From meged at earthlink.net Mon Jan 1 18:48:56 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Mon Jan 1 18:53:40 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12/31/06 6:39 PM, Linda wrote: > I thought that FW 800 had been deprecated, but > here's someone talking about a new computer and FW 800 so... FireWire 800 has not been deprecated. It is on the current Mac Pro, MacBook Pro and the 24-inch iMac. From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Jan 1 19:13:58 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Jan 1 19:14:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/1/07 8:48 PM, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: > FireWire 800 has not been deprecated. It is on the current Mac Pro, MacBook > Pro and the 24-inch iMac. It was not always on all of those machines; look back one year ago. It was not on the MacBook Pro, for example. > The second concern is the lack of a firewire 800 port. The Mac Book Pro has a > single FW-400 port, but no FW-800. I've got FW-800 now on my G4 powerbook, and > I do in fact use it. > I was concerned about the lack of a FW 800 port, and was told that the reason > was that all the ports on the machine ... > No Intel based manufacturer that I am aware of supports FireWire 800, and > Apple didn't feel the need or didn't have the time to develop new hardware. > As with FW800, it seems that Intel has been assisting in designing and > building the motherboards so FW800 was dropped since it's not on the official > Intel config. Also, Apple is supporting the Intel developed standard USB fully > (iPod and now MacBook). I wouldn't be surprised that Apple drops FW800, FW1600 > and FW3200 (remember those? ) > Can anyone update me on why there seems to be no firewire 800 on the new > machines? > The lack of a FireWire 800 port on the MacBook Pro - on what dark night of > the soul was this name born? - is bad enough. But for me the really > disappointing thing is that it has not been replaced by a second FW 400 port: > it has just disappeared, giving the MacBook Pro the same connectivity as a > funky-coloured 1999 iBook. Etc. So forgive me for not knowing exactly what computer the OP was going to be buying in the future, or for thinking that possibly he might not have FW800 on it, since not everyone buys brand spanking new computers! And forgive me for remembering the outrage when FW800 was NOT part of the MacBook Pro. Now that you've set me straight, what's *your* answer for the original poster's question? Thanks, Linda From randy at macattorney.com Mon Jan 1 23:20:05 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B.Singer) Date: Mon Jan 1 23:24:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire Message-ID: <20070102072409.CD9366E1315@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Eddie Hargreaves said: >FireWire 800 has not been deprecated. It is on the current Mac Pro, MacBook >Pro and the 24-inch iMac. True. Which is a surprise to many. Industry insiders thought that FW/800 would be extinct well before now. Check out this whitepaper from WiebeTech from October of 2004: Evolution of FireWire white paper: FireWire Evolution http://www.wiebetech.com/whitepapers.php Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html From timjcollier at mac.com Tue Jan 2 05:32:06 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Tue Jan 2 05:32:22 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire In-Reply-To: <20070102072409.CD9366E1315@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070102072409.CD9366E1315@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <16F134F1-7329-45D6-8A8D-1F772A8EF991@mac.com> This is driving me crazy that nobody has picked up on this use of 'deprecated'. deprecate |?depri?k?t| |?d?pr??ke?t| |?d?pr?ke?t| verb [ trans. ] 1 express disapproval of : [as adj. ] ( deprecating) he sniffed in a deprecating way. 2 another term for depreciate (sense 2): : he deprecates the value of children's television. DERIVATIVES deprecatingly |?d?pr??ke?d??li| adverb deprecation |?depr??k? sh ?n| |?d?pr??ke???n| |-?ke?? (?)n| noun deprecative |-?k?tiv| |?d?pr??ke?d?v| |?d?pr?k?t?v| adjective deprecator |-?k?t?r| |?d?pr??ke?d?r| noun ORIGIN early 17th cent.(in the sense [pray against] ): from Latin deprecat- ?prayed against (as being evil),? from the verb deprecari, from de- (expressing reversal) + precari ?pray.? USAGE See usage at self-deprecating . On Jan 2, 2007, at 2:20 AM, Randy B.Singer wrote: > Eddie Hargreaves said: > >> FireWire 800 has not been deprecated. It is on the current Mac >> Pro, MacBook >> Pro and the 24-inch iMac. > > > True. Which is a surprise to many. Industry insiders thought that > FW/800 would be extinct well before now. > > Check out this whitepaper from WiebeTech from October of 2004: > > Evolution of FireWire white paper: FireWire Evolution > http://www.wiebetech.com/whitepapers.php > > > > Randy B. Singer From meged at earthlink.net Tue Jan 2 09:05:11 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Tue Jan 2 09:10:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/1/07 7:13 PM, Linda wrote: > So forgive me for not knowing exactly what computer the OP was going to be > buying in the future, or for thinking that possibly he might not have FW800 > on it, since not everyone buys brand spanking new computers! In the original post, he wrote "When I buy a new computer which has Firewire 800 speed," so that pretty much covers any confusion over whether the computer he was going to buy was new or have FireWire 800. > And forgive me for remembering the outrage when FW800 was NOT part of the > MacBook Pro. I remember the outrage. I was at the launch of the MacBook Pro and remember all of the discussion over whether it foretold the end of FW800 on Macs. But it didn't and that discussion is over for now. > Now that you've set me straight, what's *your* answer for the original > poster's question? His FireWire 400 drive will work fine on any new Mac he buys, because every current model includes a FireWire 400 port. -- Eddie Hargreaves From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Jan 2 09:24:06 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Jan 2 09:24:34 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/2/07 11:05 AM, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: > His FireWire 400 drive will work fine on any new Mac he buys, because every > current model includes a FireWire 400 port. That wasn't his question. :-) This is his question: >> I guess what I am asking is if a 400 HD is compatible >> with an 800 port on a new computer. Which I answered: > Firewire 400 and Firewire 800 have different connectors -- they are not the > same connector with different speeds, as USB and USB 2.0 are. They are > physically different shapes, so you cannot plug a Firewire 400 cord into a > Firewire 800 jack, and vice versa. > > This Ohio State website illustrates with pictures. > And in the next mail, I gave a link to a cable that converts between Firewire 400 and Firewire 800, running at FW400 speed, should he need that for some reason. peace, Linda From aldridgebob63 at comcast.net Tue Jan 2 10:12:38 2007 From: aldridgebob63 at comcast.net (Bob Aldridge) Date: Tue Jan 2 10:12:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's Message-ID: Can anyone point me to a web site that gives information about Mac?s and Palm devices working together? I purchased a Palm Tungsten for my wife awhile back but never really got it figure out for integrating with the Mac. I purchased Missing Sync for the Mac but I don?t really understand it, and the manual is huge. Thanks, --Bob Aldridge Huntsville, AL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sometimes I have ssh access to the laptop from another machine, I tried to kill the Finder and the Dock to no avail, do you know a way to resurrect the machine from a shell without rebooting? -- fxn From jessup at san.rr.com Tue Jan 2 17:40:13 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Tue Jan 2 17:57:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:12 PM -0600 2/1/07, Bob Aldridge wrote: >Can anyone point me to a web site that gives information about Mac's >and Palm devices working together? I purchased a Palm Tungsten for >my wife awhile back but never really got it figure out for >integrating with the Mac. I purchased Missing Sync for the Mac but I >don't really understand it, and the manual is huge. What are you trying to synch with the Palm? I use Palm Desktop (free software) on the Mac and it synchs absolutely reliably with the my Tungsten T3. Are you trying to synch some other application? Daly ---------------------- From aldridgebob63 at comcast.net Tue Jan 2 18:21:41 2007 From: aldridgebob63 at comcast.net (Bob Aldridge) Date: Tue Jan 2 18:21:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had just read on the web that the Palm s/w was buggy, so I figured it was not good. Was hoping someone had posted to a website so lesson's learned when it comes to Mac's and Palm's. --Bob On 1/2/07 7:40 PM, "Daly Jessup" wrote: > At 12:12 PM -0600 2/1/07, Bob Aldridge wrote: >> Can anyone point me to a web site that gives information about Mac's >> and Palm devices working together? I purchased a Palm Tungsten for >> my wife awhile back but never really got it figure out for >> integrating with the Mac. I purchased Missing Sync for the Mac but I >> don't really understand it, and the manual is huge. > > What are you trying to synch with the Palm? I use Palm Desktop (free > software) on the Mac and it synchs absolutely reliably with the my > Tungsten T3. Are you trying to synch some other application? > > Daly > ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From oldmacman at comcast.net Tue Jan 2 19:19:59 2007 From: oldmacman at comcast.net (Don Grant) Date: Tue Jan 2 19:20:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] Entourage question? Message-ID: When downloading mail from the server, I get two copies of each message. How can I stop this from happening. I just started a week ago. Don Grant G-4, OS 10.4.8, Entourage 11.2.5 From nickscalise at cox.net Tue Jan 2 19:43:06 2007 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Tue Jan 2 19:43:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] Entourage question? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36B97E7A-F2B5-49E5-B30C-7D025A6048C3@cox.net> On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Don Grant wrote: > When downloading mail from the server, I get two copies of each > message. How > can I stop this from happening. I just started a week ago. > > Don Grant > > G-4, OS 10.4.8, Entourage 11.2.5 What changed a week ago? What type of email account is it? POP, IMAP, Exchange? If it is POP, did you check the 'Leave a copy on the server' for some reason in the Preferences? -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From mcclernan1 at comcast.net Tue Jan 2 20:23:51 2007 From: mcclernan1 at comcast.net (John McClernan) Date: Tue Jan 2 20:24:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00C8AD4B-D461-42EB-B411-918EF7368A5E@comcast.net> Daly, Start here: www.apple.com In the search box at the bottom of the page simply type "Palm" (no quotes, of course). You will get links to 146 pages that deal with Palm devices. If you don't already have it, d/l iSync from Apple, to get started. (Launch iSync and under the "Devices" menu, there is a choice for "Enable Palm OS syncing".) Under system requirements for iSync 1.5, it says, in part: "Palm syncing requires Palm Desktop 4.0 or later and the iSync Palm Conduit v1.2". Palm Desktop software, inter alia, can be found here: http:// www.palm.com/us/support/macintosh/ iSync Palm Conduit can be found here: http://docs.info.apple.com/ article.html?artnum=120221 It took me less than 5 minutes to find that stuff for you. Use it as a point of departure and do some digging on your own. You will find more that will be instructive. Cheers, John On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Daly Jessup wrote: > At 12:12 PM -0600 2/1/07, Bob Aldridge wrote: >> Can anyone point me to a web site that gives information about >> Mac's and Palm devices working together? I purchased a Palm >> Tungsten for my wife awhile back but never really got it figure >> out for integrating with the Mac. I purchased Missing Sync for the >> Mac but I don't really understand it, and the manual is huge. > > What are you trying to synch with the Palm? I use Palm Desktop > (free software) on the Mac and it synchs absolutely reliably with > the my Tungsten T3. Are you trying to synch some other application? > > Daly > ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From CaptBike at sheldonbrown.com Tue Jan 2 20:42:07 2007 From: CaptBike at sheldonbrown.com (Sheldon Brown) Date: Tue Jan 2 20:43:54 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palm Transport Monitor problem on Max OS X Message-ID: I've got two Macs, a G5 iMac and a PowerMac Pro laptop. Both Macs are running 10.4.8. I use Bluetooth to synch my Palm OS PDAs. I can synch my Palm Treo 700 (and my older Sony Cli? NZ90) with the PowerMac no problem, but something has gotten deranged in my G5. It's not a synch problem per se, but rather a Palm Transport Manager issue. I can open Palm Desktop (v 4.2.1) with no problem, my data is all there from the last time I succeeded in synching to the G5, possibly a couple of months ago. The HotSync menu shows the correct PDA name. However, If I try to open any of the other options on the HotSync menu (Install Handheld Files, Setup, Conduit Settings, View Log) I get two error boxes: One says: Unexpected Error #9 The other says: Application Launch Failure The application "HotSync Manager" could not b e launched because of a shared library error: "O" I've reloaded Palm Desktop repeatedly, but I'm stuck. I'd really like to be able to synch to this machine, which is my home machine, as well as I can to my PowerMac at work. Sheldon Brown -- Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.com Useful articles about bicycles and cycling http://sheldonbrown.com From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Wed Jan 3 02:40:13 2007 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Wed Jan 3 02:48:40 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: <20070102181253.81A0B6E68A3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070102181253.81A0B6E68A3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Bob Aldridge >Can anyone point me to a web site that gives information about Mac?s and >Palm devices working together? I purchased a Palm Tungsten for my wife >awhile back but never really got it figure out for integrating with the Mac. >I purchased Missing Sync for the Mac but I don?t really understand it, and >the manual is huge. Bob Persevere with Missing Sync. It works while the Palm offering only partly works. How far have you got? I was totally confused when I started with it. I've not done it this way - it was trial and error with my Clie and slightly better with my Life Drive - but it may help. 1. Open Missing Sync. 2. Define a new device with the Handhelds button. 3. Select the Conduits tab. 4. Select the Install profile - the only thing checked should be the Install conduit. 5. Select USB/BlueTooth connection icon as appropriate. 6. Run HotSync on the Palm. It will try to connect to the Mac. Here's where you configure and debug your connection. Some Missing Sync utilities may be loaded onto the Palm. Other than that this is a dry run of the connection setup. Once the Palm can connect cleanly, go on to the next step. 7. Select the Backup profile - the only thing checked should be the Backup conduit. 8. Highlight the Backup conduit line and click the Settings... button. 9. In the pop-down, select Backup and the rest as required. 10. Run HotSync on the Palm. It will connect and do a backup. 11. Select the Sync profile. 12. De-select all conduits. 13. Select one conduit for a Palm database that has some content and tick it. Only ever select one conduit for a database, for example don't select both the Mark/Space Contacts conduit with the Address Book icon and the Contacts conduit without. The first will sync with the Address Book, the second with the Palm Desktop address book. It can only cope with one. 14. Highlight the selected conduit line and click the Settings... button. 15. Configure the settings as required. If syncing with a Mac app, you can't overwrite the Mac data with the Palm data; you have to Synchronize. 16. Run HotSync on the Palm. It will connect and sync. If you have similar entries on Mac and Palm it will ask about resolving conflicts. 17. Repeat with another conduit till it's doing all the ones you want. Each time the Palm HotSyncs it connects and uses whatever conduits are selected. Profiles are an easy way to say 'Next HotSync I want to use all conduits selected by the Backup profile' or 'Next HotSync I want to use all conduits selected by the Sync profile'. You can create your own profile(s). You might leave it set to a profile with the Backup, Mark/Space Contacts and Mark/Space Events conduits enabled so that every HotSync does a backup and syncs your Address Book and iCal. Let me know how if the above helps, or, if not, what I've missed or got wrong. It is possible that you may need to do an initial connection using Palm Desktop. I did with my Life Drive because it loaded some extras that were needed that couldn't be got any other way. The Missing Sync installation knows about Palm Desktop and overlays where it needs to. (Re)installing Missing Sync after any initial use of Palm Desktop should give you a working Missing Sync setup as long as the Palm Desktop background monitor agent isn't running at the time. David Palms and Mac's ? | Palm's and Macs | Palms and Macs - that's better. :-) -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. Chair of HPUX SysAdmin SIG of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From jessup at san.rr.com Wed Jan 3 04:47:56 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Wed Jan 3 05:05:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: References: <20070102181253.81A0B6E68A3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Message-ID: At 10:40 AM +0000 3/1/07, David Ledger wrote: >Persevere with Missing Sync. It works while the Palm offering only >partly works. >How far have you got? I was totally confused when I started with it. What about the Palm Desktop software "only partly works" for you ? Daly ---------------------- From macmonster at myrealbox.com Wed Jan 3 05:55:16 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Wed Jan 3 05:55:36 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire In-Reply-To: <16F134F1-7329-45D6-8A8D-1F772A8EF991@mac.com> References: <20070102072409.CD9366E1315@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <16F134F1-7329-45D6-8A8D-1F772A8EF991@mac.com> Message-ID: <4C562EA5-E2F1-4807-9164-E3314A5D6E75@myrealbox.com> This is now considered to be a correct usage of "deprecated": or On 2 Jan 2007, at 13:32, Tim Collier wrote: > This is driving me crazy that nobody has picked up on this use of > 'deprecated'. > > deprecate |?depri?k?t| |?d?pr??ke?t| |?d?pr?ke?t| > verb [ trans. ] > 1 express disapproval of : [as adj. ] ( deprecating) he sniffed in > a deprecating way. > 2 another term for depreciate (sense 2): : he deprecates the value > of children's television. > DERIVATIVES > deprecatingly |?d?pr??ke?d??li| adverb > deprecation |?depr??k? sh ?n| |?d?pr??ke???n| |-?ke?? > (?)n| noun > deprecative |-?k?tiv| |?d?pr??ke?d?v| |?d?pr?k?t?v| > adjective > deprecator |-?k?t?r| |?d?pr??ke?d?r| noun > ORIGIN early 17th cent.(in the sense [pray against] ): from Latin > deprecat- ?prayed against (as being evil),? from the verb > deprecari, from de- (expressing reversal) + precari ?pray.? > USAGE See usage at self-deprecating . From earle.jones at comcast.net Wed Jan 3 06:50:17 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Wed Jan 3 06:50:25 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: References: <20070102181253.81A0B6E68A3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <251BD610-66AB-45F2-AED7-8AD597E8FE53@comcast.net> On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:40 AM, David Ledger wrote: [clip] * In the subject line, why would you use an apostrophe in "Mac's" but not in "Palms"? (Hint: Plurals do not require an apostrophe.) earle (Managing Director, The 'postrophe Patrol) * From fxn at hashref.com Wed Jan 3 07:01:58 2007 From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria) Date: Wed Jan 3 07:02:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often Message-ID: I have a MacBook with an up-to-date system, and application switching (what Command-Tab triggers) hangs often. Say once every fortnight. I have run repair permissions several times, and even rebuilt everything with the recently released DiskWarrior 4, just in case. No luck, it just happened today again. Is this a known issue? Sometimes I have ssh access to the laptop from another machine, I tried to kill the Finder and the Dock to no avail, do you know a way to resurrect the machine from a shell without rebooting? -- fxn From macsys at mac.com Wed Jan 3 07:07:43 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Wed Jan 3 07:08:19 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> Have you tried Tiger Cache Cleaner, usually works for stuff like this, Wayne. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16494 On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Xavier Noria wrote: > I have a MacBook with an up-to-date system, and application > switching (what Command-Tab triggers) hangs often. Say once every > fortnight. I have run repair permissions several times, and even > rebuilt everything with the recently released DiskWarrior 4, just > in case. No luck, it just happened today again. > > Is this a known issue? Sometimes I have ssh access to the laptop > from another machine, I tried to kill the Finder and the Dock to no > avail, do you know a way to resurrect the machine from a shell > without rebooting? > > -- fxn > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From fxn at hashref.com Wed Jan 3 08:00:44 2007 From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria) Date: Wed Jan 3 08:01:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often In-Reply-To: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> References: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> Message-ID: <6BD0FC46-5959-4A93-B7DA-5735EA83C76A@hashref.com> On Jan 3, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > Have you tried Tiger Cache Cleaner, usually works for stuff like > this, Wayne. > > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16494 Thanks! That utility seems to do lots of things, which feature would you recommend? -- fxn From jamesrob at sonic.net Wed Jan 3 08:26:27 2007 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Wed Jan 3 08:26:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] Keyboard language mapping changing "on its own" Message-ID: >From time to time I'll discover that shortcut keystroke combinations don't work, or that typing produces character substitutions. This seems to happen most often in Photoshop CS2, and because I don't do much text input in Photoshop, it tends to go undetected by me while I'm working in Photoshop. I THINK this happens only on one of my Macs, but it's the sort of thing I've just grumbled and fixed when I discover it, so I cannot be certain. Typically the substitution is from English to French or Italian-Pro. I used to suspect my mischievous son, but he doesn't know Applescript and he's now thousands of miles away, so that's not a likely explanation. My lead guess is that there's some keystroke combination that invokes the keyboard mapping change that also lives in Photoshop. Has anyone else encountered such behavior AND figured out what was causing it? Thanks so much, Jim Robertson -- From janmel at mac.com Wed Jan 3 08:36:29 2007 From: janmel at mac.com (Jan Melichar) Date: Wed Jan 3 08:36:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] keyboard sound buttons inactive Message-ID: For no obvious reason that I see the sound buttons on my keyboard have stopped working (all other functions work normally) I have Apple's old usb Harman Kardon Soundsticks connected but even if I disconnect them the buttons do not work. It's not the world's biggest problem but irritating. Any suggestions would be welcome. Jan From jamesrob at sonic.net Wed Jan 3 08:40:12 2007 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Wed Jan 3 08:40:22 2007 Subject: [X4U] Lobby Intuit at Macworld SF Message-ID: I've been an online banking user now for over a decade. I began with Union Bank of California when I lived in San Jose, where they have local branches. When I moved to Santa Rosa, where there ARE no local UBC branches, I looked for alternatives and found none. Even the world's largest banks; e.g., Bank of America, didn't support direct online banking from within Quicken for Mac, because Intuit charges a separate license fee for each platform. My local credit union IT representative claimed a few days ago that Intuit's charge for this is $100,000 per year! I've been told many times that the actual datastream that flows in each direction in an online session (generating a QXF file) is identical no matter whether the user is in Windows or Mac (except that the software identifies itself as Quicken for Windows or Quicken for the Mac), and that the only justification for the separate charge is Intuit's business model to maximize revenue. A few years ago, when Apple's renaissance included adding Intuit's CEO to its Board of Directors, I thought we'd see progress. Perhaps the fact that Intuit continues to release versions of Quicken for the Mac is evidence of that, but they EOL older versions' access to online banking periodically so force users to upgrade (that's true whether on uses the Windows or Mac version). Intuit's booth at Macworld is usually pretty busy. I would urge all attendees to drop by their booth, and if they offer a chance to fill out feedback cards, make yours a reasoned assertion that Mac users don't deserve this second class citizenship, making certain you mention you're aware that it's not the banks' fault; i.e., it's not a technical issue at all, but just the banks' business decision not to pay ransom to Intuit to support the OS with a smaller marketshare. It amazes me that Bill Campbell can't be lobbied by the other members of Apple's Board of Directors to right this indignation, but perhaps that's why I'm not a business executive Jim Robertson -- From XPressoBean at mac.com Wed Jan 3 08:51:07 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Wed Jan 3 08:51:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] keyboard sound buttons inactive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/3/07 10:36 AM, Jan Melichar wrote: > For no obvious reason that I see the sound buttons on my keyboard > have stopped working (all other functions work normally) I have > Apple's old usb Harman Kardon Soundsticks connected but even if I > disconnect them the buttons do not work. It's not the world's biggest > problem but irritating. Any suggestions would be welcome. Hi, Jan -- Does the problem persist if you unplug the keyboard from the computer and plug them back in? Does the problem persist across reboots of your computer? Try a Safe Boot, then reboot normally. Are your functions are restored? If none of the above, then, what USB port is your keyboard plugged into? If you try a different one, does it work? If you're plugged into a hub, is it a powered hub? What is the brand and model of keyboard you're using? Do you have another computer, even a laptop, that you can test your keyboard by plugging into? Do you have another keyboard that you can use to test your USB ports by plugging it into your computer? What kind of computer are you using, and what version of the OS do you have installed? Have you applied any updates lately? peace, Linda From janmel at mac.com Wed Jan 3 09:07:55 2007 From: janmel at mac.com (Jan Melichar) Date: Wed Jan 3 09:08:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] keyboard sound buttons inactive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2CCAE0F9-ED65-4E04-AB3A-E24B04FC3D35@mac.com> On 3 Jan 2007, at 16:51, Linda wrote: > On 1/3/07 10:36 AM, Jan Melichar wrote: > >> For no obvious reason that I see the sound buttons on my keyboard >> have stopped working (all other functions work normally) I have >> Apple's old usb Harman Kardon Soundsticks connected but even if I >> disconnect them the buttons do not work. It's not the world's biggest >> problem but irritating. Any suggestions would be welcome. > > Hi, Jan -- > > Does the problem persist if you unplug the keyboard from the > computer and > plug them back in? Yes > > Does the problem persist across reboots of your computer? Yes > > Try a Safe Boot, then reboot normally. Are your functions are > restored? have done no difference > > If none of the above, then, what USB port is your keyboard plugged > into? If > you try a different one, does it work? If you're plugged into a > hub, is it a > powered hub? Originally via powered hub but makes no difference when plugged directly into the computer > > What is the brand and model of keyboard you're using? Standard Apple keyboard > > Do you have another computer, even a laptop, that you can test your > keyboard > by plugging into? Do you have another keyboard that you can use to > test your > USB ports by plugging it into your computer? > works when plugged into Powerbook > What kind of computer are you using, and what version of the OS do > you have > installed? Have you applied any updates lately? > G5; the very latest > peace, > Linda > Thanks for taking the time Ja From macsys at mac.com Wed Jan 3 09:09:46 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Wed Jan 3 09:10:14 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often In-Reply-To: <6BD0FC46-5959-4A93-B7DA-5735EA83C76A@hashref.com> References: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> <6BD0FC46-5959-4A93-B7DA-5735EA83C76A@hashref.com> Message-ID: <1C7B9CC1-66DF-494B-866E-D0E7E8DCE6D4@mac.com> Under the Cache tab check all the boxes for Caches, start off with a medium cleaning, you will be required to restart. Wayne. On Jan 3, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Xavier Noria wrote: > On Jan 3, 2007, at 4:07 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > >> Have you tried Tiger Cache Cleaner, usually works for stuff like >> this, Wayne. >> >> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16494 > > Thanks! That utility seems to do lots of things, which feature > would you recommend? > > -- fxn > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From XPressoBean at mac.com Wed Jan 3 09:12:19 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Wed Jan 3 09:12:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] keyboard sound buttons inactive In-Reply-To: <2CCAE0F9-ED65-4E04-AB3A-E24B04FC3D35@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/3/07 11:07 AM, Jan Melichar wrote: >> Try a Safe Boot, then reboot normally. Are your functions are >> restored? > > have done no difference Do they work during the Safe Boot? Do the functions work if you log into your computer as a new user? From fxn at hashref.com Wed Jan 3 09:27:41 2007 From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria) Date: Wed Jan 3 09:27:55 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often In-Reply-To: <1C7B9CC1-66DF-494B-866E-D0E7E8DCE6D4@mac.com> References: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> <6BD0FC46-5959-4A93-B7DA-5735EA83C76A@hashref.com> <1C7B9CC1-66DF-494B-866E-D0E7E8DCE6D4@mac.com> Message-ID: <08E676BF-BCB8-4626-A48A-ED8E8DDF4C09@hashref.com> On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:09 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > Under the Cache tab check all the boxes for Caches, start off with > a medium cleaning, you will be required to restart. Wayne. OK, I cleaned caches with OnyX. Thank you! -- fxn From macsys at mac.com Wed Jan 3 09:46:25 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Wed Jan 3 09:47:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often In-Reply-To: <08E676BF-BCB8-4626-A48A-ED8E8DDF4C09@hashref.com> References: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> <6BD0FC46-5959-4A93-B7DA-5735EA83C76A@hashref.com> <1C7B9CC1-66DF-494B-866E-D0E7E8DCE6D4@mac.com> <08E676BF-BCB8-4626-A48A-ED8E8DDF4C09@hashref.com> Message-ID: <550D1E3A-4D86-4805-B2CB-75987E30F3B4@mac.com> Did someone else recommend Onyx, just curious because I had suggested TCC and you even asked for directions on how to use it? On Jan 3, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Xavier Noria wrote: > On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:09 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > >> Under the Cache tab check all the boxes for Caches, start off with >> a medium cleaning, you will be required to restart. Wayne. > > OK, I cleaned caches with OnyX. Thank you! > > -- fxn > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From fxn at hashref.com Wed Jan 3 10:06:05 2007 From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria) Date: Wed Jan 3 10:06:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often In-Reply-To: <550D1E3A-4D86-4805-B2CB-75987E30F3B4@mac.com> References: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> <6BD0FC46-5959-4A93-B7DA-5735EA83C76A@hashref.com> <1C7B9CC1-66DF-494B-866E-D0E7E8DCE6D4@mac.com> <08E676BF-BCB8-4626-A48A-ED8E8DDF4C09@hashref.com> <550D1E3A-4D86-4805-B2CB-75987E30F3B4@mac.com> Message-ID: On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > Did someone else recommend Onyx, just curious because I had > suggested TCC and you even asked for directions on how to use it? Nope, sorry. I just gave OnyX a try because I don't have a license of TCC. These maintenance utilities have some intersections so I first tried with OnyX. Is TCC known to be necessary or better for this specific problem? From macsys at mac.com Wed Jan 3 11:06:40 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Wed Jan 3 11:07:23 2007 Subject: [X4U] application switching hangs often In-Reply-To: References: <5F13232B-4D44-46D7-95A6-4778E5367240@mac.com> <6BD0FC46-5959-4A93-B7DA-5735EA83C76A@hashref.com> <1C7B9CC1-66DF-494B-866E-D0E7E8DCE6D4@mac.com> <08E676BF-BCB8-4626-A48A-ED8E8DDF4C09@hashref.com> <550D1E3A-4D86-4805-B2CB-75987E30F3B4@mac.com> Message-ID: <74AB4E06-32B0-4822-8E79-687CD75D96EE@mac.com> No not at all, was just curious, Wayne. On Jan 3, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Xavier Noria wrote: > On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > >> Did someone else recommend Onyx, just curious because I had >> suggested TCC and you even asked for directions on how to use it? > > Nope, sorry. I just gave OnyX a try because I don't have a license > of TCC. These maintenance utilities have some intersections so I > first tried with OnyX. Is TCC known to be necessary or better for > this specific problem? > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Wed Jan 3 12:33:08 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Wed Jan 3 12:33:25 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire between a new iMac and a G4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A friend has this problem that when he uses his normal FW cable from his external HD to a G4 and after restart of he G4 (with "T" down) he can't see the G4 on the iMac screen. Can it be Snitch he uses, or the Intel? Paul Moortgat From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Wed Jan 3 10:41:12 2007 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Wed Jan 3 13:56:19 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: <20070103135544.3D7BD6F068C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070103135544.3D7BD6F068C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Daly Jessup >At 10:40 AM +0000 3/1/07, David Ledger wrote: >>Persevere with Missing Sync. It works while the Palm offering only >>partly works. >>How far have you got? I was totally confused when I started with it. > >What about the Palm Desktop software "only partly works" for you ? > >Daly I can't remember now. When I first used it back in 2003 it wasn't complete for the Mac so I bought Missing Sync. When I bought my Life Drive earlier this year I gave Palm Desktop another try because I had to use it to load up extra software. I soon hit problems, I think with syncing, so I updated my Missing Sync. If I'd had to do more work to solve the problem and so use it more, I'd probably remember the details. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. Chair of HPUX SysAdmin SIG of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Wed Jan 3 10:17:57 2007 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Wed Jan 3 13:56:22 2007 Subject: [X4U] Palms and Mac's In-Reply-To: <20070103171234.F09F16F2BAC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070103171234.F09F16F2BAC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Earle Jones >On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:40 AM, David Ledger wrote: > >[clip] > >* >In the subject line, why would you use an apostrophe in "Mac's" but >not in "Palms"? > >(Hint: Plurals do not require an apostrophe.) > >earle >(Managing Director, The 'postrophe Patrol) >* Note the 'Re:' at the beginning of my Subject:. It means that it's not my Subject: At the end of my post I also made a comment on this ':-)'d. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. Chair of HPUX SysAdmin SIG of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From mac.k at a2k.ch Thu Jan 4 01:38:17 2007 From: mac.k at a2k.ch (alexandre) Date: Thu Jan 4 01:39:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] connecting to airport network from xp om imac Message-ID: hi i want to connect to my airport (express) network from windows xp on my 24" imac, but so far have been unsuccessful. my network is password protected (wpa2 personal) with a 15 letter password (just letters, no punctuations or numbers) & both airport express base stations are up to date. xp has service pack 2? windows can "see" the network but not connect to it. any ideas? thanks alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.8 :: From timjcollier at mac.com Thu Jan 4 04:44:17 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Thu Jan 4 04:44:31 2007 Subject: [X4U] connecting to airport network from xp om imac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65B233CB-69E0-4663-A50A-76DCC57161F2@mac.com> On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:38 AM, alexandre wrote: > hi > > i want to connect to my airport (express) network from windows xp > on my 24" imac, but so far have been unsuccessful. > > my network is password protected (wpa2 personal) with a 15 letter > password (just letters, no punctuations or numbers) & both airport > express base stations are up to date. xp has service pack 2? > > windows can "see" the network but not connect to it. any ideas? > > thanks > > alexandre Hi Alexandre: I have an airport extreme base station with 2 airport expresses based around the house (to boost the signal and connect to sound equipment and printers). I have 4 Macs on the wireless network and 1 PC. To get the non-Apple equivalent passcode launch the Airport Admin Utility (Applications/Utilities), you'll see your base station listed there. Double click on it and another window will open, you'll see a new menu at the top 'Base Station'. Click on it and you'll see Equivalent Network Password. Click this and a little box will open with the numerical password that you will have to enter on the PC to enable it to connect to the network. I use WEP. I imagine that wpa2 is more or less the same. This should work. Good luck, Tim -- Tengo un manojo encantador de cocos. From macmonster at myrealbox.com Thu Jan 4 04:48:07 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Thu Jan 4 04:48:29 2007 Subject: [X4U] connecting to airport network from xp om imac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97EE97CF-7F31-4D83-809B-4229B7C8AD35@myrealbox.com> On 4 Jan 2007, at 09:38, alexandre wrote: > > i want to connect to my airport (express) network from windows xp > on my 24" imac, but so far have been unsuccessful. > > my network is password protected (wpa2 personal) with a 15 letter > password (just letters, no punctuations or numbers) & both airport > express base stations are up to date. xp has service pack 2? > > windows can "see" the network but not connect to it. any ideas? Give us a chance to help you. What error message do you get when you try to connect? Stroller. From mark at astroprinting.com Thu Jan 4 05:18:43 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Thu Jan 4 05:21:51 2007 Subject: [X4U] Keyboard language mapping changing "on its own" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim, I had a similar problem once before. Check your System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse and see if "Input Menu" is checked. When it's checked you can change keyboard layouts by pressing Command/Space, the same keyboard shortcut in Photoshop to get the magnifying glass. Uncheck it and your problems should go away. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 3-Jan-07, at 11:26 AM, Jim Robertson wrote: >> From time to time I'll discover that shortcut keystroke >> combinations don't > work, or that typing produces character substitutions. This seems > to happen > most often in Photoshop CS2, and because I don't do much text input in > Photoshop, it tends to go undetected by me while I'm working in > Photoshop. > > I THINK this happens only on one of my Macs, but it's the sort of > thing I've > just grumbled and fixed when I discover it, so I cannot be certain. > > Typically the substitution is from English to French or Italian-Pro. > > I used to suspect my mischievous son, but he doesn't know > Applescript and > he's now thousands of miles away, so that's not a likely > explanation. My > lead guess is that there's some keystroke combination that invokes the > keyboard mapping change that also lives in Photoshop. > > Has anyone else encountered such behavior AND figured out what was > causing > it? > > Thanks so much, > > Jim Robertson > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From mac.k at a2k.ch Thu Jan 4 06:06:52 2007 From: mac.k at a2k.ch (alexandre) Date: Thu Jan 4 06:07:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] connecting to airport network from xp om imac In-Reply-To: <97EE97CF-7F31-4D83-809B-4229B7C8AD35@myrealbox.com> References: <97EE97CF-7F31-4D83-809B-4229B7C8AD35@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <63A7C58D-E00A-4824-A66F-A2199AD1D056@a2k.ch> On 4 janv. 07, at 13:48, Stroller wrote: > > On 4 Jan 2007, at 09:38, alexandre wrote: >> >> i want to connect to my airport (express) network from windows xp >> on my 24" imac, but so far have been unsuccessful. >> >> my network is password protected (wpa2 personal) with a 15 letter >> password (just letters, no punctuations or numbers) & both airport >> express base stations are up to date. xp has service pack 2? >> >> windows can "see" the network but not connect to it. any ideas? > > Give us a chance to help you. > > What error message do you get when you try to connect? > i double-click on my network (in the "wireless network conection" window in xp)and then i'm prompted to enter my password. a window pops up saying "please wait while windows connects to the "XXX" network". an (ugly) progress bar tells me the mac/xp is trying to connect to the network but after a minute or so, that window closes. back in the "wireless network conection" window, it says "acquiring network address" next to my network. that's about it? alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.8 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.8 :: From mac.k at a2k.ch Thu Jan 4 06:10:19 2007 From: mac.k at a2k.ch (alexandre) Date: Thu Jan 4 06:10:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] connecting to airport network from xp om imac In-Reply-To: <65B233CB-69E0-4663-A50A-76DCC57161F2@mac.com> References: <65B233CB-69E0-4663-A50A-76DCC57161F2@mac.com> Message-ID: <50721024-D237-4BA5-B657-E5D19DDC3DD9@a2k.ch> > > Hi Alexandre: > I have an airport extreme base station with 2 airport expresses > based around the house (to boost the signal and connect to sound > equipment and printers). I have 4 Macs on the wireless network and > 1 PC. To get the non-Apple equivalent passcode launch the Airport > Admin Utility (Applications/Utilities), you'll see your base > station listed there. Double click on it and another window will > open, you'll see a new menu at the top 'Base Station'. Click on it > and you'll see Equivalent Network Password. Click this and a > little box will open with the numerical password that you will have > to enter on the PC to enable it to connect to the network. > I use WEP. I imagine that wpa2 is more or less the same. This > should work. > Good luck, > Tim > hi tim i tried that last night. all i get back is my same password. strange alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.8 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.8 :: From jamesrob at sonic.net Thu Jan 4 06:12:10 2007 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Thu Jan 4 06:12:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] Simple Excel Question Message-ID: I've created a simple 3-column list in Excel; First column cells contain a short text string (bug, interface issue, feature request); second column contains paragraph text describing the issue; third column contains column text describing progress towards resolution of the issue. I've used the list wizard to generate the worksheet, with titles at the top of each column that I've designated to be repeated on each page. The problem is that if the paragraph text in the last row on a page overlaps the bottom page margin, Excel doesn't simply move the "offending" row to the next page; it keeps that row limited to one line of text and the text in the offending row is displayed as hashmarks (##############) filling the cell. Is this a quirk of using the list wizard? Should I start over, manually formatting the rows and cells (I have the data entry cells all set to autowrap text with first line of text in each cell at the top of the cell. Thanks so much, Jim Robertson -- From mac.k at a2k.ch Thu Jan 4 07:21:34 2007 From: mac.k at a2k.ch (alexandre) Date: Thu Jan 4 07:21:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] connecting to airport network from xp om imac In-Reply-To: <65B233CB-69E0-4663-A50A-76DCC57161F2@mac.com> References: <65B233CB-69E0-4663-A50A-76DCC57161F2@mac.com> Message-ID: > > Hi Alexandre: > I have an airport extreme base station with 2 airport expresses > based around the house (to boost the signal and connect to sound > equipment and printers). I have 4 Macs on the wireless network and > 1 PC. To get the non-Apple equivalent passcode launch the Airport > Admin Utility (Applications/Utilities), you'll see your base > station listed there. Double click on it and another window will > open, you'll see a new menu at the top 'Base Station'. Click on it > and you'll see Equivalent Network Password. Click this and a > little box will open with the numerical password that you will have > to enter on the PC to enable it to connect to the network. > I use WEP. I imagine that wpa2 is more or less the same. This > should work. > Good luck, > Tim > hello again almost by mistake, i found the solution to my problem: 1. system preferences > network. 2. in the "show" dropdown menu, select "airport". 3. further down, select "by default, join: PREFERRED NETWORKS" 4. select the network you want to join, and click "edit" 5. in the window that slides down, select "show password". 6. copy-paste the password WITHOUT the "$" at the beginning into windows. 7. you should be able to log-on to your airport network. i was. regards and thanks to those that offered their help! alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.8 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.8 :: From douglist at macnauchtan.com Thu Jan 4 08:45:30 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Thu Jan 4 08:45:41 2007 Subject: [X4U] Simple Excel Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 06:12 -0800 1/4/07, Jim Robertson wrote: >I've created a simple 3-column list in Excel; First column cells contain a short text string (bug, interface issue, feature request); second column contains paragraph text describing the issue; third column contains column text describing progress towards resolution of the issue. > >I've used the list wizard to generate the worksheet, with titles at the top of each column that I've designated to be repeated on each page. The problem is that if the paragraph text in the last row on a page overlaps the bottom page margin, Excel doesn't simply move the "offending" row to the next page; it keeps that row limited to one line of text and the text in the offending row is displayed as hashmarks (##############) filling the cell. The world really needs a column-oriented text editor. Spreadsheets are best when arithmetic is involved. But. . . I have had problems with the list wizard. The biggest being that insert and delete of whole rows seems to get lost. Sorting is strange. My suggestion. Don't use it. You can repeat certain rows at the tops of pages in page-setup. You can also split the window and freeze panes to show such things while you're working in a window. Excel once had a limit of 256 characters in a cell and I'm willing to believe that changing that left a printing problem with keeping cells contents on a page. Insert-Page Break manually is a way to handle it. Anyone remember when MacDraw was the page layout program of choice? Some text blocks aligned at their tops would do this job nicely. There must be page layout software that replaces it and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. These guise are really helpful List-Subscribe: List-Archive: -- --> The greenhouse effect due to water vapor has never been fully modeled and weather forecasting remains irreducibly complex. It is clear that global warming is the act of an Intelligent Designer. <-- From zoff at mac.com Thu Jan 4 13:14:15 2007 From: zoff at mac.com (John Azevedo) Date: Thu Jan 4 13:11:35 2007 Subject: [X4U] Selling PowerBook Message-ID: <2FE457AC-286B-4672-AE79-1B2034D680D6@mac.com> I want to sell my 1.25 ghz PowerBook, any recommendations on were to sell it? From tlmiller at mac.com Thu Jan 4 13:40:25 2007 From: tlmiller at mac.com (T.L. Miller) Date: Thu Jan 4 13:41:00 2007 Subject: [X4U] Selling PowerBook In-Reply-To: <2FE457AC-286B-4672-AE79-1B2034D680D6@mac.com> References: <2FE457AC-286B-4672-AE79-1B2034D680D6@mac.com> Message-ID: <20070104214025.1032641096@smtp.mac.com> On 1/4/07, at 4:14 PM, John Azevedo zoff@mac.com said: >I want to sell my 1.25 ghz PowerBook, any recommendations on were to >sell it? eBay From XPressoBean at mac.com Thu Jan 4 13:42:21 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Thu Jan 4 13:42:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] Selling PowerBook In-Reply-To: <2FE457AC-286B-4672-AE79-1B2034D680D6@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/4/07 3:14 PM, John Azevedo wrote: > I want to sell my 1.25 ghz PowerBook, any recommendations on were to > sell it? Craig's List if there's one local to you (free), or eBay (fees involved). I recently sold my G4 dual Quicksilver on eBay with a Buy It Now -- whole thing was over in three days. From meged at earthlink.net Thu Jan 4 14:08:34 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Thu Jan 4 14:08:43 2007 Subject: [X4U] Selling PowerBook In-Reply-To: <2FE457AC-286B-4672-AE79-1B2034D680D6@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/4/07 1:14 PM, John Azevedo wrote: > I want to sell my 1.25 ghz PowerBook, any recommendations on were to > sell it? Low End Mac Swap List eBay Craigslist Amazon Marketplace From meged at earthlink.net Thu Jan 4 14:10:30 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Thu Jan 4 14:10:40 2007 Subject: [X4U] Keyboard language mapping changing "on its own" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/4/07 5:18 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > I had a similar problem once before. Check your System Preferences > > Keyboard & Mouse and see if "Input Menu" is checked. When it's > checked you can change keyboard layouts by pressing Command/Space, > the same keyboard shortcut in Photoshop to get the magnifying glass. > Uncheck it and your problems should go away. It's actually the International pane that you should check in System Preferences (at least in Tiger). Also in Tiger, the Command-Space shortcut belongs to Spotlight. From netkat at comcast.net Thu Jan 4 15:11:16 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Thu Jan 4 15:12:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] adding Mail to Mail.app Message-ID: <9f065ded4394d1e9ac88fe391a014a84@comcast.net> I have made a powerbook serve as my Internet machine for about 4 months now...a G4 Mini had been doing internet, and e-mail using Mail.app. what's the best way to get all that 4 months' worth of mail onto the G4 Mini? I might be able to connect the mini to the 'net, and let mail.app download all that mail which is "new" to it, since I turned off "delete mail from server" in Mail.app on the powerbook; it all ought to be there. Any thoughts? thank you! nk From jamesrob at sonic.net Thu Jan 4 17:05:11 2007 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Thu Jan 4 17:05:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] Keyboard language mapping changing "on its own" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/4/07 2:10 PM, "Eddie Hargreaves" wrote: > It's actually the International pane that you should check in System > Preferences (at least in Tiger). Also in Tiger, the Command-Space shortcut > belongs to Spotlight. Weird. I have 10.4.8, but found that command-space toggled the keyboard language on my dual G5; on my MacBook Pro, it brings up Spotlight. In any event, I disabled the keystroke equivalent on the dual G5, and I'm a happy guy again. Jim Robertson -- From dlthompsonii at gmail.com Thu Jan 4 17:44:52 2007 From: dlthompsonii at gmail.com (Dennis Thompson II) Date: Thu Jan 4 17:45:01 2007 Subject: [X4U] Selling PowerBook In-Reply-To: <20070104214025.1032641096@smtp.mac.com> References: <2FE457AC-286B-4672-AE79-1B2034D680D6@mac.com> <20070104214025.1032641096@smtp.mac.com> Message-ID: <5e9fbb0d0701041744s70decb56k819e4d0374129b30@mail.gmail.com> Just out of curiosity what are it's complete specs and how much are you thinking of? On 1/4/07, T.L. Miller wrote: > > On 1/4/07, at 4:14 PM, John Azevedo zoff@mac.com said: > > >I want to sell my 1.25 ghz PowerBook, any recommendations on were to > >sell it? > > eBay > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -- D. 'Sky' T. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070104/571e496f/attachment.html From rsmykla at verizon.net Thu Jan 4 19:22:58 2007 From: rsmykla at verizon.net (Rick Smykla) Date: Thu Jan 4 19:23:24 2007 Subject: [X4U] adding Mail to Mail.app In-Reply-To: <9f065ded4394d1e9ac88fe391a014a84@comcast.net> References: <9f065ded4394d1e9ac88fe391a014a84@comcast.net> Message-ID: nk, Migration Assistant using Firewire cable in target disk mode? (assuming your PB supports it) Mail's import function with both machines connected through your local network? Mail's import function using the powerbook started up in target disk mode? Rick On Jan 4, 2007, at 6:11 PM, nk wrote: > I have made a powerbook serve as my Internet machine for about 4 > months now...a G4 Mini had been doing internet, and e-mail using > Mail.app. > > what's the best way to get all that 4 months' worth of mail onto > the G4 Mini? I might be able to connect the mini to the 'net, and > let mail.app download all that mail which is "new" to it, since I > turned off "delete mail from server" in Mail.app on the powerbook; > it all ought to be there. > > Any thoughts? > > thank you! > > nk From jessup at san.rr.com Fri Jan 5 05:10:17 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Fri Jan 5 05:11:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] Keyboard language mapping changing "on its own" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:10 PM -0800 4/1/07, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: >On 1/4/07 5:18 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > >> I had a similar problem once before. Check your System Preferences > >> Keyboard & Mouse and see if "Input Menu" is checked. When it's >> checked you can change keyboard layouts by pressing Command/Space, >> the same keyboard shortcut in Photoshop to get the magnifying glass. >> Uncheck it and your problems should go away. > >It's actually the International pane that you should check in System >Preferences (at least in Tiger). Also in Tiger, the Command-Space shortcut >belongs to Spotlight. That's interesting. I see in the Mac Help menu that Command-Space is as you say, for Spotlight. Yet in my International pref pane/Input Menu, the Input Menu Shortcuts part says: "Select previous input source: CommandSpace" and "Select next input source in menu: Command-Option-Space". I have now fixed this in the Keyboard Shortcuts pane, but it's strange, because I would never have knowingly switched that shortcut. Does anyone know what might have done it? I'm sure that the original poster's shortcut had been changed for him, just as mine was. Daly ---------------------- From mark at astroprinting.com Fri Jan 5 05:48:47 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Fri Jan 5 05:51:50 2007 Subject: [X4U] Keyboard language mapping changing "on its own" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07922B57-5F19-4C31-B9C4-159F69D67107@astroprinting.com> Very interesting, we have five Macs here all at 10.4.8. Two have Spotlight keyboard shortcuts of Command+Space and three have keyboard shortcuts of Control+Space. It's possible that I changed the shortcuts on those three machines but I honestly don't remember doing it (I maintain all computers in the shop). The two Macs with Command +Space did not have the Input Menu enabled under the International Preference pane. The Input Menu tab under the International Preference clearly states that Command+Space is the keyboard shortcut for previous input source. When I turn it on on those two Macs a little yellow warning marker appears saying I have a shortcut conflict. I also checked our one Mac that is still on 10.3.9 (pre-Spotlight) and Command+Space is the keyboard shortcut for the International Input Menu there as well. So I would guess that Apple made a mistake when it assigned Command+Space to Spotlight. Back to the original posters problem. His International Input kept changing on him and he didn't know why. I had had the same problem back in 10.3.? and I remembered that it was caused whenever I used the keyboard shortcut in Adobe Photoshop for the magnifying glass which is Command+Space. The shortcut worked in Photoshop but it also changed my keyboard input. Turning off the keyboard shortcut for the International Menu solved the problem. Come to think of it, I seem to remember the little Spotlight bar appearing at the upper right of my window whenever I'd use the magnifying glass in PS. So chances are I did change the Spotlight shortcut to Control+Space but just don't remember. Guess my mind is starting to go. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 5-Jan-07, at 8:10 AM, Daly Jessup wrote: > At 2:10 PM -0800 4/1/07, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: >> On 1/4/07 5:18 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: >> >>> I had a similar problem once before. Check your System >>> Preferences > >>> Keyboard & Mouse and see if "Input Menu" is checked. When it's >>> checked you can change keyboard layouts by pressing Command/Space, >>> the same keyboard shortcut in Photoshop to get the magnifying >>> glass. >>> Uncheck it and your problems should go away. >> >> It's actually the International pane that you should check in System >> Preferences (at least in Tiger). Also in Tiger, the Command-Space >> shortcut >> belongs to Spotlight. > > That's interesting. I see in the Mac Help menu that Command-Space > is as you say, for Spotlight. Yet in my International pref pane/ > Input Menu, the Input Menu Shortcuts part says: "Select previous > input source: CommandSpace" and "Select next input source in menu: > Command-Option-Space". > > I have now fixed this in the Keyboard Shortcuts pane, but it's > strange, because I would never have knowingly switched that > shortcut. Does anyone know what might have done it? I'm sure that > the original poster's shortcut had been changed for him, just as > mine was. > > Daly > ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From mark at astroprinting.com Fri Jan 5 08:13:14 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Fri Jan 5 08:16:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Size Zero KB bug? Message-ID: OS 10.4.8. Is there any way to stop the finder from displaying newly created files sizes as "Zero KB"? I know if I close the window and reopen it the correct size usually displays but I find it very annoying to have to do this. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com From meged at earthlink.net Fri Jan 5 09:08:34 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Fri Jan 5 09:08:44 2007 Subject: [X4U] Size Zero KB bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/5/07 8:13 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > Is there any way to stop the finder from displaying newly created > files sizes as "Zero KB"? I know if I close the window and reopen it > the correct size usually displays but I find it very annoying to have > to do this. Yes, the Finder's inability to update its info is very annoying. I find that selecting the new or modified file updates the list view details. You could also switch views and switch back. -- Eddie Hargreaves Stockton, CA From douglist at macnauchtan.com Fri Jan 5 10:01:15 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Fri Jan 5 10:01:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] Size Zero KB bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 09:08 -0800 1/5/07, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: >Yes, the Finder's inability to update its info is very annoying. tell application "Finder" tell front window update every file end tell end tell tell front window of application "Finder" to update every file I keep this around in a BBEdit worksheet so I can select and ENTER it. osascript << ENDSCRIPT tell front window of application \"Finder\" to update every file ENDSCRIPT But it should be possible to create an executable AppleScript application that can be double clicked using Script Editor. (Well. . . I'm worried that the double click might change the front window.) -- Applescript syntax is like English spelling: Roughly, though not thoroughly, thought through. From zoff at mac.com Fri Jan 5 11:04:28 2007 From: zoff at mac.com (John Azevedo) Date: Fri Jan 5 11:01:52 2007 Subject: [X4U] Selling PowerBook In-Reply-To: <5e9fbb0d0701041744s70decb56k819e4d0374129b30@mail.gmail.com> References: <2FE457AC-286B-4672-AE79-1B2034D680D6@mac.com> <20070104214025.1032641096@smtp.mac.com> <5e9fbb0d0701041744s70decb56k819e4d0374129b30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for all the responses. I just sold it to PowerMax. On Jan 4, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Dennis Thompson II wrote: > Just out of curiosity what are it's complete specs and how much are > you thinking of? > > On 1/4/07, T.L. Miller wrote: > On 1/4/07, at 4:14 PM, John Azevedo zoff@mac.com said: > > >I want to sell my 1.25 ghz PowerBook, any recommendations on were to > >sell it? > > eBay > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > > -- > D. 'Sky' T. > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070105/e30c3d2a/attachment-0001.html From XPressoBean at mac.com Fri Jan 5 11:26:55 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Fri Jan 5 11:27:03 2007 Subject: [X4U] Selling PowerBook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/5/07 1:04 PM, John Azevedo wrote: > Thanks for all the responses. I just sold it to PowerMax. PowerMax offered me $300 less than what I sold my G4 for on eBay. Unless your unit is non-working, for future reference, PowerMax is not going to put the most money in your pocket. :-) peace, Linda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070105/dd57b2fe/attachment.html From timjcollier at mac.com Fri Jan 5 12:36:46 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Fri Jan 5 12:37:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] Size Zero KB bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3FC3D2FB-08C8-4307-B9AB-456C6FF5899C@mac.com> Mark, try this. Go to the finder and click on view. If the Show Item Info is checked, uncheck it and this should go away. Tim On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > OS 10.4.8. > Is there any way to stop the finder from displaying newly created > files sizes as "Zero KB"? I know if I close the window and reopen > it the correct size usually displays but I find it very annoying to > have to do this. > > Mark Des Cotes > Systems Manager/Graphic Designer > > Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. > 3308 Second Street East > Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 > T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 > www.astroprinting.com > > > -- Tengo un manojo encantador de cocos. From mark at astroprinting.com Fri Jan 5 12:43:22 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Fri Jan 5 12:46:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Size Zero KB bug? In-Reply-To: <3FC3D2FB-08C8-4307-B9AB-456C6FF5899C@mac.com> References: <3FC3D2FB-08C8-4307-B9AB-456C6FF5899C@mac.com> Message-ID: <8893D718-706E-4CFF-8427-D495FBAEAFF3@astroprinting.com> Nope, not checked. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 5-Jan-07, at 3:36 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > Mark, try this. Go to the finder and click on view. If the Show > Item Info is checked, uncheck it and this should go away. > > Tim > On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > >> OS 10.4.8. >> Is there any way to stop the finder from displaying newly created >> files sizes as "Zero KB"? I know if I close the window and reopen >> it the correct size usually displays but I find it very annoying >> to have to do this. >> >> Mark Des Cotes >> Systems Manager/Graphic Designer >> >> Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. >> 3308 Second Street East >> Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 >> T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 >> www.astroprinting.com >> >> >> > > -- > Tengo un manojo encantador de cocos. > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From meged at earthlink.net Fri Jan 5 13:35:40 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Fri Jan 5 13:35:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] Size Zero KB bug? In-Reply-To: <3FC3D2FB-08C8-4307-B9AB-456C6FF5899C@mac.com> Message-ID: On 1/5/07 12:36 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > Mark, try this. Go to the finder and click on view. If the Show > Item Info is checked, uncheck it and this should go away. That's only available when displaying a folder's contents in Icon view. I think Mark's problem is that he is using List view and the Size column doesn't update the listings of newly modified files often enough. -- Eddie Hargreaves From netkat at comcast.net Fri Jan 5 17:15:09 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Fri Jan 5 17:15:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] Painter 7 and CPU time Message-ID: <7fcc5ddf306961702e48077b5b36a9fd@comcast.net> I know painter 7 isn't the latest, but I'm curious why, just sitting there, Painter will slurp up so much CPU power? I mean, the file I have open right now has been saved, no operations pending, that computer is doing nothing otherwise, and Painter hoovers up 53% or more of the CPU cycles, according to activity monitor. jeepers! nk From jessup at san.rr.com Fri Jan 5 18:44:50 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Fri Jan 5 18:46:25 2007 Subject: [X4U] Size Zero KB bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:08 AM -0800 5/1/07, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: >On 1/5/07 8:13 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > >> Is there any way to stop the finder from displaying newly created >> files sizes as "Zero KB"? I know if I close the window and reopen it >> the correct size usually displays but I find it very annoying to have >> to do this. > >Yes, the Finder's inability to update its info is very annoying. I find that >selecting the new or modified file updates the list view details. You could >also switch views and switch back. There's a freeware contextual menu called "Nudge" available at that will kind of "poke" the Finder into sorting itself out. It works quite well in resolving a problem that perhaps should not exist at all. Daly ---------------------- From macmonster at myrealbox.com Sat Jan 6 06:43:44 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Sat Jan 6 06:44:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Painter 7 and CPU time In-Reply-To: <7fcc5ddf306961702e48077b5b36a9fd@comcast.net> References: <7fcc5ddf306961702e48077b5b36a9fd@comcast.net> Message-ID: <271E76CD-8D47-4973-A10D-8897368639AE@myrealbox.com> On 6 Jan 2007, at 01:15, nk wrote: > I know painter 7 isn't the latest, but I'm curious why, just > sitting there, Painter will slurp up so much CPU power? > > I mean, the file I have open right now has been saved, no > operations pending, that computer is doing nothing otherwise, and > Painter hoovers up 53% or more of the CPU cycles, according to > activity monitor. Because it's a PPC app. You should expect overhead when running PPC apps on a MacIntel. Tch! Stroller. (I know you're using a G5 iMac. Actually, I don't. So you could give us some more information to work with) From netkat at comcast.net Sat Jan 6 11:28:10 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Sat Jan 6 11:28:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Painter 7 and CPU time In-Reply-To: <271E76CD-8D47-4973-A10D-8897368639AE@myrealbox.com> References: <7fcc5ddf306961702e48077b5b36a9fd@comcast.net> <271E76CD-8D47-4973-A10D-8897368639AE@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <591c1eb3f3bdb91ec75efa1f6aa82f1b@comcast.net> I'm not using macintel. I'm using a G4 Mini nk On Jan 6, 2007, at 6:43 AM, Stroller wrote: > Because it's a PPC app. You should expect overhead when running PPC > apps on a MacIntel. > > Tch! > > Stroller. From pandcsealy at internode.on.net Sun Jan 7 14:26:53 2007 From: pandcsealy at internode.on.net (Peter Sealy) Date: Sun Jan 7 14:27:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firewire In-Reply-To: <0E5E19CC-FCFF-4AF5-97DE-87E8ED905F7B@internode.on.net> References: <0E5E19CC-FCFF-4AF5-97DE-87E8ED905F7B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: On Mon 1 Jan,, at 9:26 AM, Peter Sealy wrote: > I have an external 400 Firewire HD which I connect to my > TiPowerBook as necessary to clone/backup my PowerBook system. When > I buy a new computer which has Firewire 800 speed will my 400 HD > still run on the new computer albeit at the slower 400 speed. I > know those speeds are theoretical but I guess what I am asking is > if a 400 HD is compatible with an 800 port on a new computer. I > hope I have expressed that clearly. Thanks to all who replied. I now have the info I needed. I apologise for starting a pedantry war! Obviously it was not "... expressed that clearly." ......... Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA From allan at nhbungalow.com Sun Jan 7 17:11:42 2007 From: allan at nhbungalow.com (Allan Rube=?ISO-8859-1?B?uSA=?=) Date: Sun Jan 7 17:11:54 2007 Subject: [X4U] Fixing firewire Message-ID: I have a MacPro running 10.4.8. I have a firewire compact card reader. It worked fine till today. It is not recognized. I even ran system profiler and nothing shows up on the bus. I then plugged in a firewire hard drive with the same result. It is not the reader or the drive as they work fine on my G4 Mac. Any suggestions? Allan Nashua, New Hampshire www.nebirds.com From lstnmt at bresnan.net Sun Jan 7 19:18:14 2007 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Sun Jan 7 19:18:28 2007 Subject: [X4U] Fixing firewire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FB4ACF4-3702-4FF4-A826-6FB39737E6F9@bresnan.net> Sounds to me like a hardware issue. Do you have an Apple store or dealer near you? I assume you restarted your computer as a test. Were you using the same cable when testing on the hard drive? Jens On Jan 7, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Allan Rube? wrote: > I have a MacPro running 10.4.8. I have a firewire compact card > reader. It > worked fine till today. It is not recognized. I even ran system > profiler and > nothing shows up on the bus. I then plugged in a firewire hard > drive with > the same result. > > It is not the reader or the drive as they work fine on my G4 Mac. From simon-lists at ldml.com Mon Jan 8 03:31:49 2007 From: simon-lists at ldml.com (Simon Forster) Date: Mon Jan 8 03:32:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] Fixing firewire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2570EC77-5D2F-4CD1-830F-C2D2034C07CF@ldml.com> On 8 Jan 2007, at 01:11, Allan Rube? wrote: > I have a MacPro running 10.4.8. I have a firewire compact card > reader. It > worked fine till today. It is not recognized. I even ran system > profiler and > nothing shows up on the bus. I then plugged in a firewire hard > drive with > the same result. > > It is not the reader or the drive as they work fine on my G4 Mac. > > Any suggestions? See Jens reply. The firewire 400 port on the back of my desktop machine started to show issues (data corruption when copying to/from an external hard drive). This was after a couple of years of hassle free use. Tests point to a firewire issue on the machine itself. You still have warranty no? Take it in. Simon Forster _______________________________________________________ LDML Ltd, 62 Pall Mall, London, SW1Y 5HZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)20 8133 0528 Fax: +44 (0)70 9230 5247 _______________________________________________________ From netkat at comcast.net Mon Jan 8 06:13:30 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Mon Jan 8 06:13:39 2007 Subject: [X4U] buying used macs Message-ID: <0bab329e0aaa48c6865cff3f1813a2f2@comcast.net> I'm interested in picking up maybe a couple used Minis, but I'd like to get some opinions first from those who have bought used Macs from CraigsList, etc. I'm not wild about horsing around with ebay, really... Obviously, I'm avoiding the CL ads offering brand-new, in-box, shrinkwrapped macbook pros for $500...and other sillyness.. Any experiences to share? thanks! nk From randy at macattorney.com Mon Jan 8 11:48:11 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B.Singer) Date: Mon Jan 8 11:52:34 2007 Subject: [X4U] buying used macs Message-ID: <20070108195232.057AE72CC42@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> nk said: >I'm interested in picking up maybe a couple used Minis, >Any experiences to share? I've had excellent results purchasing "factory refurbished" Macs from any of these three vendors. One nice thing about purchasing this way, as opposed to purchasing a used Mac from a private party, is that you get a warranty.: Apple Store SmallDog Mac User Group Store (if you are a member of a MUG)/PowerMax (if you aren't) http://www.applemugstore.com http://www.powermax.com I've found that sometimes you can call these places, and tell them what you want, and they may have it for you even if its not on their Web site. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html From allan at nhbungalow.com Tue Jan 9 04:18:57 2007 From: allan at nhbungalow.com (Allan Rube=?ISO-8859-1?B?uSA=?=) Date: Tue Jan 9 04:19:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] Fixing firewire - Summary In-Reply-To: <2FB4ACF4-3702-4FF4-A826-6FB39737E6F9@bresnan.net> Message-ID: I am agreeing with Jen and Simon that I need to take it to Apple. The devises work fine on another Mac and suggestions to fix it - shutting down, removing cables, resetting the SMC, did not work. Allan Jens Selvig wrote: > Sounds to me like a hardware issue. Do you have an Apple store or > dealer near you? I assume you restarted your computer as a test. Were > you using the same cable when testing on the hard drive? > > Jens > > > On Jan 7, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Allan Rube? wrote: > >> I have a MacPro running 10.4.8. I have a firewire compact card >> reader. It >> worked fine till today. It is not recognized. I even ran system >> profiler and >> nothing shows up on the bus. I then plugged in a firewire hard >> drive with >> the same result. >> >> It is not the reader or the drive as they work fine on my G4 Mac. > From mark at astroprinting.com Tue Jan 9 05:11:38 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Tue Jan 9 05:15:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] buying used macs In-Reply-To: <20070108195232.057AE72CC42@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070108195232.057AE72CC42@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <4C903CBD-1042-4C81-B3F1-95C7A331F84A@astroprinting.com> My last two Macs were refurbished machines bought directly from Apple. Both were still current models at the time of purchase but I got them at close to a $800 off the regular price (plus free shipping). They had full warranties and I was able to purchase an Apple Care plan for both. They even qualified for two special promotions Apple was having. At the time they had a promotion going on that if you purchased any iMac they would throw in 256MB RAM for free. I asked about the refurbished Macs and they guy said the promotion was for "any iMac" so I got the free RAM upgrade. They were also having a promotion where you received a $159 rebate if you purchased a printer at the same time as a Mac. I picked a $179 Epson printer from their list which cost me $20. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 8-Jan-07, at 2:48 PM, Randy B.Singer wrote: > nk said: > >> I'm interested in picking up maybe a couple used Minis, > >> Any experiences to share? > > I've had excellent results purchasing "factory refurbished" Macs > from any > of these three vendors. One nice thing about purchasing this way, as > opposed to purchasing a used Mac from a private party, is that you > get a > warranty.: > > Apple Store > RSLID?f > ind=refurbished+mini&btn.x=0&btn.y=0> > > SmallDog > restrict=&exclude=&method=and > &sort=score&words=refurbished> > > Mac User Group Store (if you are a member of a MUG)/PowerMax (if you > aren't) > http://www.applemugstore.com > http://www.powermax.com > > I've found that sometimes you can call these places, and tell them > what > you want, and they may have it for you even if its not on their Web > site. > > > > Randy B. Singer > > Co-Author of: > The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) > > OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From mark at astroprinting.com Tue Jan 9 09:01:39 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Tue Jan 9 09:05:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk Message-ID: Is there any way to change the behaviour in the Finder so that when I drag a file or folder onto a blank CD or DVD it actually copies the info instead of creating an Alias? I know I to hold the Option key while dragging but sometimes when I'm in a rush old habits return and I forget the Option key. Just this morning I burnt a CD full of Aliases for a customer that was waiting at the counter. What's the point of creating an Alias on a CD or DVD anyway? Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Jan 9 09:14:20 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Jan 9 09:14:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/9/07 11:01 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > Is there any way to change the behaviour in the Finder so that when I > drag a file or folder onto a blank CD or DVD it actually copies the > info instead of creating an Alias? I know I to hold the Option key > while dragging but sometimes when I'm in a rush old habits return and > I forget the Option key. Just this morning I burnt a CD full of > Aliases for a customer that was waiting at the counter. What's the > point of creating an Alias on a CD or DVD anyway? What version OS are you using, Mark? I've never created an alias by simply dragging to a CD or DVD. Sounds like there's a setting somewhere (though at quick glance I can't find it -- do you have third-party mouse/trackball software installed?). From macmonster at myrealbox.com Tue Jan 9 09:28:26 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Tue Jan 9 09:28:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B3C7B70-7130-42CA-8074-EABB9CED0213@myrealbox.com> On 9 Jan 2007, at 17:01, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > Is there any way to change the behaviour in the Finder so that when > I drag a file or folder onto a blank CD or DVD it actually copies > the info instead of creating an Alias? I know I to hold the Option > key while dragging but sometimes when I'm in a rush old habits > return and I forget the Option key. Just this morning I burnt a CD > full of Aliases for a customer that was waiting at the counter. > What's the point of creating an Alias on a CD or DVD anyway? Sounds like a bug with your system. I only ever drag & drop files when burning a CD or DVD, never using the option key. I always see an icon that looks like an alias (I had to check this, because I never use aliases) but when I click burn the full files are burned to the disk correctly (and as one would intuitively expect). No "aliases" are burned to disk on my 10.4 systems. Stroller. From jhurley at infostations.com Tue Jan 9 10:32:33 2007 From: jhurley at infostations.com (James Hurley) Date: Tue Jan 9 10:32:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] Where does "Mail" store data In-Reply-To: <20070108031833.672FA722797@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070108031833.672FA722797@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <4D265170-783D-4AD6-800A-9AA2B5CC467E@infostations.com> When I back up I would like to include messages and address stored by the Mac Mail application. Where would I find this folder? Thanks, Jim Hurley From kirkmc at mac.com Tue Jan 9 10:35:22 2007 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Tue Jan 9 10:35:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Where does "Mail" store data In-Reply-To: <4D265170-783D-4AD6-800A-9AA2B5CC467E@infostations.com> References: <20070108031833.672FA722797@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <4D265170-783D-4AD6-800A-9AA2B5CC467E@infostations.com> Message-ID: On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:32 PM, James Hurley wrote: > When I back up I would like to include messages and address stored > by the Mac Mail application. > > Where would I find this folder? It's your [username]/Library/Mail folder. Addresses are [username]/ Library/Application Support/Address Book. Kirk Author of: iPod & iTunes Garage http://www.mcelhearn.com/ipod.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From jelmore at elmoredesign.com Tue Jan 9 10:36:04 2007 From: jelmore at elmoredesign.com (Jim Elmore) Date: Tue Jan 9 10:36:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] Where does "Mail" store data In-Reply-To: <4D265170-783D-4AD6-800A-9AA2B5CC467E@infostations.com> References: <20070108031833.672FA722797@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <4D265170-783D-4AD6-800A-9AA2B5CC467E@infostations.com> Message-ID: <5B4430F5-5CD4-4D09-8510-D171A36F51BC@elmoredesign.com> ~/Library/Mail On Jan 9, 2007, at 12:32 PM, James Hurley wrote: > When I back up I would like to include messages and address stored > by the Mac Mail application. > > Where would I find this folder? > > Thanks, > > Jim Hurley > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From mark at astroprinting.com Tue Jan 9 11:16:12 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Tue Jan 9 11:19:43 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: <7B3C7B70-7130-42CA-8074-EABB9CED0213@myrealbox.com> References: <7B3C7B70-7130-42CA-8074-EABB9CED0213@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <4861140B-5CEA-42A8-BD33-3000FB0041A0@astroprinting.com> Boy, do I feel stupid. I just experimented by dragging a folder onto a CD with the Option key held down. A progress bar appeared showing the folder being copied over. I then dragged another folder over this time without the Option key. This time there was no progress bar. (both folder are aprox 100MB in size). Checking the disk on the desktop shows both folders, one listed as a folder the other as an Alias. That's where I would pause in the past. I would remove the Alias and, holding the Option key drag the folder over again. This time I didn't I just burned the disk. After the burn, low and behold I have two complete folders on the CD. The difference being the one I dragged over with the Option key held lists today's date and the time I dragged it over. The one that was an Alias lists the actual date and time the folder was last modified. All this time I've thought I had been burning Aliases when I forgot the Option key. I've thrown out who knows how many disks and started over without ever checking them. Never too old to learn. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 9-Jan-07, at 12:28 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On 9 Jan 2007, at 17:01, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > >> Is there any way to change the behaviour in the Finder so that >> when I drag a file or folder onto a blank CD or DVD it actually >> copies the info instead of creating an Alias? I know I to hold the >> Option key while dragging but sometimes when I'm in a rush old >> habits return and I forget the Option key. Just this morning I >> burnt a CD full of Aliases for a customer that was waiting at the >> counter. What's the point of creating an Alias on a CD or DVD anyway? > > Sounds like a bug with your system. I only ever drag & drop files > when burning a CD or DVD, never using the option key. I always see > an icon that looks like an alias (I had to check this, because I > never use aliases) but when I click burn the full files are burned > to the disk correctly (and as one would intuitively expect). No > "aliases" are burned to disk on my 10.4 systems. > > Stroller. > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From vallwardt at mac.com Tue Jan 9 12:34:03 2007 From: vallwardt at mac.com (Vicki Allwardt) Date: Tue Jan 9 12:34:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] Address Book Message-ID: This morning all the contacts in my address book have completely disappeared. I ran the update on iChat yesterday. Even the help file won't work in Address Book. I have .mac, but that won't sync the info into the book either. Is it dead? Need to reinstall? Dumped preference panes. Vicki Allwardt vallwardt@mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070109/7cd8dab8/attachment.html From jperdman at earthlink.net Tue Jan 9 15:02:24 2007 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Tue Jan 9 15:02:34 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: <4861140B-5CEA-42A8-BD33-3000FB0041A0@astroprinting.com> References: <7B3C7B70-7130-42CA-8074-EABB9CED0213@myrealbox.com> <4861140B-5CEA-42A8-BD33-3000FB0041A0@astroprinting.com> Message-ID: <2E7956D3-95CC-48E2-8A87-E6C703C12A2E@earthlink.net> And by pure concidence this happens to be the Mac OSX "tip of the week" that shows up on my screen saver. http://www.apple.com/pro/tips/burningaliases.html John From jhurley0305 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 10 09:32:39 2007 From: jhurley0305 at sbcglobal.net (James Hurley) Date: Wed Jan 10 09:32:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] Where does "Mail" store data In-Reply-To: <20070109183611.E32D2738935@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070109183611.E32D2738935@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: > >On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:32 PM, James Hurley wrote: > >> When I back up I would like to include messages and address stored >> by the Mac Mail application. >> >> Where would I find this folder? > >It's your [username]/Library/Mail folder. Addresses are [username]/ >Library/Application Support/Address Book. > > >Kirk Thanks Kirk and Jim. It looks like the Library Folder might be a good thing to include in my back-up routine. Jim From colin at eleventhvolume.com Wed Jan 10 14:54:41 2007 From: colin at eleventhvolume.com (eleventhvolume) Date: Wed Jan 10 14:55:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Entourage to Mail, considering migration Message-ID: Does anybody know of an online guide to migrating from Entourage to Mail? I've used the former for years, but am attracted by the number of add-ons and tweaks now available for the latter, also the potential for synchronisation across devices a la the new iPhone - being in the UK, I guess I have at least 9 months to make the move. I've tried the File > Import in Mail, but it ends up very messy - I have multiple accounts, rules, subfolders, archives etc in Entourage. Any pointers gratefully received. All the best, Colin. [http://www.eleventhvolume.com] From jelmore at elmoredesign.com Wed Jan 10 18:28:24 2007 From: jelmore at elmoredesign.com (Jim Elmore) Date: Wed Jan 10 18:28:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] Entourage to Mail, considering migration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <603929A1-0F96-410C-B97B-8F4713403A42@elmoredesign.com> I did that and yes it was messy to get it all done. It was a while back, but it did get done. Took a while. Seems like I split up my Entourage mail in to several different users, imported them in to Mail separately and then reorganized. For addresses, I found it easiest to select contacts in Entourage, copy and then paste into address book. I didn't even try to import calendar events. Fun! On Jan 10, 2007, at 4:54 PM, eleventhvolume wrote: > > Does anybody know of an online guide to migrating from Entourage to > Mail? > I've used the former for years, but am attracted by the number of > add-ons > and tweaks now available for the latter, also the potential for > synchronisation across devices a la the new iPhone - being in the > UK, I > guess I have at least 9 months to make the move. I've tried the File > > Import in Mail, but it ends up very messy - I have multiple > accounts, rules, > subfolders, archives etc in Entourage. Any pointers gratefully > received. > > All the best, Colin. > > [http://www.eleventhvolume.com] > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From meged at earthlink.net Wed Jan 10 18:33:43 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Wed Jan 10 18:33:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: <2E7956D3-95CC-48E2-8A87-E6C703C12A2E@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On 1/9/07 3:02 PM, John Erdman wrote: > And by pure concidence this happens to be the Mac OSX "tip of the > week" that shows up on my screen saver. > > http://www.apple.com/pro/tips/burningaliases.html Yeah, the Tiger method of burning CDs and DVDs via the Finder sucks. If they have to run a Pro Tip just to explain its basic functionality, then it's no good. Mark, you're not the only person who has assumed that it burns aliases. I read criticism from a switcher about it online. -- Eddie Hargreaves At Macworld Expo From jessup at san.rr.com Wed Jan 10 21:25:56 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Wed Jan 10 21:51:02 2007 Subject: [X4U] Entourage to Mail, considering migration In-Reply-To: <603929A1-0F96-410C-B97B-8F4713403A42@elmoredesign.com> References: <603929A1-0F96-410C-B97B-8F4713403A42@elmoredesign.com> Message-ID: At 8:28 PM -0600 1/10/07, Jim Elmore wrote: > >It was a while back, but it did get done. Took a while. Seems like I >split up my Entourage mail in to several different users, imported >them in to Mail separately and then reorganized. Wow, complicated. >For addresses, I found it easiest to select contacts in Entourage, >copy and then paste into address book. Here's a description of a process he says worked very well for Entourage contacts to Address Book: >I didn't even try to import calendar events. Well under File/Import in iCal it does offer to import Entourage data. It certainly would be worth trying, at least. Daly ---------------------- From macmonster at myrealbox.com Wed Jan 10 22:55:59 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Wed Jan 10 22:56:17 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11 Jan 2007, at 02:33, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: > On 1/9/07 3:02 PM, John Erdman wrote: > >> And by pure concidence this happens to be the Mac OSX "tip of the >> week" that shows up on my screen saver. >> >> http://www.apple.com/pro/tips/burningaliases.html > > Yeah, the Tiger method of burning CDs and DVDs via the Finder > sucks. If they > have to run a Pro Tip just to explain its basic functionality, then > it's no > good. That Pro Tip seemed redundant to me. > Mark, you're not the only person who has assumed that it burns > aliases. I read criticism from a switcher about it online. I'm surprised! I didn't know what an alias was before I switched, and I have used them surely on only a handful of occasions. CD-burning in Finder (did they add it in 10.3??) has always "just made sense" to me, and I never thought of the icons on the disk as being "aliases" but instead "shortcut icons indicating the files that are going to be burned". In fact the drag-n-drop CD-burning in Windows XP is remarkably similar to Finder's CD-burning, and I'd expect anyone who has undertaken that to find OS X's CD-burning seamless. I'm pretty sure I learned them the other way around (OS X first) myself, but the only difference in XP is that the icons-indicating-the-files-that-are- going-to-be-burned are not identical to Windows' shortcut icons - just very similar. Stroller. From mark at astroprinting.com Thu Jan 11 05:41:10 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Thu Jan 11 05:44:37 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stroller, The problem is that Apple changed their method during one of their OS upgrades. I think it was Tiger but I could be wrong. Before, when you inserted a blank CD or DVD the computer created a sort of "temporary partition" for it (I don't know the technical aspect, this is just the way I saw it) If you checked your HD space some of it was missing due to the blank media using it. When you dragged files onto a CD or DVD in the finder they would in fact be copied, in full, to this new partition. Then after you burnt the disk the OS would release the temporary partition and you would have your HD space back. Then Apple changed things and now inserting a blank CD or DVD creates a "burn folder". I see now, after reading the weekly tip, that the files dragged to the disk are Aliases that reference the actual files at the time of burning and that this method is somehow more efficient than the old way. But for someone like me who's been burning disks on Mac since OS 8, if not earlier, it was strange to see Aliases added when I dragged my files over. As I stated in my first post, if you hold the Option key while dragging your files over they do in fact get copied to the burn folder. I don't know if that compromises the efficiency or not. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 11-Jan-07, at 1:55 AM, Stroller wrote: > > On 11 Jan 2007, at 02:33, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: >> On 1/9/07 3:02 PM, John Erdman wrote: >> >>> And by pure concidence this happens to be the Mac OSX "tip of the >>> week" that shows up on my screen saver. >>> >>> http://www.apple.com/pro/tips/burningaliases.html >> >> Yeah, the Tiger method of burning CDs and DVDs via the Finder >> sucks. If they >> have to run a Pro Tip just to explain its basic functionality, >> then it's no >> good. > > That Pro Tip seemed redundant to me. > >> Mark, you're not the only person who has assumed that it burns >> aliases. I read criticism from a switcher about it online. > > I'm surprised! I didn't know what an alias was before I switched, > and I have used them surely on only a handful of occasions. CD- > burning in Finder (did they add it in 10.3??) has always "just made > sense" to me, and I never thought of the icons on the disk as being > "aliases" but instead "shortcut icons indicating the files that are > going to be burned". > > In fact the drag-n-drop CD-burning in Windows XP is remarkably > similar to Finder's CD-burning, and I'd expect anyone who has > undertaken that to find OS X's CD-burning seamless. I'm pretty sure > I learned them the other way around (OS X first) myself, but the > only difference in XP is that the icons-indicating-the-files-that- > are-going-to-be-burned are not identical to Windows' shortcut icons > - just very similar. > > Stroller. > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jessup at san.rr.com Thu Jan 11 07:01:12 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Thu Jan 11 07:01:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:41 AM -0500 1/11/07, Mark Des Cotes wrote: >ut for someone like me who's been burning disks on Mac since OS 8, >if not earlier, it was strange to see Aliases added when I dragged >my files over. As I stated in my first post, if you hold the Option >key while dragging your files over they do in fact get copied to the >burn folder. I don't know if that compromises the efficiency or not. Well, it's certainly faster to make a pointer rather than copying files. Once it burns, it takes the same amount of time, of course. But the preparing is much quicker, isn't it? Daly ---------------------- From mark at astroprinting.com Thu Jan 11 07:29:55 2007 From: mark at astroprinting.com (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Thu Jan 11 07:33:24 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4715999A-BFC7-41E8-8F9B-37DB0A2A2F99@astroprinting.com> I totally agree. I just wish I had figured the whole thing out long ago. It could have saved me a lot of time and wasted disks for nothing. Mark Des Cotes Systems Manager/Graphic Designer Astro Printing Service (Cornwall) Ltd. 3308 Second Street East Cornwall Ontario Canada K6H 6J8 T (613) 932-9281 Ext 106, F (613) 932-1052 www.astroprinting.com On 11-Jan-07, at 10:01 AM, Daly Jessup wrote: > At 8:41 AM -0500 1/11/07, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > >> ut for someone like me who's been burning disks on Mac since OS 8, >> if not earlier, it was strange to see Aliases added when I dragged >> my files over. As I stated in my first post, if you hold the >> Option key while dragging your files over they do in fact get >> copied to the burn folder. I don't know if that compromises the >> efficiency or not. > > Well, it's certainly faster to make a pointer rather than copying > files. Once it burns, it takes the same amount of time, of course. > But the preparing is much quicker, isn't it? > > Daly > ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From netkat at comcast.net Thu Jan 11 08:56:40 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Thu Jan 11 08:57:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel Message-ID: Anyone here who owns both and can talk about whatever issues there might be networking them together? I'm thinking about the small, at-home set up with either a simple router, or a DSL switch/router. thanks! nk From mcclernan1 at comcast.net Thu Jan 11 10:49:04 2007 From: mcclernan1 at comcast.net (John McClernan) Date: Thu Jan 11 10:49:14 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <571DB52F-4508-455D-9C8A-A957768C30FD@comcast.net> Intel mini iMac white G3 PowerBook... all using the same wireless router at home. No issues. Can access each machine from each other machine, swap files, share printers (Xerox 6120N, Canon MP800, Epson 740i). Easy, easy, easy. cheer, JOhn On Jan 11, 2007, at 11:56 AM, nk wrote: > Anyone here who owns both and can talk about whatever issues there > might be networking them together? > > I'm thinking about the small, at-home set up with either a simple > router, or a DSL switch/router. > > thanks! > > nk > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From rgilmor at uwo.ca Thu Jan 11 12:00:52 2007 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Thu Jan 11 12:01:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I network my Intel and PPC Macs both 10.4 without major issues. However I've got my networked Mac setup with an icon in the dock and even though I have the remember user name and password box checked it doesn't. I always have to reenter the user name and password of the Mac I'm trying to contact. Don't know if it's an Intel/PPC thing or a 10.4 thing other than that I find no difference in networking PPC/Intel. On 11/1/07 11:56 AM, "nk" wrote: > Anyone here who owns both and can talk about whatever issues there > might be networking them together? > > I'm thinking about the small, at-home set up with either a simple > router, or a DSL switch/router. > > thanks! > > nk > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 ---------------- Richard Gilmore Media Production Centre Faculty of Education University of Western Ontario rgilmor@uwo.ca In theory there is no difference between theory and practice... In practice there is - Yogi Berra From timjcollier at mac.com Thu Jan 11 17:06:10 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Thu Jan 11 17:06:25 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ED592A7-1581-405B-A558-CA6BA30E01D9@mac.com> On Jan 11, 2007, at 11:56 AM, nk wrote: > Anyone here who owns both and can talk about whatever issues there > might be networking them together? > > I'm thinking about the small, at-home set up with either a simple > router, or a DSL switch/router. > > thanks! > > nk > That was my original setup. I bought a simple D-Link router which connected to my DSL modem (I have cable now) and everything worked just fine. You can either assign an IP address to the individual Macs or use DHCP and have them assigned. Now, I use the Airport Extreme base station and my house is completely wireless. I have 4 Macs on the network plus a network printer. Oh, the Macs: 2 desktops, one Intel and the other a G5, 2 Intel laptops that we use at the other end of the house. Mac networking is simple, especially if you use Apple Hardware. It becomes a bit more complicated if you start using Linksys or D-Link, etc routers (wired or wireless). Anyway, I've had my wireless network running for the past 4 years with Apple hardware without ONE SINGLE problem. The DSL or Cable modem has to connect to the router, be it wired or wireless. It goes to the WAN port and on a wired network, the Macs connect to the LAN ports. If it's a wireless network, all you have to do is connect the DSL or Cable Modem to the WAN port. Tim From jessup at san.rr.com Thu Jan 11 20:07:11 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Thu Jan 11 20:16:52 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:56 AM -0800 1/11/07, nk wrote: >Anyone here who owns both and can talk about whatever issues there >might be networking them together? > >I'm thinking about the small, at-home set up with either a simple >router, or a DSL switch/router. I have a client with a MacBook Pro and a G6 5 and a Windows PC running Window XP Pro and they all network just fine, Daly ---------------------- From earle.jones at comcast.net Thu Jan 11 22:41:57 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Thu Jan 11 22:42:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: <4ED592A7-1581-405B-A558-CA6BA30E01D9@mac.com> References: <4ED592A7-1581-405B-A558-CA6BA30E01D9@mac.com> Message-ID: <922623A8-9BF4-45B6-A958-81B2B014F98E@comcast.net> On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2007, at 11:56 AM, nk wrote: > >> Anyone here who owns both and can talk about whatever issues there >> might be networking them together? >> >> I'm thinking about the small, at-home set up with either a simple >> router, or a DSL switch/router. >> >> thanks! >> >> nk * nk: If your G4 is pretty old (that is, not compatible with Airport Extreme), and... If you can find an old original Mac Airport card (not Airport Extreme) for it, Then, you can use the Airport Extreme Base Station, which will recognize both the Intel Mac (which has Airport Extreme wired in) and the G4. This is what I did -- the connection was pretty simple -- and very reliable. Never any network problems. And no penalty in speed -- I typically get 4 to 5 Mbps (download) via my Comcast connection. You can save a couple of pennies with 3rd-party routers (Linksys, etc.), but for ultimate reliability, stick with Mac. My next project is to connect the Airport Extreme Base Station to my (upstairs) TIVO, if I can convince myself that the TIVO wireless adapter is compatible with the Base Station. Has anyone tried this? The TIVO paperwork says that the adapter is compatible with both Mac and PC, but I need more info. If they are compatible, I will be able to do all sorts of stuff -- in addition to updating the TIVO program material, I can play my iTunes lilbrary on my TV and show all sorts of pix and movies, etc. earle * From meged at earthlink.net Thu Jan 11 23:31:51 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Thu Jan 11 23:31:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: <922623A8-9BF4-45B6-A958-81B2B014F98E@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 1/11/07 10:41 PM, Earle Jones wrote: > My next project is to connect the Airport Extreme Base Station to my > (upstairs) TIVO, if I can convince myself that the TIVO wireless > adapter is compatible with the Base Station. Has anyone tried this? In my household, we have our TiVo connected to our local area network, which is provided by an AirPort Extreme Base Station. It doesn't use the official TiVo-branded adapater, but that's because it didn't exist at the time I originally hooked it up (it didn't exist back then). -- Eddie Hargreaves From earle.jones at comcast.net Thu Jan 11 23:38:46 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Thu Jan 11 23:38:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <65AA479C-8F66-45A1-AA9A-F436EE0F5746@comcast.net> On Jan 11, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Eddie Hargreaves wrote: > On 1/11/07 10:41 PM, Earle Jones wrote: > >> My next project is to connect the Airport Extreme Base Station to my >> (upstairs) TIVO, if I can convince myself that the TIVO wireless >> adapter is compatible with the Base Station. Has anyone tried this? > > In my household, we have our TiVo connected to our local area > network, which > is provided by an AirPort Extreme Base Station. It doesn't use the > official > TiVo-branded adapater, but that's because it didn't exist at the > time I > originally hooked it up (it didn't exist back then). > > -- > Eddie Hargreaves * Eddie: Hi! Did you hook up your TIVO to your base station with the USB cable? Or wirelessly? Which TIVO adapter did you use? earle * From phillip at madgestevens.net Thu Jan 11 23:59:25 2007 From: phillip at madgestevens.net (Phillip Deackes) Date: Thu Jan 11 23:59:35 2007 Subject: [X4U] Entourage to Mail, considering migration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45A73FDD.4000405@madgestevens.net> eleventhvolume wrote: > Does anybody know of an online guide to migrating from Entourage to Mail? > I've used the former for years, but am attracted by the number of add-ons > and tweaks now available for the latter, also the potential for > synchronisation across devices a la the new iPhone - being in the UK, I > guess I have at least 9 months to make the move. I've tried the File > > Import in Mail, but it ends up very messy - I have multiple accounts, rules, > subfolders, archives etc in Entourage. Any pointers gratefully received. I can't help with migration, because I use IMAP rather than POP. Most email providers do IMAP (including .Mac) which basically means you can use any email client (Mail, Entourage, Thunderbird, Outlook etc..) interchangeably without worrying about syncing anything. You can also use a portable device to check mail on the go without concerning yourself with any technical or syncing issues. IMAP means that all your mail is stored remotely on your email provider's server. Delete a message in one app/machine and all other machines are in perfect sync. All IMAP clients will cache messages locally if desired (usually the default) so you can still access mail when you are not connected to the net. If anyone ants to try IMAP for free and their provider doesn't offer it, have a look at www.fastmail.fm who offer free IMAP accounts. Just something you might like to think about for the future to avoid similar issues. It is nice to use different email apps as the mood takes you! -- Phillip Deackes From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 01:32:55 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Jan 12 01:33:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] Networking PPC and MacIntel In-Reply-To: <922623A8-9BF4-45B6-A958-81B2B014F98E@comcast.net> References: <4ED592A7-1581-405B-A558-CA6BA30E01D9@mac.com> <922623A8-9BF4-45B6-A958-81B2B014F98E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <50A1D6F6-BEBE-4397-B405-D3B7B432222E@gmail.com> On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Earle Jones wrote: >> On Jan 11, 2007, at 11:56 AM, nk wrote: >> >> Anyone here who owns both and can talk about whatever issues there >> might be networking them together? >> I'm thinking about the small, at-home set up with either a simple >> router, or a DSL switch/router. There are no issues inherent to differences between PPC and Intel based Macs. > nk: > > If your G4 is pretty old (that is, not compatible with Airport > Extreme), and... > If you can find an old original Mac Airport card (not Airport > Extreme) for it, > Then, you can use the Airport Extreme Base Station, which will > recognize both the Intel Mac (which has Airport Extreme wired in) > and the G4. > ... It is compatible with Airport Extreme, which is just Apple's branding of the 802.11g wireless networking standard, given that you install the correct hardware. What it is not compatible with is the Airport Extreme card, however there are several 802.11g USB and PCI solutions that will work just fine in an AGP G4 and with an Airport Extreme BaseStation. (See http://www.xlr8yourmac.com for user reports on working solutions.) > You can save a couple of pennies with 3rd-party routers (Linksys, > etc.), Actually you can save several tens of dollars by choosing a non-Apple solution. > but for ultimate reliability, stick with Mac. This is nonsense. Do you have any statistically valid data to back this claim up with? The early Airport Extreme BaseStations actually had enough reliability problems to gain public notice. > My next project is to connect the Airport Extreme Base Station to > my (upstairs) TIVO, if I can convince myself that the TIVO wireless > adapter is compatible with the Base Station. Short of an implementation error by TiVo or Apple there's no reason to believe that it won't work. The TiVo part is just an expensive 802.11g adaptor. Phil From macmonster at myrealbox.com Fri Jan 12 03:26:54 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Fri Jan 12 03:27:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] dragging files to burn onto disk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6885E120-EAA4-45F6-9602-6F5770EACCF8@myrealbox.com> Ah! Of course! I knew something changed around the 10.3 / 10.4 mark. I did not intend to criticise you with my reply - what is natural & normal to one person is hideously obscure to another - merely to remark that I'm surprised switchers (of all people!) should have problems with the newer interface. Stroller. On 11 Jan 2007, at 13:41, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > ... > The problem is that Apple changed their method during one of their > OS upgrades. I think it was Tiger but I could be wrong. Before, > when you inserted a blank CD or DVD the computer created a sort of > "temporary partition" for it (I don't know the technical aspect, > this is just the way I saw it) If you checked your HD space some of > it was missing due to the blank media using it. When you dragged > files onto a CD or DVD in the finder they would in fact be copied, > in full, to this new partition. Then after you burnt the disk the > OS would release the temporary partition and you would have your HD > space back. Then Apple changed things and now inserting a blank CD > or DVD creates a "burn folder". I see now, after reading the weekly > tip, that the files dragged to the disk are Aliases that reference > the actual files at the time of burning and that this method is > somehow more efficient than the old way. But for someone like me > who's been burning disks on Mac since OS 8, if not earlier, it was > strange to see Aliases added when I dragged my files over. As I > stated in my first post, if you hold the Option key while dragging > your files over they do in fact get copied to the burn folder. I > don't know if that compromises the efficiency or not. > ... >> CD-burning in Finder (did they add it in 10.3??) has always "just >> made sense" to me, and I never thought of the icons on the disk as >> being "aliases" but instead "shortcut icons indicating the files >> that are going to be burned". >> >> In fact the drag-n-drop CD-burning in Windows XP is remarkably >> similar to Finder's CD-burning, and I'd expect anyone who has >> undertaken that to find OS X's CD-burning seamless. I'm pretty >> sure I learned them the other