From Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net Fri Feb 1 04:32:25 2008 From: Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net (Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net) Date: Fri Feb 1 04:34:41 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Verizon Wireless Internet Service In-Reply-To: <20080201072824.75F08ABC256@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080201072824.75F08ABC256@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: No, I'm talking about a consumer trial-agreement. A decision to stay-or-go is made within days. Not a life-of-contract guarantee-of-service. Jerry K wrote: > You mean an SLA (Service Level Agreement)? That's typically > done at a business level, and there are typically fees > associated with an SLA. > > Are you doing something like this with your provider on a > personal/home level? > > > Technophobic_Tom wrote: >> Geoffrey wrote: >> >>> Verizon offers a 5 Gig plan...1.6 to 1 m.b. down load.... >>> Just wondered if anyone had used Verizons Broadband >>> service for internet use and had any feed back on it. >>> >>> If you try it, make sure you get an agreement such that >>> if it doesn't perform to some criteria, which you >>> specify, they must void the contract and return all your >>> money. It can be so arranged. From tabdave at ca.rr.com Fri Feb 1 08:19:44 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Fri Feb 1 09:07:39 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Verizon Wireless Internet Service In-Reply-To: References: <20080131163530.DA056A9FA2D@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <218CAD80-C72B-4C1A-A396-66FC9C6942D1@ca.rr.com> Technically, you can simply wright whatever you want into the contract and sign it. Chances are the salseperson won't say anything. Nobody will probably ever review it, but it's still a legally binding document. On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net wrote: > Geoffrey wrote: > >> Verizon offers a 5 Gig plan...1.6 to 1 m.b. down load.... >> Just wondered if anyone had used Verizons Broadband >> service for internet use and had any feed back on it. > > If you try it, make sure you get an agreement such that if it > doesn't perform to some criteria, which you specify, they must void > the contract and return all your money. It can be so arranged. > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From jleo at projectsupport.com Fri Feb 1 09:19:41 2008 From: jleo at projectsupport.com (Jesse Leo) Date: Fri Feb 1 09:20:12 2008 Subject: [X4U] MB Pro - 2 monitors? In-Reply-To: <20080201072824.B8FACABC25F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Hello all, Does anyone know if it's possible to drive two monitors from a Macbook Pro? I'm assuming it would not be possible out of the box, but are there any additional adapters that could make this happen? Any info or suggestions would be great. Thanks, Jesse From shawn at yourmaclifeshow.com Fri Feb 1 09:25:28 2008 From: shawn at yourmaclifeshow.com (Shawn King) Date: Fri Feb 1 09:25:57 2008 Subject: [X4U] MB Pro - 2 monitors? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/1/08 12:19 PM, "Jesse Leo" wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anyone know if it's possible to drive two monitors from a Macbook Pro? > I'm assuming it would not be possible out of the box, but are there any > additional adapters that could make this happen? > > Any info or suggestions would be great. TripleHead2Go: -- Shawn King Host/Executive Producer Your Mac Life http://www.yourmaclifeshow.com From geoffrey at alaska.net Fri Feb 1 15:19:31 2008 From: geoffrey at alaska.net (Geoffrey Loeffler) Date: Fri Feb 1 15:20:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Verizon Wireless Internet Service In-Reply-To: References: <20080201072824.75F08ABC256@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <2E7F883A-036A-40C1-9F3C-5F23DEE8EFD5@alaska.net> Verzon gives you 30 day "test drive" if you do not like the service you get to opt out. Geoffrey Loeffler geoffrey@alaska.net May God make the path smooth before you On Feb 1, 2008, at 4:32 AM, Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net wrote: > No, I'm talking about a consumer trial-agreement. A decision > to stay-or-go is made within days. Not a life-of-contract > guarantee-of-service. > > Jerry K wrote: > >> You mean an SLA (Service Level Agreement)? That's typically >> done at a business level, and there are typically fees >> associated with an SLA. >> >> Are you doing something like this with your provider on a >> personal/home level? >> >> >> Technophobic_Tom wrote: >>> Geoffrey wrote: >>> >>>> Verizon offers a 5 Gig plan...1.6 to 1 m.b. down load.... >>>> Just wondered if anyone had used Verizons Broadband >>>> service for internet use and had any feed back on it. >>>> >>>> If you try it, make sure you get an agreement such that >>>> if it doesn't perform to some criteria, which you >>>> specify, they must void the contract and return all your >>>> money. It can be so arranged. > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Sat Feb 2 03:56:31 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Sat Feb 2 03:56:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] A leopard pleasure ? Message-ID: I open Mail and sometimes I don't have a connection to download my mails. In the mean time I can work the websites. After a while I've a connection for my mails, read them and answer them and then suddenly I lost connection again. Like now. This mail has to be send when I've that connection again. Leopard is a pleasure to have. I don't loose provider connection, just mail connection. Paul Moortgat From lstnmt at bresnan.net Sat Feb 2 04:49:45 2008 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Sat Feb 2 04:50:41 2008 Subject: [X4U] A leopard pleasure ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84E82270-2C40-418C-91DE-79956758819D@bresnan.net> Do you have web access to your mail account? if so, the next time you 'loose connection' try connecting via the web and see you can access the account directly. Your mail server may be causing the problem and this would check for that case. Jens Jens Selvig ...Lost in Montana... On Feb 2, 2008, at 4:56 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > I open Mail and sometimes I don't have a connection to download my > mails. In the mean time I can work the websites. > After a while I've a connection for my mails, read them and answer > them and then suddenly I lost connection again. Like now. > This mail has to be send when I've that connection again. Leopard > is a pleasure to have. > I don't loose provider connection, just mail connection. From jamesrob at sonic.net Sat Feb 2 06:39:54 2008 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Sat Feb 2 06:41:11 2008 Subject: [X4U] Weird Finder/Keyboard Bug (Leopard) Message-ID: Yesterday I was rearranging things on my new Mac Pro and discovered that I couldn't create new Folders with the keyboard , nor could I replace the name of such new folders after creating them by using the menu and highlighting the name with the mouse. In other words, the mouse worked, keyboard didn't. In other applications, the keyboard worked fine, so I didn't think it was USB related, but I was running a Windows XP machine under VMWare Fusion at the time, so I suspended it and quit from the Fusion app. Keyboard still wouldn't work in Finder. I unplugged the keyboard, plugged it back in; no change. So, I force-quit the Finder, and immediately the keyboard worked again. OS X 10.5.1. Weird. Jim Robertson -- From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Feb 2 06:58:36 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Feb 2 06:59:18 2008 Subject: [X4U] Copy installed Leopard In-Reply-To: <304D8496-B65D-4683-8372-A9FDFC6DD065@pandora.be> References: <20080129223149.7F23FA4CFB2@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <304D8496-B65D-4683-8372-A9FDFC6DD065@pandora.be> Message-ID: At 12:51 PM +0100, 1/30/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: >It's on a G5/2.5 with Leopard 10.5.1 on the external. The drives >are both 500 GB. >Because it didn't worked I even installed the latest update over the >existing OS on the internal. > >I tried to copy an external ATA drive containing leopard to an >internal SATA drive to have Leopard there. >It didn't worked. The internal one wouldn't startup. It took 5 >hours to copy and I never got a warning or error. The salient details would include: What disk were you started up from? One of these 2 or a 3rd drive? What OS in on the 'internal'? How is the internal formatted? (GUID or APM?) -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -- Aristotle <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Feb 2 07:11:55 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Feb 2 07:12:22 2008 Subject: [X4U] Copy installed Leopard Message-ID: At 12:51 PM +0100, 1/30/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: (APM is the pre Intel style of fomat. GUID is the Intel style of formatting a disk. These are buried options in Disk Utility's Erase capability.) How is the internal formatted? (GUID or APM?) 1. OS X won't install on an APM drive if you try the install from an Intel Mac. 2. OS X won't install on a GUID drive if you try to install from a PPC Mac. 3. OS X won't boot on an PPC Mac from a GUID drive. 4. You can boot either a PPC or an Intel Mac from an APM drive (keeping in mind 1 and 2), so you have to install from a PPC Mac to get an APM volume that could boot both. And, you need to have an OS X version on that partition that would be acceptable on both PPC and Intel, of course. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti You can never underestimate the stupidity of the general public. -- Scott Adams, The Dilbert Future <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From michaelelliott at mac.com Sat Feb 2 07:29:18 2008 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sat Feb 2 07:30:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] Copy installed Leopard In-Reply-To: <737D25D2-282A-4A19-9438-FFB46B69AFB8@pandora.be> References: <20080129223149.7F23FA4CFB2@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <737D25D2-282A-4A19-9438-FFB46B69AFB8@pandora.be> Message-ID: Paul Just confirming, since I am coming late to his thread, but you're sure that you reformatted the drive with the correct partition map? Since Intel machines were introduced, its now possible to accidentally use the "wrong" partition map. If you do, an install of MacOS will go fine but it will never boot, even if you're copying a bootable image from another disk. -------------------- If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my phone. iPhone mail www.apple.com/iPhone On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Last night I started with the OSX DVD, formatted the internal HD > (because I couldn't format the HD from Disk Utility) and used CCC, > tried to restart with the internal HD with the same NO GO result. > > Paul Moortgat > > On 30 Jan 2008, at 01:19, John Baltutis wrote: > >> On 01/29/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: >>> >>> I tried to copy my external ATA disk with Leopard installed on it to >>> an internal SATA disk via CCC because SuperDuper isn't ready for >>> Leopard. >>> It didn't work. CCC can't do it. Any other program that will do >>> it? >> >> That would be a first. Post your problem to the CCC Troubleshooting >> forum at >> and provide the >> sailent details >> about machine, OS, and configuration. We'll see if we can fix the >> problem, >> since I've routinely cloned from external HDs to insternal ones and >> vice versa >> using Leopard w/o issue. >> >> --Bombich Forums moderator > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From michaelelliott at mac.com Sat Feb 2 07:38:06 2008 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sat Feb 2 07:38:42 2008 Subject: [X4U] Weird Finder/Keyboard Bug (Leopard) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jim If it happens again, try selecting your Displays menu item and then changing the resolution of your monitor and then back. There is a Leopard bug that some of us are getting where the Desktop freezes and you can't click or type in Finder. Almost as if you're working with a screenshot of your Desktop. Changing the resolution helps fix it. -------------------- If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my phone. iPhone mail www.apple.com/iPhone On Feb 2, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Jim Robertson wrote: > Yesterday I was rearranging things on my new Mac Pro and discovered > that I > couldn't create new Folders with the keyboard , nor > could I > replace the name of such new folders after > creating them > by using the menu and highlighting the name with the mouse. In other > words, > the mouse worked, keyboard didn't. > > In other applications, the keyboard worked fine, so I didn't think > it was > USB related, but I was running a Windows XP machine under VMWare > Fusion at > the time, so I suspended it and quit from the Fusion app. Keyboard > still > wouldn't work in Finder. I unplugged the keyboard, plugged it back > in; no > change. > > So, I force-quit the Finder, and immediately the keyboard worked > again. > > OS X 10.5.1. > > Weird. > > Jim Robertson > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Feb 2 07:40:42 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Feb 2 07:41:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Leopard, one more problem In-Reply-To: <5980B439-992C-493B-AA15-FEDF33F21F98@mac.com> References: <20080128092556.466F4A04B9B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <5980B439-992C-493B-AA15-FEDF33F21F98@mac.com> Message-ID: At 11:13 AM -0500, 1/28/08, Jon Warms wrote: >But there have been bumps along the road: >1. Open dialog boxes open with the focus in the sidebar, so typing >the first letters of a filename is an exercise in futility without >first using a mouse. I've just tried this in Eudora, Safari, and Word. In every case, the focus was in the first column of my column view. >2. Save and Open dialog boxes don't remember the file listing >sequence (date or name). Hmmm. You must prefer List View. I've not seen anyone use that option. >4. In my home network, I can only mount users, not drive root >levels. Tiger would let me mount the server's hard drive; Leopard >will only mount the username. Set the access permissions to change this. The new behavior is more in line with appropriate security. >5. Browser behavior has changed, requiring using an alternate >Verizon DNS to fix. This would be Verizon's desire to acquire more ad revenue. >6. Leopard has broken my Microsoft keyboard; specifically, the >numeric keypad no longer works. Leopard broke it? Or it does not follow the Apple API guidelines? >7. Leopard has sickened the numeric overlay pad on my MacBook. The >num-lock key and the pad no longer work in Excel 2004. Num Lock works on my MacBook Pro with Excel 2004. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti If you ain't got nothing, you've got nothing to lose. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From lstnmt at bresnan.net Sat Feb 2 07:54:32 2008 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Sat Feb 2 07:54:53 2008 Subject: [X4U] iCal or ToDo email question Message-ID: I have a friend who would like me to remind him of some upcoming events. I set up an event in iCal for this purpose but apparently I can only set up an email to myself for the notification. I guess I could build a rule in Mail.app to handle this by auto replying to a specific subject line created with the Mail event notification, but there must be a better way to accomplish my mission. The ToDo items didn't seem to have any facility for this either. Hopefully this problem is just that I have a closed mind to the solution! Jens Jens Selvig ...Lost in Montana... From rashton at telus.net Sat Feb 2 09:04:11 2008 From: rashton at telus.net (Robert) Date: Sat Feb 2 09:04:28 2008 Subject: [X4U] iCal or ToDo email question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9AF3FAFF-47D5-424F-B869-414117DBF5AB@telus.net> What I did was put the wifes work email address in my account in the address book. This gives me my address and hers in ical. Stupid way of doing it but it works. Bob On 2-Feb-08, at 7:54 AM, Jens Selvig wrote: > I have a friend who would like me to remind him of some upcoming > events. I set up an event in iCal for this purpose but apparently I > can only set up an email to myself for the notification. I guess I > could build a rule in Mail.app to handle this by auto replying to a > specific subject line created with the Mail event notification, but > there must be a better way to accomplish my mission. > > The ToDo items didn't seem to have any facility for this either. > > Hopefully this problem is just that I have a closed mind to the > solution! > > Jens > > Jens Selvig > ...Lost in Montana... > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Sat Feb 2 09:28:01 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Sat Feb 2 09:28:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] Copy installed Leopard In-Reply-To: References: <20080129223149.7F23FA4CFB2@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <304D8496-B65D-4683-8372-A9FDFC6DD065@pandora.be> Message-ID: <8B684574-2B46-4D3C-BD54-40BD7E9DE52F@pandora.be> To have Leopard I startup with the external HD formatted in APM. I also can startup from an internal one also APM. I never had heard about GUID till now. The second internal now is completely empty waiting till Superduper is ready for Leopard. Soon I hope. And I'm also waiting for DW. Paul Moortgat On 02 Feb 2008, at 15:58, Robert Ameeti wrote: > At 12:51 PM +0100, 1/30/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> It's on a G5/2.5 with Leopard 10.5.1 on the external. The drives >> are both 500 GB. >> Because it didn't worked I even installed the latest update over >> the existing OS on the internal. >> >> I tried to copy an external ATA drive containing leopard to an >> internal SATA drive to have Leopard there. >> It didn't worked. The internal one wouldn't startup. It took 5 >> hours to copy and I never got a warning or error. > > The salient details would include: What disk were you started up > from? One of these 2 or a 3rd drive? > > What OS in on the 'internal'? How is the internal formatted? (GUID > or APM?) > -- > > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > Robert Ameeti From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Sat Feb 2 09:34:42 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Sat Feb 2 09:34:50 2008 Subject: [X4U] Copy installed Leopard In-Reply-To: References: <20080129223149.7F23FA4CFB2@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <737D25D2-282A-4A19-9438-FFB46B69AFB8@pandora.be> Message-ID: <7F0F1074-5C88-4451-A141-5188FE2F3D65@pandora.be> Michael, Because I formatted the second internal HD from the install DVD I now can format that empty HD as "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)" which I always have done on this G5. And how do you "accidentally" format the wrong partition? Paul Moortgat On 02 Feb 2008, at 16:29, Michael Elliott wrote: > Paul > Just confirming, since I am coming late to his thread, but you're > sure that you reformatted the drive with the correct partition map? > Since Intel machines were introduced, its now possible to > accidentally use the "wrong" partition map. If you do, an install of > MacOS will go fine but it will never boot, even if you're copying a > bootable image from another disk. > > -------------------- > If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my phone. > > iPhone mail > www.apple.com/iPhone > > On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Paul Moortgat > wrote: > >> Last night I started with the OSX DVD, formatted the internal HD >> (because I couldn't format the HD from Disk Utility) and used CCC, >> tried to restart with the internal HD with the same NO GO result. >> >> Paul Moortgat >> >> On 30 Jan 2008, at 01:19, John Baltutis wrote: >> >>> On 01/29/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: >>>> >>>> I tried to copy my external ATA disk with Leopard installed on it >>>> to >>>> an internal SATA disk via CCC because SuperDuper isn't ready for >>>> Leopard. >>>> It didn't work. CCC can't do it. Any other program that will do >>>> it? >>> >>> That would be a first. Post your problem to the CCC >>> Troubleshooting forum at >>> and provide the >>> sailent details >>> about machine, OS, and configuration. We'll see if we can fix the >>> problem, >>> since I've routinely cloned from external HDs to insternal ones >>> and vice versa >>> using Leopard w/o issue. >>> >>> --Bombich Forums moderator >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > From robertmacleay at mac.com Sat Feb 2 09:49:43 2008 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Sat Feb 2 09:49:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] MB Pro - 2 monitors? In-Reply-To: <20080202153100.1CF90AFF76D@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:19:41 -0500, Jesse Leo asked: > Does anyone know if it's possible to drive two monitors from a Macbook Pro? > I'm assuming it would not be possible out of the box, but are there any > additional adapters that could make this happen? Yes indeedy, and you may not even need an adapter, depending on your monitor. I regularly switch back and forth between three monitor setups: MBP (Core2 LED, Summer 2007) alone, MBP with external VGA monitor and one continuous desktop, and MBP feeding a television in mirror mode via S-video. Provided I shut down completely in between uses, the system remembers the settings used for the monitor setup it discovers on booting! Very convenient. I do need separate adapters here; Apple sells them for $20 each. From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Feb 2 09:56:44 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Feb 2 10:10:52 2008 Subject: [X4U] Copy installed Leopard In-Reply-To: <7F0F1074-5C88-4451-A141-5188FE2F3D65@pandora.be> References: <20080129223149.7F23FA4CFB2@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <737D25D2-282A-4A19-9438-FFB46B69AFB8@pandora.be> <7F0F1074-5C88-4451-A141-5188FE2F3D65@pandora.be> Message-ID: At 6:34 PM +0100, 2/2/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: >Because I formatted the second internal HD from the install DVD By default, you are probably doing a format that is incompatible for booting from that pre-Intel computer. You do want OS Extended (Journaled) but you do want APM, not GUID. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti My favorite animal is steak. -- Fran Lebowitz <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From cindypmoore at yahoo.com Sat Feb 2 10:21:41 2008 From: cindypmoore at yahoo.com (Cindy MOORE) Date: Sat Feb 2 10:21:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] mirror agent Message-ID: <39978.53921.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> When I shut down my G5, it stops and says "mirroragent canceld shutdown". Then I'm given a dialogue box asking if I want to "continue". By clicking this I'm able to shut down. My computer hasn't always done this. Any suggestions as to why and how to stop it? I'm running Tiger PS10.4.11. Thank you, Cindy Moore ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From pfterry at deadtrees.net Sat Feb 2 11:01:58 2008 From: pfterry at deadtrees.net (Fred Terry) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:02:31 2008 Subject: [X4U] mirror agent In-Reply-To: <39978.53921.qm@web52606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/2/08 12:21 PM, "Cindy MOORE" wrote: > When I shut down my G5, it stops and says "mirroragent canceld shutdown". Then > I'm given a dialogue box asking if I want to "continue". By clicking this I'm > able to shut down. My computer hasn't always done this. Any suggestions as to > why and how to stop it? I'm running Tiger PS10.4.11. > Thank you, Cindy Moore Based on some quick googling, Mirror Agent is a component of .Mac. To keep this from happening, you can disable iDisk or open the .Mac pane in System Preferences and change the setting from "Automatically" to "Manually" for the "Create a local copy of your iDisk." It also sounds like this hasn't always solved the problem. From winstonworks at sympatico.ca Sat Feb 2 11:38:24 2008 From: winstonworks at sympatico.ca (Winston MacKelvie) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:38:35 2008 Subject: [X4U] iCal or ToDo email question In-Reply-To: <9AF3FAFF-47D5-424F-B869-414117DBF5AB@telus.net> References: <9AF3FAFF-47D5-424F-B869-414117DBF5AB@telus.net> Message-ID: <0C155BC9-BB20-40E0-849D-6CFE99FE6831@sympatico.ca> That's what I do too. I label the new eaddress using Custom. You can add as many as needed. Winston http://www.inventure.ca From cindypmoore at yahoo.com Sat Feb 2 11:44:30 2008 From: cindypmoore at yahoo.com (Cindy MOORE) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:45:18 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Mirror Agent Message-ID: <220259.7062.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I've already tried that. I don't even have .mac set up in my system preferences. I have a .mac account which I'm waiting to expire because I don't think it's worth $100. I'm hoping that will end my problem. Thanks for the help. Cindy > When I shut down my G5, it stops and says "mirroragent canceld shutdown". Then > I'm given a dialogue box asking if I want to "continue". By clicking this I'm > able to shut down. My computer hasn't always done this. Any suggestions as to > why and how to stop it? I'm running Tiger PS10.4.11. > Thank you, Cindy Moore >Based on some quick googling, Mirror Agent is a component of .Mac. To keep >this from happening, you can disable iDisk or open the .Mac pane in System >Preferences and change the setting from "Automatically" to "Manually" for >the "Create a local copy of your iDisk." > >It also sounds like this hasn't always solved the problem. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From lstnmt at bresnan.net Sat Feb 2 11:51:55 2008 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:52:03 2008 Subject: [X4U] iCal or ToDo email question In-Reply-To: <0C155BC9-BB20-40E0-849D-6CFE99FE6831@sympatico.ca> References: <9AF3FAFF-47D5-424F-B869-414117DBF5AB@telus.net> <0C155BC9-BB20-40E0-849D-6CFE99FE6831@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: Thanks Robert and Winston, I have set up an address as suggested and will see how it works! I assume it will work well. I never would have thought of the technique without your help! Jens Jens Selvig ...Lost in Montana... On Feb 2, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Winston MacKelvie wrote: > That's what I do too. I label the new eaddress using Custom. You can > add as many as needed. From michaelelliott at mac.com Sat Feb 2 11:57:17 2008 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:57:36 2008 Subject: [X4U] Copy installed Leopard In-Reply-To: <7F0F1074-5C88-4451-A141-5188FE2F3D65@pandora.be> References: <20080129223149.7F23FA4CFB2@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <737D25D2-282A-4A19-9438-FFB46B69AFB8@pandora.be> <7F0F1074-5C88-4451-A141-5188FE2F3D65@pandora.be> Message-ID: <02CCD50F-E8E2-4A75-B6A8-5AF6CA2FCA6D@mac.com> I only have my MacBook with an internal drive, so I don't see the options (greyed out) but there is a setting to format the drive in either APM or GUID. So when you reformat the drive, just MAE sure the right partition map for either Intel or PPC is selected. -------------------- If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my phone. iPhone mail www.apple.com/iPhone On Feb 2, 2008, at 11:34 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Michael, > > Because I formatted the second internal HD from the install DVD I > now can format that empty HD as "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)" which > I always have done on this G5. > And how do you "accidentally" format the wrong partition? > > Paul Moortgat > > On 02 Feb 2008, at 16:29, Michael Elliott wrote: > >> Paul >> Just confirming, since I am coming late to his thread, but you're >> sure that you reformatted the drive with the correct partition map? >> Since Intel machines were introduced, its now possible to >> accidentally use the "wrong" partition map. If you do, an install >> of MacOS will go fine but it will never boot, even if you're >> copying a bootable image from another disk. >> >> -------------------- >> If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my phone. >> >> iPhone mail >> www.apple.com/iPhone >> >> On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:17 AM, Paul Moortgat >> wrote: >> >>> Last night I started with the OSX DVD, formatted the internal HD >>> (because I couldn't format the HD from Disk Utility) and used CCC, >>> tried to restart with the internal HD with the same NO GO result. >>> >>> Paul Moortgat >>> >>> On 30 Jan 2008, at 01:19, John Baltutis wrote: >>> >>>> On 01/29/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I tried to copy my external ATA disk with Leopard installed on >>>>> it to >>>>> an internal SATA disk via CCC because SuperDuper isn't ready for >>>>> Leopard. >>>>> It didn't work. CCC can't do it. Any other program that will >>>>> do it? >>>> >>>> That would be a first. Post your problem to the CCC >>>> Troubleshooting forum at >>>> and provide the >>>> sailent details >>>> about machine, OS, and configuration. We'll see if we can fix the >>>> problem, >>>> since I've routinely cloned from external HDs to insternal ones >>>> and vice versa >>>> using Leopard w/o issue. >>>> >>>> --Bombich Forums moderator >>> _______________________________________________ >>> X4U mailing list >>> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >>> >>> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal >> > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net Sat Feb 2 11:57:19 2008 From: Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net (Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:57:59 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Verizon Wireless Internet Service In-Reply-To: <20080202153106.DD1C7AFF77A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080202153106.DD1C7AFF77A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: tabdave@ca.rr.com wrote: >On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Technophobic_Tom wrote: > >> Geoffrey wrote: >> >>> Verizon offers a 5 Gig plan...1.6 to 1 m.b. down load.... >>> Just wondered if anyone had used Verizons Broadband >>> service for internet use and had any feed back on it. >> >> If you try it, make sure you get an agreement such that if it >> doesn't perform to some criteria, which you specify, they must void >> the contract and return all your money. It can be so arranged. > > Technically, you can simply wright whatever you want into the contract > and sign it. Chances are the salseperson won't say anything. Nobody > will probably ever review it, but it's still a legally binding document. Make sure the salesperson initials the change and that the change and the salespersons initials clearly show on your copy. I can modify a contract any way I please before or after I leave the salesroom but unless it's agreed to by both parties in writing IT AIN'T BINDING. From jamesrob at sonic.net Sat Feb 2 12:01:23 2008 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Sat Feb 2 12:01:35 2008 Subject: [X4U] Weird Finder/Keyboard Bug (Leopard) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/2/08 7:38 AM, "Michael Elliott" wrote: > Jim If it happens again, try selecting your Displays menu item and then > changing the resolution of your monitor and then back. There is a Leopard > bug that some of us are getting where the Desktop freezes and you can't > click or type in Finder. Almost as if you're working with a screenshot of > your Desktop. Changing the resolution helps fix it. I don't think this is the same bug, because I CAN click (after all, I can select menu items, and I can highlight the names of files and folders in Finder windows using the mouse or my Wacom pen). However, I cannot make any input from the keyboard until I restart the Finder. Jim Robertson -- From michaelelliott at mac.com Sat Feb 2 12:16:03 2008 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sat Feb 2 12:17:50 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Mirror Agent In-Reply-To: <220259.7062.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <220259.7062.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <85D571F8-2BF2-4DB7-B0E2-FDFB76EA2926@mac.com> Thos was a problem which was fixed in Leopard -------------------- If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my phone. iPhone mail www.apple.com/iPhone On Feb 2, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Cindy MOORE wrote: > I've already tried that. I don't even have .mac set up in my system > preferences. I have a .mac account which I'm waiting to expire > because I don't think it's worth $100. I'm hoping that will end my > problem. > Thanks for the help. Cindy > >> > When > I > shut > down > my > G5, > it > stops > and > says > "mirroragent > canceld > shutdown". > Then >> > I'm > given > a > dialogue > box > asking > if > I > want > to > "continue". > By > clicking > this > I'm >> > able > to > shut > down. > My > computer > hasn't > always > done > this. > Any > suggestions > as > to >> > why > and > how > to > stop > it? > I'm > running > Tiger > PS10.4.11. >> > Thank > you, > Cindy > Moore > >> Based > on > some > quick > googling, > Mirror > Agent > is > a > component > of > .Mac. > To > keep >> this > from > happening, > you > can > disable > iDisk > or > open > the > .Mac > pane > in > System >> Preferences > and > change > the > setting > from > "Automatically" > to > "Manually" > for >> the > "Create > a > local > copy > of > your > iDisk." >> >> It > also > sounds > like > this > hasn't > always > solved > the > problem. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From joe at wacondatrader.com Sat Feb 2 13:04:09 2008 From: joe at wacondatrader.com (Joe Sporleder) Date: Sat Feb 2 13:04:59 2008 Subject: [X4U] Razr 2 Mobile Broadband USB? Message-ID: <490CD4DD-0354-483A-925C-92AD46EA7C8B@wacondatrader.com> In my part of Kansas, our most reliable mobile provider is Alltel, and I have their mobile broadband service for $25 per month unlimited, where I use my Razr as a modem to access the Internet. I work for a small publishing company where I split my time as general manager of one of our publications and providing IT services for the company as a whole. I get 600K average download speeds and it has been handy to VPN into the home office while traveling and using Remote Desktop to work on the Mac OS X Server and also client machines. My original Motorola Razr worked great as a mobile broadband modem, and I could connect to my MacBook Pro (10.4.11) via bluetooth or USB. I had to tell Internet Connect that my "modem" is a Sprint PCS Vision. The advantage of USB is that I could charge the phone and access the Internet at the same time (using it as a bluetooth modem drained the battery quick without external power). Unfortunately, my old Razr bit the dust, so I upgraded to the Razr 2. The Mac will not recognize the Razr 2 via USB. It will recognize it via bluetooth tho. Alltel's Mac support is non-existent, I had to hack together a solution from various websites with the help of Google. Anyone know of a way to get MacOS X 10.4.11 to recognize a Razr 2 via USB? The old Razr showed up as a port in the Network system preferences. However, no such luck with the Razr 2. I tried a couple of workarounds from links I've found on Apple.com discussion boards. However, I have been unable to get them to work with my configuration. I would someday love an iPhone, unfortunately AT&T does not provide cell service in my area. Anyone with an iPhone, does AT&T offer a service for tethering the iPhone to your Mac as a broadband modem? My 2 options would be to wait for AT&T to bring mobile service to my area (they recently bought out CellularOne in my area, so there is hope), or wait for AT&T and Apple's marriage to dissolve in about 5 years so that Apple could make a CDMA/EVD0 version of the iPhone if they choose to. Joe From Robert at Ameeti.net Sat Feb 2 13:17:55 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sat Feb 2 13:18:15 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Verizon Wireless Internet Service In-Reply-To: References: <20080202153106.DD1C7AFF77A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: At 2:57 PM -0500, 2/2/08, Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net wrote: >> Technically, you can simply wright whatever you want into the contract >> and sign it. Chances are the salseperson won't say anything. Nobody >> will probably ever review it, but it's still a legally binding document. > >Make sure the salesperson initials the change and that the change >and the salespersons initials clearly show on your copy. I can >modify a contract any way I please before or after I leave the >salesroom but unless it's agreed to by both parties in writing IT >AIN'T BINDING. Unless the back of the contract has the standard terms which state that the salesperson does not have the right to alter the terms of the contract. LOL Else, salespeople on their way out would give all of their friends really great deals. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti The trouble with facts is that there are so many of them. -- Samuel McChord Crothers, The Gentle Reader <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From michaelelliott at mac.com Sat Feb 2 13:27:32 2008 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sat Feb 2 13:30:14 2008 Subject: [X4U] Razr 2 Mobile Broadband USB? In-Reply-To: <490CD4DD-0354-483A-925C-92AD46EA7C8B@wacondatrader.com> References: <490CD4DD-0354-483A-925C-92AD46EA7C8B@wacondatrader.com> Message-ID: iPhones can be jailbroken and then tethered and used as modems over the EDGE network. My friend does it, but clearly it isn't sanctioned/ supported. -------------------- If my email is short, it's because I'm emailing from my phone. iPhone mail www.apple.com/iPhone On Feb 2, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Joe Sporleder wrote: > In my part of Kansas, our most reliable mobile provider is Alltel, > and I have their mobile broadband service for $25 per month > unlimited, where I use my Razr as a modem to access the Internet. I > work for a small publishing company where I split my time as general > manager of one of our publications and providing IT services for the > company as a whole. I get 600K average download speeds and it has > been handy to VPN into the home office while traveling and using > Remote Desktop to work on the Mac OS X Server and also client > machines. My original Motorola Razr worked great as a mobile > broadband modem, and I could connect to my MacBook Pro (10.4.11) via > bluetooth or USB. I had to tell Internet Connect that my "modem" is > a Sprint PCS Vision. The advantage of USB is that I could charge the > phone and access the Internet at the same time (using it as a > bluetooth modem drained the battery quick without external power). > > Unfortunately, my old Razr bit the dust, so I upgraded to the Razr > 2. The Mac will not recognize the Razr 2 via USB. It will recognize > it via bluetooth tho. Alltel's Mac support is non-existent, I had to > hack together a solution from various websites with the help of > Google. Anyone know of a way to get MacOS X 10.4.11 to recognize a > Razr 2 via USB? The old Razr showed up as a port in the Network > system preferences. However, no such luck with the Razr 2. I tried a > couple of workarounds from links I've found on Apple.com discussion > boards. However, I have been unable to get them to work with my > configuration. > > I would someday love an iPhone, unfortunately AT&T does not provide > cell service in my area. Anyone with an iPhone, does AT&T offer a > service for tethering the iPhone to your Mac as a broadband modem? > My 2 options would be to wait for AT&T to bring mobile service to my > area (they recently bought out CellularOne in my area, so there is > hope), or wait for AT&T and Apple's marriage to dissolve in about 5 > years so that Apple could make a CDMA/EVD0 version of the iPhone if > they choose to. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From jwarms at mac.com Sat Feb 2 14:40:39 2008 From: jwarms at mac.com (Jon Warms) Date: Sat Feb 2 14:40:51 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Leopard, one more problem In-Reply-To: <20080202190241.AFD9BB09E1B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080202190241.AFD9BB09E1B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <3CA73F3D-FFB0-4A7E-960E-45EED9501581@mac.com> Robert- I think you missed the point of my original posting, which was that - in spite of the many good features of Leopard - there were some newly introduced changes that required me to do something. Most MacOS upgrades fix problems or add features that I can use or not use. The things I mentioned are the type of issues that others call "known problems". 1) I should have added that I use list view in most cases (except where I need cover flow). According to you, Robert, I guess I'm the only person in the Mac world that does use list view. My apologies. 2) Your server permission comments are vague and probably non-applicable, since I logged in as the server's owner and owner of the files in question. The files were no longer accessible through the server because their directories were at root level. I had the directories at root level because I couldn't make Classic apps go directly to a user directory, but since that reason no longer applies, I just moved the directories. But it did change the behavior and did take some time to fix. In any case, I noted that this was a bump, not a disabling problem. 3) Thanks for your comment about Verizon, but I was listing glitches or changes with Leopard. This "glitch" is probably the result of a change in the open-source code that Apple uses. Your comment may be true, but it's also misleading. Other posters said they had the same issue with other ISPs. 4) If you checked Excel boards, you'd find that others have had similar problems. There are work-arounds, but my point was that Leopard has annoying glitches, and this is one of them. 5) Thanks for your observation about your num lock key. Did you install the keyboard firmware upgrade? Apparently Apple is changing something regarding the numeric overlay. See David Pogue's blog here: On Feb 2, 2008, Robert Ameeti wrote: >> But there have been bumps along the road: >> 1. Open dialog boxes open with the focus in the sidebar, so typing >> the first letters of a filename is an exercise in futility without >> first using a mouse. > > I've just tried this in Eudora, Safari, and Word. In every case, the > focus was in the first column of my column view. > >> 2. Save and Open dialog boxes don't remember the file listing >> sequence (date or name). > > Hmmm. You must prefer List View. I've not seen anyone use that option. > >> 4. In my home network, I can only mount users, not drive root >> levels. Tiger would let me mount the server's hard drive; Leopard >> will only mount the username. > > Set the access permissions to change this. The new behavior is more > in line with appropriate security. > >> 5. Browser behavior has changed, requiring using an alternate >> Verizon DNS to fix. > > This would be Verizon's desire to acquire more ad revenue. > >> 6. Leopard has broken my Microsoft keyboard; specifically, the >> numeric keypad no longer works. > > Leopard broke it? Or it does not follow the Apple API guidelines? > >> 7. Leopard has sickened the numeric overlay pad on my MacBook. The >> num-lock key and the pad no longer work in Excel 2004. > > Num Lock works on my MacBook Pro with Excel 2004. > Jon From tabdave at ca.rr.com Sat Feb 2 20:33:26 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Sat Feb 2 20:33:38 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Verizon Wireless Internet Service In-Reply-To: References: <20080202153106.DD1C7AFF77A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <72E0CF5C-505D-479E-889E-2D666377E428@ca.rr.com> Yeah, you're correct on this. What you can do though is cross something out, initial it and sign the contract. If the other party doesn't review it and agree to the change, then the contract is void. Which essentially means that since it was never a valid contract in the first place, they can't get you for an early cancellation fee. Dave On Feb 2, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net wrote: > tabdave@ca.rr.com wrote: > >> On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Technophobic_Tom wrote: >> >>> Geoffrey wrote: >>> >>>> Verizon offers a 5 Gig plan...1.6 to 1 m.b. down load.... >>>> Just wondered if anyone had used Verizons Broadband >>>> service for internet use and had any feed back on it. >>> >>> If you try it, make sure you get an agreement such that if it >>> doesn't perform to some criteria, which you specify, they must void >>> the contract and return all your money. It can be so arranged. >> >> Technically, you can simply wright whatever you want into the >> contract >> and sign it. Chances are the salseperson won't say anything. Nobody >> will probably ever review it, but it's still a legally binding >> document. > > Make sure the salesperson initials the change and that the change > and the salespersons initials clearly show on your copy. I can > modify a contract any way I please before or after I leave the > salesroom but unless it's agreed to by both parties in writing IT > AIN'T BINDING. > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From Robert at Ameeti.net Sun Feb 3 07:11:35 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sun Feb 3 07:28:20 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Verizon Wireless Internet Service In-Reply-To: <72E0CF5C-505D-479E-889E-2D666377E428@ca.rr.com> References: <20080202153106.DD1C7AFF77A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <72E0CF5C-505D-479E-889E-2D666377E428@ca.rr.com> Message-ID: At 8:33 PM -0800, 2/2/08, Crandon David wrote: >Yeah, you're correct on this. What you can do though is cross >something out, initial it and sign the contract. If the other party >doesn't review it and agree to the change, then the contract is >void. Which essentially means that since it was never a valid >contract in the first place, they can't get you for an early >cancellation fee. Someone can write all they want on it but if an authorized person on the other end hasn't agreed to the change, then that change is not enforceable. It will not invalidate the rest of the contract. Nice try though. ;-) -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti None of us, acting alone, can achieve success. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From Robert at Ameeti.net Sun Feb 3 07:52:43 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Sun Feb 3 07:54:29 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Leopard, one more problem In-Reply-To: <3CA73F3D-FFB0-4A7E-960E-45EED9501581@mac.com> References: <20080202190241.AFD9BB09E1B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <3CA73F3D-FFB0-4A7E-960E-45EED9501581@mac.com> Message-ID: At 5:40 PM -0500, 2/2/08, Jon Warms wrote: >The things I mentioned are the type of issues that others call >"known problems". While some would like to call them 'known problems', others recognize them as 'you've been caught' type of things. Every version of a new Operating System will continue to close holes and will typically enforce rules that previously existed but were not mandated. If things were done the way that they were designed to be done, user's typically don't have a problem. >1) I should have added that I use list view in most cases (except >where I need cover flow). According to you, Robert, I guess I'm the >only person in the Mac world that does use list view. My apologies. No apologies necessary. It is just that I see hundreds of users everyday (in schools & other businesses) using their Macs and I've yet to see anyone use the List View in an Open File dialog. I've tested this in both Tiger and Leopard, and I can see no difference on several computers. On each version of the OS, all of the computers remembered the correct column to sort on, as well as the order of the Sort. I can not figure out a way to break it in Leopard. >2) Your server permission comments are vague and probably non-applicable, They may be not work for you but I've 'fixed' this problem several times by adjusting the permissions. If Apple should decide to 'enforce' the proper placement of Applications and Documents so that they are not easily allowed at the root of the drive, I'll not be feeling bad for those that are 'forced' to move those documents are directories to their proper places. Many people do things because they are able to do things but that doesn't make them right. To have a secure computer, certain rules must be followed. >3) Thanks for your comment about Verizon, but I was listing glitches >or changes with Leopard. Because this is not happening with all users, nor with all Verizon customers, it must be recognized that this is not a Leopard issue but rather due to something outside of Leopard. If it was a Leopard issue, it would affect all Leopard users. >Other posters said they had the same issue with other ISPs. Yes, other ISPs are continually changing things. ie. Comcast has been in the news for breaking Bit Torrent connections. Other ISPs are also thinking of doing the same. But because it is happening today, this is not Leopard's fault. If your Verizon search page is coming up, but another Leopard's ISP's is not coming up, as well as another Verizon's user's search page is not coming up, it is time to look for the real problem and that would be the Verizon DNS that you are using rather than blaming Leopard. >4) If you checked Excel boards, you'd find that others have had >similar problems. Probably non Apple keyboards that are not properly implementing this. If this bug is not happening to all Leopard users, then I'm not thinking that Leopard broke it. I'd look to some interaction of keyboard, drivers, etc. >5) Thanks for your observation about your num lock key. Did you >install the keyboard firmware upgrade? Yep. > Apparently Apple is changing something regarding the numeric overlay. Yep. They are not including it in new keyboards. But Leopard does not remove the feature from existing keyboards. Again I'd look to the keyboard that is being used and other drivers. Apple is also removing the Apple logo from the Command key. And for many years people referred to it as the Apple key instead of the Command key. Calling it Open Apple worked for them but apparently Apple feels that it is time to stop giving them an excuse for calling it the Apple key. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From XPressoBean at mac.com Sun Feb 3 14:10:28 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sun Feb 3 14:10:39 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Mirror Agent In-Reply-To: <220259.7062.qm@web52605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/2/08 1:44 PM, Cindy MOORE wrote: > I don't even have .mac set up in my system preferences. Maybe that's the problem -- it's busy looking for your account info. If you input the info into your System Preference panels, does the message go away? From kansast at mac.com Mon Feb 4 07:58:23 2008 From: kansast at mac.com (Kansas Territory) Date: Mon Feb 4 07:59:02 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot Message-ID: Have a 17 inch iMac G5. Running OSX 10.4 Try to boot it up.. I get the gray Apple and the Spinning wheel. But nothing happens beyond that. I booted up into Single user mode. Ran the fsck that reported back an error of some kind, said it was fixing it.. etc. I ran fsck again. this time it reported NO errors and that the drive was fine. Still when I try to boot up this computer, Gray Apple, spinning wheel. Any suggestions ? Kansast From macsys at mac.com Mon Feb 4 08:04:58 2008 From: macsys at mac.com (wilkinw) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:06:41 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00D25704-15BD-4B55-9AD9-D66BEF2DADDB@mac.com> Try rebooting holding down the option key and select your main OS hard drive, could have lost connection with the boot drive! On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Kansas Territory wrote: > Have a 17 inch iMac G5. Running OSX 10.4 > Try to boot it up.. I get the gray Apple and the Spinning wheel. > But nothing happens beyond that. > > I booted up into Single user mode. Ran the fsck that reported back > an error of some kind, said it was fixing it.. etc. > > I ran fsck again. this time it reported NO errors and that the drive > was fine. > > Still when I try to boot up this computer, Gray Apple, spinning wheel. > > Any suggestions ? > > Kansast > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From jescott3 at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 08:11:32 2008 From: jescott3 at gmail.com (Jim Scott) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:12:06 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C6E97B8-3EA9-41E7-9D38-01FC19F564CF@gmail.com> On Feb 4, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Kansas Territory wrote: > Have a 17 inch iMac G5. Running OSX 10.4 > Try to boot it up.. I get the gray Apple and the Spinning wheel. > But nothing happens beyond that. > > I booted up into Single user mode. Ran the fsck that reported back > an error of some kind, said it was fixing it.. etc. > > I ran fsck again. this time it reported NO errors and that the drive > was fine. > > Still when I try to boot up this computer, Gray Apple, spinning wheel. > > Any suggestions ? > > Kansast I've fixed a number of OS X 10.4 Macs with this hanging-while-booting problem simply by booting from a Disk Warrior disk and running the application. What Disk Warrior usually finds and fixes is incorrect volume information, and a handful of faulty icon stuff. This usually is caused by improper shutdowns while programs are still running, in my experience. HTH, Jim Scott From abailey at semo.edu Mon Feb 4 08:11:43 2008 From: abailey at semo.edu (Anthony Bailey) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:12:28 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Have you tried booting it up with the system software disk and running disk utility? That should either fix it or let you know more info about the problem. Next step would be to try Diskwarrior or just wipe and re-install. This is a good reason to have an external bootable firewire hard drive so that when you have problems, you can boot up with this, and then repair or back up the internal hard drive. Tony On 2/4/08 9:58 AM, "Kansas Territory" wrote: > Have a 17 inch iMac G5. Running OSX 10.4 > Try to boot it up.. I get the gray Apple and the Spinning wheel. But > nothing happens beyond that. > > I booted up into Single user mode. Ran the fsck that reported back > an error of some kind, said it was fixing it.. etc. > > I ran fsck again. this time it reported NO errors and that the drive > was fine. > > Still when I try to boot up this computer, Gray Apple, spinning wheel. > > Any suggestions ? > > Kansast > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal ----------- this is coming to you from Anthony Bailey ?? Southeast Missouri State University, Cape Girardeau, Missouri??63701 From kansast at mac.com Mon Feb 4 08:40:14 2008 From: kansast at mac.com (Kansas Territory) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:41:33 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: <00D25704-15BD-4B55-9AD9-D66BEF2DADDB@mac.com> References: <00D25704-15BD-4B55-9AD9-D66BEF2DADDB@mac.com> Message-ID: On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:04 AM, wilkinw wrote: > Try rebooting holding down the option key and select your main OS > hard drive, could have lost connection with the boot drive! Tried that as well. sorry forgot to mention that.. I try that, it shows the Macintosh HD drive.. try to continue from there.. Gray Apple and spinning wheel and gets no further. I've tried and let that spinning wheel go for a couple of hours as well.. Kansast From kansast at mac.com Mon Feb 4 08:44:09 2008 From: kansast at mac.com (Kansas Territory) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:46:04 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56B42B6E-A356-4E2E-A165-BE7AA563680D@mac.com> On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Anthony Bailey wrote: > Have you tried booting it up with the system software disk and > running disk > utility? That should either fix it or let you know more info about the > problem. Next step would be to try Diskwarrior or just wipe and re- > install. > This is a good reason to have an external bootable firewire hard > drive so > that when you have problems, you can boot up with this, and then > repair or > back up the internal hard drive. I've tried booting up from the System CD, insert CD , hold down the C key restarting all that.. won't boot up from the CD either. Gray Apple and spinning wheel. I'm a bit confused.. if I boot into single user mode, and I'm able to run fsck and it reports back that the drive is O.K. ? Thanks for the replies all.. Any other suggestions ? Would starting up the iMac in firewire mode or whatever it's called.. and mount the drive from another computer ? could I then run disk utility on it that way ? Kansast From abailey at semo.edu Mon Feb 4 08:52:59 2008 From: abailey at semo.edu (Anthony Bailey) Date: Mon Feb 4 08:53:19 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: <56B42B6E-A356-4E2E-A165-BE7AA563680D@mac.com> Message-ID: Put your CD in and then restart as you may not have the CD in soon enough for it to register and boot from. Also as others have said then hold down the option key until the hd shows, choose the CD when the screen shows the hard drive & CD. If the CD doesn't show click the rescan button and wait for the CD to show. This may take a couple tries but then you should be able to boot from the CD with no problems. Tony On 2/4/08 10:44 AM, "Kansas Territory" wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Anthony Bailey wrote: > >> Have you tried booting it up with the system software disk and >> running disk >> utility? That should either fix it or let you know more info about the >> problem. Next step would be to try Diskwarrior or just wipe and re- >> install. >> This is a good reason to have an external bootable firewire hard >> drive so >> that when you have problems, you can boot up with this, and then >> repair or >> back up the internal hard drive. > > I've tried booting up from the System CD, insert CD , hold down the C > key restarting all that.. won't boot up from the CD either. > Gray Apple and spinning wheel. > > I'm a bit confused.. if I boot into single user mode, and I'm able to > run fsck and it reports back that the drive is O.K. ? > > Thanks for the replies all.. > > Any other suggestions ? > > Would starting up the iMac in firewire mode or whatever it's called.. > and mount the drive from another computer ? could I then run disk > utility on it that way ? > > > Kansast > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal ----------- this is coming to you from Anthony Bailey ?? Southeast Missouri State University, Cape Girardeau, Missouri??63701 From dlabore1 at comcast.net Mon Feb 4 11:06:34 2008 From: dlabore1 at comcast.net (Doug LaBore) Date: Mon Feb 4 11:07:57 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've seen this issue before and replacing the internal PRAM battery has fixed it for me. Doug On 2/4/08 10:40 AM, "Kansas Territory" wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:04 AM, wilkinw wrote: > >> Try rebooting holding down the option key and select your main OS >> hard drive, could have lost connection with the boot drive! > > Tried that as well. sorry forgot to mention that.. I try that, it > shows the Macintosh HD drive.. try to continue from there.. Gray > Apple and spinning wheel and gets no further. > I've tried and let that spinning wheel go for a couple of hours as > well.. > > > Kansast From kansast at mac.com Mon Feb 4 11:18:48 2008 From: kansast at mac.com (Kansas Territory) Date: Mon Feb 4 11:19:07 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <685DB0EE-9430-4A80-8AE2-E6E5A950A23E@mac.com> On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Doug LaBore wrote: > I've seen this issue before and replacing the internal PRAM battery > has > fixed it for me. Any handy dandy online instructions for getting inside an iMac G5 to do such a thing ? I've replaced many a battery/ hard drives etc in many different mac models over the years.. never one of these flat screen iMac types. Kansast From wayne at troutnc.com Mon Feb 4 11:29:47 2008 From: wayne at troutnc.com (Wayne Clodfelter) Date: Mon Feb 4 11:30:12 2008 Subject: [X4U] help, iMac G5 will not boot In-Reply-To: <685DB0EE-9430-4A80-8AE2-E6E5A950A23E@mac.com> References: <685DB0EE-9430-4A80-8AE2-E6E5A950A23E@mac.com> Message-ID: <47A767AB.2050507@troutnc.com> Kansas Territory wrote: > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Doug LaBore wrote: > >> I've seen this issue before and replacing the internal PRAM battery has >> fixed it for me. > > Any handy dandy online instructions for getting inside an iMac G5 to do > such a thing ? googled imac G5 manual. try this http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300205 From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Tue Feb 5 06:06:55 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Tue Feb 5 06:07:27 2008 Subject: [X4U] Apple service Message-ID: <87B4DDAB-E2F0-422D-8C71-58598731806A@pandora.be> After hesitating I ordered an imac. On the site it says 3-5 days free delivery. At the end It's 14 days, but it's still free. When I ordered leopard I got one with a French booklet in it. I don't read it, but it's not my language. After several phone calls I was told that nothing could be done. One joker told me to buy a new one. But I still prefer Apple over PC. Paul Moortgat From mattgregory33 at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 07:07:49 2008 From: mattgregory33 at gmail.com (Matt Gregory) Date: Tue Feb 5 07:08:00 2008 Subject: [X4U] Apple service In-Reply-To: <87B4DDAB-E2F0-422D-8C71-58598731806A@pandora.be> References: <87B4DDAB-E2F0-422D-8C71-58598731806A@pandora.be> Message-ID: <49a664460802050707r525fd18cpac1862779929de03@mail.gmail.com> I recently had my first experience with Applecare. 2 months before the APP ran out my 15" PB G4 stopped recognizing the memory installed in the lower slot. I was on the phone for maybe 1 hour going through some steps for the rep and then she gave me the option of sending it in or taking it to a local repair shop. I opted for the latter and all-told had the PB back in working order in 3 days. This included 1 extra night where I couldn't pick it up because the shop had closed early, so it should have been 2 days. I was quite pleased with the service I got from Apple. The repair shop seemed to do a fine job, but I'm sure they won't get any repeat business from me. matt. On 2/5/08, Paul Moortgat wrote: > > After hesitating I ordered an imac. On the site it says 3-5 days free > delivery. At the end It's 14 days, but it's still free. > When I ordered leopard I got one with a French booklet in it. I don't > read it, but it's not my language. After several phone calls I was > told that nothing could be done. One joker told me to buy a new one. > But I still prefer Apple over PC. > > Paul Moortgat > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080205/c0c2bbb8/attachment-0001.html From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Feb 5 08:02:28 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Feb 5 08:03:45 2008 Subject: [X4U] Apple service In-Reply-To: <87B4DDAB-E2F0-422D-8C71-58598731806A@pandora.be> Message-ID: On 2/5/08 8:06 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > When I ordered leopard I got one with a French booklet in it. Paul, can you tell us from whom you ordered the iMac? And from where you ordered Leopard? Did you order them from the Apple Store online, or from some third-party reseller? Thanks, Linda From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Tue Feb 5 08:59:42 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Tue Feb 5 09:00:30 2008 Subject: [X4U] Apple service In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All from the Belgian Apple Store online. They learned a lot from M$. Paul Moortgat On 05 Feb 2008, at 17:02, Linda wrote: > On 2/5/08 8:06 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> When I ordered leopard I got one with a French booklet in it. > > Paul, can you tell us from whom you ordered the iMac? And from where > you > ordered Leopard? Did you order them from the Apple Store online, or > from > some third-party reseller? > > Thanks, > Linda From silvoc at tiscali.it Tue Feb 5 09:18:57 2008 From: silvoc at tiscali.it (silvo conticello) Date: Tue Feb 5 09:28:30 2008 Subject: [X4U] Apple service In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437B4A09-0AF0-4427-AF92-91A85AD63496@tiscali.it> On 5 Feb 2008, at 17:59, Paul Moortgat wrote: > All from the Belgian Apple Store online. They learned a lot from M$. I had an even longer wait when I've ordered an iMac last november. The fact is that the free delivery in 3-4 days starts from the moment the computer actually arrives in Europe and TNT takes charge of the delivery (and, being in Belgium, you will probably get it in 1-2 days). To those 3-4 days you have to add the 10-14 days it takes for the parcel to move from China to Europe. In my case, I had to wait even longer because all the shipment was blocked at the Customs in the Netherlands for nearly a week.... To have an idea of where your computer is try to trace through: Just paste the tracking number and hope that the site works (it isn't very reliable). Hope it helps, Silvo Silvo Conticello Albook 17" 1.67GHz/1.5Gb RAM/120Gb HD/OS10.4.8 iMac 1GHz/500Mb Ram/80Gb HD/OS10.4.8/17" display Firenze, Italy From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Tue Feb 5 12:24:05 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Tue Feb 5 12:24:28 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Leopard, one more problem In-Reply-To: References: <20080202190241.AFD9BB09E1B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <3CA73F3D-FFB0-4A7E-960E-45EED9501581@mac.com> Message-ID: I also can't download or read my digital magazines from NAPP. I trashed everything as Zinio wanted but the problem is the same. Re-installed it a few times. Nothing. I've a G5. Maybe it will be better on a new iMac. Paul Moortgat From flanders1 at charter.net Tue Feb 5 13:32:12 2008 From: flanders1 at charter.net (Cyn) Date: Tue Feb 5 13:32:32 2008 Subject: [X4U] Diskwarrior question In-Reply-To: <437B4A09-0AF0-4427-AF92-91A85AD63496@tiscali.it> References: <437B4A09-0AF0-4427-AF92-91A85AD63496@tiscali.it> Message-ID: I have a Diskwarrior CD Rev 40. Will this work with Leopard? -- Cyn From tombulat at comcast.net Tue Feb 5 13:55:24 2008 From: tombulat at comcast.net (Thomas Bulat) Date: Tue Feb 5 13:56:34 2008 Subject: [X4U] Diskwarrior question Message-ID: <20080205215524.867589848@smtp.comcast.net> >I have a Diskwarrior CD Rev 40. Will this work with Leopard? >-- > Hi Cyn, I too have this, and was just checking the Alsoft DW site. It is my understanding that... People with earlier versions will be able to download a file that will allow them to make a bootable CD. So long for now, TOM From edgould1948 at comcast.net Tue Feb 5 19:24:40 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Tue Feb 5 19:24:49 2008 Subject: [X4U] Problems with MAIL after 2.1.2 update Message-ID: After updating to 10.4.11 I have had two outages on the Apple Mail program. The first occurred approximately 2 weeks ago. I could get mail but not receive mail . It just would not give me any error message just timed out getting mail. I contacted my service provider (COMCAST) and asked them if they had changed any server settings (ports etc) and they said "NO". After 2 hours on the phone they contacted Apple and they stepped me through the same things that COMCAST had done. Two things stood out one was that the port number had "magically" changed COMCAST had me put in 26(IIRC) and that I was to use secure sockets. They (COMCAST) said no that is supposed to be 587 and I was supposed to be using secure sockets. I said fine why has this worked for over 2 years and I asked if they had changed anything and they said "NO" (I don't believe them). I changed the port they wanted and *NOT* to use secure sockets. and guess what, it worked. Tonight I started to getting a message from Apple mail saying the retrieve email was timing out. I called COMCAST and we went through their debugging procedure (again) and nothing worked. They then told me to stop/start email and all of a sudden it started to work. Have I got a bug in Apple Mail or is this a case of COMCAST changing something and not admitting to it? Ed ps: When I went back in tonight the secure sockets was turned on (magically) and I have not touched it. From tim_collier at bellsouth.net Wed Feb 6 02:06:43 2008 From: tim_collier at bellsouth.net (Tim Collier) Date: Wed Feb 6 02:07:53 2008 Subject: [X4U] Problems with MAIL after 2.1.2 update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/5/08 10:24 PM, "Ed Gould" wrote: > After updating to 10.4.11 I have had two outages on the Apple Mail > program. The first occurred approximately 2 weeks ago. I could get > mail but not receive mail . It just would not give me any error > message just timed out getting mail. I contacted my service provider > (COMCAST) and asked them if they had changed any server settings > (ports etc) and they said "NO". After 2 hours on the phone they > contacted Apple and they stepped me through the same things that > COMCAST had done. Two things stood out one was that the port number > had "magically" changed COMCAST had me put in 26(IIRC) > and that I was to use secure sockets. They (COMCAST) said no that is > supposed to be 587 and I was supposed to be using secure sockets. I > said fine why has this worked for over 2 years and I asked if they > had changed anything and they said "NO" (I don't believe them). I > changed the port they wanted and *NOT* to use secure sockets. and > guess what, it worked. > > Tonight I started to getting a message from Apple mail saying the > retrieve email was timing out. I called COMCAST and we went through > their debugging procedure (again) and nothing worked. They then > told me to stop/start email and all of a sudden it started to work. > > Have I got a bug in Apple Mail or is this a case of COMCAST changing > something and not admitting to it? > > Ed > > ps: When I went back in tonight the secure sockets was turned on > (magically) and I have not touched it. The last version of 10.4 was 10.4.10 then I upgraded to 10.5. Comcast is one of my ISP's (the other is AT&T) and since the upgrade, all of the same settings that I previously used with Comcast work fine as well as with BellSouth (AT&T). Upgrade my friend! Your problems will be solved. Tim From abailey at semo.edu Wed Feb 6 05:40:31 2008 From: abailey at semo.edu (Anthony Bailey) Date: Wed Feb 6 05:41:32 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Leopard, one more problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've had the same problems with my work's new iMac, the Zinio software and downloading my subscriptions. Be sure you delete everything, scan through your libraries, maybe do a disk search for anything related to zinio. It took a little while to fix it and after they letting me re-download my magazines again its working fine now. Tony On 2/5/08 2:24 PM, "Paul Moortgat" wrote: > I also can't download or read my digital magazines from NAPP. I > trashed everything as Zinio wanted but the problem is the same. > Re-installed it a few times. Nothing. I've a G5. Maybe it will be > better on a new iMac. > > Paul Moortgat > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal ----------- this is coming to you from Anthony Bailey ?? Southeast Missouri State University, Cape Girardeau, Missouri??63701 From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Wed Feb 6 09:03:46 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Wed Feb 6 09:05:25 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Leopard, one more problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I finally can read them again. I must have overlooked a file. I now did it again and they're all gone and re-installed. Read this page carefully: Paul Moortgat On 06 Feb 2008, at 14:40, Anthony Bailey wrote: > I've had the same problems with my work's new iMac, the Zinio > software and > downloading my subscriptions. Be sure you delete everything, scan > through > your libraries, maybe do a disk search for anything related to > zinio. It > took a little while to fix it and after they letting me re-download my > magazines again its working fine now. > Tony > > > On 2/5/08 2:24 PM, "Paul Moortgat" wrote: > >> I also can't download or read my digital magazines from NAPP. I >> trashed everything as Zinio wanted but the problem is the same. >> Re-installed it a few times. Nothing. I've a G5. Maybe it will be >> better on a new iMac. >> >> Paul Moortgat >> _ > ----------- > this is coming to you from Anthony Bailey ? > Southeast Missouri State University, Cape Girardeau, Missouri 63701 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From edgould1948 at comcast.net Wed Feb 6 15:14:39 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Wed Feb 6 15:14:45 2008 Subject: [X4U] Problems with MAIL after 2.1.2 update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:06 AM, Tim Collier wrote: > > The last version of 10.4 was 10.4.10 then I upgraded to 10.5. > Comcast is > one of my ISP's (the other is AT&T) and since the upgrade, all of > the same > settings that I previously used with Comcast work fine as well as with > BellSouth (AT&T). > Upgrade my friend! Your problems will be solved. > > Tim > > 10.4 is the end of the line for me. I have a G5 and need Classic PERIOD. I need Word Perfect and no sheep saver or whatever . Ed From XPressoBean at mac.com Wed Feb 6 15:36:17 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Wed Feb 6 15:36:34 2008 Subject: [X4U] Problems with MAIL after 2.1.2 update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/6/08 5:14 PM, Ed Gould wrote: > 10.4 is the end of the line for me. I have a G5 and need Classic PERIOD. > I need Word Perfect and no sheep saver or whatever . When you upgrade to an Intel machine, in a dozen years or so when the G5 finally breathes its last breath, you can install the Windows version of WordPerfect. Something to look forward to. Of course Leopard will be old news by then. :-) From edgould1948 at comcast.net Wed Feb 6 22:05:00 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Wed Feb 6 22:05:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] Problems with MAIL after 2.1.2 update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EE69FE4-8494-42B9-8B1D-57363EC6F655@comcast.net> On Feb 6, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Linda wrote: > On 2/6/08 5:14 PM, Ed Gould wrote: > >> 10.4 is the end of the line for me. I have a G5 and need Classic >> PERIOD. >> I need Word Perfect and no sheep saver or whatever . > > When you upgrade to an Intel machine, in a dozen years or so when > the G5 > finally breathes its last breath, you can install the Windows > version of > WordPerfect. Something to look forward to. > > Of course Leopard will be old news by then. :-) > > Hehe no MS software OS will *NEVER* touch my computer. I will die with my hands around the computer and they will have to bury it with me. Ed From tabdave at ca.rr.com Thu Feb 7 13:14:59 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Thu Feb 7 13:15:36 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection Message-ID: OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their own personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about copying it? Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the CSS copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since it doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play in DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan on the disc... Can anyone help? David From andy.themac at gmail.com Thu Feb 7 13:43:15 2008 From: andy.themac at gmail.com (Andy) Date: Thu Feb 7 13:43:42 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their own > personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about copying it? > > Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the CSS > copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since it > doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play in > DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan on > the disc... > > Can anyone help? > Have you tried MacTheRipper Used with DVD2One Andy From jonnythanster at googlemail.com Thu Feb 7 16:19:19 2008 From: jonnythanster at googlemail.com (Jonnythan) Date: Thu Feb 7 16:19:39 2008 Subject: [X4U] Cable modem vs router Message-ID: Hello everyone, I'm having a problem getting my cable modem to work at full speed via my router. My speed is twice as good when I go straight from the modem to the Mac's built-in ethernet (Dual 2.7 GHz PowerPC G5, OS X 10.4.9). I thought the problem might be the age of the router, but buying a new one only improved the situation slightly. I need a router to link up with another Mac and a networked printer, but it isn't essential that I get internet access for anything else. I was wondering whether it would be a good plan to install an ethernet card and run the cable modem directly from that, whilst leaving the router connected to the built-in ethernet? Does anyone have any idea whether that would work and be as good as running from the built-in ethernet? Or is there anything else available that might help e.g. some sort of adapter to plug two devices into the built-in ethernet (i.e. a sort of router without any of a router's impedence)? Thanks, Best, Jonnythan. From dancurr at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 7 17:58:00 2008 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Thu Feb 7 17:58:11 2008 Subject: [X4U] HD almost FULL!! Message-ID: <47ABB728.20103@frontiernet.net> Hello All, My computer, an MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 320 GB HD's / NETSCAPE 7.2 / OS X.4.7, has been telling me for a week now that my HD is almost FULL. Is it possible to re-partition without losing all of my information or do I just copy the HD to a storage disk and then set up new partitions? TIA, Dan Currie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080207/0f9ddc28/attachment.html From macsys at mac.com Thu Feb 7 18:35:22 2008 From: macsys at mac.com (wilkinw) Date: Thu Feb 7 18:35:31 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also one of the best sites for this is: http://forum.videohelp.com/mac-f9.html On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Crandon David wrote: > OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their own > personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about copying it? > > Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the CSS > copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since it > doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play in > DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan on > the disc... > > Can anyone help? > > David > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From tabdave at ca.rr.com Thu Feb 7 14:29:26 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Thu Feb 7 18:36:46 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EDF9CB6-58B2-473E-BEAC-9B086C7ECE97@ca.rr.com> Cool, so MacTheRipper (which I've got going already) doesn't burn the new disc, right? DVD2One can do that, but how about if I don't want to compress it onto one disc? I've got a Dual Layer DVD burner, so what else would you recommend for burning? David On Feb 7, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Andy wrote: >> OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their own >> personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about copying >> it? >> >> Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the CSS >> copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since it >> doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play in >> DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan on >> the disc... >> >> Can anyone help? >> > Have you tried MacTheRipper > Used with DVD2One > > Andy > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From nickscalise at cox.net Thu Feb 7 18:44:33 2008 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Thu Feb 7 18:44:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: <4EDF9CB6-58B2-473E-BEAC-9B086C7ECE97@ca.rr.com> References: <4EDF9CB6-58B2-473E-BEAC-9B086C7ECE97@ca.rr.com> Message-ID: <2B79A440-DCE2-487D-A5B0-B67333E68273@cox.net> On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Crandon David wrote: > Cool, so MacTheRipper (which I've got going already) doesn't burn > the new disc, right? > > DVD2One can do that, but how about if I don't want to compress it > onto one disc? I've got a Dual Layer DVD burner, so what else would > you recommend for burning? Once MacTheRipper has copied your DVD to your hard drive, you can use toast to burn back to a DVD that will play on your settop DVD Player. In Toast 7, choose the Video tab. From there in the drawer that slides out on the left, choose DVD- Video from VIDEO_TS, drag the VIDEO_TS folder that MacTheRipper just created for you. Now, you can choose whether you want to compress to fit on a single layer DVD or burn to dual layer DVD. -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From jessup at san.rr.com Thu Feb 7 18:46:35 2008 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Thu Feb 7 18:49:32 2008 Subject: [X4U] HD almost FULL!! In-Reply-To: <47ABB728.20103@frontiernet.net> References: <47ABB728.20103@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: >Hello All, > >My computer, an MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 320 GB HD's / >NETSCAPE 7.2 / OS X.4.7, has been telling me for a week now that my >HD is almost FULL. > >Is it possible to re-partition without losing all of my information >or do I just copy the HD to a storage disk and then set up new >partitions? If it's telling you that the disk is almost full, I don't see where the extra space would come from for a re-partitioning. Even copying to an external will not magically make more space on the original disk. On the other hand, if it is nearly full, it is definitely a good ideal to back up to an external just so you don't suddenly lose all your data. Time to get rid of some stuff, of replace the drive with a bigger one! Daly ---------------------- From baltwo at san.rr.com Thu Feb 7 19:01:38 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Thu Feb 7 19:15:45 2008 Subject: [X4U] Problems with MAIL after 2.1.2 update In-Reply-To: <20080208024454.B3AABC1FDD4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080208024454.B3AABC1FDD4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 02/06/08, Ed Gould wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:06 AM, Tim Collier wrote: > >> The last version of 10.4 was 10.4.10 then I upgraded to 10.5. Comcast is >> one of my ISP's (the other is AT&T) and since the upgrade, all of the same >> settings that I previously used with Comcast work fine as well as with >> BellSouth (AT&T). Upgrade my friend! Your problems will be solved. >> > 10.4 is the end of the line for me. I have a G5 and need Classic PERIOD. > I need Word Perfect and no sheep saver or whatever . lFine. Put a bootable backup/clone of your current 10.4 installation onto another disk/volume internal (G5 towers hold more than one disk internally) or external and install Leopard on it. When you want OS 9 boot into the Tiger volume (or better yet OS 9 directly). That allows you to explore if Leopard provides any benefits-personal experience and not what others say-while retaining Tiger and OS 9. From baltwo at san.rr.com Thu Feb 7 19:15:30 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Thu Feb 7 19:15:50 2008 Subject: [X4U] HD almost FULL!! In-Reply-To: <20080208024454.B3AABC1FDD4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080208024454.B3AABC1FDD4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 02/07/08, Dan A Currie wrote: > > My computer, an MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 320 GB HD's / NETSCAPE > 7.2 / OS X.4.7, has been telling me for a week now that my HD is almost FULL. > > Is it possible to re-partition without losing all of my information or > do I just copy the HD to a storage disk and then set up new partitions? Not enough information. Run this command in the Terminal.app (in /Applications/Utilities/) and post the results: df -h IIRC, your machine can hold more than one HD internally. You list 320 GB HD's, but don't say how many or how much space is being used. If you also have ext HDs available, post their numbers and sizes. The following articles have some good tips: Freeing space on your Mac OS X startup disk at Freeing Up Hard Disk Space at: Running maintenance routines is critical to keeping the drive clear of unneccesary files: From dancurr at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 7 19:29:06 2008 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Thu Feb 7 19:29:14 2008 Subject: [X4U] HD almost FULL! Update! In-Reply-To: References: <20080208024454.B3AABC1FDD4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <47ABCC82.60708@frontiernet.net> John Baltutis wrote: >On 02/07/08, Dan A Currie wrote: > > >>My computer, an MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 320 GB HD's / NETSCAPE 7.2 / OS X.4.7, has been telling me for a week now that my HD is almost FULL. >> >>Is it possible to re-partition without losing all of my information or do I just copy the HD to a storage disk and then set up new partitions? >> >> > >Not enough information. Run this command in the Terminal.app (in >/Applications/Utilities/) and post the results: df -h > >IIRC, your machine can hold more than one HD internally. You list 320 GB HD's, but don't say how many or how much space is being used. If you also have ext HDs available, post their numbers and sizes. > > Two HD, 1 - 120GB in 3 partitions - 20GB w/19.75GB used, 40GB w/11.4 used and 60Gb w/30 used. The other 200GB is for video storage and editing. >The following articles have some good tips: > >Freeing space on your Mac OS X startup disk at > > >Freeing Up Hard Disk Space at: > > >Running maintenance routines is critical to keeping the drive clear of unneccesary files: > > > > Thanks for the websites and I run Disk Utilities and AppleJack routinely. Is it possible to realign the partitions and increase the space in the first partition from 20 to 40 without losing data? Dan Currie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080207/4beb87b4/attachment.html From jeepxj97 at durango.net Thu Feb 7 19:44:17 2008 From: jeepxj97 at durango.net (Robb McDonald) Date: Thu Feb 7 19:44:28 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: <2B79A440-DCE2-487D-A5B0-B67333E68273@cox.net> Message-ID: I have the option to burn a dual layer with my version of DVD2One. Once you have selected the ripped folder, it's under "settings", then "output" DVD-R(W)-DL On 2/7/08 7:44 PM, "Nick Scalise" wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Crandon David wrote: > >> Cool, so MacTheRipper (which I've got going already) doesn't burn >> the new disc, right? >> >> DVD2One can do that, but how about if I don't want to compress it >> onto one disc? I've got a Dual Layer DVD burner, so what else would >> you recommend for burning? > > > Once MacTheRipper has copied your DVD to your hard drive, you can use > toast to burn back to a DVD that will play on your settop DVD Player. > > In Toast 7, choose the Video tab. > > From there in the drawer that slides out on the left, choose DVD- > Video from VIDEO_TS, drag the VIDEO_TS folder that MacTheRipper just > created for you. > > Now, you can choose whether you want to compress to fit on a single > layer DVD or burn to dual layer DVD. > > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From macmonster at myrealbox.com Thu Feb 7 21:34:50 2008 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Thu Feb 7 21:35:05 2008 Subject: [X4U] Cable modem vs router In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <963F788B-7A9E-4A86-BD1F-E25810A177CE@myrealbox.com> On 8 Feb 2008, at 00:19, Jonnythan wrote: > ... > I was wondering whether it would be a good plan to install an > ethernet card > and run the cable modem directly from that, whilst leaving the router > connected to the built-in ethernet? Does anyone have any idea > whether that > would work and be as good as running from the built-in ethernet? * mind boggles * I have no idea how this might work. Are you saying that your modem has more than one ethernet port? HINT: if so, it's not just a modem, but a router, too. > Or is there anything else available that might help e.g. some sort of > adapter to plug two devices into the built-in ethernet (i.e. a sort of > router without any of a router's impedence)? A router should give no significant speed impedance - by "significant" I mean "measurable in milliseconds". If your modem already has a router built-in then - should you wish to increase the number of ports available - you should use a network switch, rather than a router. If your modem is indeed just a modem - as I would imagine to be the case - then a switch is probably the only thing to use in order to connect multiple computers. I think you should start your explanation - and your own analysis - from scratch and demonstrate to us how you know your "speed is twice as good" when going straight from the modem to the Mac's built-in ethernet. Tell us what ISP you're with & what model of cable modem you have. I know next to nothing about cable-modems, but others here may well have faced the same scenario as you. Stroller. From brettnlis at bigpond.com Thu Feb 7 23:00:16 2008 From: brettnlis at bigpond.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Thu Feb 7 23:00:32 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi David, Yes, MacTheRipper is your buddy for removing copy protectiuon as others have noted. I'm not sure about 10.4 but on 10.5, once you have a folder containing the VIDEO_TS folder (and perhaps the DVD also has other items in it like PC games or other additional files in there too) a FREE and easy way to create a UDF formatted disc (UDF is the native format for DVD players - some players may reject non-UDF formatted discs) is to launch Disk Utility and choose "Disc Image from Folder" under the File/ New menus. Then choose the DVD folder created by MacTheRipper and specify "hyb rid image (HFS+/ISO/UDF) from the format menu and save the image file to wherever you want. You can then use Disc Utility or Toast Lite to burn the image. I had a look in 10.3's Disk Utility and it doesn't have the hybrid format option. Cheers, Cojcolds ps. I also have a small AppleScript droplet app that will create a UDF formatted ISO file from a dropped folder and burn it for you if you like. On 08/02/2008, at 8:14 AM, Crandon David wrote: > OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their own > personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about copying it? > > Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the CSS > copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since it > doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play in > DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan on > the disc... > > Can anyone help? > > David > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Thu Feb 7 23:48:15 2008 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Thu Feb 7 23:48:39 2008 Subject: [X4U] Cable modem vs router In-Reply-To: <20080208024455.4B296C1FDDB@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080208024455.4B296C1FDDB@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >From: Jonnythan >I'm having a problem getting my cable modem to work at full speed via my >router. My speed is twice as good when I go straight from the modem to the >Mac's built-in ethernet (Dual 2.7 GHz PowerPC G5, OS X 10.4.9). >I thought the problem might be the age of the router, but buying a new one >only improved the situation slightly. I need a router to link up with >another Mac and a networked printer, but it isn't essential that I get >internet access for anything else. >I was wondering whether it would be a good plan to install an ethernet card >and run the cable modem directly from that, whilst leaving the router >connected to the built-in ethernet? Does anyone have any idea whether that >would work and be as good as running from the built-in ethernet? >Or is there anything else available that might help e.g. some sort of >adapter to plug two devices into the built-in ethernet (i.e. a sort of >router without any of a router's impedence)? What makes / models are the old & new routers? A basic 100Mbps router should be faster than any domestic network feed. There must be some incompatible setting between either the Router and the Modem or the Mac and the Router that's causing stuff to be fully stored and forwarded rather than passed along only slightly delayed. If the Router has a Firewall and it's set up, each packet will have to be compared to its tables before passing it on. The overhead for NAT (Network Address Translation, which the Router will be doing) is small. The things to look out for are Full/Half Duplex (which I havn't seen a setting for) and MTU, which is the maximum packet length. If the Modem is using packets longer that 1500, then the Mac will handle it, but the Router might need a setting changed else each packet will have to be split and reconstructed. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. HP-UX specialist of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Feb 8 00:13:11 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Feb 8 00:13:26 2008 Subject: [X4U] HD almost FULL! Update! In-Reply-To: <20080208074855.29469C2875B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080208074855.29469C2875B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 02/07/08, Dan A Currie wrote: > John Baltutis wrote: >>On 02/07/08, Dan A Currie wrote: >> >>>My computer, an MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 320 GB HD's / NETSCAPE 7.2 / >>>OS X.4.7, has been telling me for a week now that my HD is almostFULL. >>> >>>Is it possible to re-partition without losing all of my information or do I >>>just copy the HD to a storage disk and then set up new partitions? >> >>Not enough information. Run this command in the Terminal.app (in >>/Applications/Utilities/) and post the results: df -h >> >>IIRC, your machine can hold more than one HD internally. You list 320 GB >>HD's, but don't say how many or how much space is being used. If you alsohave >>ext HDs available, post their numbers and sizes. >> > Two HD, 1 - 120GB in 3 partitions - 20GB w/19.75GB used, 40GB w/11.4 > used and 60Gb w/30 used. The other 200GB is for video storage and editing. So, no external HD. > Is it possible to realign the partitions and increase the space in the > first partition from 20 to 40 without losing data? No. Best solution IMO is to get another 200+ bare HD, one of these externalcases and , pop the bare HD into it, partitioning the new external to better suit your needs, putting a bootable backup/clone, using Carbon Copy Cloner, SuperDuper!, Disk Utility, etc., onto it, ensuring that it can boot the machine, swap the HDs, and subsequently erase and partition the oldHD residing in the new case. Just my 2?. From Robert at Ameeti.net Fri Feb 8 07:05:43 2008 From: Robert at Ameeti.net (Robert Ameeti) Date: Fri Feb 8 07:21:48 2008 Subject: [X4U] HD almost FULL! Update! In-Reply-To: References: <20080208074855.29469C2875B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: At 12:13 AM -0800, 2/8/08, John Baltutis wrote: >>Two HD, 1 - 120GB in 3 partitions - 20GB w/19.75GB used, 40GB >>w/11.4 used and 60Gb w/30 used. The other 200GB is for video >>storage and editing. >> >>Is it possible to realign the partitions and increase the space in >>the first partition from 20 to 40 without losing data? > >No. Actually, it might be possible. It depends on the order of the partitions on the drive. Open Disk Utility and click on the drive on the left side. You should see a Partition tab on the right side. Select the Partition tab. The order of the partitions will show in the graphic. If the 20 GB is the last one, you are in luck. The last partition can be removed and then the 2nd partition can be enlarged to accommodate that unallocated space. If the last partition is the 20 GB, then you can copy that partition to the 60 GB partition, and then delete the 20 GB and enlarge the 2nd partition. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Robert Ameeti Don't tell any big lies today. Small ones can be just as effective. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From bob at andrisfamily.net Fri Feb 8 12:03:29 2008 From: bob at andrisfamily.net (Robert (Bob) P. Andris) Date: Fri Feb 8 12:03:40 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Diskwarrior question In-Reply-To: <20080208024454.6B85EC1FDD1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080208024454.6B85EC1FDD1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <1166C2E4-AE6E-4455-AF49-F51F737A154E@andrisfamily.net> > Think twice about using 4.0 booted from a Tiger disk of any variety, on a Leopard volume. Ask me how I know! Check Alsoft's web site. In essence, they say, if you absolutely, positively, have to do it . . . then boot from a Leopard volume. Also, version 4.1 already exists, and if you just want to update your 4.0 version they have a free patch that should be available very soon - I figure when they are finished selling 4.1 to new customers. FYI, Bob > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:16:30 -0800 > From: John Baltutis > Subject: Re: [X4U] Diskwarrior question > To: x4u@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On 02/06/08, Cyn wrote: >> >> I have a Diskwarrior CD Rev 40. Will this work with Leopard? > > Yes, as long as you run it from a Tiger boot volume or while booted > from the DW > disk. Don't run it while booted into Leopard. See > for details. Note, > that the > update for 4.0 users is coming SOON (that's what they said in > October), so it's > not clear they understand what soon means. From rgilmor at uwo.ca Fri Feb 8 12:43:49 2008 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Fri Feb 8 12:44:51 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mac The Ripper From tabdave at ca.rr.com Fri Feb 8 17:03:24 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Fri Feb 8 17:03:34 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <26416838-8B90-4CA4-B950-9A03BE9AD56B@ca.rr.com> Hey Brett, Thanks for your reply. I used MacTheRipper and it came out fine. I then tried Toast 6 to make a copy using the DATA tab, and chose DVD-ROM (UDF). It burned OK, but verification said it had a bad sector, and sure enough about halfway through it froze. This happened twice more, once with Toast 7. Next I tried Fast DVD Copy and it burned it OK, it's playing now, and I'll see if it plays through all the way. But while it IS playing on my 3 year old Pioneer DVD player, Apples DVD Player on my computer wouldn't recognize it. I also noticed that the icon of the disc on my computer was titled "DVD MOVIE" and not the real title of the disc. (Led Zeppelin I). Launching Disk Utility (I'm using 10.4.11), doesn't show exactly the chose for formatting as you suggested, but it does have two options that might work...you tell me. One is "DVD/CD Master" and the other is "UDIF stub". There are many others of course. What do you think? These coasters are getting expensive! Although Fry's has there store brand DVD+R for a little over a buck each. David On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > Hi David, > > Yes, MacTheRipper is your buddy for removing copy protectiuon as > others have noted. > > I'm not sure about 10.4 but on 10.5, once you have a folder > containing the VIDEO_TS folder (and perhaps the DVD also has other > items in it like PC games or other additional files in there too) a > FREE and easy way to create a UDF formatted disc (UDF is the native > format for DVD players - some players may reject non-UDF formatted > discs) is to launch Disk Utility and choose "Disc Image from > Folder" under the File/New menus. Then choose the DVD folder > created by MacTheRipper and specify "hyb rid image (HFS+/ISO/UDF) > from the format menu and save the image file to wherever you want. > You can then use Disc Utility or Toast Lite to burn the image. > > I had a look in 10.3's Disk Utility and it doesn't have the hybrid > format option. > > Cheers, > > Cojcolds > > ps. I also have a small AppleScript droplet app that will create a > UDF formatted ISO file from a dropped folder and burn it for you if > you like. > > > On 08/02/2008, at 8:14 AM, Crandon David wrote: > >> OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their >> own personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about >> copying it? >> >> Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the >> CSS copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since >> it doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play >> in DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan >> on the disc... >> >> Can anyone help? >> >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// >> www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From tabdave at ca.rr.com Fri Feb 8 17:12:35 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Fri Feb 8 17:12:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7E75656C-D281-4F1E-BD89-7AC45FE11583@ca.rr.com> Update...the disc made with Fast DVD Copy lost audio and then froze a little while later... On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > Hi David, > > Yes, MacTheRipper is your buddy for removing copy protectiuon as > others have noted. > > I'm not sure about 10.4 but on 10.5, once you have a folder > containing the VIDEO_TS folder (and perhaps the DVD also has other > items in it like PC games or other additional files in there too) a > FREE and easy way to create a UDF formatted disc (UDF is the native > format for DVD players - some players may reject non-UDF formatted > discs) is to launch Disk Utility and choose "Disc Image from > Folder" under the File/New menus. Then choose the DVD folder > created by MacTheRipper and specify "hyb rid image (HFS+/ISO/UDF) > from the format menu and save the image file to wherever you want. > You can then use Disc Utility or Toast Lite to burn the image. > > I had a look in 10.3's Disk Utility and it doesn't have the hybrid > format option. > > Cheers, > > Cojcolds > > ps. I also have a small AppleScript droplet app that will create a > UDF formatted ISO file from a dropped folder and burn it for you if > you like. > > > On 08/02/2008, at 8:14 AM, Crandon David wrote: > >> OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their >> own personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about >> copying it? >> >> Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the >> CSS copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since >> it doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play >> in DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan >> on the disc... >> >> Can anyone help? >> >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// >> www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From nickscalise at cox.net Fri Feb 8 18:46:36 2008 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Fri Feb 8 18:46:48 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: <7E75656C-D281-4F1E-BD89-7AC45FE11583@ca.rr.com> References: <7E75656C-D281-4F1E-BD89-7AC45FE11583@ca.rr.com> Message-ID: There is another free utility out there for making DVD images called 'DVD Imager'. It takes your VIDEO_TS folder and creates a DVD UDF disk image that you can then burn with DiskUtility. This will also let you test viewing from the image. Available through VersionTracker.com. On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Crandon David wrote: > Update...the disc made with Fast DVD Copy lost audio and then froze > a little while later... > On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > >> Yes, MacTheRipper is your buddy for removing copy protectiuon as >> others have noted. >> >> I'm not sure about 10.4 but on 10.5, once you have a folder >> containing the VIDEO_TS folder (and perhaps the DVD also has other >> items in it like PC games or other additional files in there too) a >> FREE and easy way to create a UDF formatted disc (UDF is the native >> format for DVD players - some players may reject non-UDF formatted >> discs) is to launch Disk Utility and choose "Disc Image from >> Folder" under the File/New menus. Then choose the DVD folder >> created by MacTheRipper and specify "hyb rid image (HFS+/ISO/UDF) >> from the format menu and save the image file to wherever you want. >> You can then use Disc Utility or Toast Lite to burn the image. >> >> I had a look in 10.3's Disk Utility and it doesn't have the hybrid >> format option. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Cojcolds >> >> ps. I also have a small AppleScript droplet app that will create a >> UDF formatted ISO file from a dropped folder and burn it for you if >> you like. >> >> On 08/02/2008, at 8:14 AM, Crandon David wrote: >> >>> OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their >>> own personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about >>> copying it? >>> >>> Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the >>> CSS copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since >>> it doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play >>> in DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan >>> on the disc... >>> >>> Can anyone help? >>> -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From brettnlis at bigpond.com Fri Feb 8 18:57:06 2008 From: brettnlis at bigpond.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Fri Feb 8 18:57:20 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: <26416838-8B90-4CA4-B950-9A03BE9AD56B@ca.rr.com> References: <26416838-8B90-4CA4-B950-9A03BE9AD56B@ca.rr.com> Message-ID: <4185C405-1E94-4E63-A0DB-73B3D69E03F6@bigpond.com> Hiya, I only have Toast Lite so have never had access to its DVD-ROM (UDF) option. UDIF (Universal Disc Image Format) is Apple's OSX Disc Image format (.dmg files). I don't believe it will suit DVD purposes. However, I did find a neat trick for accessing Disk Utility's hidden formats. Just type the following into Terminal (press return) then launch Disk Utility and try creating an image as per before. See if a UDF/ISO format option is available - I tested this in 10.3.9 but there isn't a UDF/ISO option. defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility advanced-image-options 1 I can't find any information on the "DVD/CD Master" format but from my past experience it hasn't created a DVD disc that will work in my player so I'm a bit mystified about what it is used for... Oh, and when I'm experimenting with creating DVD discs I always first use a re-writable disc until I get it right - no coasters that way! Cheers, Coj On 09/02/2008, at 12:03 PM, Crandon David wrote: > Hey Brett, > > Thanks for your reply. > > I used MacTheRipper and it came out fine. I then tried Toast 6 to > make a copy using the DATA tab, and chose DVD-ROM (UDF). It burned > OK, but verification said it had a bad sector, and sure enough about > halfway through it froze. This happened twice more, once with Toast 7. > > Next I tried Fast DVD Copy and it burned it OK, it's playing now, > and I'll see if it plays through all the way. But while it IS > playing on my 3 year old Pioneer DVD player, Apples DVD Player on my > computer wouldn't recognize it. I also noticed that the icon of the > disc on my computer was titled "DVD MOVIE" and not the real title of > the disc. (Led Zeppelin I). > > Launching Disk Utility (I'm using 10.4.11), doesn't show exactly the > chose for formatting as you suggested, but it does have two options > that might work...you tell me. One is "DVD/CD Master" and the other > is "UDIF stub". There are many others of course. > > What do you think? These coasters are getting expensive! Although > Fry's has there store brand DVD+R for a little over a buck each. > > David > > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> Yes, MacTheRipper is your buddy for removing copy protectiuon as >> others have noted. >> >> I'm not sure about 10.4 but on 10.5, once you have a folder >> containing the VIDEO_TS folder (and perhaps the DVD also has other >> items in it like PC games or other additional files in there too) a >> FREE and easy way to create a UDF formatted disc (UDF is the native >> format for DVD players - some players may reject non-UDF formatted >> discs) is to launch Disk Utility and choose "Disc Image from >> Folder" under the File/New menus. Then choose the DVD folder >> created by MacTheRipper and specify "hyb rid image (HFS+/ISO/UDF) >> from the format menu and save the image file to wherever you want. >> You can then use Disc Utility or Toast Lite to burn the image. >> >> I had a look in 10.3's Disk Utility and it doesn't have the hybrid >> format option. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Cojcolds >> >> ps. I also have a small AppleScript droplet app that will create a >> UDF formatted ISO file from a dropped folder and burn it for you if >> you like. >> >> >> On 08/02/2008, at 8:14 AM, Crandon David wrote: >> >>> OK, since the courts have said it's OK for someone to have their >>> own personal copy of a commercial CD or DVD, how do I go about >>> copying it? >>> >>> Toast 7 & 8 won't let me make a copy when the movie DVD has the >>> CSS copy protection scheme. Toast 6 will let me make a copy since >>> it doesn't notice the CSS protection, but then the copy won't play >>> in DVD Player because it doesn't have the CSS copy protection plan >>> on the disc... >>> >>> Can anyone help? >>> >>> David >>> _______________________________________________ >>> X4U mailing list >>> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >>> >>> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Feb 8 19:09:30 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Feb 8 19:09:46 2008 Subject: [X4U] HD almost FULL! Update! In-Reply-To: <20080209025732.EF979C550C1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080209025732.EF979C550C1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 02/08/08, Robert Ameeti wrote: > At 12:13 AM -0800, 2/8/08, John Baltutis wrote: > >>>Two HD, 1 - 120GB in 3 partitions - 20GB w/19.75GB used, 40GB >>>w/11.4 used and 60Gb w/30 used. The other 200GB is for video >>>storage and editing. >>> >>>Is it possible to realign the partitions and increase the space in >>>the first partition from 20 to 40 without losing data? >> >>No. > > Actually, it might be possible. It depends on the order of the > partitions on the drive. > > Open Disk Utility and click on the drive on the left side. You should > see a Partition tab on the right side. Select the Partition tab. The > order of the partitions will show in the graphic. If the 20 GB is the > last one, you are in luck. > > The last partition can be removed and then the 2nd partition can be > enlarged to accommodate that unallocated space. If the last partition > is the 20 GB, then you can copy that partition to the 60 GB > partition, and then delete the 20 GB and enlarge the 2nd partition. The OP's running Tiger. What you're suggesting is, IIRC, only available in Leopard. From macmonster at myrealbox.com Sat Feb 9 02:10:48 2008 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Sat Feb 9 02:11:03 2008 Subject: [X4U] Making a DVD copy-CSS protection In-Reply-To: <26416838-8B90-4CA4-B950-9A03BE9AD56B@ca.rr.com> References: <26416838-8B90-4CA4-B950-9A03BE9AD56B@ca.rr.com> Message-ID: <202B5E09-9779-4D83-A93C-9950929DBDD4@myrealbox.com> On 9 Feb 2008, at 01:03, Crandon David wrote: > ... > I used MacTheRipper and it came out fine. I then tried Toast 6 to > make a copy using the DATA tab, and chose DVD-ROM (UDF). It burned > OK, but verification said it had a bad sector, and sure enough > about halfway through it froze. This happened twice more, once with > Toast 7. On 9 Feb 2008, at 01:12, Crandon David wrote: > Update...the disc made with Fast DVD Copy lost audio and then froze > a little while later... If the failures are happening halfway through a 9gig DVD then the problem is at the layer change. I also had this recently, with a 2.5 year old Pioneer drive which has never burned dual-layer disks well. I had always wrote it off to "dodgy media" in the past - sometimes the disks would play fine in the same drive but not in others - but the other week I happened to have a new dvd-writer handy, purchased for a customer for installation the next da