over >ALL discs and manuals and whatever was in the box when you opened >it, as well as notifying apple that you are transferring the license >to that new person, with all their info..name, phone, etc. > >be very much like transferring apple care to somebody who buys your >Mac with applecare still activated. > >then, of course, apple assumes and expects that you remove every >speck of that software from all of your computers. > >others may have comments to add, but I believe I've nutshelled it for ya. I believe you should also provide them with a letter that states that you are transferring your license to them. I've not dealt with this in about 10 years. At that time I bought a couple pieces of software from a local Mac/PC store, only to find out that they were already registered, and that they were registered to the store. Of course they didn't tell me this, the software publisher did. IIRC, Quark wanted the signed statement that the license had been transferred. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From SWANSOAC at uwec.edu Tue Apr 10 13:31:15 2007 From: SWANSOAC at uwec.edu (Swanson, Andrew C.) Date: Tue Apr 10 13:31:28 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: <461A5482.1030602@cox.net> Message-ID: This first issue sounds to me like the Double-Click speed in Keyboard & Mouse preferences has been made very fast and she needs it slower. This may also be her issue with Word Andy On 4/9/07 9:58 AM, "SE" wrote: I previously posted this but had no response at all. I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with her Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she cannot select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. Also to open a document from the desktop double clicking does not seem to work. She has to right click and select open from the short cut menu. I did an achive and install of the new system. I rebuilt permissions twice after it was completed. I also ran Tech Tool Pro and repaired any and all problems. I also noticed last week on another client's new iMac running 10.4.7, that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when items are clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. Any ideas? Sam _______________________________________________ X4U mailing list X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070410/cac3cc2e/attachment.html From mac at kapellos.com Tue Apr 10 13:56:04 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Tue Apr 10 13:56:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] OT - reselling software In-Reply-To: References: <12175342-A231-41BB-8E27-090E8F4F4868@kapellos.com> Message-ID: On 10 avr. 07, at 21:59, Zane H. Healy wrote: >> when you sell your copy of the software, you're actually >> transferring the license to USE that copy. >> so, you take the money from the person buying it, and you hand >> over ALL discs and manuals and whatever was in the box when you >> opened it, as well as notifying apple that you are transferring >> the license to that new person, with all their info..name, phone, >> etc. >> >> be very much like transferring apple care to somebody who buys >> your Mac with applecare still activated. >> >> then, of course, apple assumes and expects that you remove every >> speck of that software from all of your computers. >> >> others may have comments to add, but I believe I've nutshelled it >> for ya. > > I believe you should also provide them with a letter that states > that you are transferring your license to them. I've not dealt > with this in about 10 years. At that time I bought a couple pieces > of software from a local Mac/PC store, only to find out that they > were already registered, and that they were registered to the > store. Of course they didn't tell me this, the software publisher > did. IIRC, Quark wanted the signed statement that the license had > been transferred. > > Zane > thanks to both of you for your answers. best regards alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: From MacTechLists at cox.net Tue Apr 10 16:45:20 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Tue Apr 10 16:45:30 2007 Subject: [X4U] mouse issues after upgrade to 10.4.7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <461C2190.5040802@cox.net> Andy, that is exactly what the problem was. I was not there until today to check the obvious. I had posted to inquire if there were any other problems experienced just in case it was not a preference issue. Was very glad it was so simple. I had more important things to do today. Sam Swanson, Andrew C. wrote: > This first issue sounds to me like the Double-Click speed in Keyboard > & Mouse preferences has been made very fast and she needs it slower. > This may also be her issue with Word > Andy > > > On 4/9/07 9:58 AM, "SE" wrote: > > I previously posted this but had no response at all. > > I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS > 10.3.9 > to 10.4.7 > > The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things > with her > Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she cannot > select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. Also to > open a > document from the desktop double clicking does not seem to work. > She has > to right click and select open from the short cut menu. > > I did an achive and install of the new system. I rebuilt permissions > twice after it was completed. I also ran Tech Tool Pro and > repaired any > and all problems. > > I also noticed last week on another client's new iMac running 10.4.7, > that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when items are > clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. > > Any ideas? > > Sam > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070410/6958d556/attachment.html From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Tue Apr 10 18:36:07 2007 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Tue Apr 10 18:37:17 2007 Subject: [X4U] Welcome back everyone [NOISE] In-Reply-To: <577F8C15-264A-4AE5-A884-773AD6FB2A85@mac.com> Message-ID: My image looked more like the Bahamas! Coj Michael Elliott Sent by: x4u-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 07/04/07 04:17 AM Please respond to "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." To "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." cc Subject [X4U] Welcome back everyone List Mom...do you ever read these posts? What happened? I had this image of the List Mom in the hospital somewhere. Michael From Rashton at telus.net Wed Apr 11 05:31:12 2007 From: Rashton at telus.net (Robert Ashton) Date: Wed Apr 11 05:31:30 2007 Subject: [X4U] photoshop cs quitting Message-ID: I have a friend that has a G4 Running 10.3.9, 448 meg ram and is running photoshop cs version 8.0. Over the last couple of weeks every time she goes to save photoshop quits. We have tried DisableGetInfoComment.plugin. We have deleted and reinstalled. We have created a new user. With a new user it did save 3 times without quitting but it went back to quitting. At this moment it looks like a wipe and reload which I 'm not looking forward to doing. Any ideas on how to fix this would really be appreciated.. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070411/022e62bd/attachment.html From meged at earthlink.net Wed Apr 11 10:52:03 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Wed Apr 11 10:52:44 2007 Subject: [X4U] photoshop cs quitting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't know for certain if it would solve your friend's problem with Photoshop CS quitting, but I highly recommend putting more RAM in that machine. I don't recommend running OS X on anything less than 512MB and if you're going to use Photoshop I recommend having at least 1GB installed. On 4/11/07 5:31 AM, Robert Ashton wrote: > I have a friend that has a G4? Running 10.3.9, 448 meg ram and is running > photoshop cs version 8.0.? Over the last couple of weeks every time she goes > to save photoshop quits. We have tried?DisableGetInfoComment.plugin. We have > deleted and reinstalled. We have created a new user. With a new user it did > save 3 times without quitting but it went back to quitting. At this moment it > looks like a wipe and reload which I 'm not looking forward to doing. Any > ideas on how to fix this would really be appreciated.. Bob From macsys at mac.com Wed Apr 11 11:07:30 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Wed Apr 11 11:08:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] photoshop cs quitting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1F7423E2-ED5D-4370-B58E-99C2E57656E2@mac.com> There are also times that if there are font problems that it will cause havoc with CS applications. Try clearing out all the font caches, a good tool TCC, Wayne. On Apr 11, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: > I don't know for certain if it would solve your friend's problem with > Photoshop CS quitting, but I highly recommend putting more RAM in that > machine. I don't recommend running OS X on anything less than 512MB > and if > you're going to use Photoshop I recommend having at least 1GB > installed. > > > On 4/11/07 5:31 AM, Robert Ashton wrote: > >> I have a friend that has a G4 Running 10.3.9, 448 meg ram and is >> running >> photoshop cs version 8.0. Over the last couple of weeks every >> time she goes >> to save photoshop quits. We have tried >> DisableGetInfoComment.plugin. We have >> deleted and reinstalled. We have created a new user. With a new >> user it did >> save 3 times without quitting but it went back to quitting. At >> this moment it >> looks like a wipe and reload which I 'm not looking forward to >> doing. Any >> ideas on how to fix this would really be appreciated.. Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From stevetalkowski at mac.com Wed Apr 11 13:22:55 2007 From: stevetalkowski at mac.com (Steve Talkowski) Date: Wed Apr 11 13:23:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] Fwd: MacBook Pro Audio Crisis - please help! References: <200704112005.l3BIWheS021263@lsvsm-m01.elist.aol.com> Message-ID: A fellow Mac user on a non-computer related mailing list is having the following problem. Nothing that I've ever encountered before on my MacBook Pro. Any ideas I can send his way? -Steve > I know there are some Mac wizards on the list, so I'm hoping > someone can > help me with a bizarre development: My MacBook Pro is suddenly > refusing to > make any noise. When I try to turn the volume up or down using the > keys in > the top row of the keyboard, I get that "forbidden"/"Ghostbusters" > symbol > (you know, the circle with the line through it). What is going on, > and how > can I fix this??? > > (I've already shut down and restarted the computer--it didn't work.) From XPressoBean at mac.com Wed Apr 11 13:34:46 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Wed Apr 11 13:34:52 2007 Subject: [X4U] Fwd: MacBook Pro Audio Crisis - please help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 4/11/07 3:22 PM, Steve Talkowski wrote: > A fellow Mac user on a non-computer related mailing list is having > the following problem. Nothing that I've ever encountered before on > my MacBook Pro. Any ideas I can send his way? Do they work if he holds down the Function key and hits the buttons? If so, that's a preference in the System Prefs, must have gotten changed somehow... Otherwise, has he installed any other software that would hijack Function keys -- QuicKeys, or assigned them to work in apps like QuarkXPress instead of in the Finder? From douglist at macnauchtan.com Wed Apr 11 14:09:05 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Wed Apr 11 14:09:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] Fwd: MacBook Pro Audio Crisis - please help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 15:34 -0500 4/11/07, Linda wrote: >On 4/11/07 3:22 PM, Steve Talkowski wrote: > >> A fellow Mac user on a non-computer related mailing list is having >> the following problem. Nothing that I've ever encountered before on >> my MacBook Pro. Any ideas I can send his way? > >Do they work if he holds down the Function key and hits the buttons? If so, >that's a preference in the System Prefs, must have gotten changed somehow... Some other quick questions. . . Does the machine chime during a cold startup? Is anything plugged into the headphone jack? Has anything been plugged in there that might have mucked with