At 1:59 PM -0800 1/14/07, Randy B.Singer wrote: >Zane H. Healy said: > >>I'm only still attached to one Classic App, and that is ClarisDraw. >>I have yet to find what I consider an acceptable replacement for >>ClarisDraw. It is simple and easy to use, it does what I want, and I >>know how to make it do what I want. At least I've managed to break >>myself of using Adobe PageMill 3.0, though I still prefer it to Adobe > >GoLive CS. > >If you ever intend to upgrade to a new Macintosh, I suggest that you >might want to wean yourself from those legacy applications now, while you >can still find applications that can read your old files. A few years >from now you may find it really difficult to find something that is >backwards compatible with your old ClarisDraw files. You just made me realize something, in the last couple years there have finally been applications capable of reading MacDraw/ClarisDraw files. I really should buy one of those simply to be able to convert my ClarisDraw files should I want to at some point in the future. >I fully understand the pain that is involved with moving away from a >much-loved and well understood application, but I can't buy the argument >that there isn't anything as good as ClarisDraw or Adobe PageMill. >At Macworld Expo last week I saw no less than four new draw programs >being demoed, and though I had no real interest in them, they all looked >really good and easy to figure out how to use. I know there are better programs than ClarisDraw, I even own versions of Canvas, Adobe Illustrator CS, and Freehand. I've also downloaded demo's for a few others. I *REALLY WANT* to move to using Adobe Illustrator now that I finally own a copy (part of Creative Suite). The problem is that I only rarely use a drawing program, and Illustrator has a definite learning curve. I've been threatening to check out the CAD software available o the Mac, as I think it would be better suited for what I do. >And I used Adobe PageMill when it was current, and I've used quite a few >Web site creation programs since, and frankly I never did think that >PageMill was all that good, even when it was available. There are at >least a dozen other Web site creation programs available, several of >which make things really easy by offering really nice templates to work >from, and one of them has to be able to make you love it. Though I use >Adobe GoLive (which is, admittedly, a bear to learn to use), I just got >Apple's iWeb (it came with my new iMac) and I am blown away at how nice >(and easy!) it is for your average user. I've never claimed to be the average user :^) I actually create most of my web pages either with Perl scripts that I write, DEC Document (you don't even want to know :^), or a text editor. Yes, PageMill was pretty weak, but for simple, basic websites it worked great! For those, GoLive is overkill. I'm finding that I mainly use GoLive CS as a text editor that allows me to preview the webpages I'm working on. I just got iWeb a couple months ago, and haven't had time to really play with it. I don't use .Mac, so I'd have to come up with my own website updating solution I believe (not a problem, as I have to do this for one of my GoLive manages sites). >I think that a little pain now will save you from a ton a pain in a few >years, Zane, if you ever aspire to get a new Macintosh. Really the only application that I have that I actively use that won't run on a new Mac is ClarisDraw. I've been trying unsuccessfully to get off of it for about 4 years, as I figured at some point classic apps would no longer be supported on Mac OS X. BTW, thanks for the pointer to Sheepshaver in the other message. I don't remember being aware of it, though I might have been. If I remember correctly it was once a commercial application on the Amiga. I'll have to give it a try, as it would also allow me to run "Warlords 2" which I haven't been able to run since the first G4's came out, and "Master of Orion" my other "must have" classic app. I also own the PC version's of both, but the Mac ports are vastly superior, as they allow greater than 640x480 resolution. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |