From randy at macattorney.com Tue May 1 19:08:02 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Tue May 1 19:08:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels Message-ID: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> I've asked this on a couple of Mac discussion lists, with no satisfactory answers. I hope to have better luck here. Putting aside shrink-wrap licensing issues, can anyone tell me if Vista Home Basic works with Parallels? (I'm looking for first hand experience.) Has anyone here used this combination successfully? Are there any invaluable features in any of the other editions of Vista that would make me want to consider them instead? Checking here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/ choose.mspx I don't see any. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From timjcollier at mac.com Wed May 2 01:44:32 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed May 2 01:44:50 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> Message-ID: I recently had a MacBook (1.83 gig--sorta on the low end) I decided to Run Vista Basic Home Edition on it via BootCamp. It ran very well....even faster (my opinion) than OSX. I then upgraded to the latest MacBook Pro and decided to run Vista Basic Home Edition via Parallels, it ran just as well. But now, I decided I don't want Windows of any type on my MacBook Pro and have removed it. But the overall performance was quite good. That's my personal experience. I'm now selling the Install software on ebay. We'll see how that goes. Tim On May 1, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > I've asked this on a couple of Mac discussion lists, with no > satisfactory answers. I hope to have better luck here. > > Putting aside shrink-wrap licensing issues, can anyone tell me if > Vista Home Basic works with Parallels? (I'm looking for first hand > experience.) Has anyone here used this combination successfully? > > Are there any invaluable features in any of the other editions of > Vista that would make me want to consider them instead? Checking > here: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/ > choose.mspx > I don't see any. > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From timjcollier at mac.com Wed May 2 02:02:25 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed May 2 02:02:40 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Oh, I forgot to mention that I am running Vista Home Edition Premium on my Mac Pro. It's running on it's own hard drive which I created with BootCamp. I runs EXTREMELY well on the Mac Pro. Of course the PIA is that I have to run AV software on it...but such is life. My suggestion, if you can run a Version of Vista, do. I like the OS X- like Vista Interface the only drawback is that Vista only recognizes 2 gig of the 8 gig that I have installed on my Mac Pro. I've heard that the 64 bit version doesn't limit this like the 32 bit version does. But under 2 gig, it still runs fine. At last, I can run Windows Games again. I was a huge Windows gamer before switching to the Mac back in 2001. Tim On May 2, 2007, at 4:44 AM, Tim Collier wrote: > I recently had a MacBook (1.83 gig--sorta on the low end) I > decided to Run Vista Basic Home Edition on it via BootCamp. It > ran very well....even faster (my opinion) than OSX. I then > upgraded to the latest MacBook Pro and decided to run Vista Basic > Home Edition via Parallels, it ran just as well. But now, I > decided I don't want Windows of any type on my MacBook Pro and have > removed it. But the overall performance was quite good. That's my > personal experience. I'm now selling the Install software on > ebay. We'll see how that goes. > > Tim > On May 1, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > >> I've asked this on a couple of Mac discussion lists, with no >> satisfactory answers. I hope to have better luck here. >> >> Putting aside shrink-wrap licensing issues, can anyone tell me if >> Vista Home Basic works with Parallels? (I'm looking for first >> hand experience.) Has anyone here used this combination >> successfully? >> >> Are there any invaluable features in any of the other editions of >> Vista that would make me want to consider them instead? Checking >> here: >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/ >> choose.mspx >> I don't see any. >> >> ___________________________________________ >> Randy B. Singer >> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) >> >> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance >> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html >> ___________________________________________ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From mastermacchief at gmail.com Wed May 2 06:53:18 2007 From: mastermacchief at gmail.com (Peter Apockotos) Date: Wed May 2 06:54:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: You want to get the 64 bit version of Vista if you have any Core 2 Duo or higher processors. Peter Apockotos http://www.apokotos.com On May 2, 2007, at 5:02 AM, Tim Collier wrote: > Oh, I forgot to mention that I am running Vista Home Edition > Premium on my Mac Pro. It's running on it's own hard drive which I > created with BootCamp. I runs EXTREMELY well on the Mac Pro. Of > course the PIA is that I have to run AV software on it...but such > is life. My suggestion, if you can run a Version of Vista, do. I > like the OS X-like Vista Interface the only drawback is that Vista > only recognizes 2 gig of the 8 gig that I have installed on my Mac > Pro. I've heard that the 64 bit version doesn't limit this like > the 32 bit version does. But under 2 gig, it still runs fine. At > last, I can run Windows Games again. I was a huge Windows gamer > before switching to the Mac back in 2001. > > Tim > On May 2, 2007, at 4:44 AM, Tim Collier wrote: > >> I recently had a MacBook (1.83 gig--sorta on the low end) I >> decided to Run Vista Basic Home Edition on it via BootCamp. It >> ran very well....even faster (my opinion) than OSX. I then >> upgraded to the latest MacBook Pro and decided to run Vista Basic >> Home Edition via Parallels, it ran just as well. But now, I >> decided I don't want Windows of any type on my MacBook Pro and >> have removed it. But the overall performance was quite good. >> That's my personal experience. I'm now selling the Install >> software on ebay. We'll see how that goes. >> >> Tim >> On May 1, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: >> >>> I've asked this on a couple of Mac discussion lists, with no >>> satisfactory answers. I hope to have better luck here. >>> >>> Putting aside shrink-wrap licensing issues, can anyone tell me if >>> Vista Home Basic works with Parallels? (I'm looking for first >>> hand experience.) Has anyone here used this combination >>> successfully? >>> >>> Are there any invaluable features in any of the other editions of >>> Vista that would make me want to consider them instead? Checking >>> here: >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/ >>> choose.mspx >>> I don't see any. >>> >>> ___________________________________________ >>> Randy B. Singer >>> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) >>> >>> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance >>> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html >>> ___________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> X4U mailing list >>> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >>> >>> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and >>> random stuff: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 2 07:49:25 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 2 07:49:44 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 2, 2007, at 6:53 AM, Peter Apockotos wrote: > You want to get the 64 bit version of Vista if you have any Core 2 > Duo or higher processors. Why? ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From Robert at Ameeti.net Wed May 2 07:59:27 2007 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Wed May 2 08:00:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: At 9:53 AM -0400, 5/2/07, Peter Apockotos wrote: >You want to get the 64 bit version of Vista if you have any Core 2 >Duo or higher processors. That makes no sense. There is no logic behind this and in fact going this route will cause more headaches than any user needs. It will only worsen the Windows experience. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti Learn not only to find what you like, learn to like what you find. - Anthony J. D'Angelo <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From robertmacleay at mac.com Wed May 2 09:47:04 2007 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Wed May 2 09:47:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Saving colour, brightness & contrast adjustments to quicktime movie In-Reply-To: <20070502020817.23256C98C6F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:44:00 +0100, Stroller wrote: > I've just recorded a short clip of movie with my mobile phone [snip] > With a little adjustment in Quicktime's "A/V Controls" window the > picture quality is adequate for our purposes. Is there any way to > save these settings along with the file? > > Any suggestions? > > Stroller. Yes, if you have QuickTime Pro. You need to use Export instead of Save As. Export as QuickTime Movie and set Options > Video > Filter... > Adjustments to suit. From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 2 12:12:44 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 2 12:13:29 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! Message-ID: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> SheepShaver is a free open source application that will allow you to run old classic Mac OS applications on an Intel-based Macintosh. I would like to bring to everyone's attention that there is currently a full automated installer for SheepShaver available for download from Version Tracker: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32391 This installer includes a copy of the Apple ROM and the Apple OS, as well as full instructions. SheepShaver works well, but it can be a pain to get all of the required components together and install them. This package makes installation dead easy, and it is FREE. I don't expect this installer to be available for long, because it runs afoul of Apple's licensing for redistributing Apple software. So, get it while it's available if you want it. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From macsys at mac.com Wed May 2 12:32:26 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Wed May 2 12:32:42 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> References: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <6FA9227B-BEF9-4499-A097-AF387C7310D3@mac.com> From what I understand it will only run up to OS 9.04! On May 2, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > > SheepShaver is a free open source application that will allow you > to run old classic Mac OS applications on an Intel-based Macintosh. > > I would like to bring to everyone's attention that there is > currently a full automated installer for SheepShaver available for > download from Version Tracker: > > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32391 > > This installer includes a copy of the Apple ROM and the Apple OS, > as well as full instructions. SheepShaver works well, but it can > be a pain to get all of the required components together and > install them. This package makes installation dead easy, and it is > FREE. > > I don't expect this installer to be available for long, because it > runs afoul of Apple's licensing for redistributing Apple software. > So, get it while it's available if you want it. > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 2 12:42:41 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 2 12:42:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <6FA9227B-BEF9-4499-A097-AF387C7310D3@mac.com> References: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> <6FA9227B-BEF9-4499-A097-AF387C7310D3@mac.com> Message-ID: <4E868882-6057-4CCC-8F23-F8B25C103D5A@macattorney.com> On May 2, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > From what I understand it will only run up to OS 9.04! Correct. And the version that I referred you to comes with a version of OS 7. But that should be good enough for most old applications. Later versions of the Mac OS were not free, but if you have a newer version of the Mac OS (e.g. 9.04) go ahead and install it instead. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From mastermacchief at gmail.com Wed May 2 13:06:49 2007 From: mastermacchief at gmail.com (Peter Apockotos) Date: Wed May 2 13:07:01 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: To take advantage of the processors. And possibly more memory with it and 10.5. On May 2, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > On May 2, 2007, at 6:53 AM, Peter Apockotos wrote: > >> You want to get the 64 bit version of Vista if you have any Core 2 >> Duo or higher processors. > > Why? > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From healyzh at aracnet.com Wed May 2 14:03:34 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Wed May 2 14:03:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <4E868882-6057-4CCC-8F23-F8B25C103D5A@macattorney.com> from "Randy B. Singer" at May 02, 2007 12:42:41 PM Message-ID: <200705022103.l42L3Yjw004781@onyx.spiritone.com> Randy B. Singer wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > > > From what I understand it will only run up to OS 9.04! > > Correct. > > And the version that I referred you to comes with a version of OS 7. > But that should be good enough for most old applications. > > Later versions of the Mac OS were not free, but if you have a newer > version of the Mac OS (e.g. 9.04) go ahead and install it instead. It is worth mentioning that this is of interest to those of us with PPC based Mac's as well. I've got a few applications I'd like to run that won't run on newer versions of Mac OS. So far I've only tested it with a recent verison of the classic OS, however, the one application I still use Classic for actually ran better than it did under Classic! This was on a G5 2x2. Zane From timjcollier at mac.com Wed May 2 14:38:05 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed May 2 14:38:14 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 2, 2007, at 9:53 AM, Peter Apockotos wrote: > You want to get the 64 bit version of Vista if you have any Core 2 > Duo or higher processors. > > Peter Apockotos > http://www.apokotos.com > > On May 2, 2007, at 5:02 AM, Tim Collier wrote: > Thanks, Peter, for your suggestion. But after what I paid for the full version and it's running just fine, and because I really don't use it that much, it's just there because I *can* run it....I really don't think I'm going to purchase the 64 bit version. I use a Mac Pro because I like OS X. Windows Vista 64 bit version is not in the cards. Tim -- Tim Collier Mac Pro 2.66 From timjcollier at mac.com Wed May 2 14:47:31 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed May 2 14:47:40 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> References: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <7DB4BFB2-8C30-4898-89C1-2A95E5D54CE1@mac.com> I actually played around with this SheepShaver application on my Mac Pro and I'll be damned it I could get it to work. If you REALLY need to run an OS 9 application just buy a used G3 or G3 iMac (that's what I did). Far fewer headaches. Sometimes these people come out this these "wonderful" programs that claim to do all kinds of wonderful things.....and then it turns out it's more trouble than it's worth. That is my assessment of SheepShaver. More trouble than it's worth. For that matter, if your REALLY still need to run OS 9 applications, why would anybody in their right mind buy an Intel Mac KNOWING that it won't run it? It just doesn't make any sense. Tim On May 2, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > > SheepShaver is a free open source application that will allow you > to run old classic Mac OS applications on an Intel-based Macintosh. > > I would like to bring to everyone's attention that there is > currently a full automated installer for SheepShaver available for > download from Version Tracker: > > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32391 > > This installer includes a copy of the Apple ROM and the Apple OS, > as well as full instructions. SheepShaver works well, but it can > be a pain to get all of the required components together and > install them. This package makes installation dead easy, and it is > FREE. > > I don't expect this installer to be available for long, because it > runs afoul of Apple's licensing for redistributing Apple software. > So, get it while it's available if you want it. > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- Tim Collier Mac Pro 2.66 From Robert at Ameeti.net Wed May 2 14:46:56 2007 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Wed May 2 14:48:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: At 4:06 PM -0400, 5/2/07, Peter Apockotos wrote: >To take advantage of the processors. The standard 32 bit version of Vista will take full advantage of the Core 2 Duo. Choosing to go the route of the 64 bit version will only necessitate the requirement of 64 bit drivers and they are hard to come by and there will be a much longer waiting period for these. Doing the 64 bit Vista offers NO benefits to the typical user. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti The crux... is that the vast majority of the mass of the universe seems to be missing. -- William J. Broad <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From timjcollier at mac.com Wed May 2 14:48:54 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed May 2 14:49:05 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: If you're that desperate, just buy a PC. Tim On May 2, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Peter Apockotos wrote: > To take advantage of the processors. And possibly more memory with > it and 10.5. > > On May 2, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > >> >> On May 2, 2007, at 6:53 AM, Peter Apockotos wrote: >> >>> You want to get the 64 bit version of Vista if you have any Core >>> 2 Duo or higher processors. >> >> Why? >> >> ___________________________________________ >> Randy B. Singer >> Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) >> >> Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance >> http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html >> ___________________________________________ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- Tim Collier Mac Pro 2.66 From neil at laubenthal.net Wed May 2 15:16:06 2007 From: neil at laubenthal.net (Neil Laubenthal) Date: Wed May 2 15:16:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: <3A74A964-4059-4855-A007-D5976F8CDDB2@laubenthal.net> On May 2, 2007, at 10:59, Robert Ameeti wrote: > It will only worsen the Windows experience. Can it really get any worse:-) From healyzh at aracnet.com Wed May 2 15:37:32 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Wed May 2 15:37:39 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <7DB4BFB2-8C30-4898-89C1-2A95E5D54CE1@mac.com> from "Tim Collier" at May 02, 2007 05:47:31 PM Message-ID: <200705022237.l42MbW4O006694@onyx.spiritone.com> Tim Collier wrote: > I actually played around with this SheepShaver application on my Mac > Pro and I'll be damned it I could get it to work. If you REALLY need > to run an OS 9 application just buy a used G3 or G3 iMac (that's what > I did). Far fewer headaches. Sometimes these people come out this > these "wonderful" programs that claim to do all kinds of wonderful > things.....and then it turns out it's more trouble than it's worth. > That is my assessment of SheepShaver. More trouble than it's worth. > For that matter, if your REALLY still need to run OS 9 applications, > why would anybody in their right mind buy an Intel Mac KNOWING that > it won't run it? It just doesn't make any sense. I own a PowerBook 540c, an 8500/180, and a G4/450 in addition to my G5 2x2, so a machine to run my classic applications isn't the problem. The problem is the space to set one up, the power to run (and cool) it, and the time to switch between it and my primary system (the G5). While I have one application that I consider a "Must Have", I also have several others such as the original "Master of Orion" and "Warlords 2" games, that are really nice to have around. I'm hoping that once I have SheepShaver running System 7, I can finally play "Warlords 2" again. As for the "Must Have", well, since I've finally moved from 10.3.9, to 10.4.9, as soon as I can find the time I'll take another look at moving off of it. For those that don't know, or remember, my "Must Have" app is ClarisDraw, and it was one of the main reasons I bought my first Mac. A few months ago I tried a lot of apps people suggested without finding one that I consider to be a good replacement, there were a couple I wanted to try, but couldn't as they required 10.4.x. Zane From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 2 16:28:53 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 2 16:29:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <7DB4BFB2-8C30-4898-89C1-2A95E5D54CE1@mac.com> References: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> <7DB4BFB2-8C30-4898-89C1-2A95E5D54CE1@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 2, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > I actually played around with this SheepShaver application on my > Mac Pro and I'll be damned it I could get it to work. If you > REALLY need to run an OS 9 application just buy a used G3 or G3 > iMac (that's what I did). Far fewer headaches. Sometimes these > people come out this these "wonderful" programs that claim to do > all kinds of wonderful things.....and then it turns out it's more > trouble than it's worth. That is my assessment of SheepShaver. > More trouble than it's worth. FWIW, I've heard from a bunch of people who have used the installer that I referenced to easily install SheepShaver, and they have had no trouble getting it to work and work well. > For that matter, if your REALLY still need to run OS 9 > applications, why would anybody in their right mind buy an Intel > Mac KNOWING that it won't run it? It just doesn't make any sense. It makes plenty of sense. Few people want to have to use two computers to run all of their programs. Some folks want the latest computer with the ability to run the latest software, but they may have one mission-critical application that isn't available for OS X. For instance WordPerfect/Mac. WP/Mac runs great under SheepShaver. In fact, it is included in the download of SheepShaver that I referenced. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 2 16:33:54 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 2 16:33:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> On May 2, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > If you're that desperate, just buy a PC. That really isn't a logical, or helpful, answer, Tim. I happen to have a recent Intel-based Macintosh. I need to run just one Windows application. Running Windows on my Mac using virtualization is a perfectly reasonable and economical solution for this. Purchasing a PC to run one application is not. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From baltwo at san.rr.com Wed May 2 17:53:19 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Wed May 2 17:54:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <20070502232910.45F7ACA1F8C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070502232910.45F7ACA1F8C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 05/02/07, "Zane H. Healy" wrote: > > As for the "Must Have", well, since I've finally moved from 10.3.9, to > 10.4.9, as soon as I can find the time I'll take another look at moving off > of it. For those that don't know, or remember, my "Must Have" app is > ClarisDraw, and it was one of the main reasons I bought my first Mac. A few > months ago I tried a lot of apps people suggested without finding one that I > consider to be a good replacement, there were a couple I wanted to try, but > couldn't as they required 10.4.x. ClarisDraw runs fine in Classic under 10.4.9 and should work with your G5 under Classic. i have all of my house plans, wiring, and landscape/sprinkler systems on ClarisDraw files. For printing purposes, I just open them up, take screenshots of them, and then print w/Preview. FWIW, I haven't found anything better that's OS X native. From Robert at Ameeti.net Wed May 2 17:58:23 2007 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Wed May 2 17:59:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> Message-ID: At 4:33 PM -0700, 5/2/07, Randy B. Singer wrote: >On May 2, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > >>If you're that desperate, just buy a PC. > >That really isn't a logical, or helpful, answer, Tim. > >I happen to have a recent Intel-based Macintosh. I need to run just >one Windows application. Running Windows on my Mac using >virtualization is a perfectly reasonable and economical solution for >this. Purchasing a PC to run one application is not. Home Basic, if it meets your needs, will run perfectly fine using Parallels. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti A guy has to get fresh once in a while so the girl doesn't lose her confidence. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From timjcollier at mac.com Wed May 2 18:10:22 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed May 2 18:10:34 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <8C8E8CAD-5906-457B-BBF6-2A157716FF33@mac.com> You need to look into something like Wine then. This add-on allows you to run Windows based apps without actually having to run Windows. I really found running Windows under Parallels 'wanting'. Now running Windows with Bootcamp runs great. Try doing a bit more searching research on the web. You'll find that there are a lot of other options other than Parallels. But, what I did say at the end, I meant with all sincerity, sometimes just getting an actual PC is the perfect solution (But Never Get Rid of Your Mac!!) The prices for a PC are CHEAP and most (if not all now) will come pre-loaded with Vista. Have you looked at the price of an eMachine? Another thing to remember though, is that sharing files between a Mac and PC (despite what Microsoft says, or Apple) is not simple. With all the crappy AV software you have to run on the PC, it's practically impossible to do. I do speak from experience here. My wife has a laptop PC (now running Vista Business Edition) and since it's protected by Norton, you can't even get past the stupid thing. The only way we've successfully shared files is by burning a CD. OK, I didn't mean for this reply to go on so long, but another example: I have Vista Home Ultimate on the Mac Pro with McAffee AV running on it and IT can't even network with the one running Norton. It's been years since I seriously used a PC but how the average PC user shares files is beyond this simple Mac user. Mac networking is easy, PC networking is not....or at least not to me. Finally, I just mention this to illustrate my point above, before I switched over to the Mac, I was MCSE certified, but I haven't kept up with anything since 2000, so too much has changed. I'll stick to a Mac, thank you. Tim On May 2, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > On May 2, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > >> If you're that desperate, just buy a PC. > > That really isn't a logical, or helpful, answer, Tim. > > I happen to have a recent Intel-based Macintosh. I need to run > just one Windows application. Running Windows on my Mac using > virtualization is a perfectly reasonable and economical solution > for this. Purchasing a PC to run one application is not. > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jessup at san.rr.com Wed May 2 18:18:43 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Wed May 2 18:18:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <8C8E8CAD-5906-457B-BBF6-2A157716FF33@mac.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> <8C8E8CAD-5906-457B-BBF6-2A157716FF33@mac.com> Message-ID: At 9:10 PM -0400 5/2/07, Tim Collier wrote: >I have Vista Home Ultimate on the Mac Pro with McAffee AV running on >it and IT can't even network with the one running Norton. >It's been years since I seriously used a PC but how the average PC >user shares files is beyond this simple Mac user. >Mac networking is easy, PC networking is not....or at least not to me. >Finally, I just mention this to illustrate my point above, before I >switched over to the Mac, I was MCSE certified, but I haven't kept >up with anything since 2000, so too much has changed. I'll stick to >a Mac, thank you. Me, too. I love my Mac. But file sharing between Mac and Windows is easy. You just make a Shared Folder on the PC and use the IP address of a Mac to Map its drive, or whatever. I don't even remember what you do, but it's easy. In about one hour (obviously) knowing nothing, I got a network working all ways, between Macs between Macs and a Windows machine, and even between Windows in Parallels on the Mac to the real Windows machine and to the Macs on the network. I suspect your problem is more the Norton than the PC. Maybe you have it buttoned down one step too tightly? Daly ---------------------- From timjcollier at mac.com Wed May 2 18:23:11 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Wed May 2 18:23:19 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> <8C8E8CAD-5906-457B-BBF6-2A157716FF33@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 2, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Daly Jessup wrote: > At 9:10 PM -0400 5/2/07, Tim Collier wrote: > >> I have Vista Home Ultimate on the Mac Pro with McAffee AV running >> on it and IT can't even network with the one running Norton. >> It's been years since I seriously used a PC but how the average PC >> user shares files is beyond this simple Mac user. >> Mac networking is easy, PC networking is not....or at least not to >> me. >> Finally, I just mention this to illustrate my point above, before >> I switched over to the Mac, I was MCSE certified, but I haven't >> kept up with anything since 2000, so too much has changed. I'll >> stick to a Mac, thank you. > > Me, too. I love my Mac. But file sharing between Mac and Windows is > easy. You just make a Shared Folder on the PC and use the IP > address of a Mac to Map its drive, or whatever. I don't even > remember what you do, but it's easy. In about one hour (obviously) > knowing nothing, I got a network working all ways, between Macs > between Macs and a Windows machine, and even between Windows in > Parallels on the Mac to the real Windows machine and to the Macs on > the network. > > I suspect your problem is more the Norton than the PC. Maybe you > have it buttoned down one step too tightly? > > Daly Daly: I agree totally. I keep telling her that, but God forbid that I should touch her PC! But, back in my Windows networking days, you could share an entire drive EASILY, but that was back before all of these Antivirus travesties. Tim From petez at mac.com Wed May 2 20:05:22 2007 From: petez at mac.com (Pete Zimowski) Date: Wed May 2 20:05:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anybody Got a Joost Beta Invite? In-Reply-To: References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> Message-ID: <7427E6BE-F80A-4141-A9FE-352FD4BB3CC8@mac.com> Hola. Anyone on the list got a Joost beta invite they can spare? Thanks, Pete petez@mac.com From macintoshamg at bellsouth.net Wed May 2 20:36:02 2007 From: macintoshamg at bellsouth.net (allen goforth) Date: Wed May 2 20:36:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <463958A2.6000204@bellsouth.net> Randy B. Singer wrote: > On May 2, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Tim Collier wrote: > >> If you're that desperate, just buy a PC. > > That really isn't a logical, or helpful, answer, Tim. > > I happen to have a recent Intel-based Macintosh. I need to run just > one Windows application. Running Windows on my Mac using > virtualization is a perfectly reasonable and economical solution for > this. Purchasing a PC to run one application is not. > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > How about crossover? From healyzh at aracnet.com Wed May 2 21:04:38 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Wed May 2 21:04:56 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: References: <20070502232910.45F7ACA1F8C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: At 5:53 PM -0700 5/2/07, John Baltutis wrote: >On 05/02/07, "Zane H. Healy" wrote: >> >> As for the "Must Have", well, since I've finally moved from 10.3.9, to >> 10.4.9, as soon as I can find the time I'll take another look at moving off >> of it. For those that don't know, or remember, my "Must Have" app is >> ClarisDraw, and it was one of the main reasons I bought my first Mac. A few >> months ago I tried a lot of apps people suggested without finding one that I >> consider to be a good replacement, there were a couple I wanted to try, but >> couldn't as they required 10.4.x. > >ClarisDraw runs fine in Classic under 10.4.9 and should work with >your G5 under >Classic. i have all of my house plans, wiring, and >landscape/sprinkler systems >on ClarisDraw files. For printing purposes, I just open them up, take >screenshots of them, and then print w/Preview. FWIW, I haven't found anything >better that's OS X native. I'm rather afraid I'll have the same results, and won't be able to find an app that I like as well. I don't typically print from ClarisDraw anymore, I get postscript copies and import the data into Adobe InDesign, but that's just because of what I'm using it for. The problem I was seeing under 10.3.9 was that there were a few glitches in how a couple things were handled with pallets. Nothing that actually stopped me from being able to use it, but it was a little annoying. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From randy at macattorney.com Wed May 2 21:49:54 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed May 2 21:50:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <463958A2.6000204@bellsouth.net> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <0FB6ACA6-FF8D-4EBE-9824-79238F4E6F14@mac.com> <0DC43D45-49F4-44D9-B2FF-589D4D8E1FC8@macattorney.com> <463958A2.6000204@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <14DF95A7-360A-4622-A74A-C61CECA9BAFB@macattorney.com> On May 2, 2007, at 8:36 PM, allen goforth wrote: > How about crossover? Yes, that is a good idea. I've already downloaded it and I will give it a try. But it probably isn't a viable alternative for most folks. Having a look at their Web site, there aren't a lot of applications that are certified to run under Crossover. But since there is a fully working free demo, it certainly is worth giving a try. Thanks! This is a business expense, so I don't consider the cost of purchasing Parallels and Windows to be unreasonable. But I don't want to pay for a more expensive copy of Windows than I have to. i don't like Microsoft enough to throw away money to them for no reason. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From macstonelson at yahoo.com Thu May 3 22:36:48 2007 From: macstonelson at yahoo.com (Da Pen) Date: Thu May 3 22:37:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Wireless Cable Modem Message-ID: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, What are thoughts about the best Cable modem/router wireless for our beloved Macs and an errant PC? We just had Charter Cable hi-speed turned up and now we need a Mac friendly all-in-one wireless cable modem gateway. It must also serve a PC well. We have airport extreme on a 1ghz G4 powerbook, the other PC has windows XP on it. I hope soon to have an intel macbook in my possession. I also have a Cube with airport that will find it's way into this wireless network at some point. Thanks for all thoughts. Dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mac at kapellos.com Fri May 4 04:04:01 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Fri May 4 04:04:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] problems with bootcamp and windows install Message-ID: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> hi i do a little computer support for a landscape architecture firm here in z?rich. they have 2 macpros (2.66 intel xeons, 3gb ram, 250gb hd) and 3 24" imacs (intel core 2 duo) i've been able to install windows xp on 2 of the imacs. on the 3rd, boot camp (or the windows installer) just ejects the windows install cd, hanging the machine. i've tried with different install cds, same result. as for the 2 macpros, both hang when the installer asks me to confirm that i really want to install windows xp. the keyboard doesn't respond, and the "caps lock" light turns on on the keyboard. any thoughts? all machnes are up to date (system, firmware) and the windows install cds are legit'. regards alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: From macsys at mac.com Fri May 4 04:26:08 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Fri May 4 04:26:46 2007 Subject: [X4U] problems with bootcamp and windows install In-Reply-To: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> References: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> Message-ID: The Windows CD's need to be XP Service Pack 2. Also you used the Bootcamp utility to partition the drive correct? On May 4, 2007, at 7:04 AM, alexandre wrote: > hi > > i do a little computer support for a landscape architecture firm > here in z?rich. they have 2 macpros (2.66 intel xeons, 3gb ram, > 250gb hd) and 3 24" imacs (intel core 2 duo) > > i've been able to install windows xp on 2 of the imacs. on the 3rd, > boot camp (or the windows installer) just ejects the windows > install cd, hanging the machine. i've tried with different install > cds, same result. > > as for the 2 macpros, both hang when the installer asks me to > confirm that i really want to install windows xp. the keyboard > doesn't respond, and the "caps lock" light turns on on the keyboard. > > any thoughts? > > all machnes are up to date (system, firmware) and the windows > install cds are legit'. > > regards > > alexandre > :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: > :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From mac at kapellos.com Fri May 4 04:27:55 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Fri May 4 04:28:03 2007 Subject: [X4U] problems with bootcamp and windows install In-Reply-To: References: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> Message-ID: On 4 mai 07, at 13:26, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > The Windows CD's need to be XP Service Pack 2. Also you used the > Bootcamp utility to partition the drive correct? > yes. alexandre From mcclernan1 at comcast.net Fri May 4 06:05:36 2007 From: mcclernan1 at comcast.net (John McClernan) Date: Fri May 4 06:05:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] Wireless Cable Modem In-Reply-To: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2D4B6419-8271-4C6E-9872-826D90D427DA@comcast.net> Dave, I first had a Linksys. It died after 3 years. I now have a Belkin for the past 2 years. It has been fine thus far. Macs and IBM clones have been connected to both. Cheers, John On May 4, 2007, at 1:36 AM, Da Pen wrote: > Hello, > > What are thoughts about the best Cable modem/router > wireless for our beloved Macs and an errant PC? We > just had Charter Cable hi-speed turned up and now we > need a Mac friendly all-in-one wireless cable modem > gateway. It must also serve a PC well. We have > airport extreme on a 1ghz G4 powerbook, the other PC > has windows XP on it. I hope soon to have an intel > macbook in my possession. I also have a Cube with > airport that will find it's way into this wireless > network at some point. > > Thanks for all thoughts. > Dave > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jessup at san.rr.com Fri May 4 06:34:48 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Fri May 4 06:36:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Wireless Cable Modem In-Reply-To: <2D4B6419-8271-4C6E-9872-826D90D427DA@comcast.net> References: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2D4B6419-8271-4C6E-9872-826D90D427DA@comcast.net> Message-ID: At 9:05 AM -0400 5/4/07, John McClernan wrote: >Dave, >I first had a Linksys. It died after 3 years. I now have a Belkin >for the past 2 years. It has been fine thus far. Macs and IBM clones >have been connected to both. And I've been happy with a couple of different Motorola models. At this point, we have one that also gives us phone service, so I can't report on the model of plain modem/router that we had before this one. Anyway, the Motorolas gave us almost no grief over the years. Daly ---------------------- From stan at stangould.com Fri May 4 06:38:01 2007 From: stan at stangould.com (Stan Gould) Date: Fri May 4 06:37:48 2007 Subject: [X4U] Wireless Cable Modem In-Reply-To: <18749196.1178284012206.JavaMail.root@m48> References: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <18749196.1178284012206.JavaMail.root@m48> Message-ID: <463B3739.6010006@stangould.com> I've used Netgear model WGT624 for several years and highly recommend it. It is promoted as a wireless router, but I've disabled the wireless and instead use its four ethernet ports. Very easy to set up and I've used it with macs and a Windows 98 pc. Stan John McClernan wrote: > Dave, > I first had a Linksys. It died after 3 years. I now have a Belkin for > the past 2 years. It has been fine thus far. Macs and IBM clones have > been connected to both. > Cheers, > John > > > On May 4, 2007, at 1:36 AM, Da Pen wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> What are thoughts about the best Cable modem/router >> wireless for our beloved Macs and an errant PC? We >> just had Charter Cable hi-speed turned up and now we >> need a Mac friendly all-in-one wireless cable modem >> gateway. It must also serve a PC well. We have >> airport extreme on a 1ghz G4 powerbook, the other PC >> has windows XP on it. I hope soon to have an intel >> macbook in my possession. I also have a Cube with >> airport that will find it's way into this wireless >> network at some point. >> >> Thanks for all thoughts. >> Dave >> >> ___________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070504/4550e4f3/attachment.html From XPressoBean at mac.com Fri May 4 06:37:52 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Fri May 4 06:38:05 2007 Subject: [X4U] Wireless Cable Modem In-Reply-To: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 5/4/07 12:36 AM, Da Pen wrote: > What are thoughts about the best Cable modem/router > wireless for our beloved Macs and an errant PC? We > just had Charter Cable hi-speed turned up and now we > need a Mac friendly all-in-one wireless cable modem > gateway. It must also serve a PC well. We had Charter Pipeline high-speed cable for five or six years. We always used the wired modem they supplied -- always some version of a Motorola Surfboard -- and used a D-Link router with it. We've had the best luck with a DI-624. Twice during our tenure with Charter, the modem needed replacement to function with an upgrade to services, and Charter did this both times at no cost (because it was their modem). Modem rental was inexpensive -- $3/mo or less -- and we figure we were $$ ahead by renting rather than buying 3 different modems (that said, modems are much less expensive now than they were in Y2K, so it might not work out that way if we were just signing up with them now). peace, Linda From lstnmt at bresnan.net Fri May 4 06:54:08 2007 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Fri May 4 06:54:19 2007 Subject: [X4U] Wireless Cable Modem In-Reply-To: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <624142.73482.qm@web32002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6562C3C9-30DD-4CC5-92D3-49D8A61A64F4@bresnan.net> I use a cable modem and then go to a Netgear wireless access router. The Netgear is a 'G' speed but I'd suggest you get one of the newer 'N' versions. From the Netgear route I go to Netgear gigabit switches for the wired part of my network. I have multiple Macs (10.4) and windows machines (XP) on the network. All of the machines have gigabit cards or came natively with gigbit service. Gigabit cards are inexpensive, however you do need a fairly modern ie. fast, computer to use them to their full potential. The speed bump from 100 to 1000 is noticeable. I'd suggest renting the modem from your provider. I have had a couple of replacements since switching to cable service due to modem failure and changes in service. Jens Jens Selvig ...lost in Montana... lstnmt@bresnan.net On May 3, 2007, at 11:36 PM, Da Pen wrote: > What are thoughts about the best Cable modem/router > wireless for our beloved Macs and an errant PC? We > just had Charter Cable hi-speed turned up and now we > need a Mac friendly all-in-one wireless cable modem > gateway. It must also serve a PC well. We have > airport extreme on a 1ghz G4 powerbook, the other PC > has windows XP on it. I hope soon to have an intel > macbook in my possession. I also have a Cube with > airport that will find it's way into this wireless > network at some point. From healyzh at aracnet.com Fri May 4 11:50:43 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Fri May 4 11:50:52 2007 Subject: [X4U] RAM usage Message-ID: <200705041850.l44IoigU018077@onyx.spiritone.com> A couple years ago someone on this recommended a tool for determining if you need to add more RAM to your Mac or not, and I think it might have even offered some advice on how much to add. Does this sound familiar to anyone? On my G5 2x2 that I just upgraded last weekend from 10.3.9 to 10.4.9, I have 3.5GB RAM. There are typically two other users logged in besides myself, but at most they typically have Safari open. I've seen Virtual Memory usage as high as 14GB with the system having only been up for a few days, and not many applications running on my side. While the memory problems on 10.4.9 with 3.5GB aren't as severe as they were with 10.4 and only 1.5GB two years ago, they're still bad enough I'm thinking about adding another 2GB RAM. I realize I could help fix the problem by not having so many things running at once, however, that would mean drastically altering the method in which I use the system. Zane From nickscalise at cox.net Fri May 4 12:46:29 2007 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Fri May 4 12:46:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] RAM usage Message-ID: <7801600.1178307989691.JavaMail.root@centrmwml09> Could it be "Do I need more memory?" ---- "Zane H. Healy" wrote: > > A couple years ago someone on this recommended a tool for determining if you > need to add more RAM to your Mac or not, and I think it might have even > offered some advice on how much to add. Does this sound familiar to anyone? > > On my G5 2x2 that I just upgraded last weekend from 10.3.9 to 10.4.9, I have > 3.5GB RAM. There are typically two other users logged in besides myself, > but at most they typically have Safari open. I've seen Virtual Memory usage > as high as 14GB with the system having only been up for a few days, and not > many applications running on my side. While the memory problems on 10.4.9 > with 3.5GB aren't as severe as they were with 10.4 and only 1.5GB two years > ago, they're still bad enough I'm thinking about adding another 2GB RAM. > > I realize I could help fix the problem by not having so many things running > at once, however, that would mean drastically altering the method in which I > use the system. > > Zane > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From macmonster at myrealbox.com Fri May 4 14:25:39 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Fri May 4 14:25:57 2007 Subject: [X4U] problems with bootcamp and windows install In-Reply-To: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> References: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> Message-ID: <32121756-252F-4009-924E-D11A246D4E6B@myrealbox.com> On 4 May 2007, at 12:04, alexandre wrote: > ... > i've been able to install windows xp on 2 of the imacs. on the 3rd, > boot camp (or the windows installer) just ejects the windows > install cd, hanging the machine. i've tried with different install > cds, same result. Is it possible there are firmware updates to be applied to the 3rd iMac? I would be inclined to check this and then run Bootcamp's first stage again. I believe the first stage changes some information either in EFI or the boot sector - you may find that deleting the Windows partition & recreating it performs this "magic". > as for the 2 macpros, both hang when the installer asks me to > confirm that i really want to install windows xp. the keyboard > doesn't respond, and the "caps lock" light turns on on the keyboard. Not using bluetooth keyboards, by any chance, are you? In any case, generic USB keyboards can be bought for very few pounds - it might be worth a go trying to install with one of those, just in case they make a difference. Finally, for both the 3rd imac and for the MacPros you should unplug as much additional hardware as possible during the bootcamp process. Any additional USB devices should be disconnected and PCI cards removed from the Pros. Stroller. From mac at kapellos.com Fri May 4 15:06:56 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Fri May 4 15:07:13 2007 Subject: [X4U] problems with bootcamp and windows install In-Reply-To: <32121756-252F-4009-924E-D11A246D4E6B@myrealbox.com> References: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> <32121756-252F-4009-924E-D11A246D4E6B@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <7D1E78DB-A319-421A-B951-F179E304D2C8@kapellos.com> On 4 mai 07, at 23:25, Stroller wrote: > > On 4 May 2007, at 12:04, alexandre wrote: >> ... >> i've been able to install windows xp on 2 of the imacs. on the >> 3rd, boot camp (or the windows installer) just ejects the windows >> install cd, hanging the machine. i've tried with different install >> cds, same result. > > Is it possible there are firmware updates to be applied to the 3rd > iMac? everything is up to date. > > I would be inclined to check this and then run Bootcamp's first > stage again. I believe the first stage changes some information > either in EFI or the boot sector - you may find that deleting the > Windows partition & recreating it performs this "magic". i've partitioned, de-partitioned and then re-partitioned and am still getting the problems? > >> as for the 2 macpros, both hang when the installer asks me to >> confirm that i really want to install windows xp. the keyboard >> doesn't respond, and the "caps lock" light turns on on the keyboard. > > Not using bluetooth keyboards, by any chance, are you? In any case, > generic USB keyboards can be bought for very few pounds - it might > be worth a go trying to install with one of those, just in case > they make a difference. no, no BT keyboards. i've switched keyboards too, all apple though. > > Finally, for both the 3rd imac and for the MacPros you should > unplug as much additional hardware as possible during the bootcamp > process. Any additional USB devices should be disconnected and PCI > cards removed from the Pros. > i'll have to check for usb devices (scanners, etc). no pci cards are connected. thanks stroller! alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: From michaelelliott at mac.com Fri May 4 16:44:30 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Fri May 4 16:45:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] MacOS X Mail and AOL...retaining local "sent mail"? Message-ID: I have recently started using MacOS X Mail with AOL's IMAP server to access my AOL mail account of 14 years :-) It has worked great, but I've recently noticed that my "sent mail" folder is only keeping e-mails for 1 month, and then they're being removed. Now, the regular AOL service removes sent mail after a month or so in their own client, but I thought Mail could be set to keep the sent mail indefinitely until I choose to delete it. Mailbox Behaviors in Mail for the AOL account are set for "Store sent messages on the server" as checked, with "never" under "Delete messages when..." Should I un-check the "store sent messages on the server" setting? I also access my e-mail from both my home iMac and my MacBook. What I see is the same in both situations: same inbox, sent mail, etc. Is that a natural function of IMAP, and is there still a way that my "sent" mail will be synchronized between the two? Thanks :-) M From michaelelliott at mac.com Fri May 4 21:13:32 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Fri May 4 21:13:44 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> References: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <5A2AEFF6-B1AB-4838-8661-E3281B458EA0@mac.com> Looks like your link is already broken :-( Michael On May 2, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > SheepShaver is a free open source application that will allow you > to run old classic Mac OS applications on an Intel-based Macintosh. > > I would like to bring to everyone's attention that there is > currently a full automated installer for SheepShaver available for > download from Version Tracker: > > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32391 > > This installer includes a copy of the Apple ROM and the Apple OS, > as well as full instructions. SheepShaver works well, but it can > be a pain to get all of the required components together and > install them. This package makes installation dead easy, and it is > FREE. > > I don't expect this installer to be available for long, because it > runs afoul of Apple's licensing for redistributing Apple software. > So, get it while it's available if you want it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070504/f3c369ed/attachment.html From randy at macattorney.com Fri May 4 23:18:09 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Fri May 4 23:18:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] Run Classic OS Apps On Intel-Macs! In-Reply-To: <5A2AEFF6-B1AB-4838-8661-E3281B458EA0@mac.com> References: <2325C90A-BE8D-4E53-AD56-F442A1313548@macattorney.com> <5A2AEFF6-B1AB-4838-8661-E3281B458EA0@mac.com> Message-ID: <4A31D5DE-2D81-4BDB-BADD-566CE3EEC8A9@macattorney.com> On May 4, 2007, at 9:13 PM, Michael Elliott wrote: > Looks like your link is already broken :-( The all-in-one installer package is no longer available. (And please don't write to ask me for a copy, I don't have one.) Folks who want to use SheepShaver will have to download it from the SheepShaver home page (it is free): http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/sheepshaver/ And then they will have to pick up an old classic copy of the Mac OS from Apple: http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html The Mac ROM is just a file in later versions of OS 8 or 9. You can find it in the System Folder. You need a copy of Mac OS 8 or 9, or a Mac with a copy of OS 8 or 9 (including a copy of OS X's Restore disk, which has OS 9 on it), to get a copy of the Mac ROM file. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From timjcollier at mac.com Sat May 5 02:19:38 2007 From: timjcollier at mac.com (Tim Collier) Date: Sat May 5 02:19:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] Possibly OT: Static IP, what have you done for me lately? Message-ID: <74BEEC20-3468-47DD-ABAC-C80B3E9815D8@mac.com> Dear List Members: I'm pretty certain that this is off-topic but other might learn from your responses (especially me). I'll start off by telling you why we have a static IP now. We've had Comcast as our ISP for several years now and they go down occasionally. Over the past week, they were down more than up and I was getting frustrated. My wife and I talked it over and decided that we'd also sign up for BellSouth DSL. The price was good and was not going to be a real burden just so if one goes down we still have the other. OK, that said, part of BellSouth's package includes a Static IP address, it sounded like a good idea and I opted for it (it was free with my plan). Now, we get to my question. What can I actually do with it? Can I run a website in my home? Can I use some of those obscure protocols to connect to the house from outside? Can any of you suggest other ways I might use this? I'm at the point where I'm saying "cool, I have a static IP", but what can I do with it? Tim From macmonster at myrealbox.com Sat May 5 03:33:06 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Sat May 5 03:33:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] problems with bootcamp and windows install In-Reply-To: <7D1E78DB-A319-421A-B951-F179E304D2C8@kapellos.com> References: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> <32121756-252F-4009-924E-D11A246D4E6B@myrealbox.com> <7D1E78DB-A319-421A-B951-F179E304D2C8@kapellos.com> Message-ID: On 4 May 2007, at 23:06, alexandre wrote: >>> ... >>> as for the 2 macpros, both hang when the installer asks me to >>> confirm that i really want to install windows xp. the keyboard >>> doesn't respond, and the "caps lock" light turns on on the keyboard. >> >> Not using bluetooth keyboards, by any chance, are you? In any >> case, generic USB keyboards can be bought for very few pounds - it >> might be worth a go trying to install with one of those, just in >> case they make a difference. > > no, no BT keyboards. i've switched keyboards too, all apple though. Additionally you should check that the mouse & keyboard are connected the "correct" way. One was unable to install OS X on my MDD G4, for instance, using a Logitech Trackball instead of the supplied Apple mouse. In a technote Apple stated that the keyboard should be connected to one of the rear USB ports, the mouse to the USB port on the keyboard. I would've expected any rear USB port to be fine for your purposes, but DO ensure no USB hubs are connected. Since you have Windows installed on the drives of 2 of the iMacs, I might be inclined to "cheat" and image the drive to the third using `dd` or similar. Chase me if you do this & get Windows file-sharing problems in the future - there is an easy fix but I'd need to look it up. Finally: you are using the latest version of Bootcamp, aren't you? Stroller. From macmonster at myrealbox.com Sat May 5 03:48:35 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Sat May 5 03:49:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] MacOS X Mail and AOL...retaining local "sent mail"? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07EE8750-0A0A-498F-B5DE-BBFDD923CE9B@myrealbox.com> On 5 May 2007, at 00:44, Michael Elliott wrote: > I also access my e-mail from both my home iMac and my MacBook. > What I see is the same in both situations: same inbox, sent mail, > etc. Is that a natural function of IMAP, and is there still a way > that my "sent" mail will be synchronized between the two? Yes, this is the joy of IMAP. The "master copy" of the messages are stored on the server, and IMAP synchronises your machine to its status. Consequently you always see the same unified view of your mail corpus, whether you access it via webmail or from regular clients on different machines. > ... I've recently noticed that my "sent mail" folder is only > keeping e-mails for 1 month, and then they're being removed. Now, > the regular AOL service removes sent mail after a month or so in > their own client, but I thought Mail could be set to keep the sent > mail indefinitely until I choose to delete it AOL are removing the copy from their servers - the IMAP account in Mail.app synchronises to reflect this & the older messages are deleted. :( > Mailbox Behaviors in Mail for the AOL account are set for "Store > sent messages on the server" as checked, with "never" under "Delete > messages when..." > > Should I un-check the "store sent messages on the server" setting? That's the most obvious solution - messages stored on your Mac can't be deleted by AOL. I can't see a way to synchronise sent items between your two Macs without using the IMAP Sent folder, tho'. Try making a "Sent2" folder on the server - AOLs scripts shouldn't delete older items from a folder that's named differently - then highlight it and in the Maibox menu "Use this mailbox for ... " "Sent". You may even be able to delete the old Sent Items folder. Are you sure that there isn't an option in AOL's software suite not to delete older sent messages? If none of these options work you might be able to write a Bash script or Automator action to one-way sync between IMAP & local folders, but I can think of disadvantages to this method. Stroller. From neil at laubenthal.net Sat May 5 04:47:25 2007 From: neil at laubenthal.net (Neil Laubenthal) Date: Sat May 5 04:47:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] Possibly OT: Static IP, what have you done for me lately? In-Reply-To: <74BEEC20-3468-47DD-ABAC-C80B3E9815D8@mac.com> References: <74BEEC20-3468-47DD-ABAC-C80B3E9815D8@mac.com> Message-ID: Depends on what the terms of service with BellSouth are. Speakeasy for instance (my DSL provider) has no restrictions . . . so I run my own mail and web servers as well as connect via ssh to either my IP or the domain that resolves to my IP. Usually though . . . phone company DSL lines TOS ban servers . . . and they usually back things up by blocking typical protocols. You can get around blocks by using some obscure ports of course . . . but their traffic logs will show the traffic and if they wanted to they can come back (assuming they bother to examine their logs, which may not happen unless there's a bandwidth hog or issue with something else) and cancel your service over it. So . . . check your TOS and see. Of course . . .even with a dynamic IP you can still run all of these servers . . . you simply use a service like dyndns.org to resolve your domain to your dynamically changing IP from the ISP. Most current routers have a dyndns client built in which reports your IP to dyndns.org whenever it changes so that tim.net or whatever domain you register will always point to your IP even though it's subject to change. Once that is done . . . servers still work. If your router doesn't have a built in client . . . there is a Mac client that gets your external IP from the router and then reports it back to dyndns.org. Obscure protocols . . . sure, those work just like the mail and web protocols . . . you can point ssh (port 22) or timbuktu (487 I think) to your home domain or IP (either static or DHCP) and they will connect just fine. On May 5, 2007, at 05:19, Tim Collier wrote: > Dear List Members: > > I'm pretty certain that this is off-topic but other might learn > from your responses (especially me). I'll start off by telling you > why we have a static IP now. We've had Comcast as our ISP for > several years now and they go down occasionally. Over the past > week, they were down more than up and I was getting frustrated. My > wife and I talked it over and decided that we'd also sign up for > BellSouth DSL. The price was good and was not going to be a real > burden just so if one goes down we still have the other. OK, that > said, part of BellSouth's package includes a Static IP address, it > sounded like a good idea and I opted for it (it was free with my > plan). > Now, we get to my question. What can I actually do with it? Can I > run a website in my home? Can I use some of those obscure > protocols to connect to the house from outside? Can any of you > suggest other ways I might use this? > I'm at the point where I'm saying "cool, I have a static IP", but > what can I do with it? > > Tim > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Sat May 5 10:58:29 2007 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Sat May 5 10:58:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] Possibly OT: Static IP, what have you done for me lately? In-Reply-To: <20070505103347.C28F5CBC1B8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070505103347.C28F5CBC1B8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Tim Collier >I'm pretty certain that this is off-topic but other might learn from >your responses (especially me). I'll start off by telling you why we >have a static IP now. We've had Comcast as our ISP for several years >now and they go down occasionally. Over the past week, they were >down more than up and I was getting frustrated. My wife and I talked >it over and decided that we'd also sign up for BellSouth DSL. The >price was good and was not going to be a real burden just so if one >goes down we still have the other. OK, that said, part of >BellSouth's package includes a Static IP address, it sounded like a >good idea and I opted for it (it was free with my plan). >Now, we get to my question. What can I actually do with it? Can I >run a website in my home? Can I use some of those obscure protocols >to connect to the house from outside? Can any of you suggest other >ways I might use this? >I'm at the point where I'm saying "cool, I have a static IP", but >what can I do with it? You can point one or more domain names at it to help you run services available from outside more easily. One advantage that is rarely mentioned is that it never times out. One of the disadvantages of a variable IP is that some ISPs break your service while they allocate a new one, and that will break large downloads. A few years back someone was complaining that their IP was changed so often that they couldn't download a combo updater. Doubt that there are any that bad now. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. Chair of HPUX SysAdmin SIG of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From healyzh at aracnet.com Sat May 5 17:27:33 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Sat May 5 17:27:46 2007 Subject: [X4U] RAM usage In-Reply-To: <200705041850.l44IoigU018077@onyx.spiritone.com> References: <200705041850.l44IoigU018077@onyx.spiritone.com> Message-ID: At 11:50 AM -0700 5/4/07, Zane H. Healy wrote: >A couple years ago someone on this recommended a tool for determining if you >need to add more RAM to your Mac or not, and I think it might have even >offered some advice on how much to add. Does this sound familiar to anyone? OK, after a bunch of looking the application is "Do I need more memory?", and while it only claims to support 10.0, 10.1, and 10.2, it seems to be working on 10.4.9. And after some playing I just went and bought another 2GB RAM Kit, which will take me up to 5.5GB. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From atlynch at mac.com Sun May 6 09:26:09 2007 From: atlynch at mac.com (Lynch Andrew) Date: Sun May 6 09:26:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC Message-ID: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> Hi Folks, I cannot seem to VNC or ssh to my Intel Mac mini from my powerpc macs. This used to work. I can ssh from the mini to itself, and I can ssh from my G5 tower to my G4 laptop. I can also run VNC amongst the powerpc systems. I started sshd -d on the min, and it is not reporting any attempt to connect. I disabled all firewalls.... Any Clues? -Drew Andrew Lynch atlynch@mac.com From nickscalise at cox.net Sun May 6 10:46:50 2007 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Sun May 6 10:46:57 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> References: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> Message-ID: <169E8623-5FE6-4037-A6A2-C8E3B4949A06@cox.net> On May 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Lynch Andrew wrote: > Hi Folks, > I cannot seem to VNC or ssh to my Intel Mac mini from my powerpc > macs. This used to work. I can ssh from the mini to itself, and I > can ssh from my G5 tower to my G4 laptop. I can also run VNC > amongst the powerpc systems. I started sshd -d on the min, and it > is not reporting any attempt to connect. I disabled all firewalls.... Have you made any firewall changes? -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From atlynch at mac.com Sun May 6 12:12:52 2007 From: atlynch at mac.com (Lynch Andrew) Date: Sun May 6 12:13:01 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <169E8623-5FE6-4037-A6A2-C8E3B4949A06@cox.net> References: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> <169E8623-5FE6-4037-A6A2-C8E3B4949A06@cox.net> Message-ID: <9976CC7D-115D-4B15-A12D-2856BE01FA26@mac.com> Hi Nick, I disabled them all. I did get a new router, a WRT54G, but all of this is on the LAN side of the router... On May 6, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: > On May 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Lynch Andrew wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> I cannot seem to VNC or ssh to my Intel Mac mini from my powerpc >> macs. This used to work. I can ssh from the mini to itself, and >> I can ssh from my G5 tower to my G4 laptop. I can also run VNC >> amongst the powerpc systems. I started sshd -d on the min, and it >> is not reporting any attempt to connect. I disabled all >> firewalls.... > > Have you made any firewall changes? > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 Andrew Lynch atlynch@mac.com From nickscalise at cox.net Sun May 6 12:38:14 2007 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Sun May 6 12:38:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <9976CC7D-115D-4B15-A12D-2856BE01FA26@mac.com> References: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> <169E8623-5FE6-4037-A6A2-C8E3B4949A06@cox.net> <9976CC7D-115D-4B15-A12D-2856BE01FA26@mac.com> Message-ID: <08B07ABD-4304-4D64-91CD-2DA8153BE8F2@cox.net> On May 6, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Lynch Andrew wrote: > On May 6, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: > >> On May 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Lynch Andrew wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks, >>> I cannot seem to VNC or ssh to my Intel Mac mini from my >>> powerpc macs. This used to work. I can ssh from the mini to >>> itself, and I can ssh from my G5 tower to my G4 laptop. I can >>> also run VNC amongst the powerpc systems. I started sshd -d on >>> the min, and it is not reporting any attempt to connect. I >>> disabled all firewalls.... >> >> Have you made any firewall changes? > > I disabled them all. I did get a new router, a WRT54G, but all of > this is on the LAN side of the router... When you say disabled, what do you mean? Did you turn off the firewall, or did you disable the open holes in the firewall? For that matter, how do you disable the open holes with out turning off the services that require the firewall holes? -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From michaelelliott at mac.com Sun May 6 15:04:38 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sun May 6 15:05:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> References: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> Message-ID: <631EDA98-E93E-4E04-990E-DF06EB714F9A@mac.com> Andrew, I know that this is obvious, but you are sure that the "Remote Login" service is on under the Sharing-->services panel? On May 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Lynch Andrew wrote: > Hi Folks, > I cannot seem to VNC or ssh to my Intel Mac mini from my powerpc > macs. This used to work. I can ssh from the mini to itself, and I > can ssh from my G5 tower to my G4 laptop. I can also run VNC > amongst the powerpc systems. I started sshd -d on the min, and it > is not reporting any attempt to connect. I disabled all firewalls.... > > Any Clues? > > -Drew > > Andrew Lynch > atlynch@mac.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From healyzh at aracnet.com Sun May 6 16:46:13 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Sun May 6 16:46:23 2007 Subject: [X4U] Two Mac's Message-ID: Due to a seriously unexpected bit of fortune, we now have a second Mac. Does anyone have any advice on using a laptop in conjunction with a desktop? I just turned "Personal File Sharing" on. At this point we expect the laptop will primarily be used for surfing the net, email, and word processing. Looks like I'll be trying to get Sheepshaver running a couple things a lot sooner than I expected. :^) Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From jessup at san.rr.com Sun May 6 17:31:39 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Sun May 6 17:37:34 2007 Subject: [X4U] Two Mac's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 4:46 PM -0700 5/6/07, Zane H. Healy wrote: >Due to a seriously unexpected bit of fortune, we now have a second >Mac. Does anyone have any advice on using a laptop in conjunction >with a desktop? I just turned "Personal File Sharing" on. At this >point we expect the laptop will primarily be used for surfing the >net, email, and word processing. > >Looks like I'll be trying to get Sheepshaver running a couple things >a lot sooner than I expected. :^) What kind of advice about laptop and desktop? You mean about doing file sharing? Or screen sharing? Or synchronizing certain files? Or what sort of thing are you thinking of? I think the advice would depend heavily on what you want the second computer for. For instance, if it is to be used for email for a different user, you wouldn't be thinking of synchronizing between them. So... more details, please. And congratulations on the good luck! Daly ---------------------- From winstonworks at sympatico.ca Sun May 6 18:10:41 2007 From: winstonworks at sympatico.ca (Winston MacKelvie) Date: Sun May 6 18:11:36 2007 Subject: [X4U] Two Mac's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3FA1AFBF-F980-4ABB-A6DB-065F2A8AAA5D@sympatico.ca> I use my PB laptop near where I read (good natural lighting) looking for business leads or suppliers or other info. Then I email the url to myself and then into the iMac. Also use it for iMac backup via Airport and sometimes files, notes, ideas via Bluetooth to the iMac. Winston From healyzh at aracnet.com Sun May 6 18:32:31 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Sun May 6 18:32:41 2007 Subject: [X4U] Two Mac's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:31 PM -0700 5/6/07, Daly Jessup wrote: >At 4:46 PM -0700 5/6/07, Zane H. Healy wrote: >>Due to a seriously unexpected bit of fortune, we now have a second >>Mac. Does anyone have any advice on using a laptop in conjunction >>with a desktop? I just turned "Personal File Sharing" on. At this >>point we expect the laptop will primarily be used for surfing the >>net, email, and word processing. >> >>Looks like I'll be trying to get Sheepshaver running a couple >>things a lot sooner than I expected. :^) > >What kind of advice about laptop and desktop? You mean about doing >file sharing? Or screen sharing? Or synchronizing certain files? Or >what sort of thing are you thinking of? I think the advice would >depend heavily on what you want the second computer for. For >instance, if it is to be used for email for a different user, you >wouldn't be thinking of synchronizing between them. So... more >details, please. Part of the problem is I don't know what I mean! :^) I've already taken file sharing into account. I'd not thought about file synchronization however, that would be the sort of thing I'd be interested in. We expect my wife and oldest child to be the primary users, however, I'm also interested in using it when I'm writing, as it would allow me to sit someplace with more room, unlike this computer desk! :^) At different times, either of them will still be using the G5 2x2. My wife has already mentioned iTunes (I just turned on sharing for our private network), and I assume she'll also want to access our iPhoto library. Actually it looks like iLife '06 supports sharing an iPhoto library. :^) Is there a way to synchronize email between two systems? How about a folder of files? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From randy at macattorney.com Sun May 6 22:56:21 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Sun May 6 22:56:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] Two Mac's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A814D15-5F51-4E28-9BE7-D6C8D51ECF33@macattorney.com> On May 6, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > I'd not thought about file synchronization however, that would be > the sort of thing I'd be interested in. Check out: Synchronize! X Plus $30 http://www.qdea.com/pages/pages-syncx/syncx1.html SyncTogether $50 http://www.markspace.com/synctogether.php Mac Sync (comes with Apple's .Mac service) http://www.apple.com/dotmac/ There are two excellent ways (that is, easy and quick) to transfer files between your laptop and your desktop. The first is via FireWire target disk mode. This allows you to connect the two computers together with a FireWire cable and transfer the files as if you were transfering from one drive to another (simple drag and drop). Zero configuration is required, and FireWire is much faster than 10Base-T Ethernet.: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583 This cable will make the transfer a lot easier due to its length, and it is reasonably priced compared to local conputer stores: 10-foot 6-pin to 6-pin FireWire cable for $4: http://www.firefold.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=FW-66-10-BLK The other way to transfer files between your laptop and your desktop is via a pen (flash) drive. Flash drives have more or less taken the place of the floppy. You can get a flash drive in a bunch of different capacities, but I find that a 1GB flash drive is perfect for transferring files. You can get a 1GB flash drive quite cheaply now. Kingston DataTraveler 1GB Hi-Speed USB2.0 Flash Drive Model DTI/1GB ITEM CODE: 122-293-001 $12 with free shipping! ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From jessup at san.rr.com Mon May 7 04:19:28 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Mon May 7 04:19:03 2007 Subject: [X4U] Two Mac's In-Reply-To: <4A814D15-5F51-4E28-9BE7-D6C8D51ECF33@macattorney.com> References: <4A814D15-5F51-4E28-9BE7-D6C8D51ECF33@macattorney.com> Message-ID: At 10:56 PM -0700 5/6/07, Randy B. Singer wrote: >On May 6, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >>I'd not thought about file synchronization however, that would be >>the sort of thing I'd be interested in. In addition to the synchronizing programs Randy recommended, I have found FolderSync useful. It is simple (and free): Daly ---------------------- From vallwardt at mac.com Mon May 7 06:41:19 2007 From: vallwardt at mac.com (Vicki Allwardt) Date: Mon May 7 06:41:36 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Two Mac's Message-ID: <15E5CDC2-381B-4EF0-889D-A9E1EAE72000@mac.com> I have a wireless router that allows me to use the iBook anywhere, it has an Airport card. With this and my network, I can call up the other computer and drag and drop any files I want straight into folders or desktop. I keep mail synchronized with my dotmac account. The iBook is so handy. It is only a little 12" G3 but works like a trouper! We take it on trips to download pics into, check email. I would love a new MacBook, but can't justify it yet. I used to use SychronizePro, but they are out of commission. Vicki Allwardt vallwardt@mac.com ________________________ On May 6, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: Part of the problem is I don't know what I mean! :^) I've already taken file sharing into account. I'd not thought about file synchronization however, that would be the sort of thing I'd be interested in. We expect my wife and oldest child to be the primary users, however, I'm also interested in using it when I'm writing, as it would allow me to sit someplace with more room, unlike this computer desk! :^) At different times, either of them will still be using the G5 2x2. My wife has already mentioned iTunes (I just turned on sharing for our private network), and I assume she'll also want to access our iPhoto library. Actually it looks like iLife '06 supports sharing an iPhoto library. :^) Is there a way to synchronize email between two systems? How about a folder of files? Zane Vicki Allwardt vallwardt@mac.com From mac at kapellos.com Mon May 7 06:59:42 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Mon May 7 06:59:56 2007 Subject: [X4U] problems with bootcamp and windows install In-Reply-To: References: <026B9B7B-F58D-42BA-9478-9A5C0CE564FA@kapellos.com> <32121756-252F-4009-924E-D11A246D4E6B@myrealbox.com> <7D1E78DB-A319-421A-B951-F179E304D2C8@kapellos.com> Message-ID: On 5 mai 07, at 12:33, Stroller wrote: > > On 4 May 2007, at 23:06, alexandre wrote: >>>> ... >>>> as for the 2 macpros, both hang when the installer asks me to >>>> confirm that i really want to install windows xp. the keyboard >>>> doesn't respond, and the "caps lock" light turns on on the >>>> keyboard. >>> >>> Not using bluetooth keyboards, by any chance, are you? In any >>> case, generic USB keyboards can be bought for very few pounds - >>> it might be worth a go trying to install with one of those, just >>> in case they make a difference. >> >> no, no BT keyboards. i've switched keyboards too, all apple though. > > Additionally you should check that the mouse & keyboard are > connected the "correct" way. > > One was unable to install OS X on my MDD G4, for instance, using a > Logitech Trackball instead of the supplied Apple mouse. In a > technote Apple stated that the keyboard should be connected to one > of the rear USB ports, the mouse to the USB port on the keyboard. > > I would've expected any rear USB port to be fine for your purposes, > but DO ensure no USB hubs are connected. > > Since you have Windows installed on the drives of 2 of the iMacs, I > might be inclined to "cheat" and image the drive to the third using > `dd` or similar. Chase me if you do this & get Windows file-sharing > problems in the future - there is an easy fix but I'd need to look > it up. > > Finally: you are using the latest version of Bootcamp, aren't you? > stroller, i'll double check all of this as soon as i can. yes, i am using the latest version of bootcamp. many thanks alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: From healyzh at aracnet.com Mon May 7 09:42:48 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Mon May 7 09:43:05 2007 Subject: [X4U] Two Mac's In-Reply-To: <4A814D15-5F51-4E28-9BE7-D6C8D51ECF33@macattorney.com> References: <4A814D15-5F51-4E28-9BE7-D6C8D51ECF33@macattorney.com> Message-ID: >On May 6, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >>I'd not thought about file synchronization however, that would be >>the sort of thing I'd be interested in. > >Check out: > >Synchronize! X Plus $30 >http://www.qdea.com/pages/pages-syncx/syncx1.html > >SyncTogether $50 >http://www.markspace.com/synctogether.php > >Mac Sync (comes with Apple's .Mac service) >http://www.apple.com/dotmac/ I'll take a look at the FolderSync Daly recommends. Though I might also go with 'rsync' from the command line, I can write a quick script to automate things. I've got zero budget for this. So unfortunately your suggestions have their drawbacks. >The first is via FireWire target disk mode. This allows you to >connect the two computers together with a FireWire cable and >transfer the files as if you were transfering from one drive to >another (simple drag and drop). Zero configuration is required, and >FireWire is much faster than 10Base-T Ethernet.: >http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583 I prefer the ease of 100Mbit ethernet, we don't use wireless, and everything is plugged in to a nice 10/100 switch. With the addition of this computer I'll likely be looking into adding a GigE switch at some point in the future. Or at least I will if I ever figure out how to afford a GigE card for my OpenVMS system (actually a Fibre-to-UTP converter, and a fibre card for that system looks cheapest). >The other way to transfer files between your laptop and your desktop >is via a pen (flash) drive. Flash drives have more or less taken >the place of the floppy. You can get a flash drive in a bunch of >different capacities, but I find that a 1GB flash drive is perfect >for transferring files. You can get a 1GB flash drive quite cheaply >now. I've got a 2GB flash drive that actually has a backup copy of my writing project on it. So this sounds like the perfect solution to me, especially if I throw together a script or two to sync it. My next problem is a subject for a new email later when I have time... Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From ralph at avatarbiz.com Mon May 7 11:35:10 2007 From: ralph at avatarbiz.com (Ralph) Date: Mon May 7 11:35:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] Beach Ball Message-ID: I have a "dome base" iMac that's developed a bad case of beach balls. The cursor appears most often when I choose Print... from almost any application. It also often comes up when I choose File > Open... In addition, the machine seems sluggish generally. Here's the configuration: iMac G4 800 MHz 768 MB RAM (maxed out) 18.24 GB free on 60 GB hard drive OS X 10.4.9 with latest update Disk Utility sees no problems. Suggestions? Ralph Jones From atlynch at mac.com Mon May 7 11:56:59 2007 From: atlynch at mac.com (Lynch Andrew) Date: Mon May 7 11:57:10 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <631EDA98-E93E-4E04-990E-DF06EB714F9A@mac.com> References: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> <631EDA98-E93E-4E04-990E-DF06EB714F9A@mac.com> Message-ID: Not sure which of these are getting through. I'm getting a lot of "waiting for moderator approval messages" I've disabled all the firewalls completely for testing. I have checked Remote Login... Cheers, Drew On May 6, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Michael Elliott wrote: > Andrew, > > I know that this is obvious, but you are sure that the "Remote > Login" service is on under the Sharing-->services panel? > > > On May 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Lynch Andrew wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> I cannot seem to VNC or ssh to my Intel Mac mini from my powerpc >> macs. This used to work. I can ssh from the mini to itself, and >> I can ssh from my G5 tower to my G4 laptop. I can also run VNC >> amongst the powerpc systems. I started sshd -d on the min, and it >> is not reporting any attempt to connect. I disabled all >> firewalls.... >> >> Any Clues? >> >> -Drew >> >> Andrew Lynch >> atlynch@mac.com >> From lists at mac.com Mon May 7 12:01:38 2007 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Mon May 7 12:01:52 2007 Subject: [X4U] Beach Ball In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you tried restarting? On May 7, 2007, at 2:35 PM, Ralph wrote: > I have a "dome base" iMac that's developed a bad case of beach > balls. The cursor appears most often when I choose Print... from > almost any application. It also often comes up when I choose File > > Open... In addition, the machine seems sluggish generally. Here's > the configuration: > > iMac G4 800 MHz > 768 MB RAM (maxed out) > 18.24 GB free on 60 GB hard drive > OS X 10.4.9 with latest update > > Disk Utility sees no problems. Suggestions? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070507/126195be/attachment.html From healyzh at aracnet.com Mon May 7 13:04:06 2007 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Mon May 7 13:04:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] Beach Ball In-Reply-To: from "Ralph" at May 07, 2007 11:35:10 AM Message-ID: <200705072004.l47K467K004409@onyx.spiritone.com> > I have a "dome base" iMac that's developed a bad case of beach balls. > The cursor appears most often when I choose Print... from almost any > application. It also often comes up when I choose File > Open... In > addition, the machine seems sluggish generally. Here's the > configuration: > > iMac G4 800 MHz > 768 MB RAM (maxed out) > 18.24 GB free on 60 GB hard drive > OS X 10.4.9 with latest update > > Disk Utility sees no problems. Suggestions? > > Ralph Jones How is the printer connected? A couple possible problems come to mind, but will depend on the connection method. I'm going to assume it's a USB InkJet, if so try unplugging the USB connection for the printer, if it's plugged into a USB Hub, unplug the hub as well. If it's a network printer, try unplugging the network from the Mac. You might need to try deleting the printer information as well before trying either one of these solutions. In either case I'd try unplugging the network connection on the Mac, as long as it isn't Wireless, if it is wireless, turn off your wireless access point. Basically my suggestions are based on the fact that a marginal device such as a Hub or switch can cause strange problems. Having said that, they're likely worth just what you paid for them, still they're what I'd try next. Zane From fxn at hashref.com Mon May 7 13:46:50 2007 From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria) Date: Mon May 7 13:47:03 2007 Subject: [X4U] simple Mail backup Message-ID: <6C537902-0E7A-48CA-9F91-C23E57D97A95@hashref.com> I've bought an external drive. If I simply drag the Mail folder there could I recover my email with Mail.app in case of hard-disk failure? -- fxn From darwin at ljsworld.com Mon May 7 14:10:24 2007 From: darwin at ljsworld.com (..lj) Date: Mon May 7 14:10:41 2007 Subject: [X4U] simple Mail backup In-Reply-To: <6C537902-0E7A-48CA-9F91-C23E57D97A95@hashref.com> References: <6C537902-0E7A-48CA-9F91-C23E57D97A95@hashref.com> Message-ID: <4B322CC2-3510-4C68-B6F6-E7989C7BC8B4@ljsworld.com> On May 7, 2007, at 13:46, Xavier Noria wrote: > I've bought an external drive. If I simply drag the Mail folder > there could I recover my email with Mail.app in case of hard-disk > failure? > > -- fxn I would Drag the following for Mail: ~/Library/Mail ~/Library/Mail Downloads ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist You also might want to save your Address Book: ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook ..lj From mac at kapellos.com Mon May 7 14:25:47 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Mon May 7 14:25:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] simple Mail backup In-Reply-To: <4B322CC2-3510-4C68-B6F6-E7989C7BC8B4@ljsworld.com> References: <6C537902-0E7A-48CA-9F91-C23E57D97A95@hashref.com> <4B322CC2-3510-4C68-B6F6-E7989C7BC8B4@ljsworld.com> Message-ID: <8D36C2E5-A1C4-4B07-A0D3-4FDD4354C61B@kapellos.com> > > You also might want to save your Address Book: > ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook even simpler: in Address Book: go to the file menu > Back up Address Book in case of a hard drive failure: in Address Book: go to the file menu > Revert to Address Book back up? simple! alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.9 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.9 :: From neil at laubenthal.net Mon May 7 15:58:30 2007 From: neil at laubenthal.net (Neil Laubenthal) Date: Mon May 7 15:58:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] simple Mail backup In-Reply-To: <6C537902-0E7A-48CA-9F91-C23E57D97A95@hashref.com> References: <6C537902-0E7A-48CA-9F91-C23E57D97A95@hashref.com> Message-ID: You'll need to backup ~/Library/Mail. Then you can restore that folder after recovering from the drive failure, fix the permissions appropriately, and it should work. On May 7, 2007, at 16:46, Xavier Noria wrote: > I've bought an external drive. If I simply drag the Mail folder > there could I recover my email with Mail.app in case of hard-disk > failure? > > -- fxn > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From michaelelliott at mac.com Mon May 7 16:36:56 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Mon May 7 16:37:59 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: References: <692870D4-60F7-4467-8A3F-F84B99FAB390@mac.com> <631EDA98-E93E-4E04-990E-DF06EB714F9A@mac.com> Message-ID: <925BD9B9-C25C-47D4-BC98-828C27945C70@mac.com> Drew, Do you use more than one e-mail account in Mail? I primarily use my AOL account for day-to-day e-mail, but I use this .Mac account for this newsgroup and some others. When I reply to a posting here, it always defaults to coming FROM my AOL account; hence, I get a bounce, since the AOL account is not registered on the discussion group. When you reply to these posts, can you confirm that the account you're sending from is the one that's registered? Example: as I reply to this post right now, it has defaulted to sending from my AOL account. I have to manually select my other e- mail account to send from successfully. On May 7, 2007, at 1:56 PM, Lynch Andrew wrote: > Not sure which of these are getting through. I'm getting a lot of > "waiting for moderator approval messages" > > I've disabled all the firewalls completely for testing. I have > checked Remote Login... > > Cheers, > Drew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070507/b009325c/attachment.html From michaelelliott at mac.com Mon May 7 16:45:15 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Mon May 7 16:46:14 2007 Subject: [X4U] Beach Ball In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ralph, I would check the logs in Console.app and see if there are any repetitive calls being made related to USB devices. This will usually be in the System.log if I remember correctly. If you DO see that, try disconnecting the offending USB peripheral and see if that fixes the sluggishness problem. I had a scanner once that went flaky. The symptoms were nearly as you described... sluggish behavior with no apparent reason. Looking in the logs showed connection errors for this device occurring every second, constantly. Michael On May 7, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Ralph wrote: > I have a "dome base" iMac that's developed a bad case of beach > balls. The cursor appears most often when I choose Print... from > almost any application. It also often comes up when I choose File > > Open... In addition, the machine seems sluggish generally. Here's > the configuration: > > iMac G4 800 MHz > 768 MB RAM (maxed out) > 18.24 GB free on 60 GB hard drive > OS X 10.4.9 with latest update > > Disk Utility sees no problems. Suggestions? > > Ralph Jones -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070507/3023e1fa/attachment-0001.html From michaelelliott at mac.com Mon May 7 16:45:57 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Mon May 7 16:46:57 2007 Subject: [X4U] Beach Ball In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C347DAB-09D3-437B-9CB1-EFEE200C95A1@mac.com> Ralph, I would check the logs in Console.app and see if there are any repetitive calls being made related to USB devices. This will usually be in the System.log if I remember correctly. If you DO see that, try disconnecting the offending USB peripheral and see if that fixes the sluggishness problem. I had a scanner once that went flaky. The symptoms were nearly as you described... sluggish behavior with no apparent reason. Looking in the logs showed connection errors for this device occurring every second, constantly. Michael On May 7, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Ralph wrote: > I have a "dome base" iMac that's developed a bad case of beach > balls. The cursor appears most often when I choose Print... from > almost any application. It also often comes up when I choose File > > Open... In addition, the machine seems sluggish generally. Here's > the configuration: > > iMac G4 800 MHz > 768 MB RAM (maxed out) > 18.24 GB free on 60 GB hard drive > OS X 10.4.9 with latest update > > Disk Utility sees no problems. Suggestions? > > Ralph Jones -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070507/51ab9e8b/attachment.html From ronsteinke at mac.com Mon May 7 19:28:44 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Mon May 7 19:27:22 2007 Subject: [X4U] Beach Ball In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A0D8797-EA6F-4853-8681-C1D81E878952@mac.com> On May 7, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Ralph wrote: > I have a "dome base" iMac that's developed a bad case of beach > balls. The cursor appears most often when I choose Print... from > almost any application. It also often comes up when I choose File > > Open... In addition, the machine seems sluggish generally. Have you run the chron programs lately to take care of the housecleaning? Check out Onyx via google. Many times, a slowdown is the result of cache files being too full. That is another area for concern. Do you have a hub connected between the Mac and the printer? Sometimes, a hub can cause slowdowns, too. Check your settings under the printer preferences. Maybe you have something active that is slowing down your printing functions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070507/6136ec13/attachment.html From artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com Mon May 7 22:24:08 2007 From: artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com (Lela Tong) Date: Mon May 7 22:24:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Cursor Movement - Core 2 Duo vs. Core Duo Message-ID: <50197.5037.qm@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm new so I don't know if this has been discussed. Is it my imagination, or does the new core 2 duo allow for a better cursor response on the Windows XP side? Or, is it due to the new 1.2? bootcamp? I saw Windows XP on a 15 inch laptop, core duo - and the cursor was not so great (the setting was to the far right). But, today, on a 2.16 Ghz, 1Gig, core 2 duo, iMac running on the new bootcamp, the cursor was fine in XP. Does anyone have the little 13 inch with core 2 duo and running XP? And, how is the cursor responding? LT --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070507/171d7b1d/attachment.html From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Mon May 7 23:32:41 2007 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Mon May 7 23:33:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] Problems with SSH and VNC In-Reply-To: <20070507234614.1D999CDA053@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070507234614.1D999CDA053@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Lynch Andrew >I've disabled all the firewalls completely for testing. I have >checked Remote Login... >> On May 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Lynch Andrew wrote: >>> I cannot seem to VNC or ssh to my Intel Mac mini from my powerpc >>> macs. This used to work. I can ssh from the mini to itself, and >>> I can ssh from my G5 tower to my G4 laptop. I can also run VNC >>> amongst the powerpc systems. I started sshd -d on the min, and it >>> is not reporting any attempt to connect. I disabled all >>> firewalls.... So: ssh G5 -> G4 = yes ssh G5 -> mini = no ssh G4 -> G5 = no ssh G4 -> mini = no ssh mini -> G4 = no ssh mini -> G5 = no From each of the hosts, in Terminal, telnet to each of the other hosts with a 2nd argument of ssh (or 22). G5-prompt$ telnet G4-hostname ssh G5-prompt$ telnet mini-hostname ssh etc For the first, because it works you should get something like: david@ivdg4:191: telnet ivdpb4 22 Trying 192.168.0.7... Connected to ivdpb4. Escape character is '^]'. SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 Protocol mismatch. Connection closed by foreign host. You need to hit return where the blank line is. If you don't get such a response in any test, investigate any common factor. If the telnets all work, report back what the text of the response to a failing ssh is. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. Chair of HPUX SysAdmin SIG of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From ralph at avatarbiz.com Tue May 8 10:19:21 2007 From: ralph at avatarbiz.com (Ralph) Date: Tue May 8 10:19:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] Beach Ball Message-ID: <30AACC6A-678A-409A-8905-2B2DF79E1F4A@avatarbiz.com> Guess I didn't give quite enough information. The iMac in question is the primary printing station in a networked graphics environment. It talks to three network printers and the Internet via Airport, and to a pair of local printers and a scanner via USB. The Airport base station is an older model 802.11B unit. It serves as the gateway to an Ethernet network with a pair of routers serving two HP PostScript laser printers (one color, one B/W), a G4 PowerMac, a Windows 2000 workstation, a Canon ImageRunner and a T-1 Internet connection. Also communicating with the base station wirelessly are another G4 PowerMac desktop and a PowerBook G4. The PowerMac desktop has several hard drives, one of which is the master repository for client files from all the other computers. Files are archived by transferring over the network. The iMac is loaded to the gills with USB connections: through direct connections and a USB hub, it talks to an HP scanner, an HP large- format inkjet printer, an Epson medium-format inkjet printer, a USB wireless adapter, a multi-format camera card reader, keyboard, mouse and a USB flash memory stick for sneakernet file transfer. The iMac is restarted every day. I installed Tiger Cache Cleaner on it recently; this sped it up a little. It also runs Norton AntiVirus. Hmm... that's a lot of info I left out! From Michael's response, I infer that any of the USB devices could be a problem; guess I'll start there. I've never looked at a log in Console.app -- but I'll research how to do that. TIA for any further thoughts. Ralph Jones From dancurr at frontiernet.net Tue May 8 11:35:53 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Tue May 8 11:35:57 2007 Subject: [X4U] FrankenMac Strikes again!! Message-ID: <4640C309.6000808@frontiernet.net> Hello All My daughters Beige G3/500, 768 MB RAM, OS 10.2.8 is making her and my life crazy again. I bought her a first generation iShuffle and loaded the software, updated iTunes and followed the instruction. She loaded about forty songs into iTunes from different CD's and uploaded to the iShuffle with no problem. A couple of days ago she uploaded about 15 more songs to the iTunes library and then hooked up the iShuffle, it did not readily show up on the desktop and when it did the last letter in it's name was some unknown letter / character that looked like a trapezoid. I clicked Autofill and it said updating complete but none of the new songs were added. I added 5 songs to the library myself with the same result. Reasonable suggestions welcome, Dan Currie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070508/702c821c/attachment.html From fin at finseth.com Tue May 8 12:15:32 2007 From: fin at finseth.com (Craig A. Finseth) Date: Tue May 8 12:15:54 2007 Subject: [X4U] FrankenMac Strikes again!! In-Reply-To: <4640C309.6000808@frontiernet.net> (message from Dan A Currie on Tue, 08 May 2007 13:35:53 -0500) References: <4640C309.6000808@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20070508191532.B401D76D02@isis.visi.com> My daughters Beige G3/500, 768 MB RAM, OS 10.2.8 is making her and my life crazy again. I bought her a first generation iShuffle and loaded the software, updated iTunes and followed the instruction. She loaded about forty songs into iTunes from different CD's and uploaded to the iShuffle with no problem. A couple of days ago she uploaded about 15 more songs to the iTunes library and then hooked up the iShuffle, it did not readily show up on the desktop and when it did the last letter in it's name was some unknown letter / character that looked like a trapezoid. I clicked Autofill and it said updating complete but none of the new songs were added. I added 5 songs to the library myself with the same result. Reasonable suggestions welcome, Do a hard reset on the Shuffle and start over (the only thing you'll have to do is re-enter its name)? Craig From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Tue May 8 17:15:41 2007 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Tue May 8 17:16:51 2007 Subject: [X4U] Acrobat PDF presentation example [TAN] Message-ID: Hiya, I'm teaching a class tonight on using Acrobat as a presentation tool and would like to provide the students with a sample PDF with some excellent presentation features in it (navigation/movies/sound etc.). I vaguely remember looking at such a file a year or so ago but can't remember where I found it. I kinda thought it may have come with the CS installation discs but just had a look with no luck. Your pointers are most appreciated! Cheers, Cojcolds From luomat at gmail.com Tue May 8 20:45:40 2007 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Tue May 8 20:46:01 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> Message-ID: <126C4D14-CB50-43F9-B35F-456355E35BC4@gmail.com> On May 1, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > Putting aside shrink-wrap licensing issues, can anyone tell me if > Vista Home Basic works with Parallels? (I'm looking for first hand > experience.) Has anyone here used this combination successfully? Hands On: Running Vista Home on a Mac In spite of what its license says, you can run Vista Home via virtualization apps http://www.macworld.com/2007/02/firstlooks/vistamac/index.php?pf=1 From randy at macattorney.com Tue May 8 22:18:19 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Tue May 8 22:18:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: Vista Home Basic With Parallels In-Reply-To: <126C4D14-CB50-43F9-B35F-456355E35BC4@gmail.com> References: <3C247816-1083-4382-B6E5-7CD8774CB7F3@macattorney.com> <126C4D14-CB50-43F9-B35F-456355E35BC4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6E6ED178-96E5-4C7B-821B-BF9C5FE60510@macattorney.com> On May 8, 2007, at 8:45 PM, TjL wrote: > Hands On: Running Vista Home on a Mac > In spite of what its license says, you can run Vista Home via > virtualization apps > > http://www.macworld.com/2007/02/firstlooks/vistamac/index.php?pf=1 Thanks! Just for fun, I decided to try the free demo of CrossOver (no copy of Windows is required). It worked great! In fact, I tried using an animation program that my son really likes in CrossOver, even though it isn't "certified" for CrossOver, and that worked perfectly too! It is incredibly satisfying to be able to run Windows software and not have to pay Microsoft a cent to do so! If I find that I do need to run Windows in the future, I will probably get Parallels and a copy of WinXP, which I can get inexpensively from: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx? p=ItemDetail&item=SWW10646 ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From mylists at senecadesign.com Wed May 9 09:0