From edgould1948 at comcast.net Sat Sep 1 15:34:22 2007 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Sat Sep 1 15:37:13 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D168DBC-D226-4258-8D5A-C0D2D8BE40A0@comcast.net> On Aug 27, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Linda wrote: > On 8/27/07 11:15 AM, Ed Gould wrote: > >> I suspect its a software issue with 10.4.10 as the problem >> started after the >> upgrade. > > When my PowerBooks lose the signal, it's not because of the OS X > 10.4.10 > update; the 17" is on 10.4.10, but the problem predated that > update. The 15" > TiBook 400 is at OS X 10.3.9, so the 10.4.10 update isn't to blame > for it. > > My G5, which is Ethernet-connected to the router, is on OS X 10.4.9. > > Sorry to hear about your troubles. Another data point for the OP to > consider. > > ~Linda Linda, Well it sure is a possibility. Except that the connection was reasonably solid before the update. I suppose someone else's wireless could be killing my signal how do you tell? Ed From XPressoBean at mac.com Sat Sep 1 15:46:32 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sat Sep 1 15:49:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: <7D168DBC-D226-4258-8D5A-C0D2D8BE40A0@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 9/1/07 5:34 PM, Ed Gould wrote: > I suppose someone else's wireless could be killing my signal how do > you tell? It could also be yours or someone else's cordless phone, or microwave, as well. I don't know how you tell other than by trial and error and written documentation, after a while you may see a pattern? Wish you luck, sorry to read about your troubles. :( From macmonster at myrealbox.com Sat Sep 1 18:25:59 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Sat Sep 1 18:26:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: <7D168DBC-D226-4258-8D5A-C0D2D8BE40A0@comcast.net> References: <7D168DBC-D226-4258-8D5A-C0D2D8BE40A0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <52F9B58C-B4ED-418F-B6FE-49973D0FDB98@myrealbox.com> On 1 Sep 2007, at 23:34, Ed Gould wrote: > ... > I suppose someone else's wireless could be killing my signal how do > you tell? In the past I've used KisMac for this. KisMac is a whole wireless (security) auditing suite and very comprehensive - I think its full features are kinda overkill for your purposes and that someone else write a simple stumber that would be adequate - but when you start it up it shows a table of which networks are detected & which channels they're on. Ideally, if your neighbour's wireless is on channel 11 then yours should ideally be on channel 1, 4 or 8. I think that each channel overlaps the two adjacent ones, so spacing should be 3 apart. Different manufacturers of APs tend to choose different default channels - 11 and 1 are the most common, so it's as equally likely that packets from your neighbour's AP collide with yours as it is that they cause no interference at all. Stroller. From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Sep 1 19:05:51 2007 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Sep 1 19:06:39 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: <7D168DBC-D226-4258-8D5A-C0D2D8BE40A0@comcast.net> References: <7D168DBC-D226-4258-8D5A-C0D2D8BE40A0@comcast.net> Message-ID: At 5:34 PM -0500, 9/1/07, Ed Gould wrote: >I suppose someone else's wireless could be killing my signal how do you tell? You use iStumbler to ensure that you have adequate separation of chanels. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti I am not young enough to know everything. -- Oscar Wilde <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Sep 1 19:07:37 2007 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Sep 1 19:08:23 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: <52F9B58C-B4ED-418F-B6FE-49973D0FDB98@myrealbox.com> References: <7D168DBC-D226-4258-8D5A-C0D2D8BE40A0@comcast.net> <52F9B58C-B4ED-418F-B6FE-49973D0FDB98@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: At 2:25 AM +0100, 9/2/07, Stroller wrote: >On 1 Sep 2007, at 23:34, Ed Gould wrote: >>... >>I suppose someone else's wireless could be killing my signal how do you tell? > >In the past I've used KisMac for this. > >KisMac is a whole wireless (security) auditing suite and very >comprehensive - I think its full features are kinda overkill for >your purposes and that someone else write a simple stumber that >would be adequate - but when you start it up it shows a table of >which networks are detected & which channels they're on. > >Ideally, if your neighbour's wireless is on channel 11 then yours >should ideally be on channel 1, 4 or 8. I think that each channel >overlaps the two adjacent ones, so spacing should be 3 apart. >Different manufacturers of APs tend to choose different default >channels - 11 and 1 are the most common, so it's as equally likely >that packets from your neighbour's AP collide with yours as it is >that they cause no interference at all. The channels should be 1, 6, & 11 with a 5 channel separation (in the U.S.) -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti Things are more like they are now than they have ever been. -- Gerald R. Ford <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Sep 1 19:14:46 2007 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Sep 1 19:15:35 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 10:43 PM -0500, 8/26/07, Cheryl Homiak wrote: >I'd especially like feedback if somebody on this list uses or has >used AT&T/SBC DSL with an Airport Extreme. I do lots of installations and I've never found any particular problematic situations between ISPs and wireless access points. I've dealt with all the ISPs and lots of access points. There are differences in configuration process but as far as compatibility, there is no conflict that is consistent or unworkable. (The single exception to all of the above is the very few ISPs that provide internet access with private WAN IP addresses.) -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti A truly great book should be read in youth, again in maturity and once more in old age, as a fine building should be seen by morning light, at noon and by moonlight. -- Robertson Davies <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Sep 1 19:15:07 2007 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Sep 1 19:17:17 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:01 PM -0500, 8/26/07, Linda wrote: >The Speedstream that AT&T supplied had the same LAN IP that my >router had (192.168.0.1), which meant that I had to choose a new IP >for my router (192.168.10.1), but other than that, it was pretty >straightforward. Did you really want to have two different subnets? I'd bet that you would have been better served by putting the Speedstream in bridge mode rather than create a double NAT. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. ~ Oxford University Press, Edpress News <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From mike at lvnv.com Sat Sep 1 21:14:48 2007 From: mike at lvnv.com (M K) Date: Sat Sep 1 21:15:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firefox Message-ID: I seem to have lost the Red, Yellow and Green (button) / title bar for my firefox window. It is behind the Finder bar at the top of the screen. Since I can't see that portion of the window, I can't move the box down or around. I tried to VIEW > Zoom and it maximizes with the title bar STILL behind the finder bar at the top. I tried to close and reopen, didn't work Does anyone have any suggestions on how to move the window or get the red yellow green buttons back? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2460 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070901/b76b8516/smime-0001.bin From mike at lvnv.com Sat Sep 1 21:17:05 2007 From: mike at lvnv.com (M K) Date: Sat Sep 1 21:17:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I figured it out... probably not the BEST way, but it worked... I hit F10 and it brought the whole window into view, then I "caught" the title bar before it slid behind the finder bar again... what's up with that? is it a firefox bug or a osx bug? On Sep 1, 2007, at 9:14 PM, M K wrote: > I seem to have lost the Red, Yellow and Green (button) / title bar > for my firefox window. > > It is behind the Finder bar at the top of the screen. > > Since I can't see that portion of the window, I can't move the box > down or around. > > I tried to VIEW > Zoom and it maximizes with the title bar STILL > behind the finder bar at the top. > > I tried to close and reopen, didn't work > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to move the window or get > the red yellow green buttons back? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2460 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070901/63359a7a/smime.bin From XPressoBean at mac.com Sun Sep 2 00:19:15 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sun Sep 2 00:20:04 2007 Subject: [X4U] Airport Extreme and AT&T/SBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/1/07 9:15 PM, Robert Ameeti wrote: > Did you really want to have two different subnets? I'd bet that you > would have been better served by putting the Speedstream in bridge > mode rather than create a double NAT. The Speedstream is bridged. The Speedstream is not wireless. As soon as I changed the number on the D-Link, it stopped reporting "Smurf attacks". ~Linda From XPressoBean at mac.com Sun Sep 2 00:31:26 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sun Sep 2 00:31:31 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firefox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/1/07 11:17 PM, M K wrote: > is it a firefox bug or a osx bug? It's not just Firefox nor OS X. I have done that in Word since OS 9 -- or maybe earlier! Since I can't do it in Safari, I assume it's a coding defect in the app rather than the OS. I'm not an expert and I could be very wrong. From douglist at macnauchtan.com Sun Sep 2 04:51:40 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Sun Sep 2 04:53:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 21:14 -0700 9/1/07, M K wrote: >I seem to have lost the Red, Yellow and Green (button) / title bar for my firefox window. > >It is behind the Finder bar at the top of the screen. > >Since I can't see that portion of the window, I can't move the box down or around. Do you have more than one monitor? If you do, is there any screen space that is above the menu bar but not on the main monitor? Those amount to negative screen coordinates in the graphics world because positive is down in the world of printing. Lots of software is terribly confused by negative numbers. Most UNIX machines don't have any such thing in their X11 environment and OS neXt "is UNIX underneath". Terminal.app is strange. I have a monitor above my menu bar and I can't just drag a window up there but I can get it there using an AppleScript to set the bounds of a window. I have recently discovered that on a slower G4 I can drag the window really fast and it will make the transition. Apparently the code is checking for a mouse movement into the menu bar and if you move fast enough it doesn't catch you in the act. On this OS 9 machine - an 8500 - I can drag windows using the mouse within 3 pixels. of any edge of a window. That feature was added sometime before OS 8 to help with earlier manifestations of your problem. Just another feature that went out with OS neXt. -- --> The message came to Abraham that he would beget a son. Sarah, who was behind the door, laughed. <-- From michaelelliott at mac.com Sun Sep 2 06:14:44 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sun Sep 2 06:20:59 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firefox In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I *think* I remember that I fixed this problem in the past either by going to the Displays prefs and turning on video mirroring on my 2- display setup, or changing the resolution of the affected screen, temporarily, to something lower res. On Sep 1, 2007, at 11:17 PM, M K wrote: > I figured it out... > > probably not the BEST way, but it worked... > > I hit F10 and it brought the whole window into view, then I > "caught" the title bar before it slid behind the finder bar again... > > what's up with that? > > is it a firefox bug or a osx bug? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paul Moortgat From janmel at mac.com Tue Sep 4 09:16:57 2007 From: janmel at mac.com (Jan Melichar) Date: Tue Sep 4 09:17:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] ceasles spinning disk In-Reply-To: <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> References: <49254912-2689-4195-8829-EA77A92D7797@mac.com> <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> On 25 Jul 2007, at 19:21, Stroller wrote: > > On 25 Jul 2007, at 17:15, Jan Melichar wrote: > >> In the last month or so both my computer at home and at work have >> taken to spinning the disk an inordinate amount slowing everything >> down. >> ... >> I have 1GB of memory but this is used up with just a few >> application. For example If I open Word, and Safari then Acrobat >> free memory is reduced to 25MB; if I then quit all application >> free memory grows to 130MB which is considerably less that the >> 429MB when newly launched. >> >> Yes I have ordered another 1GB of memory but I now wonder if that >> is the solution. > > How much disk space do you have free? > Highlight the system disk, top-right on the desktop, and press > Apple-i. > > I have found - not wanting to kick off any flamewars, but this is > my experience - that disk fragmentaton can make a HUGE difference > on systems which are running low on drive space. You can get a > version of iDefrag which boots from CD and I have in the past found > the results to be very noticeable. > > I can't comment directly on your memory usage as I have rarely > monitored it closely on systems which are short of RAM. However > Safari (in particular) seems to be a big resource hog and I would > expect quitting it not to free up as much space as opening it > consumed. I can't explain why this is, but it just seems to be the > way. My G5 PowerMac is only put to sleep when I'm not at the > keyboard and might often not be properly rebooted for 2 to 6 weeks > at a time; its glitchy behaviour - especially the spinning > beachball, is often observable and Safari is a real pig at times - > OS X just doesn't seem to automatically free memory as well as a > hard reboot. > > Whatever the cause of your problems I'm sure you will notice the > difference that the extra RAM makes. RAM seems to be a panacea for > all kinds of ills. Actually, looking up that word in the > dictionary, RAM seems to be just a panacea, without additional > redundant verbage, but I always was a wordy bugger. > > Stroller. A while back a number of people commented on my problem and I think that I have traced it to iCal. I now have 2GB of memory on the G5 so the spinning disk and slowing down is less of a problem but on the office G4 with 1GB memory the problem starts the moment I launch iCal and goes on for a good 15 mins. According to the Activity Monitor SynchServer goes into overdrive. In the case of the G5 it swallows up 95% of the CPU (in the top pane) or 45% user (in the lower pane). As you can guess I don't really know what that means. So on the G5 with the extra memory the problem has gone away but not on the G4 where this did not used to be a problem. I would be good to find a solution to this irritating issue. Jan From ronsteinke at mac.com Tue Sep 4 12:21:07 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Tue Sep 4 12:20:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] ceasles spinning disk In-Reply-To: <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> References: <49254912-2689-4195-8829-EA77A92D7797@mac.com> <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> Message-ID: <7E97D6DC-ED70-4119-8799-79CDBFDA2D27@mac.com> On 4 Sep, 2007, at 9:16, Jan Melichar wrote: > So on the G5 with the extra memory the problem has gone away but > not on the G4 where this did not used to be a problem. I would be > good to find a solution to this irritating issue. It does not truly appear that you have solved the problem, just partially concealed it by throwing additional RAM at it. Yes, RAM does help with slow processing, but it isn't the total fix that you seem to want. To me, it appears that you have enough data in your iCal records that IT is the cause of the problem, not a lack of memory. Are you doing any synchronization of iCal records with other computers? Did you configure iCal to update records on other machines every time you open it? Are you configured to share data with other users? There are a number of issues that can cause iCal to spin the color wheel at startup and you need to eliminate each possibility for cause before you can say that you have the solution. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070904/0665d223/attachment-0001.html From austexal at austin.rr.com Tue Sep 4 14:26:57 2007 From: austexal at austin.rr.com (Al Jones) Date: Tue Sep 4 14:27:03 2007 Subject: [X4U] Firefox Message-ID: A small unobtrusive application called "ZOOOM" http://coderage-software.com/zooom/ is great for this type of issue, I use quite often and well worth the 19.95. I find it most useful especially when I have 3/4 windows open. Hope this help someone out. I am only a very satisfied owner and have no other connection to Coderage. Al Jones From janmel at mac.com Tue Sep 4 23:06:23 2007 From: janmel at mac.com (Jan Melichar) Date: Tue Sep 4 23:06:42 2007 Subject: [X4U] ceasles spinning disk In-Reply-To: <7E97D6DC-ED70-4119-8799-79CDBFDA2D27@mac.com> References: <49254912-2689-4195-8829-EA77A92D7797@mac.com> <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> <7E97D6DC-ED70-4119-8799-79CDBFDA2D27@mac.com> Message-ID: <784BB712-AA9D-463F-8158-6406EC0501CD@mac.com> On 4 Sep 2007, at 20:21, Ronald Steinke wrote: > On 4 Sep, 2007, at 9:16, Jan Melichar wrote: > >> So on the G5 with the extra memory the problem has gone away but >> not on the G4 where this did not used to be a problem. I would be >> good to find a solution to this irritating issue. > > It does not truly appear that you have solved the problem, just > partially concealed it by throwing additional RAM at it. > > Yes, RAM does help with slow processing, but it isn't the total fix > that you seem to want. To me, it appears that you have enough data > in your iCal records that IT is the cause of the problem, not a > lack of memory. I don't know how much is too much; the calender is used to remind and notify and consists of short two or three words notes > > Are you doing any synchronization of iCal records with other > computers? YES > Did you configure iCal to update records on other machines every > time you open it? YES > Are you configured to share data with other users? YES > > There are a number of issues that can cause iCal to spin the color > wheel at startup and you need to eliminate each possibility for > cause before you can say that you have the solution. iCal's usefulness is in its synchronising function which is easy for people to use. JAn From lists at marksmandesign.ca Wed Sep 5 06:56:48 2007 From: lists at marksmandesign.ca (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Wed Sep 5 07:00:20 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD Message-ID: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not crazy about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere including the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. Thanks Mark Des Cotes Owner-Graphic Designer Marksman Design Mailing adress: 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 Canada 613-936-6876 Mark Des Cotes Owner-Graphic Designer Marksman Design Mailing adress: 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 Canada 613-936-6876 From macsys at mac.com Wed Sep 5 07:27:30 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (wilkinw) Date: Wed Sep 5 07:27:55 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> References: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> Message-ID: CMD-F On Sep 5, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not > crazy about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere > including the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. > > Thanks > > Mark Des Cotes > Owner-Graphic Designer > Marksman Design > > Mailing adress: > 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 > Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 > Canada > 613-936-6876 > > > > > > Mark Des Cotes > Owner-Graphic Designer > Marksman Design > > Mailing adress: > 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 > Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 > Canada > 613-936-6876 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From lists at marksmandesign.ca Wed Sep 5 07:49:12 2007 From: lists at marksmandesign.ca (Mark Des Cotes) Date: Wed Sep 5 07:52:51 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: References: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> Message-ID: <2724B413-0479-4D81-B169-7EC9A676DA08@marksmandesign.ca> CMD-F doesn't find everything in the System or Users folders. Try it, you'll see. Mark Des Cotes Owner-Graphic Designer Marksman Design Mailing adress: 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 Canada 613-936-6876 On 5-Sep-07, at 10:27 AM, wilkinw wrote: > CMD-F > > On Sep 5, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > >> So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not >> crazy about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere >> including the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mark Des Cotes >> Owner-Graphic Designer >> Marksman Design >> >> Mailing adress: >> 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 >> Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 >> Canada >> 613-936-6876 >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark Des Cotes >> Owner-Graphic Designer >> Marksman Design >> >> Mailing adress: >> 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 >> Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 >> Canada >> 613-936-6876 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// >> www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > From allan at hise.org Wed Sep 5 07:58:56 2007 From: allan at hise.org (Allan Hise) Date: Wed Sep 5 07:59:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> References: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not crazy about > Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere including the system > folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. If the terminal doesn't bother you, then 'find' works great. man find then google some practical examples based on what you need to do. Allan From vplewis at mac.com Wed Sep 5 08:04:14 2007 From: vplewis at mac.com (Vince Lewis) Date: Wed Sep 5 08:04:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: <2724B413-0479-4D81-B169-7EC9A676DA08@marksmandesign.ca> References: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> <2724B413-0479-4D81-B169-7EC9A676DA08@marksmandesign.ca> Message-ID: On Sep 5, 2007, at 7:49 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > CMD-F doesn't find everything in the System or Users folders. Try > it, you'll see. > > Mark Des Cotes > Owner-Graphic Designer > Marksman Design > > Mailing adress: > 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 > Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 > Canada > 613-936-6876 > > > > On 5-Sep-07, at 10:27 AM, wilkinw wrote: > >> CMD-F >> >> On Sep 5, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: >> >>> So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not >>> crazy about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere >>> including the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Mark Des Cotes >>> Owner-Graphic Designer >>> Marksman Design >>> >>> Mailing adress: >>> 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 >>> Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 >>> Canada >>> 613-936-6876 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark Des Cotes >>> Owner-Graphic Designer >>> Marksman Design >>> >>> Mailing adress: >>> 7-841 Sydney Street, Suite # 338 >>> Cornwall, Ontario K6H 7L2 >>> Canada >>> 613-936-6876 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> X4U mailing list >>> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >>> >>> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// >>> www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// >> www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal >> > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From randy at macattorney.com Wed Sep 5 08:21:16 2007 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed Sep 5 08:21:44 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> References: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> Message-ID: <16BD3F6C-2310-447E-BC06-FF04F24DFEA0@macattorney.com> On Sep 5, 2007, at 6:56 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not > crazy about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere > including the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. EasyFind has become very popular, and it is free. It has a better interface than Spotlight, and it doesn't require any pre-indexing. Its not as fast as Spotlight, but it is plenty fast. You can download EasyFind from here: http://www.devon-technologies.com/download/index.html Under "Freeware Applications and Services" a the bottom of the page. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From XPressoBean at mac.com Wed Sep 5 08:20:33 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Wed Sep 5 08:23:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> Message-ID: On 9/5/07 8:56 AM, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not crazy > about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere including > the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. NotLight. Unlike MoRU, it's free. The instructions with the app aren't great, but this macworld article gives better guidance. :-) peace, Linda From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Wed Sep 5 14:19:54 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Wed Sep 5 14:20:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] Launchbar Message-ID: <8DFBB838-2E97-4CB8-B9F3-0691C13E7F33@pandora.be> Is anyone using Launchbar? I can't figure out how to use my bookmarks from Safari in Launchbar. Paul Moortgat From silvoc at tiscali.it Wed Sep 5 15:17:46 2007 From: silvoc at tiscali.it (silvo conticello) Date: Wed Sep 5 15:18:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] Launchbar In-Reply-To: <8DFBB838-2E97-4CB8-B9F3-0691C13E7F33@pandora.be> References: <8DFBB838-2E97-4CB8-B9F3-0691C13E7F33@pandora.be> Message-ID: On 5 Sep 2007, at 23:19, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Is anyone using Launchbar? I can't figure out how to use my > bookmarks from Safari in Launchbar. I use it (and love it). Just make sure that the safari bookmarks indexing rule is checked. That should be everything needed. regards, silvo Silvo Conticello Albook 17" 1.67GHz/1.5Gb RAM/120Gb HD/OS10.4.8 iMac 1GHz/500Mb Ram/80Gb HD/OS10.4.8/17" display Cambridge UK From baltwo at san.rr.com Wed Sep 5 17:11:32 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Wed Sep 5 17:17:01 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: <20070905221827.9BE68150DBD3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070905221827.9BE68150DBD3@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 09/05/07, Mark Des Cotes wrote: > > So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not crazy > about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere including > the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. SpotLess isn't bad. If you're mostly search for files/folders by name, use the Terminal command, locate. Alternatively, if you want Spotlight to search everywhere, modify the hidden _rules.plist in /.Spotlight-V100/. This is what mine looks like: EXCLUDE INCLUDE /System /Library /Developer/ADC Reference Library /etc /private /usr /bin /sbin NOTE Specify paths to include or exclude, preceeding rules which target user-homes with ~/ Copy the original to the desktop, open it with TextEdit, modify to suit your needs, save it, and copy the revised one to /.Spotlight-V100/. Requires using the Terminal and prefacing the copy commands with sudo. From tlmiller at mac.com Wed Sep 5 19:27:06 2007 From: tlmiller at mac.com (T.L. Miller) Date: Wed Sep 5 19:27:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] what to use to search HD In-Reply-To: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> References: <2DAF3E94-E8C6-4A02-81B9-95AED7F0C8E7@marksmandesign.ca> Message-ID: <20070906022706.799600488@smtp.mac.com> On 9/5/07, at 9:56 AM, Mark Des Cotes lists@marksmandesign.ca said: >So what's the best (hopefully free) app to search HDs? I'm not crazy >about Spotlight. I'd like to be able to search everywhere including >the system folders. I'm on Mac 10.4.10. Not free, but I use FoxTrot from the fine people in Switzerland who also bring us PowerMail. Tom Miller .................................................. "The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side." R.O.Clark ................................................... From ronsteinke at mac.com Wed Sep 5 23:45:08 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Wed Sep 5 23:44:24 2007 Subject: [X4U] ceasles spinning disk In-Reply-To: <784BB712-AA9D-463F-8158-6406EC0501CD@mac.com> References: <49254912-2689-4195-8829-EA77A92D7797@mac.com> <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> <7E97D6DC-ED70-4119-8799-79CDBFDA2D27@mac.com> <784BB712-AA9D-463F-8158-6406EC0501CD@mac.com> Message-ID: On 4 Sep, 07, at 11:06 PM, Jan Melichar wrote: > iCal's usefulness is in its synchronising function which is easy > for people to use. I have no argument with that point, but I would begin to suspect that having iCal do an automatic synchronization at startup would be the culprit. My suggestion would be to disable the automatic function and determine that the problem is still there or not. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070905/0b0ce944/attachment.html From janmel at mac.com Thu Sep 6 08:25:51 2007 From: janmel at mac.com (Jan Melichar) Date: Thu Sep 6 08:26:13 2007 Subject: [X4U] ceasles spinning disk In-Reply-To: References: <49254912-2689-4195-8829-EA77A92D7797@mac.com> <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> <7E97D6DC-ED70-4119-8799-79CDBFDA2D27@mac.com> <784BB712-AA9D-463F-8158-6406EC0501CD@mac.com> Message-ID: <528E82FD-84FB-4356-A2B3-C8D8B35E64B4@mac.com> On 6 Sep 2007, at 07:45, Ronald Steinke wrote: > On 4 Sep, 07, at 11:06 PM, Jan Melichar wrote: > >> iCal's usefulness is in its synchronising function which is easy >> for people to use. > > I have no argument with that point, but I would begin to suspect > that having iCal do an automatic synchronization at startup would > be the culprit. My suggestion would be to disable the automatic > function and determine that the problem is still there or not. Yes the problem starts when iCal is launched and starts to synchronize. Jan J From mike at lvnv.com Thu Sep 6 08:35:16 2007 From: mike at lvnv.com (M K) Date: Thu Sep 6 08:35:24 2007 Subject: [X4U] IT Budget and Inventory Message-ID: <2793FC59-AC65-4840-9F2E-6BAB9C0BCCDC@lvnv.com> Can anyone suggest a piece of OSX software that will manage an IT Budget and Inventory? From nanc at spoolman.com Thu Sep 6 09:04:57 2007 From: nanc at spoolman.com (Spoolman Nancy) Date: Thu Sep 6 09:05:15 2007 Subject: [X4U] IT Budget and Inventory In-Reply-To: <2793FC59-AC65-4840-9F2E-6BAB9C0BCCDC@lvnv.com> References: <2793FC59-AC65-4840-9F2E-6BAB9C0BCCDC@lvnv.com> Message-ID: Filemaker Pro. It's wonderful. We have our repair list on it also, where teachers can log on to it and send in a ticket to have something worked on. Nanc On Sep 6, 2007, at 9:35 AM, M K wrote: > > Can anyone suggest a piece of OSX software that will manage an IT > Budget and Inventory? > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From ronsteinke at mac.com Fri Sep 7 00:42:27 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Fri Sep 7 00:43:31 2007 Subject: [X4U] ceasles spinning disk In-Reply-To: <528E82FD-84FB-4356-A2B3-C8D8B35E64B4@mac.com> References: <49254912-2689-4195-8829-EA77A92D7797@mac.com> <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> <7E97D6DC-ED70-4119-8799-79CDBFDA2D27@mac.com> <784BB712-AA9D-463F-8158-6406EC0501CD@mac.com> <528E82FD-84FB-4356-A2B3-C8D8B35E64B4@mac.com> Message-ID: On 6 Sep, 2007, at 8:25, Jan Melichar wrote: > Yes the problem starts when iCal is launched and starts to > synchronize. iCal has a Help menu item that might give you some subjects to look for as answers. I would still advise trying to disable the automatic synchronization function (your latest message did not clearly indicate that you had tried that yet) and seeing if the problem still existed at iCal startup. I have seen many other programs that started running at the time the computer was turned on and caused terrible delays in reaching a "ready to run" state. Every time this "startup function" was disabled, the computer ran without repeating the spinning disk delay. The most predominant programs of this sort were anti-virus, synchronization, back-up, and email fetchers with multiple subscriptions. That is why I suggested disabling the automatic synchronization function as a test. If the problem disappears when the automatic function is shut off, then the problem is probably being caused by one or more of the separate computers that the synchronization is being attempted with. From that point, I would remove the separate computers from the synchronization list one at a time and try to synchronize to the remaining computers as a test. That would pinpoint the computer responsible for the delay, if any is responsible at all. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070907/5a88cd3b/attachment.html From macmonster at myrealbox.com Fri Sep 7 04:07:59 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Fri Sep 7 04:08:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] ceasles spinning disk In-Reply-To: <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> References: <49254912-2689-4195-8829-EA77A92D7797@mac.com> <5D77B5E4-733F-42AF-89A0-0984F8C1391A@myrealbox.com> <218B56F0-1BB5-4D42-8902-22D9671842F7@mac.com> Message-ID: On 4 Sep 2007, at 17:16, Jan Melichar wrote: > A while back a number of people commented on my problem and I think > that I have traced it to iCal. I now have 2GB of memory on the G5 > so the spinning disk and slowing down is less of a problem but on > the office G4 with 1GB memory the problem starts the moment I > launch iCal and goes on for a good 15 mins. According to the > Activity Monitor SynchServer goes into overdrive. In the case of > the G5 it swallows up 95% of the CPU (in the top pane) or 45% user > (in the lower pane). Hi there, I suggest that on each machine you synchronise you open iCal & "export" (from the file menu) each schedule as a .ics file. This is a "plain text" version of the iCal database (you need to manually export a separate one for each iCal calendar). Delete all computers from your dot-Mac account and clear all data from it. Delete all your calendars in iCal & reimport them from the .ics files. Try again synchronising them. There are instructions in Apple's user-support forums on how to clear out the iCal database by deleting the appropriate files & directories within "~/Library". Likewise for the iSync cache. It is quite a chore to undertake all this, but I have found it solved synchronisation problems for me in the past. You should do all this before posting again further. My guess is that the underlying problem is that the iSync service is so slow & rubbish. This is surely down to Apple's servers, as I have always known everyone complain about it over the course of a number of revisions of OS X. My own tests involved using my desktop to place a single PDF file (of a few hundred k in size) into my dot-Mac iDisk (or whatever they call it) and synchronising that across to my laptop. After hitting the "Sync now" button several times, alternatively on each machine, and waiting for the "sync" to finish the PDF file had not shown up. I was pretty pissed off by this stage & gave up in disgust; the PDF file had not turned up the next day and when I noticed it there on my laptop it was already far too late to save my opinion of dotMac. I have to admit that synchronisation of iCal appointments did always go pretty smoothly for me - much better than the PDF file I just described. Usually I could simply enter an appointment on my desktop PC, hit "sync", and whilst I was getting ready to go out that would finish so that I could hit sync on the laptop. Most always the appointment would appear (fairly) immediately on the laptop - the problem was that when it didn't I'd often end up on the other side of town, opening my laptop and looking for the street number only to find no details of the customer (keeping the address & phone number of the customer in the iCal entry). Now I manage my schedules by exporting my schedule (as I described in my first paragraph) and transferring the .ics file to the other machine. This isn't proper "synchronisation" as it doesn't properly merge schedules - I need to always remember which computer holds my current "master" iCal schedule, lest I overwrite the wrong one. Mostly this means I just make all entries on my desktop and transfer a copy of the schedule to my laptop (so I can read-only entries whilst I'm out), but if I add an entry in my laptop I need to remember to make a transfer to my desktop before adding entries to it (or changing any existing ones). In my house this works pretty well because email sent to my own addresses never leaves the house - there is no upload & download to an external mail server, so the message (and attachment) appears immediately in my inbox. It is indeed more fiddly - to export, drag & drop the file, transfer it between computers, drag & drop the file again before finally importing it - than it is to click a single "sync" button, but I have found this method works for sure everytime, so it is worth it for me. Stroller. From michaelelliott at mac.com Sun Sep 9 07:20:28 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sun Sep 9 07:21:00 2007 Subject: [X4U] .Mac versions purchased online...does it matter? Message-ID: Time for me to renew my .Mac membership. I found the "Apple .Mac 4.0 Online Service" for sale for US$79.99. From what I recall, there is simply a code inside to enter on the .Mac website. Am I correct that .Mac doesn't care if it's a "5.0" version of .Mac...that I can simply renew no matter what? Would rather spend US$80 than US$99 Thanks! Michael From ftf at mac.com Sun Sep 9 07:33:14 2007 From: ftf at mac.com (Fabian Fang) Date: Sun Sep 9 07:33:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] .Mac versions purchased online...does it matter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sep 9, 2007, at 7:20 AM, Michael Elliott wrote: > Time for me to renew my .Mac membership. I found the "Apple .Mac > 4.0 Online Service" for sale for US$79.99. > > From what I recall, there is simply a code inside to enter on > the .Mac website. Am I correct that .Mac doesn't care if it's a > "5.0" version of .Mac...that I can simply renew no matter what? > Would rather spend US$80 than US$99 My .Mac membership is due for renewal in early October. I do not know whether there is any difference between Version 4.0 and Version 5.0. In order to be safe, I have just ordered Version 5.0 for $75.95 through Buy.com. From michaelelliott at mac.com Sun Sep 9 07:46:48 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sun Sep 9 07:47:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] .Mac versions purchased online...does it matter? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01DCAE21-9053-4A0D-AF50-B4FFC5B30A1B@mac.com> Darn, it's already up to $81.99.. Thanks for the tip! Michael On Sep 9, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: > > > My .Mac membership is due for renewal in early October. I do not > know whether there is any difference between Version 4.0 and > Version 5.0. In order to be safe, I have just ordered Version 5.0 > for $75.95 through Buy.com. > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From ftf at mac.com Sun Sep 9 08:42:28 2007 From: ftf at mac.com (Fabian Fang) Date: Sun Sep 9 08:42:37 2007 Subject: [X4U] .Mac versions purchased online...does it matter? In-Reply-To: <01DCAE21-9053-4A0D-AF50-B4FFC5B30A1B@mac.com> References: <01DCAE21-9053-4A0D-AF50-B4FFC5B30A1B@mac.com> Message-ID: <38ADFC21-9438-41AF-8C23-274E4F4D6394@mac.com> On Sep 9, 2007, at 7:46 AM, Michael Elliott wrote: > Darn, it's already up to $81.99.. Thanks for the tip! It is still $75.95 from iUnitek, a partner through Buy.com's Marketplace: Fabian From soyjourner at mac.com Sun Sep 9 18:59:50 2007 From: soyjourner at mac.com (Joshua Hough) Date: Sun Sep 9 19:00:00 2007 Subject: [X4U] Any way to hide a user account? Message-ID: <4a8dd8cc0709091859g227e2872h2fc65e9d6a9f1d0c@mail.gmail.com> Is there an easy way temporarily hide a whole account, so that the user's name does not appear in /Users/ or in the login window at startup? By "easy," I mean that this could be switched on and off as needed. Thanks! -Josh From kuestner at macnews.de Sun Sep 9 23:12:46 2007 From: kuestner at macnews.de (B. Kuestner) Date: Sun Sep 9 23:13:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] Any way to hide a user account? In-Reply-To: <4a8dd8cc0709091859g227e2872h2fc65e9d6a9f1d0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a8dd8cc0709091859g227e2872h2fc65e9d6a9f1d0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <265097F5-EE29-4EEA-B0FA-048A154B18D0@macnews.de> The UID has to be <500 and the home directory should not be located in /Users. For example the root user meets both criteria. So it is permanently accessible (once enabled; not recommended) but not visible in the login window or in /Users. But there is no "simple" way to achieve that. You should be familiar with Unix internals, the Terminal and/or Netinfo. Bj?rn From meged at earthlink.net Mon Sep 10 11:50:59 2007 From: meged at earthlink.net (Eddie Hargreaves) Date: Mon Sep 10 11:51:19 2007 Subject: [X4U] Any way to hide a user account? In-Reply-To: <4a8dd8cc0709091859g227e2872h2fc65e9d6a9f1d0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/9/07 6:59 PM, Joshua Hough wrote: > Is there an easy way temporarily hide a whole account, so that the user's name > does not appear in /Users/ or in the login window at startup? By "easy," I > mean that this could be switched on and off as needed. From soyjourner at mac.com Mon Sep 10 13:03:49 2007 From: soyjourner at mac.com (Joshua Hough) Date: Mon Sep 10 13:03:55 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? Message-ID: <4a8dd8cc0709101303p4a36c690k68c0e272cd4a74d4@mail.gmail.com> Gmail offers POP access to your inbox, but I can't make Apple Mail see the messages. I turned on POP in Gmail's settings, and configured the POP account correctly in Apple Mail (latest version, OSX Tiger), following Gmail's setup specs exactly. Gmail's settings window says "Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 11/14/04." Apple Mail logs into Gmail successfully, but says there's no new mail. Which is not true, of course. Anything I'm missing? Thanks, -Josh From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Sep 10 13:07:58 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Sep 10 13:08:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: <4a8dd8cc0709101303p4a36c690k68c0e272cd4a74d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 9/10/07 3:03 PM, Joshua Hough wrote: > Gmail offers POP access to your inbox, but I can't make Apple Mail see > the messages. I turned on POP in Gmail's settings, and configured the > POP account correctly in Apple Mail (latest version, OSX Tiger), > following Gmail's setup specs exactly. Gmail's settings window says > "Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 11/14/04." > Apple Mail logs into Gmail successfully, but says there's no new > mail. Which is not true, of course. Anything I'm missing? I can get Mail to "see" four of my Gmail accounts, but there are two that it will not pick up, no way, no how. For those two accounts, I use Thunderbird, which picks them up just fine. I can't explain it, but, you're not alone. ~Linda From macmonster at myrealbox.com Mon Sep 10 13:30:40 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Mon Sep 10 13:31:00 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10 Sep 2007, at 21:07, Linda wrote: > On 9/10/07 3:03 PM, Joshua Hough wrote: > >> Gmail offers POP access to your inbox, but I can't make Apple Mail >> see >> the messages. I turned on POP in Gmail's settings, and configured >> the >> POP account correctly in Apple Mail (latest version, OSX Tiger), >> following Gmail's setup specs exactly. Gmail's settings window says >> "Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since >> 11/14/04." >> Apple Mail logs into Gmail successfully, but says there's no new >> mail. Which is not true, of course. Anything I'm missing? > > I can get Mail to "see" four of my Gmail accounts, but there are > two that it > will not pick up, no way, no how. For those two accounts, I use > Thunderbird, > which picks them up just fine. I can't explain it, but, you're not > alone. What a lucky coincidence you posted this today. Thank you. I'm setting up at the moment a new laptop for a customer of mine who is moving out of town & giving up their ADSL connection; they're planning to use a GPRS Vodaphone card for the next year whilst they look for a permanent residence on the South Coast, but Vodaphone doesn't provide them an email address. I set up Gmail today and it seemed quite quirky - like not all messages came through. I'll keep monitoring the next week or two and consider perhaps moving them to Yahoo. Stroller. From choffman at eclimb.net Tue Sep 11 13:21:59 2007 From: choffman at eclimb.net (Craig Hoffman) Date: Tue Sep 11 13:22:13 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: <4a8dd8cc0709101303p4a36c690k68c0e272cd4a74d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a8dd8cc0709101303p4a36c690k68c0e272cd4a74d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Perhaps this may help -- http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588 _________________________ Craig Hoffman choffman@eclimb.net iChat / AIM / ICQ: m0untaind0g _________________________ On Sep 10, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Joshua Hough wrote: > Gmail offers POP access to your inbox, but I can't make Apple Mail see > the messages. I turned on POP in Gmail's settings, and configured the > POP account correctly in Apple Mail (latest version, OSX Tiger), > following Gmail's setup specs exactly. Gmail's settings window says > "Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 11/14/04." > Apple Mail logs into Gmail successfully, but says there's no new > mail. Which is not true, of course. Anything I'm missing? > Thanks, > -Josh > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From macmonster at myrealbox.com Tue Sep 11 13:49:42 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Tue Sep 11 13:50:17 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: References: <4a8dd8cc0709101303p4a36c690k68c0e272cd4a74d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <732CCE9C-F20C-4BBB-84EA-AB59893544AD@myrealbox.com> I'm pretty sure that only affects Gmail's web interface - it is indeed a well-known issue that is often pointed out to new-joiners on mailing lists. ;) I'm pretty sure that if you only download your gmail messages via pop - myself I _never_ read the mail to my yahoo or gmail accounts via the web-interface and the Linux box in the cupboard fetches all messages from various ISPs & providers by POP3 - then messages posted by yourself to mailing lists are not affected as this tech note describes. Stroller. On 11 Sep 2007, at 21:21, Craig Hoffman wrote: > Perhaps this may help -- > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588 > >> Gmail offers POP access to your inbox, but I can't make Apple Mail >> see >> the messages. I turned on POP in Gmail's settings, and configured >> the >> POP account correctly in Apple Mail (latest version, OSX Tiger), >> following Gmail's setup specs exactly. Gmail's settings window says >> "Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since >> 11/14/04." >> Apple Mail logs into Gmail successfully, but says there's no new >> mail. Which is not true, of course. Anything I'm missing? From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Sep 11 13:55:05 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Sep 11 13:55:41 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: <732CCE9C-F20C-4BBB-84EA-AB59893544AD@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: On 9/11/07 3:49 PM, Stroller wrote: > I'm pretty sure that if you only download your gmail messages via pop > - myself I _never_ read the mail to my yahoo or gmail accounts via > the web-interface and the Linux box in the cupboard fetches all > messages from various ISPs & providers by POP3 - then messages posted > by yourself to mailing lists are not affected as this tech note > describes. If that's the case, I've not figured out how to get it to work that way. I never read Gmail on the Web unless I'm on vacation, but I never get my own messages back in Mail or Thunderbird on any group in which I participate with a Gmail account. peace, Linda From macmonster at myrealbox.com Tue Sep 11 17:01:38 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Tue Sep 11 17:01:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <416D74FC-4D13-4A62-BE0B-07B07BA8671E@myrealbox.com> On 11 Sep 2007, at 21:55, Linda wrote: > On 9/11/07 3:49 PM, Stroller wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that if you only download your gmail messages via pop >> - myself I _never_ read the mail to my yahoo or gmail accounts via >> the web-interface and the Linux box in the cupboard fetches all >> messages from various ISPs & providers by POP3 - then messages posted >> by yourself to mailing lists are not affected as this tech note >> describes. > > If that's the case, I've not figured out how to get it to work that > way. I > never read Gmail on the Web unless I'm on vacation, but I never get > my own > messages back in Mail or Thunderbird on any group in which I > participate > with a Gmail account. Oh, please excuse me. I do have Gmail accounts but barely use them at all, nevermind for mailing lists. Stroller. From fxn at hashref.com Tue Sep 11 17:22:18 2007 From: fxn at hashref.com (Xavier Noria) Date: Tue Sep 11 17:22:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sep 11, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Linda wrote: > On 9/11/07 3:49 PM, Stroller wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure that if you only download your gmail messages via pop >> - myself I _never_ read the mail to my yahoo or gmail accounts via >> the web-interface and the Linux box in the cupboard fetches all >> messages from various ISPs & providers by POP3 - then messages posted >> by yourself to mailing lists are not affected as this tech note >> describes. > > If that's the case, I've not figured out how to get it to work that > way. I > never read Gmail on the Web unless I'm on vacation, but I never get > my own > messages back in Mail or Thunderbird on any group in which I > participate > with a Gmail account. Unfortunately (in my view) it's just the way it works: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py? answer=6588&query=mailing+list&topic=&type=f Gmail help forums have some posts about it, the only thing you can do is to ask to have the behaviour changed: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=suggest I did. -- fxn From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Thu Sep 13 15:58:43 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Thu Sep 13 15:58:56 2007 Subject: [X4U] M$ almighty Message-ID: This week, some Windows users have noted that, even though they had the Auto-update option turned off, Microsoft accessed their system and made modifications, according to Windows Secrets on Thursday. Paul Moortgat From netkat at comcast.net Thu Sep 13 16:04:58 2007 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Thu Sep 13 16:05:10 2007 Subject: [X4U] M$ almighty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85e39d6eb0220286c0b11852372d2535@comcast.net> that is just plain creepy. the wife has an xp box and disconnects the ethernet cable and powers down when she's not using it. we don't trust m$ any further than we could throw Mt. Rainier. nk On Sep 13, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > This week, some Windows users have noted that, even though > they had the Auto-update > option turned off, Microsoft accessed their system and made > modifications, > according to Windows Secrets on Thursday. > > > Paul Moortgat From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Fri Sep 14 00:02:42 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Fri Sep 14 00:02:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] M$ almighty In-Reply-To: <85e39d6eb0220286c0b11852372d2535@comcast.net> References: <85e39d6eb0220286c0b11852372d2535@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48E963D9-73E5-4F41-8206-E340F06EBF2E@pandora.be> But now and then she's connected to the net, and then what (else) happens? Paul Moortgat On 14 Sep 2007, at 01:04, nk wrote: > that is just plain creepy. > > the wife has an xp box and disconnects the ethernet cable and > powers down when she's not using it. we don't trust m$ any further > than we could throw Mt. Rainier. > > nk > > > > On Sep 13, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> This week, some Windows users have noted that, even though >> they had the Auto-update >> option turned off, Microsoft accessed their system and made >> modifications, >> according to Windows Secrets on Thursday. >> >> >> Paul Moortgat From mike at lvnv.com Sat Sep 15 06:26:19 2007 From: mike at lvnv.com (M K) Date: Sat Sep 15 06:26:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone retrieved Gmail msgs with Apple Mail via POP??? In-Reply-To: <4a8dd8cc0709101303p4a36c690k68c0e272cd4a74d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a8dd8cc0709101303p4a36c690k68c0e272cd4a74d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <169EEE03-756A-41A6-AC85-753936B33461@lvnv.com> Have you gotten this to work because I see that you posted a while ago. I've had it working for months and it's really helpful to me... On Sep 10, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Joshua Hough wrote: > Gmail offers POP access to your inbox, but I can't make Apple Mail see > the messages. I turned on POP in Gmail's settings, and configured the > POP account correctly in Apple Mail (latest version, OSX Tiger), > following Gmail's setup specs exactly. Gmail's settings window says > "Status: POP is enabled for all mail that has arrived since 11/14/04." > Apple Mail logs into Gmail successfully, but says there's no new > mail. Which is not true, of course. Anything I'm missing? > Thanks, > -Josh > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2460 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070915/2ed4d3e2/smime.bin From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Mon Sep 17 03:31:25 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Mon Sep 17 03:31:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] Word 3 Message-ID: <55BFF983-BF1A-40CF-AF25-A631504C5BEA@pandora.be> Someone needs to open a Word 3 document. None of his programs will open it. Not even MacLink. How can he open it? Paul Moortgat From macsys at mac.com Mon Sep 17 04:33:38 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (wilkinw) Date: Mon Sep 17 04:33:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] Word 3 In-Reply-To: <55BFF983-BF1A-40CF-AF25-A631504C5BEA@pandora.be> References: <55BFF983-BF1A-40CF-AF25-A631504C5BEA@pandora.be> Message-ID: <91147906-99FB-4CEE-8D01-78511E94F2E4@mac.com> SimpleText, or Textedit won't open it? Usually these apps will open just about anything text based, you will loose formating but it usually works. Maybe the file is actually damaged? On Sep 17, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Someone needs to open a Word 3 document. None of his programs will > open it. Not even MacLink. > How can he open it? > > Paul Moortgat > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From mac at kapellos.com Mon Sep 17 05:19:53 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Mon Sep 17 05:20:01 2007 Subject: [X4U] export itunes library as html Message-ID: <8E9B9F23-AFAD-4A22-B176-493D8FDF0829@kapellos.com> hi i'd like to be able to export my itunes library as an html file (or any other format). i've done some googling and all i've found are 2 pieces of software: iTunes Publisher 4.1.1 (last updated in 2004), iTunes to HTML 1.0 (last updated in 2005) anybody know of anything more recent? thank you alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.10 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.10 :: From jessup at san.rr.com Mon Sep 17 05:28:10 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Mon Sep 17 05:28:38 2007 Subject: [X4U] export itunes library as html In-Reply-To: <8E9B9F23-AFAD-4A22-B176-493D8FDF0829@kapellos.com> References: <8E9B9F23-AFAD-4A22-B176-493D8FDF0829@kapellos.com> Message-ID: At 2:19 PM +0200 9/17/07, alexandre wrote: >hi >i'd like to be able to export my itunes library as an html file (or >any other format). > >i've done some googling and all i've found are 2 pieces of software: > >iTunes Publisher 4.1.1 (last updated in 2004), iTunes to HTML 1.0 >(last updated in 2005) > >anybody know of anything more recent? Here's one: I haven't tried it, but it's free and it's from 2007. Daly ---------------------- From explorerguy at mac.com Mon Sep 17 06:18:51 2007 From: explorerguy at mac.com (K. Jerry Smith) Date: Mon Sep 17 06:18:55 2007 Subject: [X4U] Word 3 In-Reply-To: <91147906-99FB-4CEE-8D01-78511E94F2E4@mac.com> References: <55BFF983-BF1A-40CF-AF25-A631504C5BEA@pandora.be> <91147906-99FB-4CEE-8D01-78511E94F2E4@mac.com> Message-ID: On Sep 17, 2007, at 7:33 AM, wilkinw wrote: > SimpleText, or Textedit won't open it? Usually these apps will open > just about anything text based, you will loose formating but it > usually works. Maybe the file is actually damaged? > On Sep 17, 2007, at 6:31 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> Someone needs to open a Word 3 document. None of his programs >> will open it. Not even MacLink. >> How can he open it? >> >> Paul Moortgat I think Pages in iWork will open them. Try the trial. HTH, Jerry From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Sep 17 06:37:12 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Sep 17 06:37:33 2007 Subject: [X4U] Word 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/17/07 8:18 AM, K. Jerry Smith wrote: > I think Pages in iWork will open them. Try the trial. And I've never met a doc -- not even a corrupted Entourage database -- that BBEdit couldn't open to at least scavenge text out of. Is there any chance these are old Microsoft Works 3.0 files rather than Word files? ~Linda From roduncan at telus.net Mon Sep 17 11:20:11 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Mon Sep 17 11:20:29 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading G3 iMac to G4 iMac - Easiest way? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: First the backstory. Just purchased a replacement iMac for my son. He has been using an older G3 iMac DV SE. When the sound card started acting up decided it was time to upgrade. Upgraded this iMac to Airport status years ago and decided to salvage the still-in-demand Airport card from it. As a result, purchased an 800Mhz 15" flat panel iMac which was the last, before the Extreme card, to use this earlier Airport card. The new iMac came with more RAM, larger 60GB HD and a Superdrive coupled with the great little Harmon Kardon Apple Pro Speakers ready to rock his world. His older iMac is running 10.3.9. The newer iMac has 10.4.10 installed. I would like to keep all his applications, preferences installed and do the easiest transfer possible. I thought I would SuperDuper his machine to the newer iMac and then upgrade it to 10.4.10 status. After re-thinking this doubt it will work with the different system requirements needed by the newer iMac. I am now thinking it would be best to completely re-install Tiger into the newer iMac and go the firewire computer transfer route during installation. Then upgrade Tiger to the latest version. Obviously, a number of his applications will require updating. Is there an easier way? Suggestions. Thanks, Rod From roduncan at telus.net Mon Sep 17 15:43:39 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Mon Sep 17 15:43:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading G3 iMac to G4 iMac - Easiest way? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Answering my own query. Completely forgot about the Migration Assistant available in the Utilities. I have only used it during a system install. Currently running it... Rod >First the backstory. Just purchased a replacement iMac for my son. >He has been using an older G3 iMac DV SE. When the sound card >started acting up decided it was time to upgrade. Upgraded this iMac >to Airport status years ago and decided to salvage the >still-in-demand Airport card from it. As a result, purchased an >800Mhz 15" flat panel iMac which was the last, before the Extreme >card, to use this earlier Airport card. The new iMac came with more >RAM, larger 60GB HD and a Superdrive coupled with the great little >Harmon Kardon Apple Pro Speakers ready to rock his world. > >His older iMac is running 10.3.9. The newer iMac has 10.4.10 >installed. I would like to keep all his applications, preferences >installed and do the easiest transfer possible. I thought I would >SuperDuper his machine to the newer iMac and then upgrade it to >10.4.10 status. After re-thinking this doubt it will work with the >different system requirements needed by the newer iMac. I am now >thinking it would be best to completely re-install Tiger into the >newer iMac and go the firewire computer transfer route during >installation. Then upgrade Tiger to the latest version. Obviously, a >number of his applications will require updating. Is there an easier >way? Suggestions. > >Thanks, >Rod From michaelelliott at mac.com Mon Sep 17 15:43:05 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Mon Sep 17 15:47:09 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading G3 iMac to G4 iMac - Easiest way? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just did the same thing with a G4 iMac I got on eBay for $US150 (replaced the hard drive which was bad-- much easier than I thought it would be. ) Fresh install of Tiger and then FireWire transfer via the Migration Assistant. Probably the easiest way that you'll have. -------------------- If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my iPhone. iPhone mail www.apple.com/iPhone On Sep 17, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Rod Duncan wrote: > First the backstory. Just purchased a replacement iMac for my son. > He has been using an older G3 iMac DV SE. When the sound card > started acting up decided it was time to upgrade. Upgraded this iMac > to Airport status years ago and decided to salvage the still-in- > demand Airport card from it. As a result, purchased an 800Mhz 15" > flat panel iMac which was the last, before the Extreme card, to use > this earlier Airport card. The new iMac came with more RAM, larger > 60GB HD and a Superdrive coupled with the great little Harmon Kardon > Apple Pro Speakers ready to rock his world. > > His older iMac is running 10.3.9. The newer iMac has 10.4.10 > installed. I would like to keep all his applications, preferences > installed and do the easiest transfer possible. I thought I would > SuperDuper his machine to the newer iMac and then upgrade it to > 10.4.10 status. After re-thinking this doubt it will work with the > different system requirements needed by the newer iMac. I am now > thinking it would be best to completely re-install Tiger into the > newer iMac and go the firewire computer transfer route during > installation. Then upgrade Tiger to the latest version. Obviously, a > number of his applications will require updating. Is there an easier > way? Suggestions. > > Thanks, > Rod > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From colin at eleventhvolume.com Mon Sep 17 23:15:44 2007 From: colin at eleventhvolume.com (eleventhvolume) Date: Mon Sep 17 23:15:58 2007 Subject: [X4U] Anyone with experience of an Airport Express? Message-ID: I finally got round to purchasing and setting up an Airport Express recently so I could improve upon the tinny sound of my MacBook Pro speakers. I've had a mixed experience so far. In fact this very moment, I'm feeling pretty frustrated. My setup is very simple: I'm sitting on a sofa, on the floor beneath the sofa is my NetGear wireless modem through which I get smooth and pretty fast broadband access. Signal strength is all four bars. Five feet away from me across the room I can see the constant green light of the Airport Express from which snakes a new lead into my amplifier. I'm playing an mp3 via iTunes and the sound keeps dropping every 20 to 40 secs. I've quit and restarted iTunes a number of times. I last rebooted my machine 24 hours ago and I'm running the latest version of the OS. I wondered whether anyone had any advice? Thanks in advance. All the best, Colin. http://www.eleventhvolume.com http://www.musicinterfaces.com http://www.hardformat.org From macmonster at myrealbox.com Tue Sep 18 03:09:15 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Tue Sep 18 03:09:53 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading G3 iMac to G4 iMac - Easiest way? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FF8606F-8A12-4FAE-89FA-7493DBF4F6B1@myrealbox.com> On 17 Sep 2007, at 19:20, Rod Duncan wrote: > > His older iMac is running 10.3.9. The newer iMac has 10.4.10 > installed. I would like to keep all his applications, preferences > installed and do the easiest transfer possible ... I am now > thinking it would be best to completely re-install Tiger into the > newer iMac and go the firewire computer transfer route during > installation. Then upgrade Tiger to the latest version. Obviously, > a number of his applications will require updating. Is there an > easier way? Suggestions. The firewire method is pretty straightforward. I wouldn't upgrade Apple, Adobe or Microsoft apps this way, but I think most anything else in Applications can be dragged across to the new machine & should then work perfectly. Likewise his User folder - I tend to copy the whole contents of ~/Library/Preferences & ~/Library/Mail and then anything else (addressbook &c) selectively Actually, on my own systems I tend to go through each file in ~/ Library/Preferences and only copy those pertaining to programs I still use - no need to copy the preferences of programs I tried out only once and then never touched again - but for customers I just copy the whole lot; depends how much time you want to spend. Addressbook and iCal schedules I copy by exporting from within the .app - I'm pretty sure that in both cases this gives a single file which can easily be transferred - and then importing on the new machine Copy the iTunes library into place BEFORE running iTunes for the first time on the new system. I would also run Software Update before starting iTunes for the first time. Same goes with iPhoto. It doesn't matter about the order of copying data / upgrading iApps, but I tend to try to get all that done first and try to avoid using any programs on the new machine until those are completed. It's quite satisfying to open Mail for the first time, find all messages intact and watch as it connects to the correct mail sever & downloads new emails. If you have a lot of passwords saved on the old system then you should google copying the keychain across - that way you won't even be asked for the POP3 password to your mail account. (You will get a lot of "this program has been upgraded - do you want to allow it to access your keychain" messages, but those are OK and soon go away). Finally: when starting a new thread on this list, please DON'T reply to a previous message, delete the contents & subject line and start again. When starting a new thread you may start with an existing message, but in this case you should right-click on the line which says "To: x4u@listserver.themacintoshguy.com" and choose "new message". This will ensure that all mail clients recognise your thread as a new one, and not part of the existing "Word 3" discussion. Stroller. From roduncan at telus.net Tue Sep 18 16:47:49 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Tue Sep 18 16:48:02 2007 Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... Message-ID: As an earlier post suggested, was in the middle of transferring/upgrading an older G3 iMac to a slightly newer G4 800Mhz flat panel iMac. The transfer and upgrade of user and applications went perfectly. Just used the migration assistant and pulled over everything. One of the reasons we chose this machine, aside from the good price, was the ability to pull the existing Airport card from the G3 iMac. This was the last flat panel iMac to use the original Airport card. The card had and contined to work flawlessly in the older G3 machine. Until installing into the G4 iMac, that is. The Airport card in the newer iMac doesn't have *any* range. The machine sees the Airport card but doesn't show any signal strength. It will occasionally show the network but when attempted to access gives the dialogue continued join and to try again. Physically placed the G4 computer in the room beside the Apple base station (original model base station) and was able to connect via Airport. Sitting right next to the base station it shows full signal strength. Take it even a room away and it shows nothing. Took the flat panel iMac apart to make sure the card and, most importantly, the antenna was properly seated. It appeared to be. Followed Apple's instructions on removing and static grounding on installation so don't believe it was damaged on installation. All the pins are good. I have three other Macs all Airport connected to the same base station and a couple of them buried far away in the basement. So signal strength from the base station and any interference isn't a network issue. (2.1GHz Intel iMac, Upgraded Cube & PPC G4 Powerbook 1.67GHz) I am about to pull the card from G4 iMac and re-install back into the G3 iMac to see if it continues to work with the network. The older G3 had 10.3.9 installed. The newer iMac has 10.4.10. Are there any issues with the original Airport cards and 10.4.10? I'm wondering if the Airport card is missing anything software wise? I ran the Apple software update and nothing Airport needed updating. Is it possible the Airport software in the iMac has become corrupted or maybe do I need a firmware update? I've looked at the Apple site and haven't seen anything. My upgraded Cube (1.2GHz G4 - 10.4.10) has no issues and is running an original card on this same wireless network and much further away from the base station, too. Is it an antenna problem with the G4 iMac? Could software on the G4 iMac not be upgraded properly for this card? What would I need to remove and install, if anything? I've multiple zapped the PRAM, run Applejack etc. Nada. Aside from this wireless issue the G4, Superdrive iMac is running perfectly. Any suggestions MUCH appreciated. Thanks, Rod From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Sep 18 16:56:35 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Sep 18 16:56:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/18/07 6:47 PM, Rod Duncan wrote: > Until installing into the G4 iMac, that is. > > The Airport card in the newer iMac doesn't have *any* range. This is the obvious question, please do not take offense: When you installed it in the iMac, and connected the antenna to the card, you didn't pull it from the other end or anything, right? It looks like it could be really hard to get the antenna in all the way. Does the card work still if you put it back into the other iMac? From ColgateList at cox.net Tue Sep 18 18:27:22 2007 From: ColgateList at cox.net (Jim Colgate) Date: Tue Sep 18 18:27:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would suggest putting your upgraded Cube beside your new iMac and play card switching between the two. Does the Cube work when placed next to the iMac? Does the problem follow the card? Is the problem confined to the iMac? This should give you an indication as to the location of the problem. HTH, Jim > From: Rod Duncan > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." > > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:47:49 -0700 > To: > Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... > > My upgraded Cube (1.2GHz G4 - 10.4.10) has no > issues and is running an original card on this same wireless network > and much further away from the base station, too. From roduncan at telus.net Tue Sep 18 21:50:12 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Tue Sep 18 21:50:24 2007 Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >On 9/18/07 6:47 PM, Rod Duncan wrote: > >> Until installing into the G4 iMac, that is. >> >> The Airport card in the newer iMac doesn't have *any* range. > >This is the obvious question, please do not take offense: When you installed >it in the iMac, and connected the antenna to the card, you didn't pull it >from the other end or anything, right? No offense taken. Appreciate you taking the time to respond. Not sure what you meant by pulling from the other end. I fully installed the G4 iMac antenna plug into the airport card antenna input. The card works still works properly when I re-installed it back into the older G3 iMac. Since the G4 iMac didn't have an Airport card installed when it originally was updated to Tiger decided to fully scrub the drive and re-install Tiger from scratch. I'm hoping something was missed since the card wasn't there during its original installation. Or maybe there are a couple of airport kext files and it isn't reading from the proper one. Shot in the dark. Dunno... Have also read of some strange anomalies regarding original Airport cards. Whereas one would work in one computer but not in another. Insert a completely different card and it would work. ?? Hope this isn't my experience. Will keep you posted. Rod > > > >It looks like it could be really hard to get the antenna in all the way. > >Does the card work still if you put it back into the other iMac? > > >_______________________________________________ >X4U mailing list >X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > >Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price >http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From roduncan at telus.net Tue Sep 18 21:52:08 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Tue Sep 18 21:52:21 2007 Subject: [X4U] Upgrading G3 iMac to G4 iMac - Easiest way? In-Reply-To: <2FF8606F-8A12-4FAE-89FA-7493DBF4F6B1@myrealbox.com> References: <2FF8606F-8A12-4FAE-89FA-7493DBF4F6B1@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: >On 17 Sep 2007, at 19:20, Rod Duncan wrote: >> >>His older iMac is running 10.3.9. The newer iMac has 10.4.10 >>installed. I would like to keep all his applications, preferences >>installed and do the easiest transfer possible ... I am now >>thinking it would be best to completely re-install Tiger into the >>newer iMac and go the firewire computer transfer route during >>installation. Then upgrade Tiger to the latest version. Obviously, >>a number of his applications will require updating. Is there an >>easier way? Suggestions. > >Finally: when starting a new thread on this list, please DON'T reply >to a previous message, delete the contents & subject line and start >again. When starting a new thread you may start with an existing >message, but in this case you should right-click on the line which >says "To: x4u@listserver.themacintoshguy.com" and choose "new >message". This will ensure that all mail clients recognise your >thread as a new one, and not part of the existing "Word 3" >discussion. > >Stroller. Thanks for taking the time to give such a reasoned response. Did not know deleting a subject line in an attempt to create a new thread still had it tagged to the original. Will watch that in the future. Thanks for the heads up. Rod From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Sep 18 22:05:45 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Sep 18 22:05:56 2007 Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/18/07 11:50 PM, Rod Duncan wrote: > Not sure > what you meant by pulling from the other end. I meant, pulling it loose from whatever other parts of the iMac it's attached to that assist in its antenna-like capabilities. I don't know the attachment points in that version of the iMac. Good luck with this, and keep us posted. I have an original Airport card in a TiBook 400 that works sporadically. It stopped working altogether for six months or so, and I bought a wireless PCMCIA card for it. Used that for a few months and took it out to insert the USB 2.0 PCMCIA card to do some scanning, and noticed that the computer was still on the Internet -- the internal card had started working again after its vacation. Weird stuff. From roduncan at telus.net Tue Sep 18 22:45:23 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Tue Sep 18 22:45:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Good luck with this, and keep us posted. I have an original Airport card in >a TiBook 400 that works sporadically. It stopped working altogether for six >months or so, and I bought a wireless PCMCIA card for it. Used that for a >few months and took it out to insert the USB 2.0 PCMCIA card to do some >scanning, and noticed that the computer was still on the Internet -- the >internal card had started working again after its vacation. Weird stuff. > Still busy wrestling with it. The complete scrub of the HD and re-install of Tiger didn't fix it. Again placed the G4 iMac directly beside the base station and it works with full bars airport strength. Take it even 20 feet away and it doesn't work. Faulty anntenna in the iMac? You said it - weird stuff. From macmonster at myrealbox.com Wed Sep 19 03:39:57 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Wed Sep 19 03:40:11 2007 Subject: [X4U] G4 iMac Airport woes... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A280F74-C292-4957-89B4-4CDB734DE834@myrealbox.com> On 19 Sep 2007, at 00:47, Rod Duncan wrote: > ... > Is it an antenna problem with the G4 iMac? Sounds like it. > Could software on the G4 iMac not be upgraded properly for this card? I doubt very much that that would cause the symptoms you describe. Stroller From RussellMcGaha at mac.com Wed Sep 19 04:33:09 2007 From: RussellMcGaha at mac.com (Russell McGaha) Date: Wed Sep 19 04:33:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] Bellsouth DSL Message-ID: Folks; Anyone had any trouble using / installing Bellsouth DSL? TIA Russell From tim_collier at bellsouth.net Wed Sep 19 05:37:34 2007 From: tim_collier at bellsouth.net (Tim Collier) Date: Wed Sep 19 05:37:42 2007 Subject: [X4U] Bellsouth DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4920B4CE-00EA-40D0-A962-B674C9AB8018@bellsouth.net> On Sep 19, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Russell McGaha wrote: > Folks; > Anyone had any trouble using / installing Bellsouth DSL? > > TIA > Russell I have BellSouth DSL here in Miami. Never have any problems with it. What is the problem that you're experiencing? -- Tim Collier MacBook Pro 2.33 gig http://www.timcolliermiami.com/ From lists at mac.com Wed Sep 19 07:51:30 2007 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Wed Sep 19 07:50:32 2007 Subject: [X4U] Bellsouth DSL In-Reply-To: <4920B4CE-00EA-40D0-A962-B674C9AB8018@bellsouth.net> References: <4920B4CE-00EA-40D0-A962-B674C9AB8018@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On Sep 19, 2007, at 8:37 AM, Tim Collier wrote: > On Sep 19, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Russell McGaha wrote: > >> Folks; >> Anyone had any trouble using / installing Bellsouth DSL? >> >> TIA >> Russell > > I have BellSouth DSL here in Miami. Never have any problems with > it. What is the problem that you're experiencing? I too have BellSouth DSL in Miami and the service was horrible back when they first rolled it out in the 1990's, but it's been pretty reliable for the past five or six years. The service will drop out for a few hours at a time, several times per year that I notice. It's rare to be disconnected for more than 24 hours. Installation is the easiest part. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070919/55fa4e60/attachment-0001.html From RussellMcGaha at mac.com Wed Sep 19 09:30:56 2007 From: RussellMcGaha at mac.com (Russell McGaha) Date: Wed Sep 19 09:31:08 2007 Subject: [X4U] Bellsouth DSL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0FBB6E8D-CC22-4A08-8286-1BE56AA7746C@mac.com> Guy(s); I guess it WOULD have been helpful to tell you what troubles I'm having. :) I was stopped in the install wizard at "checking connection", it would not go past asking foe my username & PW (also the red internet light would not come on). I was on the phone with support for about an hour last night, with the only result being ... "waite a few hours and try again; and if you still can't get on the Internet, call us back". I tried again this morning with much the same result (didn't have time to go thru tech support this AM); so I thought I'd ask here and see if anyone else was having such problems. Russell McGaha NE Alabama On Sep 19, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Russell McGaha wrote: > Folks; > Anyone had any trouble using / installing Bellsouth DSL? > > TIA > Russell > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From BauldryWC at appstate.edu Wed Sep 19 09:16:14 2007 From: BauldryWC at appstate.edu (Bill Bauldry) Date: Wed Sep 19 09:40:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] Re: X4U Digest, Vol 37, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <20070919145039.DEAE3164E7BE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070919145039.DEAE3164E7BE@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <72FAE363-8D7D-4DE4-B1EA-CA085EF301C1@appstate.edu> Hola Group, I've had BellSouth DSL for a couple of years in rural NC; Boone - home of Appalachian State. I routinely have faster connectivity at home than I do in my office at the U. It's been very reliable, too. Bill _____________________________________ Bill Bauldry Professor of Mathematics Appalachian State U _____________________________________ On Sep 19, 2007, at 10:50 AM, x4u- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > I too have BellSouth DSL in Miami and the service was horrible back > when they first rolled it out in the 1990's, but it's been pretty > reliable for the past five or six years. The service will drop out > for a few hours at a time, several times per year that I notice. It's > rare to be disconnected for more than 24 hours. Installation is the > easiest part. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070919/6ba65914/attachment.html From lists at mac.com Wed Sep 19 10:12:20 2007 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Wed Sep 19 10:12:30 2007 Subject: [X4U] Bellsouth DSL In-Reply-To: <0FBB6E8D-CC22-4A08-8286-1BE56AA7746C@mac.com> References: <0FBB6E8D-CC22-4A08-8286-1BE56AA7746C@mac.com> Message-ID: <6A6C972F-F452-4916-9D68-CBCC2649AF3C@mac.com> I had my DSL installed around ten years ago. Back then, the techs were not trained in installing for Mac. There was a web site someplace supported by Mac users who explained step-by-step the installation process for the various RBOC's, including BellSouth. It was very simple, even easier than installing on Windows. I don't remember the URL. Then, BellSouth went to PPPoE. Again, BellSouth couldn't help us, so Mac users helped each other. There was a web site that walked me through that transition too. If you don't find your answer on this list, then it must still be out there somewhere on the web. On Sep 19, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Russell McGaha wrote: > I guess it WOULD have been helpful to tell you what troubles I'm > having. :) I was stopped in the install wizard at "checking > connection", it would not go past asking foe my username & PW (also > the red internet light would not come on). I was on the phone with > support for about an hour last night, with the only result > being ... "waite a few hours and try again; and if you still can't > get on the Internet, call us back". I tried again this morning > with much the same result (didn't have time to go thru tech support > this AM); so I thought I'd ask here and see if anyone else was > having such problems. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070919/dd183985/attachment.html From teddi at alohabroadband.com Thu Sep 20 00:43:53 2007 From: teddi at alohabroadband.com (Teddi Pomaika'i Stransky) Date: Thu Sep 20 01:03:06 2007 Subject: [X4U] firmware update creates the fan from hell Message-ID: Aloha ... A month or more ago I innocently installed a firmware update from Apple. Since then, if I put my Pro to sleep, the fan goes berserk when it wakes up. It takes off like a jet engine and roars so loudly you can't even talk over it; this goes on for a full two minutes before it starts to calm down. The first time it happened I thought a water truck was having problems getting up my hill ... it honestly sounds like a diesel engine straining up a grade. The only way to get it back to "full normal" is to reboot; on its own it quiets down to conversational levels, but not to its normal near-silent state. Other people have reported this problem, but Apple is ignoring it. I am now to the point of being afraid to install any more of Apple's "updates". I can't believe that having the fan run this hard and fast is not harming it; under no circumstances would it ever normally run that way. Has anyone out there heard of a viable solution? I can, of course, shut down the machine totally every night and re-start it every morning, but I would really like to have "sleep" back without all the racket! Is it possible to "uninstall" a firmware upgrade? Mac Pro, OS X 10.4.10 2 x 2.66 GHs Dual-Core Intel Xeon 4GB 667 MHz DDR-FB-DIMM SMC version 1.7f10 Teddi Stransky, Kahuku, Ka'u, Hawaii -- *-.,,.-*-;-*-.,,.-*-;-*-.,,.-*-;-*-.,,.-*-;-*-.,,.-*-;-*-.,,.-*-;-*-.,,.-*-;-*-.,,.-* ***E-mail is packed by intellectual weight, not by volume.*** ***Some settling may have occurred during transmission*** From lalicata at alum.rpi.edu Thu Sep 20 01:26:31 2007 From: lalicata at alum.rpi.edu (LA Licata) Date: Thu Sep 20 01:46:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] SaFari 3.0.3, RSS Feeders, and Article length Message-ID: <75527E68-CE89-4749-BCF7-024FFBB4C1F7@alum.rpi.edu> Dear List, Running 17' PB G4, 10.4.10, and Safari Beta 3.0.3 I have a list of RSS news sites that I visit and prefer that the "article length" slider be all the way to the left. For a long time, Safari "remembered" this, but now, it has forgotten it. I have tried the following: With cookies enabled, opened all RSS feeds, set the slider to the left, and quit Safari. With cookies enabled, opened all RSS feeds, set the slider to the left, closed all tabs and quit Safari Did the above w/o cookies enabled. results the same. All tabs reopen with the slider to the right. Is there a fix? Lee From macmonster at myrealbox.com Thu Sep 20 02:50:38 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Thu Sep 20 02:50:51 2007 Subject: [X4U] firmware update creates the fan from hell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <469BEF6D-E6E4-4103-997C-07D431631D61@myrealbox.com> On 20 Sep 2007, at 08:43, Teddi Pomaika'i Stransky wrote: > ... > A month or more ago I innocently installed a firmware update from > Apple. Since then, if I put my Pro to sleep, the fan goes berserk > when it wakes up. It takes off like a jet engine and roars so > loudly you can't even talk over it; this goes on for a full two > minutes before it starts to calm down. The first time it happened I > thought a water truck was having problems getting up my hill ... it > honestly sounds like a diesel engine straining up a grade. > > The only way to get it back to "full normal" is to reboot; on its > own it quiets down to conversational levels, but not to its normal > near-silent state. > .... > Is it possible to "uninstall" a firmware upgrade? I would probably be reluctant to risk it. Were I to Google and find postings by other folks saying they had done so successfully then I'd go for it, but I bet this isn't common practice (in fact, I'll bet Apple's firmware updater would just say "sorry, later firmware already installed"). Workarounds: pmset -g >> my_previous_settings.txt then: sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 1 or: sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 3 Not sure which of these will work or is best. Have a fiddle. Stroller. From mac at kapellos.com Thu Sep 20 03:22:19 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Thu Sep 20 03:22:55 2007 Subject: [X4U] export itunes library as html In-Reply-To: References: <8E9B9F23-AFAD-4A22-B176-493D8FDF0829@kapellos.com> Message-ID: <60E6F682-AC3B-4201-9338-69891D440916@kapellos.com> thanks, daly. the software is really good, maybe too good for my needs! after having played around with it, i've come to realise that i don't need the sophistication of an ?-la-itunes interface, but more a list view (album or artist) of my music collection. regards alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.10 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.10 :: On 17 sept. 07, at 14:28, Daly Jessup wrote: > At 2:19 PM +0200 9/17/07, alexandre wrote: >> hi >> i'd like to be able to export my itunes library as an html file >> (or any other format). >> >> i've done some googling and all i've found are 2 pieces of software: >> >> iTunes Publisher 4.1.1 (last updated in 2004), iTunes to HTML 1.0 >> (last updated in 2005) >> >> anybody know of anything more recent? > > Here's one: > I haven't tried it, but it's free and it's from 2007. From kirkmc at mac.com Thu Sep 20 03:23:58 2007 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Thu Sep 20 03:24:14 2007 Subject: [X4U] export itunes library as html In-Reply-To: <60E6F682-AC3B-4201-9338-69891D440916@kapellos.com> References: <8E9B9F23-AFAD-4A22-B176-493D8FDF0829@kapellos.com> <60E6F682-AC3B-4201-9338-69891D440916@kapellos.com> Message-ID: <67980368-C903-4434-BC2D-405E793AA729@mac.com> On Sep 20, 2007, at 12:22 PM, alexandre wrote: > the software is really good, maybe too good for my needs! after > having played around with it, i've come to realise that i don't > need the sophistication of an ?-la-itunes interface, but more a > list view (album or artist) of my music collection. Have you looked at iTunes' printing options? You can create lists like that, and save them as PDFs. Kirk Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From mac at kapellos.com Thu Sep 20 05:07:55 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Thu Sep 20 05:08:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] export itunes library as html In-Reply-To: <67980368-C903-4434-BC2D-405E793AA729@mac.com> References: <8E9B9F23-AFAD-4A22-B176-493D8FDF0829@kapellos.com> <60E6F682-AC3B-4201-9338-69891D440916@kapellos.com> <67980368-C903-4434-BC2D-405E793AA729@mac.com> Message-ID: <53A90FB3-78B7-47B1-B19E-4D5C70043E01@kapellos.com> On 20 sept. 07, at 12:23, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > > On Sep 20, 2007, at 12:22 PM, alexandre wrote: > >> the software is really good, maybe too good for my needs! after >> having played around with it, i've come to realise that i don't >> need the sophistication of an ?-la-itunes interface, but more a >> list view (album or artist) of my music collection. > > Have you looked at iTunes' printing options? You can create lists > like that, and save them as PDFs. > itunes has printing options?!? i'll have to look into that?! thanks? alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.10 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.10 :: From kirkmc at mac.com Thu Sep 20 05:44:35 2007 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Thu Sep 20 05:44:47 2007 Subject: [X4U] export itunes library as html In-Reply-To: <53A90FB3-78B7-47B1-B19E-4D5C70043E01@kapellos.com> References: <8E9B9F23-AFAD-4A22-B176-493D8FDF0829@kapellos.com> <60E6F682-AC3B-4201-9338-69891D440916@kapellos.com> <67980368-C903-4434-BC2D-405E793AA729@mac.com> <53A90FB3-78B7-47B1-B19E-4D5C70043E01@kapellos.com> Message-ID: <2237907B-5601-46BA-B4D0-78F3B200AD82@mac.com> On Sep 20, 2007, at 2:07 PM, alexandre wrote: >>> the software is really good, maybe too good for my needs! after >>> having played around with it, i've come to realise that i don't >>> need the sophistication of an ?-la-itunes interface, but more a >>> list view (album or artist) of my music collection. >> >> Have you looked at iTunes' printing options? You can create lists >> like that, and save them as PDFs. >> > > itunes has printing options?!? i'll have to look into that?! thanks? Have a look at this article: http://playlistmag.com/secrets/2006/08/septplaylist/index.php There have been some minor changes since then. Kirk Author of: The Mac OS X Command Line: Unix Under the Hood http://www.mcelhearn.com/unix.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From kansast at mac.com Thu Sep 20 09:51:45 2007 From: kansast at mac.com (Kansas Territory) Date: Thu Sep 20 09:51:59 2007 Subject: [X4U] intel iMac and windows xp and wirless network Message-ID: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> O.k. So I got this house full of macs, but the wife is needing access to a windowz computer. If I install something like windows XP professional onto this intel iMac, Guess I'd be looking at just booting directly into windows.. would the wireless networking still work ? or would I need an ethernet cable and go that route.. OR does networking even work with this scenario ? I ran windows once before many years ago :) think I can get around etc, and have folks here locally I could talk to about windows etc.. I'm just wondering if the networking is going to work. Oh, and how about the built in video cam corder etc.. would that work with like AOL IM ?? Kansast From abailey at semo.edu Thu Sep 20 09:55:56 2007 From: abailey at semo.edu (Anthony Bailey) Date: Thu Sep 20 09:56:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] intel iMac and windows xp and wirless network In-Reply-To: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello, after running Bootcamp, installing windoze, and then installing the drivers, which is no problem at all using the driver CD you burn with Bootcamp, it'll work just fine. It all just works. I've done several here on campus with mostly no problems. Tony On 9/20/07 11:51 AM, "Kansas Territory" wrote: > O.k. So I got this house full of macs, but the wife is needing access > to a windowz computer. > > If I install something like windows XP professional onto this intel > iMac, Guess I'd be looking at just booting directly into windows.. > would the wireless networking still work ? or would I need an > ethernet cable and go that route.. OR does networking even work with > this scenario ? > > I ran windows once before many years ago :) think I can get around > etc, and have folks here locally I could talk to about windows etc.. > I'm just wondering if the networking is going to work. > Oh, and how about the built in video cam corder etc.. would that > work with like AOL IM ?? > > Kansast > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal ----------- this is coming to you from Anthony Bailey ?? Southeast Missouri State University, Cape Girardeau, Missouri??63701 From macsys at mac.com Thu Sep 20 09:59:03 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (wilkinw) Date: Thu Sep 20 09:59:27 2007 Subject: [X4U] intel iMac and windows xp and wirless network In-Reply-To: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> References: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> Message-ID: Parallels, VMWare, and Bootcamp will all allow you to do this no problem, no extra wires. On Sep 20, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Kansas Territory wrote: > O.k. So I got this house full of macs, but the wife is needing > access to a windowz computer. > > If I install something like windows XP professional onto this > intel iMac, Guess I'd be looking at just booting directly into > windows.. would the wireless networking still work ? or would I > need an ethernet cable and go that route.. OR does networking even > work with this scenario ? > > I ran windows once before many years ago :) think I can get around > etc, and have folks here locally I could talk to about windows > etc.. I'm just wondering if the networking is going to work. > Oh, and how about the built in video cam corder etc.. would that > work with like AOL IM ?? > > Kansast > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From roduncan at telus.net Thu Sep 20 13:16:27 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Thu Sep 20 13:16:39 2007 Subject: [X4U] Quicktime Plug-in 7.2 Loading Problem in Safari Message-ID: I'm getting this error message in 2.04 Safari. * The page "XXXXXXXXXX" attempted to load an Internet plug-in named "QuickTime Plug-In 7.2", but the plug-in failed to load successfully. * When I go into Opera 9.23 the page loads the Quicktime 7.2 plug-in and works properly. Strange - isn't Opera using the same library Plug-in path as Safari? (/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/) Quicktime Pro 7.2 is working properly by itself. Suggestions? (Sidenote: Did try the Beta Safari but it kept doing weird things like trying to reload pages when not told to. Finally got fed up and went back to 2.04.) Going to cross-post this to MacDV mailing list too. Thanks, Rod (AI Powerbook PPC 1.67Ghz - 10.4.10) From jessup at san.rr.com Thu Sep 20 15:48:35 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Thu Sep 20 15:49:18 2007 Subject: [X4U] intel iMac and windows xp and wirless network In-Reply-To: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> References: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> Message-ID: At 11:51 AM -0500 9/20/07, Kansas Territory wrote: >O.k. So I got this house full of macs, but the wife is needing >access to a windowz computer. > >If I install something like windows XP professional onto this intel >iMac, Guess I'd be looking at just booting directly into windows.. >would the wireless networking still work ? or would I need an >ethernet cable and go that route.. OR does networking even work >with this scenario ? > >I ran windows once before many years ago :) think I can get around >etc, and have folks here locally I could talk to about windows >etc.. >I'm just wondering if the networking is going to work. >Oh, and how about the built in video cam corder etc.. would that >work with like AOL IM ?? I have had Windows XP on my Intel iMac in two ways: through Parallels and through VMWare Fusion. On my earlier G5, I had Virtual PC. My computers are always connected wirelessly to our home network. In all cases, local networking and web access have been seamless, just automatic. I don't recall Parallels, but VMWare Fusion actively offers to hook up my iSight camera. It's a very good deal. I wish I had bought it when it was $40 (half price). Daly ---------------------- From mac at kapellos.com Fri Sep 21 02:30:20 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Fri Sep 21 02:30:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] intel iMac and windows xp and wirless network In-Reply-To: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> References: <1093C740-77F1-4D1F-B874-E0120028B4A0@mac.com> Message-ID: kansast? wireless networking works but: in xp, when you try to join your network, it'll ask you for your password. in my case, my password was a name (like "mozambique"). xp wouldn't accept this. go to system preferences > network. show "airport". then , in the list of available networks, select the one you want to join, and click "edit" below. from the window that opens, copy your password and paste it into a textedit document. transfer this doc over to your windows machine and copy-paste the password when trying to join your network? worked for me? maybe somebody can enlighten us/me on why windows won't accept a regular password and instead needs some hexadecimal-or-something version of it. or maybe i'm missing something?! regards alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.10 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.10 :: From bob.virzi at verizon.com Fri Sep 21 13:39:41 2007 From: bob.virzi at verizon.com (Bob Virzi) Date: Fri Sep 21 13:46:28 2007 Subject: [X4U] firmware update creates the fan from hell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had to do a firmware roll back once, and it was not pretty. I forget the exact steps, but it was pretty close to installing an older version of the OS and then applying all the updates to get me to the one just before the one that broke. I was a half day affair. I had a problem once with google desktop causing my fan to go berserk. You should probably run the system monitor to see what may be running to get the machine so hot (if it is actually hot). I find that iStat Nano is also a great little widget for monitoring temps, fan speeds, etc. Maybe it will give you some ideas as to where the problem is. -Bob On 9/20/07 3:43 AM, "Teddi Pomaika'i Stransky" wrote: > Aloha ... > > A month or more ago I innocently installed a firmware update from > Apple. Since then, if I put my Pro to sleep, the fan goes berserk > when it wakes up. It takes off like a jet engine and roars so loudly > you can't even talk over it; this goes on for a full two minutes > before it starts to calm down. The first time it happened I thought a > water truck was having problems getting up my hill ... it honestly > sounds like a diesel engine straining up a grade. > > The only way to get it back to "full normal" is to reboot; on its own > it quiets down to conversational levels, but not to its normal > near-silent state. > > Other people have reported this problem, but Apple is ignoring it. I > am now to the point of being afraid to install any more of Apple's > "updates". I can't believe that having the fan run this hard and fast > is not harming it; under no circumstances would it ever normally run > that way. > > Has anyone out there heard of a viable solution? I can, of course, > shut down the machine totally every night and re-start it every > morning, but I would really like to have "sleep" back without all the > racket! Is it possible to "uninstall" a firmware upgrade? > > Mac Pro, OS X 10.4.10 > 2 x 2.66 GHs Dual-Core Intel Xeon > 4GB 667 MHz DDR-FB-DIMM > SMC version 1.7f10 > > Teddi Stransky, Kahuku, Ka'u, Hawaii ------------------------------------------- Bob Virzi From dancurr at frontiernet.net Sun Sep 23 12:43:58 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Sun Sep 23 12:44:07 2007 Subject: [X4U] Mac & Ringtones Message-ID: <46F6C1FE.5050500@frontiernet.net> Hello, I have an MDD dualie running 10.4.9 and am wondering if there is an application that will let me upload new ringtones from my computer sound files to the i850 phone and how do I do that? If not. does anyone know how to move a sound file on the phone to ringtones ... even my 15 year old daughter can NOT figure it out. TIA, Dan Currie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070923/4a0e7783/attachment.html From alsan at speakeasy.net Sun Sep 23 13:24:45 2007 From: alsan at speakeasy.net (Al Grappone) Date: Sun Sep 23 13:25:45 2007 Subject: [X4U] Mac & Ringtones In-Reply-To: <46F6C1FE.5050500@frontiernet.net> References: <46F6C1FE.5050500@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <630F3206-3FA5-4481-A024-76603029CC7B@speakeasy.net> On Sep 23, 2007, at 12:43, Dan A Currie wrote: > If not. does anyone know how to move a sound file on the phone to > ringtones ... even my 15 year old daughter can NOT figure it out. I had the same problem and received this tip. I kept playing with this thing and finally got it to work. I have that on my phone now. I did so many tries I hope I can remember how I got there. I started by going to mixxer,com. Selecting create your own free Ringtones. After I got that set up with user name,pin, I logged in and selected the song I uploaded. On that page I selected send to my phone. all downhill from there. I hope this helps you get set up. Let me know if I can be of further help. From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Sun Sep 23 16:04:53 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Sun Sep 23 16:05:12 2007 Subject: [X4U] Save Youtube Message-ID: <6FB0E13F-B143-4B43-8A81-BAD9A6B4F177@pandora.be> To save a complete Youtube film install Perian and see also WATCH on that site to know what to do. It's free. It will create a .flv file which one can open in QT and then save as a .mov file. One can just add .flv after the downloaded file. No need for Com-I. Paul Moortgat From mcclernan1 at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 17:32:59 2007 From: mcclernan1 at comcast.net (John McClernan) Date: Mon Sep 24 17:33:17 2007 Subject: [X4U] Save Youtube In-Reply-To: <6FB0E13F-B143-4B43-8A81-BAD9A6B4F177@pandora.be> References: <6FB0E13F-B143-4B43-8A81-BAD9A6B4F177@pandora.be> Message-ID: <68F55E88-E245-4196-A19B-1F7A748961CD@comcast.net> You can also download videos from DailyMotion and Glumbert the same way. In fact, it will download from those two already in .flv format. You won't have to add the suffix. Cheers, John On Sep 23, 2007, at 7:04 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > To save a complete Youtube film install Perian > and see also WATCH on that site to know > what to do. > It's free. It will create a .flv file which one can open in QT and > then save as a .mov file. One can just add .flv after the > downloaded file. > Paul Moortgat From macmonster at myrealbox.com Wed Sep 26 05:57:30 2007 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Wed Sep 26 05:57:41 2007 Subject: [X4U] Save Youtube In-Reply-To: <6FB0E13F-B143-4B43-8A81-BAD9A6B4F177@pandora.be> References: <6FB0E13F-B143-4B43-8A81-BAD9A6B4F177@pandora.be> Message-ID: Opening my mailbox and seeing the subject line of this thread, I'm unable to resist from replying: "I didn't know YouTube was endangered". Stroller. From mac at kapellos.com Wed Sep 26 06:06:41 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Wed Sep 26 06:06:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] HD upgrade for a 24" imac (late 2006) Message-ID: hi i'd like to upgrade the 250 gb hard drive in my imac, to a 750gb one. are bigger drives hotter? should i be worried about heat? i've googled a bit and haven't found anything stating that it's a problem. and i seem to remember that a 750gb drive was a BTO on this machine. but again, i'm not sure. any suggestions on the type and/or brand of drive i should be getting? cache, rpm, etc. (i'm not into video?) thanks in advance alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.10 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.10 :: From jessup at san.rr.com Wed Sep 26 06:23:16 2007 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Wed Sep 26 06:23:44 2007 Subject: [X4U] HD upgrade for a 24" imac (late 2006) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 3:06 PM +0200 9/26/07, alexandre wrote: >hi >i'd like to upgrade the 250 gb hard drive in my imac, to a 750gb one. > >are bigger drives hotter? should i be worried >about heat? i've googled a bit and haven't found >anything stating that it's a problem. and i seem >to remember that a 750gb drive was a BTO on this >machine. but again, i'm not sure. > >any suggestions on the type and/or brand of >drive i should be getting? cache, rpm, etc. (i'm >not into video?) I have a 24" Intel iMac with a 750 GB drive in it. The iMac runs all the time (never sleeps, except the display), and is almost the same temperature as the desk it sits on, barely warm. I can't figure out what brand of drive is in the iMac. I do know that I have been happy with Seagate drives, just regular 7200 RPM 750 GB SATA drives I have bought for an external enclosure. Here's an example: Daly ---------------------- From mac at kapellos.com Wed Sep 26 07:05:58 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Wed Sep 26 07:06:03 2007 Subject: [X4U] HD upgrade for a 24" imac (late 2006) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C7E8D77-DAAD-4440-80D5-A1378C5322E6@kapellos.com> On 26 sept. 07, at 15:23, Daly Jessup wrote: > At 3:06 PM +0200 9/26/07, alexandre wrote: >> hi >> i'd like to upgrade the 250 gb hard drive in my imac, to a 750gb one. >> >> are bigger drives hotter? should i be worried about heat? i've >> googled a bit and haven't found anything stating that it's a >> problem. and i seem to remember that a 750gb drive was a BTO on >> this machine. but again, i'm not sure. >> >> any suggestions on the type and/or brand of drive i should be >> getting? cache, rpm, etc. (i'm not into video?) > > I have a 24" Intel iMac with a 750 GB drive in it. The iMac runs > all the time (never sleeps, except the display), and is almost the > same temperature as the desk it sits on, barely warm. > > I can't figure out what brand of drive is in the iMac. I do know > that I have been happy with Seagate drives, just regular 7200 RPM > 750 GB SATA drives I have bought for an external enclosure. Here's > an example: > > > Daly > thanks daly. i done a little more research in the mean time, i'll probably be getting a 7200rpm 16 or 32mb cache. i haven't been able to come across a good upgrade guide though. my usual source, ifixit.com (i've upgraded countless ibooks and powerbooks with their guides) doesn't do imacs? the only site i've found is: http://home.comcast.net/~woojo/DFFA53A0- F23D-4541-9015-481FD3B6532E/iMac_Disassembly.html regards alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.10 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.10 :: From XPressoBean at mac.com Wed Sep 26 07:34:39 2007 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Wed Sep 26 07:35:16 2007 Subject: [X4U] HD upgrade for a 24" imac (late 2006) In-Reply-To: <1C7E8D77-DAAD-4440-80D5-A1378C5322E6@kapellos.com> Message-ID: On 9/26/07 9:05 AM, alexandre wrote: > i haven't been able to come across a good upgrade guide though. my > usual source, ifixit.com (i've upgraded countless ibooks and > powerbooks with their guides) doesn't do imacs? You might take a peek at xlr8yourmac.com. They are my favorite site for all kinds of upgrades. offers this link: but I don't know if that's your model iMac or not. From mastermacchief at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 10:42:12 2007 From: mastermacchief at gmail.com (Peter Apokotos) Date: Thu Sep 27 10:42:26 2007 Subject: [X4U] From Gianfranco Lanci (President of Acer) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24C52FB8-BEC7-4391-98AE-0657D3022E00@gmail.com> On September 03, 2007 , at 3:55 P.M., Paul Moortgat wrote: > The entire industry is disappointed by Windows Vista. I don't > think that someone has bought a new PC specifically for Vista. > Vista's stability is certainly a problem. > > This is written in MacFormat a UK magazine. Now you hear it from > someone who knows. > > Paul Moortgat Paul, I would say he is a little late in admitting there is a problem with Windows. Sadly as far back as 3.11 they should have known when they should have compared Mac OS and Windows 3.x side by side back then. Peter http://apokotos.com http://knightrider.org http://macmariner.com From michaelelliott at mac.com Thu Sep 27 16:24:58 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Thu Sep 27 16:25:14 2007 Subject: [X4U] HD upgrade for a 24" imac (late 2006) In-Reply-To: <1C7E8D77-DAAD-4440-80D5-A1378C5322E6@kapellos.com> References: <1C7E8D77-DAAD-4440-80D5-A1378C5322E6@kapellos.com> Message-ID: I would recommend searching the archives at www.xlr8yourmac.com. Its a great site. I would look for a link myself, but am not able to do detailed searches at the moment. -------------------- If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my iPhone. iPhone mail www.apple.com/iPhone > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> From x4u at listserver.themacintoshguy.com Thu Sep 27 16:28:01 2007 From: x4u at listserver.themacintoshguy.com (Viagra.com Inc) Date: Thu Sep 27 16:29:49 2007 Subject: [X4U] RE: September 70% OFF Message-ID: <20070927112803.29977.qmail@jilali> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20070927/deb3b033/attachment.html From baltwo at san.rr.com Thu Sep 27 16:56:38 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Thu Sep 27 16:56:50 2007 Subject: [X4U] HD upgrade for a 24" imac (late 2006) In-Reply-To: <20070927232521.DBDEE1719095@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070927232521.DBDEE1719095@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 09/27/07, alexandre wrote: > > i haven't been able to come across a good upgrade guide though. my > usual source, ifixit.com (i've upgraded countless ibooks and > powerbooks with their guides) doesn't do imacs. Start with ; however, note it doesn't address HD replacement. From mac at kapellos.com Fri Sep 28 04:52:01 2007 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Fri Sep 28 04:52:37 2007 Subject: [X4U] HD upgrade for a 24" imac (late 2006) In-Reply-To: References: <20070927232521.DBDEE1719095@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 28 sept. 07, at 01:56, John Baltutis wrote: > On 09/27/07, alexandre wrote: >> >> i haven't been able to come across a good upgrade guide though. my >> usual source, ifixit.com (i've upgraded countless ibooks and >> powerbooks with their guides) doesn't do imacs. > > Start with ; however, > note it > doesn't address HD replacement. indeed there is nothing there about HD replacement. thanks anyway alexandre :: 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.10 :: :: 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.10 :: From lstnmt at bresnan.net Fri Sep 28 08:19:53 2007 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Fri Sep 28 08:20:03 2007 Subject: [X4U] (no subject) Message-ID: <07962A75-9DB0-4558-AAA8-10BFFADD3283@bresnan.net> When I click on the "Network" icon in the side bar of my finder window I get this mess