From jamesrob at sonic.net Sat Mar 1 06:25:29 2008 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Sat Mar 1 06:39:32 2008 Subject: [X4U] E-Mail programs (Was: Users' judgments of the glossy screen?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 2/27/08 11:15 AM, "Jesse Leo" wrote: > Some might argue that one monolithic database, while possibly prone to > corruption, is far easier to backup/restore and/or quickly move to a > different computer. Any thoughts? The flip side of that is that it needs to be backed up IN TOTAL every time you open it because that resets the modified flag. My Entourage database is a relatively modest 2 gigabytes. I do move the whole thing back and forth between Mac Pro and MacBook Pro as the way to have a backup copy (Entourage also makes backups to the drive where it exists). However, if you're doing incremental backups of your entire drive, adding 2 gigs to that backup every time uses media rather quickly. Jim Robertson -- From ronsteinke at mac.com Sat Mar 1 16:33:36 2008 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Sat Mar 1 16:33:55 2008 Subject: [X4U] I could need a favor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <983978D4-2749-4314-8969-CFCECBEB330E@mac.com> On 28 Feb, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > I'm looking for a US citizen to order a 69$ drive Paul, Contact me offboard at ronsteinke@mac.com. I may be willing to assist you if we can arrange communication separate from the G4 board. From lists at mac.com Tue Mar 4 17:53:57 2008 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Tue Mar 4 17:54:14 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations Message-ID: I'm looking to replace my ink-jet printer with a multi-function one that can also scan, copy, and fax. I don't print a lot, less than a couple hundred pages per year. I scan even less, but I want to save the trip to Kinkos every time I get a photo that I want to scan in. I normally fax my tax documents to my accountant every year, but I might just scan and e-mail once I have a scanner. I have G5 and G4 PowerMacs, plus an iBook on a network, so Ethernet or wifi would be nice too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. From randy at macattorney.com Tue Mar 4 18:48:03 2008 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Tue Mar 4 18:48:17 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62A6804E-FC77-4546-B577-8568875B8B7C@macattorney.com> On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:53 PM, Neil wrote: > I'm looking to replace my ink-jet printer with a multi-function... If you need a color inkjet, I highly recommend the Canon Pixmas: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller? act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=123 If you need a black and white laser I recommend the Brother flatbed sheetfeed's: http://www.brother-usa.com/mfc/BW_Monochrome_Laser_Multifunction/ I'm afraid that I have to recommend against anything from HP. Even though their hardware is good, their Mac drivers and Mac support are often disappointing. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From chomiak7737 at att.net Tue Mar 4 19:21:20 2008 From: chomiak7737 at att.net (Cheryl Homiak) Date: Tue Mar 4 19:21:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] hp 4600c scanjet scanner with Tiger Intel machine Message-ID: <003901c87e6f$fd08ef70$80f210ac@cheryld3c31ebe> Hi all. I'm trying to help somebody set up an hp 4600c scanjet scanner (apparently may be a scanner/printer); I'm doing it by phone and email so am not seeing the person's equipment but she is using an Intel macbook running Tiger. we were able to find the hp driver for the scanner. However, this scanner apparently uses a parallel connection so a usb-parallel cable must be used. Does anybody know whether this scanner will work with a usb-parallel cable on the mac and if so, is a driver needed for the cable. My only experience is with usb-serial cables, and these do need drivers. Also, I was not able to establish whether or not the hp driver was ppc only or works with intel though it at least appeared to install successfully. If anybody knows anything about the use of this scanner with the Mac, your input would be appreciated. Tia. Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080304/5c4ffab3/attachment-0001.html From robertmacleay at mac.com Tue Mar 4 20:16:34 2008 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Tue Mar 4 20:16:49 2008 Subject: [X4U] hp 4600c scanjet scanner with Tiger Intel machine In-Reply-To: <20080305032136.BC596113848E@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 3/4/08 8:21 PM, " Cheryl Homiak " wrote: > > I'm trying to help somebody set up an hp 4600c scanjet scanner (apparently may > be a scanner/printer); I'm doing it by phone and email so am not seeing the > person's equipment but she is using an Intel macbook running Tiger. we were > able to find the hp driver for the scanner. However, this scanner apparently > uses a parallel connection so a usb-parallel cable must be used. Does anybody > know whether this scanner will work with a usb-parallel cable on the mac and > if so, is a driver needed for the cable. My only experience is with usb-serial > cables, and these do need drivers. Also, I was not able to establish whether > or not the hp driver was ppc only or works with intel though it at least > appeared to install successfully. You can download the ScanJet 4600 series manual here: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/bps05909.pdf The 4600s are obsolete USB 2.0 scanners dating back to 2003, although HP does supply Tiger-compatible software. There were, of course, no Intel Macs to write software for in 2003. I don't see anything about parallel connectors in the documentation. The first thing I would ask your correspondent is whether they have the power brick. No laptop is going to provide enough power to operate a scanner. This gadget uses a y-connector to inject power into the USB cable. The brick is shown in the manual, although HP does not bother to describe it in the documentation, or tell you what to do with it. From bob at andrisfamily.net Tue Mar 4 21:28:39 2008 From: bob at andrisfamily.net (Robert (Bob) P. Andris) Date: Tue Mar 4 21:28:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Multi-function Printer Recommendations (Neil) In-Reply-To: <20080305032140.6807B11384A4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080305032140.6807B11384A4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <5C7CBD90-D48D-478D-89E5-C4B1C35EEC03@andrisfamily.net> Have a Canon Pixma MP610. Had it now for about 6 mo. Over the years, I've found that one of the most important properties is the reliability of its paper feed. This one is outstanding. It is also an ink miser. Still on the original cartridges! Does color or black and white copying. And the big deal with printing is it does double- sided "duplex". Couldn't be happier with it, Bob On Mar 4, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Neil wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:53:57 -0500 > From: Neil > Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations > To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I'm looking to replace my ink-jet printer with a multi-function one > that can also scan, copy, and fax. I don't print a lot, less than a > couple hundred pages per year. I scan even less, but I want to save > the trip to Kinkos every time I get a photo that I want to scan > in. I normally fax my tax documents to my accountant every year, but > I might just scan and e-mail once I have a scanner. I have G5 and G4 > PowerMacs, plus an iBook on a network, so Ethernet or wifi would be > nice too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. From peterstj at earthlink.net Wed Mar 5 07:00:41 2008 From: peterstj at earthlink.net (Peter Saint James) Date: Wed Mar 5 07:00:56 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84FFA898-036D-476E-B330-7247068E473F@earthlink.net> On 4 March2008, at 8:53 PM, Neil wrote: > I'm looking to replace my ink-jet printer with a multi-function one > that can also scan, copy, and fax. I don't print a lot, less than > a couple hundred pages per year. I will second the recommendation to look for one from Cannon. HP used to be my brand of choice, but it has decreased greatly in quality, especially in software quality, in my experience. In my experience, Epson printers tend to print outstanding images, but they need to be used fairly often or they clog. This experience is fairly old, so that problem may have been solved in newer machines, but it's something to check on because of your low volume of printing. Good luck. Peter From tlmiller at mac.com Wed Mar 5 07:11:24 2008 From: tlmiller at mac.com (T.L. Miller) Date: Wed Mar 5 07:11:40 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Multi-function Printer Recommendations (Neil) In-Reply-To: <5C7CBD90-D48D-478D-89E5-C4B1C35EEC03@andrisfamily.net> References: <20080305032140.6807B11384A4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <5C7CBD90-D48D-478D-89E5-C4B1C35EEC03@andrisfamily.net> Message-ID: <20080305151124.501167724@smtp.mac.com> On 3/4/08, at 9:28 PM, Robert (Bob) P. Andris bob@andrisfamily.net said: >Have a Canon Pixma MP610. Had it now for about 6 mo. Over the years, >I've found that one of the most important properties is the >reliability of its paper feed. This one is outstanding. It is also >an ink miser. Still on the original cartridges! Does color or black >and white copying. And the big deal with printing is it does double- >sided "duplex". If you print with it by plugging into it into an Airport Express, is there any way to easily transfer scans to your computer? Tom Miller .................................................. "The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side." R.O.Clark ................................................... From tabdave at ca.rr.com Wed Mar 5 07:58:59 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Wed Mar 5 08:00:02 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations In-Reply-To: <84FFA898-036D-476E-B330-7247068E473F@earthlink.net> References: <84FFA898-036D-476E-B330-7247068E473F@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <42B3CE8E-3BAA-4773-B6E5-2D8B91487B62@ca.rr.com> I am extrememly happy with my 7600 series from HP purchased at Costco for under $300. They claim printing costs are very low, it's got built in duplex (two sided) printing and the software driver is great. David On Mar 5, 2008, at 7:00 AM, Peter Saint James wrote: > > On 4 March2008, at 8:53 PM, Neil wrote: > >> I'm looking to replace my ink-jet printer with a multi-function >> one that can also scan, copy, and fax. I don't print a lot, less >> than a couple hundred pages per year. > > > I will second the recommendation to look for one from Cannon. HP > used to be my brand of choice, but it has decreased greatly in > quality, especially in software quality, in my experience. In my > experience, Epson printers tend to print outstanding images, but > they need to be used fairly often or they clog. This experience is > fairly old, so that problem may have been solved in newer machines, > but it's something to check on because of your low volume of printing. > > Good luck. > > > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From lists at mac.com Wed Mar 5 09:58:16 2008 From: lists at mac.com (Neil) Date: Wed Mar 5 09:58:36 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <620512D0-ADCC-4D77-A51C-BF5037F39F71@mac.com> Thanks to everybody for the advice and suggestions. I just came home from Circuit City with a Canon Pixma MX700. On Mar 4, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Neil wrote: > I'm looking to replace my ink-jet printer with a multi-function one > that can also scan, copy, and fax. I don't print a lot, less than > a couple hundred pages per year. I scan even less, but I want to > save the trip to Kinkos every time I get a photo that I want to > scan in. I normally fax my tax documents to my accountant every > year, but I might just scan and e-mail once I have a scanner. I > have G5 and G4 PowerMacs, plus an iBook on a network, so Ethernet > or wifi would be nice too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080305/eb299f9a/attachment.html From randy at macattorney.com Wed Mar 5 11:43:59 2008 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Wed Mar 5 11:44:12 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations In-Reply-To: <620512D0-ADCC-4D77-A51C-BF5037F39F71@mac.com> References: <620512D0-ADCC-4D77-A51C-BF5037F39F71@mac.com> Message-ID: <95C1BDBB-6BC6-4B08-96D3-5AC55B632FD9@macattorney.com> On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Neil wrote: > I just came home from Circuit City with a Canon Pixma MX700. Mazel tov! Enjoy! Your printer takes expensive Canon ink cartridges. About $14 each! Replacing all 4 can cost a lot! And if you do any sort of moderate printing, you will be replacing them often. Meritline has excellent compatible cartridges for about $2.30/each for color and $3.11 for higher capacity black cartridge. Your printer takes these cartridges: PGI-5 (black) http://www.meritline.com/canon-pgi5bk-black-compatible-inkjet- cartridge.html CLI-8C (cyan) http://www.meritline.com/canon-cli8c-cyan-compatible-inkjet- cartridge.html CLI-8M (magenta) http://www.meritline.com/canon-cli8m-magenta-compatible-inkjet- cartridge.html CLI-8Y (yellow) http://www.meritline.com/canon-cli8y-yellow-compatible-inkjet- cartridge.html Using Meritline's cartridges you can replace all of your printer's cartridges for closer to $10, instead of $60 from Canon. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From trylk at satx.rr.com Wed Mar 5 12:41:13 2008 From: trylk at satx.rr.com (Allen Brewer) Date: Wed Mar 5 12:42:03 2008 Subject: [X4U] Users' judgments of the glossy screen? In-Reply-To: <727DCBBF-0C47-44B5-A63F-AFCE37C79C54@earthlink.net> References: <47B5A570.8090909@mindspring.com> <96B104CA-480D-4063-8DB7-400D68FD2124@charter.net> <03956E97-962B-4341-841E-AEDBB8FEEB1E@charter.net> <1047DCF0-5398-423F-80A7-E60DDCF3BEB5@charter.net> <727DCBBF-0C47-44B5-A63F-AFCE37C79C54@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I have a new 20" iMac and a year old Macbook. No issues with glossy screens for me. On Feb 26, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Ray Choiniere wrote: > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Konrad Waibel wrote: > >> I will apologize up front for tossing out a rant about disliking >> glossy screens, looks like I didn't see how annoyed I was until now >> about the iMac's being all glossy screens. > > I have worried about that glossy screen myself. In my setting it's > rather difficult for me to avoid getting some reflections from both > lights and windows on my iMac screen. The matte screen has meant > that I have not been greatly disturbed by them, but I'm concerned > that if I get a new iMac I will be badly distracted. > > I wonder what others' experience has been with the glossy screen, > and would be pleased to hear what this august body of Mac users has > to offer about the matter. > > Thanks; > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From kuestner at macnews.de Wed Mar 5 14:14:44 2008 From: kuestner at macnews.de (B. Kuestner) Date: Wed Mar 5 21:26:36 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: Multi-function Printer Recommendations (Neil) In-Reply-To: <20080305151124.501167724@smtp.mac.com> References: <20080305032140.6807B11384A4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <5C7CBD90-D48D-478D-89E5-C4B1C35EEC03@andrisfamily.net> <20080305151124.501167724@smtp.mac.com> Message-ID: <40834AE5-EEF4-4BA7-8066-3E298DECBEA9@macnews.de> On the lower end: The Samsung SCX-4200 starts at $150, and I am quite happy with it. Especially for the price. It prints well and has some neat copy functions like scale to fit, copy to poster (3x3 sheets), passport copy, ... Scanner integrates well with OS X. Bj?rn From jleo at projectsupport.com Thu Mar 6 06:07:40 2008 From: jleo at projectsupport.com (Jesse Leo) Date: Thu Mar 6 06:07:52 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations In-Reply-To: <20080306052653.67940117C2EA@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: None of the above - the toner carts cost as much as the *&#!$ unit itself, and last about two weeks with moderate use. We don't print at home anymore unless it's an emergency... From gene at macnightowl.com Thu Mar 6 06:13:07 2008 From: gene at macnightowl.com (Gene Steinberg) Date: Thu Mar 6 06:13:18 2008 Subject: [X4U] Multi-function Printer Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10629A93-F009-44D7-BB08-5B3D6A6C7F5E@macnightowl.com> On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Jesse Leo wrote: > None of the above - the toner carts cost as much as the *&#!$ unit > itself, > and last about two weeks with moderate use. We don't print at home > anymore > unless it's an emergency... My best experiences are with Canon multifunctions. Both the 830 and the new 850 are really great (the latter has built-in Ethernet). They print on a par with a standalone printer -- a rarity -- and Canon's consumables are relatively inexpensive in the scheme of things. Both use 5 ink tanks, separate colors, so you replace only the color that is used. Retail pricing is $15-16 per tank. Sam's Club sells combo packs with all 5 cartridges in the mid-50s (not always available but great when they are). As far as cost per page, this is about as low as you'll get with inkjet. Anything cheaper is laser. _ _ _ _ Peace, Gene Steinberg Publisher/Editor, The Mac Night Owl http://www.macnightowl.com. Host, The Tech Night Owl LIVE http://www.techbroadcasting.com Co-host, The Paracast http://www.theparacast.com Co-author, "Attack of the Rockoids" http://www.rockoids.com From overloadinfo at charter.net Thu Mar 6 13:56:39 2008 From: overloadinfo at charter.net (Konrad Waibel) Date: Thu Mar 6 13:56:55 2008 Subject: [X4U] MacBook Pro/Time Capsule Message-ID: <2A31ECA1-3F60-490C-B5E7-B81408608FBD@charter.net> My new MacBook Pro 2.5 GH and the Time Capsule 500GB are now up and running. Small issue getting the TC connecting to the MBP so I called Apple, tech rep got me sorted out, did my first Time Machine run this morning. I migrated only a few files from the old iMac to the MBP so I decided to let the backup proceed using wireless, 18GB took two hours, and for now I've decided to turn off the auto backup feature, don't need hourly backups. General Comments: the TC smells unlike any other new electronic product I've ever owned. Not sure if it comes from inside or from the cover, I do know I'm keeping the house ventilated the MBP case on the outside is warm but not hot IMO [I handled earlier MBP versions in an Apple Store, they were hot when I touched them] ,based on picking it up after 2.5 hours continuous running on electric power backing up to TC the TC runs very warm IMO, the top and bottom so much so that I placed it so air easily flows around the sides and top the Multi-Touch is a nice feature, the pinch-spread is especially useful surfing because I can quickly enlarge text the M-T will take some attention using it, it is almost too sensitive for me at times, but I'm learning. Regards, Konrad. From cmedbery at coxinet.net Thu Mar 6 17:24:57 2008 From: cmedbery at coxinet.net (Clinton Medbery III) Date: Thu Mar 6 17:25:09 2008 Subject: [X4U] LaCie RAID question Message-ID: I have a 2TB LaCie RAID drive with mirroring. Is there a way to be sure that the mirror is happening correctly? Model Name: Mac Pro Model Identifier: MacPro2,1 Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor Speed: 3 GHz Number Of Processors: 2 Total Number Of Cores: 8 L2 Cache (per processor): 8 MB Memory: 8 GB Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz Leopard 10.5.2 ######################################## "Write without pay until someone offers pay. If nobody offers within three years, the candidate may look upon this as a sign that sawing wood is what he was intended for." Mark Twain From dancurr at frontiernet.net Thu Mar 6 17:53:53 2008 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Thu Mar 6 17:54:06 2008 Subject: [X4U] HDS722516VLSA80 drive In-Reply-To: <43F114AB-C168-4D5E-A085-D86E7B9BDDD4@pandora.be> References: <200407132344.i6DNib405730@www.pureserver.de> <40F4E6A1.1030705@dsp-memory.de> <0F5FB346-D718-11D8-AD5F-000393DC7906@pandora.be> <40F7B82E.3010900@dsp-memory.de> <6CDCC5B3-EFD4-11D8-95A6-000393DC7906@pandora.be> <4121CD78.3000707@dsp-memory.de> <135304EF-F3BF-11D8-8E3D-000393DC7906@pandora.be> <4129A402.9020205@dsp-memory.de> <59A067F8-444D-11D9-A8D9-000D935704CE@pandora.be> <41AF0CAE.3020800@dsp-memory.de> <48C3455F-448A-11D9-A563-000D935704CE@pandora.be> <41AF5605.5000504@dsp-memory.de> <43F114AB-C168-4D5E-A085-D86E7B9BDDD4@pandora.be> Message-ID: <47D0A031.8060904@frontiernet.net> Paul Moortgat, Your drive arrived this afternoon, I will be out of town and in class all day Friday. I must mail 2 packages to Germany on Saturday and will send yours out then. I was hoping to send you a refund but the package is just less than a kilo so postage is $24.00. Invoice is : $69.00 1 - Hitachi Hard Drive $ 6.90 My 10% $10.00 S&H in US $24.00 S&H to Belgium (Damn that is high!) 109.90 TOTAL Ten bucks to clear the account and tell your friends. Same deal for everyone. Dan From michaelelliott at mac.com Sat Mar 8 12:51:10 2008 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sat Mar 8 12:51:27 2008 Subject: [X4U] Blu-Ray and DVD Player In-Reply-To: References: <484C99AF-A5FE-421A-87F2-4A77EDA39196@pandora.be> Message-ID: <93223C5E-9A8E-43AB-BE2D-72F40C828CD9@mac.com> I don't have a blu-ray disk drive, but the preferences for HD are not grayed out on my DVD Player preferences. Regarding HD, I don't think it's strange to have HD in the menu. You can play HD video off of a regular DVD that you've burned yourself from your own HD video, I believe, or probably even a CD. Just not much length can be fit on those disks. I'm pretty sure that HD doesn't mean Blu-Ray, and vice versa. On Feb 25, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Robert wrote: > Wen I put a Blu-ray disk into my drive (have installed a blu-ray > burner) Every thing is grayed out so I take it that this is for > future use. I do fined it strange that they have HD in the menu. If > any one can tell me how to play a Blu-ray disk in my Mac I would > appreciate it. At this moment I only use the drive for backup. Bob > On 25-Feb-08, at 8:53 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> When I look at the prefs from DVD Player at the end is a selection >> HD and when selected it gives some data. >> Is this for future use or what? Has anyone tested this with a real >> Blu-Ray disk? >> >> Paul Moortgat >> _______________ From faramineux at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 08:32:27 2008 From: faramineux at comcast.net (faramineux) Date: Mon Mar 10 08:32:47 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac Message-ID: A friend put a few .avi files on a DVD, burnt it on her PC. But the DVD is not mounting on my Mac. The DVDs are showing up on my PC laptop - bare-bone softwares on it - what's the best way to get the files from the PC to the Mac? TIA From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Mon Mar 10 08:39:08 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Mon Mar 10 08:39:56 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> Have you installed Flip4Mac? Paul Moortgat On 10 Mar 2008, at 16:32, faramineux wrote: > A friend put a few .avi files on a DVD, burnt it on her PC. But the > DVD is not mounting on my Mac. > The DVDs are showing up on my PC laptop - bare-bone softwares on it > - what's the best way to get the files from the PC to the Mac? > TIA From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Mar 10 08:45:19 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Mar 10 08:45:41 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/10/08 10:32 AM, faramineux wrote: > A friend put a few .avi files on a DVD, burnt it on her PC. But the > DVD is not mounting on my Mac. > The DVDs are showing up on my PC laptop - bare-bone softwares on it - > what's the best way to get the files from the PC to the Mac? Your friend needs to finalize the burn on her PC before passing it off to you. peace, Linda From macsys at mac.com Mon Mar 10 08:48:03 2008 From: macsys at mac.com (wilkinw) Date: Mon Mar 10 08:48:27 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> References: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> Message-ID: Paul, it won't even read the dvd! On Mar 10, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Have you installed Flip4Mac? > > Paul Moortgat > > On 10 Mar 2008, at 16:32, faramineux wrote: > >> A friend put a few .avi files on a DVD, burnt it on her PC. But the >> DVD is not mounting on my Mac. >> The DVDs are showing up on my PC laptop - bare-bone softwares on it >> - what's the best way to get the files from the PC to the Mac? >> TIA > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From faramineux at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 08:54:18 2008 From: faramineux at comcast.net (faramineux) Date: Mon Mar 10 08:54:45 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> References: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> Message-ID: <923F74BD-88DB-459C-9F5E-EB58640ED823@comcast.net> On Mar 10, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Have you installed Flip4Mac? > > Paul Moortgat > Paul, The DVD icon is NOT mounting on the Mac desktop. I cannot access the files. I can see the files on my PC -use VLC to look at them- but I want them on my Mac where the serious softwares will allow me to do things with them I cannot do on my PC because I have NO software, so to speak. From faramineux at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 08:55:31 2008 From: faramineux at comcast.net (faramineux) Date: Mon Mar 10 08:55:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 10, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Linda wrote: > > Your friend needs to finalize the burn on her PC before passing it > off to > you. > > peace, > Linda She might not know what "finalize" means. I don't. The files are on the DVD, I can play them on my PC. From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Mon Mar 10 09:01:46 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:01:57 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <923F74BD-88DB-459C-9F5E-EB58640ED823@comcast.net> References: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> <923F74BD-88DB-459C-9F5E-EB58640ED823@comcast.net> Message-ID: Don't you've an (mini or maxi) external HD which you can mount on the PC and then on the Mac? Copy it. Paul Moortgat On 10 Mar 2008, at 16:54, faramineux wrote: > On Mar 10, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> Have you installed Flip4Mac? >> >> Paul Moortgat >> > > > Paul, > The DVD icon is NOT mounting on the Mac desktop. I cannot access the > files. I can see the files on my PC -use VLC to look at them- but I > want them on my Mac where the serious softwares will allow me to do > things with them I cannot do on my PC because I have NO software, so > to speak. > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > From faramineux at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 09:04:43 2008 From: faramineux at comcast.net (faramineux) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:04:53 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> <923F74BD-88DB-459C-9F5E-EB58640ED823@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6C2F9801-D41B-4946-9DCC-9CD59356438F@comcast.net> I have an external USB hard drive, but I thought they had to be formatted for one OR the other system. On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > Don't you've an (mini or maxi) external HD which you can mount on > the PC and then on the Mac? Copy it. > > Paul Moortgat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080310/bb2391d4/attachment.html From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Mon Mar 10 09:06:47 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:06:58 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <6C2F9801-D41B-4946-9DCC-9CD59356438F@comcast.net> References: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> <923F74BD-88DB-459C-9F5E-EB58640ED823@comcast.net> <6C2F9801-D41B-4946-9DCC-9CD59356438F@comcast.net> Message-ID: A Mac will read that formatted HD for PC. Paul Moortgat On 10 Mar 2008, at 17:04, faramineux wrote: > I have an external USB hard drive, but I thought they had to be > formatted for one OR the other system. > > On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> Don't you've an (mini or maxi) external HD which you can mount on >> the PC and then on the Mac? Copy it. >> >> Paul Moortgat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080310/7b285ba3/attachment.html From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Mar 10 09:11:30 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:12:59 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/10/08 10:55 AM, faramineux wrote: > She might not know what "finalize" means. I don't. The files are on > the DVD, I can play them on my PC. When you burn with Windows software, you can add data ("sessions") to the CD/DVD until it's "closed out" or "finalized". When you finalize/finish/close it out, what amounts to an "end marker" is written to the disc so that no more data can be written. Without the end marker, the Mac OS cannot read the disc. Windows computers can. I don't know what software was used to burn the disc, but whatever it is, there should be instructions with it -- in the Help if nowhere else -- about "finishing" or "finalizing" or "closing out" the disc. peace, Linda -- PC: Personal Computer. Both Windows and Macintosh computers are PCs. -- My best friend's computer-geek son From faramineux at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 09:12:27 2008 From: faramineux at comcast.net (faramineux) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:13:20 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> <923F74BD-88DB-459C-9F5E-EB58640ED823@comcast.net> <6C2F9801-D41B-4946-9DCC-9CD59356438F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9CCE4D1D-E44E-42EA-B91C-6A81C6834AAC@comcast.net> ALL my hard drives are formatted for Mac and have already a lot of stuff on them. On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > A Mac will read that formatted HD for PC. > > Paul Moortgat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080310/6f0da594/attachment.html From rashton at telus.net Mon Mar 10 09:17:42 2008 From: rashton at telus.net (Robert Ashton) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:18:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] quicktime pro Message-ID: <063917F8-5B07-4F0D-BB5E-260891BF0C3A@telus.net> How do I back track quicktime to an earlier version. Thanks in advance Bob From faramineux at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 09:18:52 2008 From: faramineux at comcast.net (faramineux) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:19:49 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <278D6667-65F7-4B9A-95CB-04D5158DE486@comcast.net> On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Linda wrote: > When you burn with Windows software, you can add data ("sessions") > to the > CD/DVD until it's "closed out" or "finalized". When you > finalize/finish/close it out, what amounts to an "end marker" is > written to > the disc so that no more data can be written. > > Without the end marker, the Mac OS cannot read the disc. Windows > computers > can. > > I don't know what software was used to burn the disc, but whatever > it is, > there should be instructions with it -- in the Help if nowhere else > -- about > "finishing" or "finalizing" or "closing out" the disc. > > peace, > Linda VERY clear Linda, now I know what happened! Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080310/4d0efbe7/attachment-0001.html From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Mon Mar 10 09:25:17 2008 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:25:26 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <9CCE4D1D-E44E-42EA-B91C-6A81C6834AAC@comcast.net> References: <0FB469E4-F125-4C10-B75B-60746FDB33CB@pandora.be> <923F74BD-88DB-459C-9F5E-EB58640ED823@comcast.net> <6C2F9801-D41B-4946-9DCC-9CD59356438F@comcast.net> <9CCE4D1D-E44E-42EA-B91C-6A81C6834AAC@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4AB7B58A-CB7F-4852-8FA8-F089F1FE9003@pandora.be> Then you've to do what Linda wrote. Or buy a pocket drive :). Paul Moortgat On 10 Mar 2008, at 17:12, faramineux wrote: > ALL my hard drives are formatted for Mac and have already a lot of > stuff on them. > > On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: > >> A Mac will read that formatted HD for PC. >> >> Paul Moortgat From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Mar 10 09:26:13 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Mar 10 09:26:38 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <278D6667-65F7-4B9A-95CB-04D5158DE486@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/10/08 11:18 AM, faramineux wrote: > > VERY clear Linda, now I know what happened! Thanks! > You betcha. :?) Good luck! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I only did it once and it was years ago, so I'm not going to be any further help other than saying: yeah, it should work ... give it a try. matt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080310/18621499/attachment.html From XPressoBean at mac.com Mon Mar 10 10:32:25 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Mon Mar 10 10:33:42 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/10/08 12:20 PM, faramineux wrote: > Actually luck ran out, I do not have a dvd burner on my laptop, only ?a dvd > viewer. CD burner only, and the files are too big for the CD. I was hoping I > could also transfer the files from one computer to the other through an > ethernet cable, dreaming? Mail them to yourself using YouSendIt.com? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can try the methods that apple describes here: http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/migrate/ From faramineux at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 11:13:36 2008 From: faramineux at comcast.net (faramineux) Date: Mon Mar 10 11:14:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: <47D576BD.9040403@mikefinn.com> References: <47D576BD.9040403@mikefinn.com> Message-ID: <5E509A1D-0F50-4914-A355-E0E1B8E4A06B@comcast.net> On Mar 10, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Mike Finn wrote: > You can try the methods that apple describes here: http:// > www.apple.com/support/switch101/migrate/ I'll give it a try. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080310/622faf71/attachment.html From douglist at macnauchtan.com Mon Mar 10 11:39:22 2008 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Mon Mar 10 11:40:30 2008 Subject: [X4U] quicktime pro In-Reply-To: <063917F8-5B07-4F0D-BB5E-260891BF0C3A@telus.net> References: <063917F8-5B07-4F0D-BB5E-260891BF0C3A@telus.net> Message-ID: At 09:17 -0700 3/10/08, Robert Ashton wrote: >How do I back track quicktime to an earlier version. Thanks in advance Bob ** Quoted from somewhere. The problem was that version 7.4 no longer handles MPEG4. I donno about the pro feature. I bought that once but never again. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6473618 2. Install Quicktime 7.1.3 in such a way that it overwrites the QT 7.4 files without interfering with your other system settings and third-party add-ons. This can be done using a shareware (you can use it a few times for free, but worth paying for and having) application called Pacifist. This method works perfectly: (Note that there separate QT 7.1.3 installer packages for Leopard, Tiger and Panther, and you can get them here: Panther: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime731forpanther.html Tiger: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime731fortiger.html Leopard: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/quicktime731forleopard.html Open Pacifist, and drag the icon of the QT installer to the Pacifist window. This will have the 'open carton' icon. Click on this, then click Install from the top left-hand corner of the Pacifist menu. You will be asked if you want existing files replaced. Say yes to all. Job done! You will now have Quicktime 7.1.3 (or earlier) installed, which will play mpeg4 files as normal! N.B. Repair permissions and restart both before and after installation. -- Applescript syntax is like English spelling: Roughly, though not thoroughly, thought through. From rgilmor at uwo.ca Mon Mar 10 11:47:22 2008 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Mon Mar 10 11:48:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] From PC to Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My Intel Mac will not read Vista burned data CD/DVDs. I suspect this is the problem. I have to read them on a PC and transfer them over our network to my Mac. But even then the data doesn?t always copy correctly to the Mac. I had a package installer for Mac, burned onto a Vista made CD (by one of our PC-IT guys) which when read to Mac became separated from its resource forks and no longer worked. So you may have to read the disc on a PC then use a flash drive or some such to copy files to your Mac. On 10/3/08 12:06 PM, "Paul Moortgat" wrote: > A Mac will read that formatted HD for PC. > > Paul Moortgat > > On 10 Mar 2008, at 17:04, faramineux wrote: > >> I have an external USB hard drive, but I thought they had to be formatted >> for one OR the other system. >> >> On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Paul Moortgat wrote: >> From netkat at comcast.net Mon Mar 10 11:51:40 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Mon Mar 10 11:52:52 2008 Subject: [X4U] "New" spam technique Message-ID: <39A36802-B5DE-48D0-91B8-C54972817E6E@comcast.net> Maybe just new to me... I just got a piece of spam with the subject line: "RE: You can be 18 again!" OK, nothin' new there..spammers have been using the "RE:" trick for awhile. but the from address? one of MY addresses! Plus, they even used the little pic/icon I've used!! is this just a step in the ever-changing evolution of spam technique, or do I need to be concerned that somebody has basically hi-jacked my email address? n From jonkreisler at gmail.com Mon Mar 10 13:46:25 2008 From: jonkreisler at gmail.com (Jon Kreisler) Date: Mon Mar 10 13:46:36 2008 Subject: [X4U] "New" spam technique In-Reply-To: <39A36802-B5DE-48D0-91B8-C54972817E6E@comcast.net> References: <39A36802-B5DE-48D0-91B8-C54972817E6E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <19edefcb0803101346w1ad641etcf4fd7123334d3ab@mail.gmail.com> This is known as address spoofing.It is nothing new and unfortunately there is not too much you can do about it, especially if the spammer is in a foreign country. If you look at full message headers, you can trace where the message originated, but your email address was probably used in the "from:" header. Best bet is just to ignore it - save yourself a lot of stress. Regards, Jon On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM, nk wrote: > Maybe just new to me... > > I just got a piece of spam with the subject line: "RE: You can be 18 > again!" > > OK, nothin' new there..spammers have been using the "RE:" trick for > awhile. > > but the from address? one of MY addresses! Plus, they even used the > little pic/icon I've used!! > > is this just a step in the ever-changing evolution of spam technique, > or do I need to be concerned that somebody has basically hi-jacked my > email address? > > n > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I work in a mixed Mac/PC environment with people going back and forth between Mac/PC versions of Office and for the most part the Mac/PC versions work just fine with each other except for bullets in the auto bullet feature of Word. Bullets done on a PC don't render as bullets on a Mac they render as boxes or checkmarks and going into the bullets and numbering and selecting bullets doesn't work. I was hoping the 2008 version of Word would correct this but it actually seems to be worse only rendering a box regardless of what option I choose. I've Googled this but have not found and answers and was hoping the collective wisdom of the list might have an answer. Thank you Richard From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Mar 11 07:59:03 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Mar 11 07:59:23 2008 Subject: [X4U] Word 2008/2004 Bullet Issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/11/08 9:43 AM, Richard Gilmore wrote: > except for bullets in the auto bullet feature of Word. Bullets done on > a PC don't render as bullets on a Mac they render as boxes or checkmarks and > going into the bullets and numbering and selecting bullets doesn't work. When I get Windows Word documents (don't forget, Macs are PCs too), the bullets often become sigma signs. I believe its because of keyboard mapping differences between the two platforms. If you use a Windows TrueType font on the Windows doc, and install that Windows TrueType on your Mac, do the bullets show up as you expect? (I don't know, and I don't have a Windows PC to try.) From rgilmor at uwo.ca Tue Mar 11 08:58:56 2008 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Tue Mar 11 08:59:02 2008 Subject: [X4U] Word 2008/2004 Bullet Issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My versions of Word 2008/04 won't show bullets on the Mac at all even though it shows a bullet and says "bullet" it comes up as a square box even if it's made on a Mac to start with and hasn't gone anywhere near a PC. I don't think it's a font issue especially with the people that I deal with on the PC (Win) end of things who have different fonts on their home computers/laptops where their docs originated from yet their bullets on Win/PC never fail to work properly on our machines (which they need to print from). And the Mac bullets don't work at all. You can customize the bullets on Mac Word 2008 with Option-8 but they don't line up directly across from the list they are supposed to be "bulleting" the way "real" bullets do. This has proven to be an unacceptable workaround to our clients who use bullets mainly for resumes and are incredibly fussy and picky on how they want their resumes to look. From a marketing standpoint this makes our Macs look poorly to our clients many of who have little exposure to Apple. On 11/3/08 10:59 AM, "Linda" wrote: > On 3/11/08 9:43 AM, Richard Gilmore wrote: > >> except for bullets in the auto bullet feature of Word. Bullets done on >> a PC don't render as bullets on a Mac they render as boxes or checkmarks and >> going into the bullets and numbering and selecting bullets doesn't work. > > When I get Windows Word documents (don't forget, Macs are PCs too), the > bullets often become sigma signs. I believe its because of keyboard mapping > differences between the two platforms. > > If you use a Windows TrueType font on the Windows doc, and install that > Windows TrueType on your Mac, do the bullets show up as you expect? > > (I don't know, and I don't have a Windows PC to try.) From netkat at comcast.net Tue Mar 11 12:04:44 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Tue Mar 11 12:07:02 2008 Subject: [X4U] Transferred Text Edit files messed up Message-ID: I've already tangled with transferring a load of Text Edit files from one Mac to another, finding I couldn't open them, and learning the solution was to Zip the folder, THEN transfer them. That solution worked. Basically. Now I"m seeing that some of these transferred files are *loaded* with all sorts of wierd code...long strings of it, and peppered throughout with backslashes. I find this to be problematic, because when I transfer a file, my expectation is that the file is, simply, moved to a new computer without being mangled or having whacky code inserted into it. I've never seen this happen with any of my video, photoshop, or 3D files, or really ANY other than Text Edit files. Can someone tell me why Text Edit files sometimes get mangled when transferred (even if zipped first) and how to stop it from happening in the future? thank you! n From nacohen at mac.com Tue Mar 11 12:17:06 2008 From: nacohen at mac.com (=?utf-8?B?Tm9ybWFuIENvaGVu?=) Date: Tue Mar 11 12:16:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] Transferred Text Edit files messed up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <813785408-1205262967-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1225529714-@bxe147.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> It could be that these have text formatting. If you bold face, use italics, color the text, etc textedit saves the file in "rich text format" or rtf for short. Without having seen the file, that's what it sounds like to me. Norm Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: nk Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:04:44 To:"A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." Subject: [X4U] Transferred Text Edit files messed up I've already tangled with transferring a load of Text Edit files from one Mac to another, finding I couldn't open them, and learning the solution was to Zip the folder, THEN transfer them. That solution worked. Basically. Now I"m seeing that some of these transferred files are *loaded* with all sorts of wierd code...long strings of it, and peppered throughout with backslashes. I find this to be problematic, because when I transfer a file, my expectation is that the file is, simply, moved to a new computer without being mangled or having whacky code inserted into it. I've never seen this happen with any of my video, photoshop, or 3D files, or really ANY other than Text Edit files. Can someone tell me why Text Edit files sometimes get mangled when transferred (even if zipped first) and how to stop it from happening in the future? thank you! n _______________________________________________ X4U mailing list X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From netkat at comcast.net Tue Mar 11 12:21:07 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (nk) Date: Tue Mar 11 12:22:46 2008 Subject: [X4U] Transferred Text Edit files messed up In-Reply-To: <813785408-1205262967-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1225529714-@bxe147.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <813785408-1205262967-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1225529714-@bxe147.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <9C3C2B66-D059-47B7-A06E-4E9800E0A844@comcast.net> that could be...in one file in particular, I don't recall using any bolding, but why would bolding, or some other rich text element translate as this: pardtx720tx1440tx2160tx2880tx3600tx4320tx5040tx5760tx6480tx7200tx7920tx8 640qlqnatural cf0 I mean, that is a LOT of characters! maybe "tx" means text, and I see a pattern of doubling of some of the numbers, but what actually is that stuff? n On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Norman Cohen wrote: > It could be that these have text formatting. If you bold face, use > italics, color the text, etc textedit saves the file in "rich text > format" or rtf for short. Without having seen the file, that's what > it sounds like to me. > > Norm > Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. From tabdave at ca.rr.com Tue Mar 11 12:48:22 2008 From: tabdave at ca.rr.com (Crandon David) Date: Tue Mar 11 12:49:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] "Exposure" in iPhoto6 Message-ID: <8199A423-C0CA-43CD-9D23-990D342A06EE@ca.rr.com> Quick question: In iPhoto6, is the editing adjustment, "exposure", the same thing as adjusting "gamma" in other programs? Also, specifically what controls does the "enhance" button change? Thanks, David From edgould1948 at comcast.net Tue Mar 11 13:09:39 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Tue Mar 11 13:12:36 2008 Subject: [X4U] Word 2008/2004 Bullet Issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <836A6C62-4F36-4308-98D6-36AB099BE32F@comcast.net> On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Richard Gilmore wrote: > My versions of Word 2008/04 won't show bullets on the Mac at all > even though > it shows a bullet and says "bullet" it comes up as a square box > even if it's > made on a Mac to start with and hasn't gone anywhere near a PC. I > don't > think it's a font issue especially with the people that I deal with > on the > PC (Win) end of things who have different fonts on their home > computers/laptops where their docs originated from yet their > bullets on > Win/PC never fail to work properly on our machines (which they need > to print > from). And the Mac bullets don't work at all. > > You can customize the bullets on Mac Word 2008 with Option-8 but > they don't > line up directly across from the list they are supposed to be > "bulleting" > the way "real" bullets do. This has proven to be an unacceptable > workaround > to our clients who use bullets mainly for resumes and are > incredibly fussy > and picky on how they want their resumes to look. From a marketing > standpoint this makes our Macs look poorly to our clients many of > who have > little exposure to Apple. > > > SNIP-------------- I have had similar issues with Word Perfect and indeed the bullets that WP supplies (or what WP uses) are really small. In WP I believe you have to create you own bullet in the size you want. I don't know zip about Word. I will have to admit it is *NOT* easy to figure out that it needs to be done. If you find someone that is a wizard in whatever word processing program don't bug them for every problem but keep them for the hard to diagnose problems like this. Buy them a lunch or dinner once or twice a year and only use them 2-3 times a year. Ed From douglist at macnauchtan.com Tue Mar 11 13:14:16 2008 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Tue Mar 11 13:42:51 2008 Subject: [X4U] Transferred Text Edit files messed up In-Reply-To: <9C3C2B66-D059-47B7-A06E-4E9800E0A844@comcast.net> References: <813785408-1205262967-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1225529714-@bxe147.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <9C3C2B66-D059-47B7-A06E-4E9800E0A844@comcast.net> Message-ID: At 12:21 -0700 3/11/08, nk wrote: >that could be...in one file in particular, I don't recall using any bolding, but why would bolding, or some other rich text element translate as this: > >pardtx720tx1440tx2160tx2880tx3600tx4320tx5040tx5760tx6480tx7200tx7920tx8 640qlqnatural >cf0 > >I mean, that is a LOT of characters! maybe "tx" means text, and I see a pattern of doubling of some of the numbers, but what actually is that stuff? That looks a lot like unicode-16 between tx tags. Sigh. TextEdit can be used to handle good old ASCII text even though Apple doesn't seem to want folks to do that. Format menu "Make Plain Text" will probably do what you want. BareBones offers a free version of BBEdit called Text Wrangler. If you do much with ASCII it's worth a look. -- --> From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <-- From lalicata at alum.rpi.edu Tue Mar 11 17:37:14 2008 From: lalicata at alum.rpi.edu (LA Licata) Date: Tue Mar 11 17:37:38 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension Message-ID: Hi! Does anybody know how to open a 200+ MB file that has a ".dat" extension. With Word and Excel, I seem to only get the first page. TextEdit chokes... Clue please? Lee From baltwo at san.rr.com Tue Mar 11 15:53:11 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Tue Mar 11 18:56:09 2008 Subject: [X4U] Word 2008/2004 Bullet Issue In-Reply-To: <20080311191642.EE8D612ED672@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080311191642.EE8D612ED672@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 03/11/08, Richard Gilmore wrote: > > My versions of Word 2008/04 won't show bullets on the Mac at all even though > it shows a bullet and says "bullet" it comes up as a square box even if it's > made on a Mac to start with and hasn't gone anywhere near a PC. I don't > think it's a font issue especially with the people that I deal with on the > PC (Win) end of things who have different fonts on their home > computers/laptops where their docs originated from yet their bullets on > Win/PC never fail to work properly on our machines (which they need to print > from). And the Mac bullets don't work at all. > > You can customize the bullets on Mac Word 2008 with Option-8 but they don't > line up directly across from the list they are supposed to be "bulleting" > the way "real" bullets do. This has proven to be an unacceptable workaround > to our clients who use bullets mainly for resumes and are incredibly fussy > and picky on how they want their resumes to look. From a marketing > standpoint this makes our Macs look poorly to our clients many of who have > little exposure to Apple. Humbug. Sounds more like a microsloth problem. I select Format->Bullets and Numbering->Bullets->2nd item left, top row, and get normal looking bullets in Word 2004. Methinks this is a problem for the Word forums at -maybe a bug report is warranted. BTW, I don't deal with PC Word users, nor have a PC, so I can't check what comes across. Send me one of those and I'll let you know if it displays bullets properly. From jessup at san.rr.com Tue Mar 11 19:03:51 2008 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Tue Mar 11 19:04:23 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Hi! > >Does anybody know how to open a 200+ MB file that has a ".dat" extension. > >With Word and Excel, I seem to only get the first page. > >TextEdit chokes... What's the name of the file? There's a freeway utility that will open winmail.dat files. Is yours one of those? (Yours is definitely huge and would better have been uploaded to a web server or sent by a "large file" utility for emailing large files in chunks). An example on the Mac side is FileChute: Daly ---------------------- From XPressoBean at mac.com Tue Mar 11 21:51:56 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Tue Mar 11 21:52:39 2008 Subject: [X4U] Transferred Text Edit files messed up In-Reply-To: <9C3C2B66-D059-47B7-A06E-4E9800E0A844@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/11/08 2:21 PM, nk wrote: > pardtx720tx1440tx2160tx2880tx3600tx4320tx5040tx5760tx6480tx7200tx7920tx8 > 640qlqnatural > cf0 > > I mean, that is a LOT of characters! maybe "tx" means text, and I see > a pattern of doubling of some of the numbers, but what actually is > that stuff? Are the fonts you used originally available on the other machine? Did you have any pictures in the files? From netkat at comcast.net Wed Mar 12 07:36:46 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (n) Date: Wed Mar 12 07:37:22 2008 Subject: [X4U] Transferred Text Edit files messed up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87367e542114d2d9cdaabe14e77d404c@comcast.net> no pics used, and destination machine has same fonts as source mac does. thanks! n On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Linda wrote: > Are the fonts you used originally available on the other machine? Did > you > have any pictures in the files? From dancurr at frontiernet.net Wed Mar 12 19:36:24 2008 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Wed Mar 12 19:36:37 2008 Subject: [X4U] AppleWorks ?? Message-ID: <47D89328.5010600@frontiernet.net> Hello All, I am driving an MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 320 GB HDs / NETSCAPE 7.2 / OS X.4.11 and after repartitioning and then reloading my AppleWorks 6.2 has developed a minor malfunction. When I attempt to "Check document spelling" the LEARN button is no longer an option. It is there but when I click on it nothing happens. Ideas and suggestions welcome!! Dan Currie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080312/1602f660/attachment.html From jrj1120 at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 06:43:55 2008 From: jrj1120 at gmail.com (Jeff Johnson) Date: Thu Mar 13 06:44:14 2008 Subject: [X4U] AppleWorks ?? In-Reply-To: <47D89328.5010600@frontiernet.net> References: <47D89328.5010600@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <15770d710803130643s5f0210efwf1b99479913a8fca@mail.gmail.com> Dan, Found this, which seems to describe your problem : --- For anyone who still uses AppleWorks (what can I say, it does everything that I need) and has lost the ability to use their custom user spelling library (you know, so it won't flag "TigerKR" as a spelling error every time), fear not (much). I have found the simple solution. And it will reenable the "Learn" button in the "Spelling" dialogue box as well. Here's how. When AppleWorks is the active application, choose Edit -> Writing Tools -> Select Dictionaries from the menu. A Select Dictionaries window will appear. Click on the radio button for User Dictionary. Then below Currently Selected Dictionary, it will probably say something like 'None.' Click on Choose on the right of the window, and navigate to your MIA user dictionary, which is usually located at /Applications: AppleWorks 6: AppleWorks Essentials: Dictionaries: User Dictionary. If you don't have that file, you can create a new user dictionary by clicking ... wait for it ... wait ... yep, click New. If that doesn't fix the problem, you may want to check the permissions of said User Dictionary to make sure that you have read/write access to the file. --- It may also be an AW preferences problem - try moving your com.apple.appleworks.plist file from its current location (Home folder > Library > Preferences) to the trash, then restarting AW. Here's a link that describes the above and more: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=121704 Good luck! Jeff Milwaukee On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Dan A Currie wrote: > > Hello All, > > I am driving an MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 320 GB HDs / NETSCAPE 7.2 / > OS X.4.11 and after repartitioning and then reloading my AppleWorks 6.2 has > developed a minor malfunction. > > When I attempt to "Check document spelling" the LEARN button is no longer > an option. It is there but when I click on it nothing happens. > > Ideas and suggestions welcome!! > > Dan Currie > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > From nanc at spoolman.com Thu Mar 13 06:59:51 2008 From: nanc at spoolman.com (Nancy Spoolman) Date: Thu Mar 13 07:00:07 2008 Subject: [X4U] AppleWorks ?? In-Reply-To: <15770d710803130643s5f0210efwf1b99479913a8fca@mail.gmail.com> References: <47D89328.5010600@frontiernet.net> <15770d710803130643s5f0210efwf1b99479913a8fca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7799A391-515D-46FC-AA5D-0BA55B89BBCA@spoolman.com> > For anyone who still uses AppleWorks (what can I say, it does > everything that I need) Amen to that! I use AW all the time because it just works! Thanks for the tip, though. If I ever lose the Learn portion, I'll know what to do. Nanc From lalicata at alum.rpi.edu Thu Mar 13 07:51:23 2008 From: lalicata at alum.rpi.edu (LA Licata) Date: Thu Mar 13 07:52:09 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension Message-ID: Daly, and all, MSC (big hardware company) sent me their CDROM which is for windows only. They data file is called "addoc.dat" and based on the first page, that is the file I want. When I open it with Word, and save it as a "doc" file, the doc file is huge, but still cannot scroll past page 1. Daly, the freeware utility you mentioned did not work. Any other suggestions (except to buy a windows machine)? Lee Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:03:51 -0700 From: Daly Jessup Subject: Re: [X4U] Dat file extension > ...Does anybody know how to open a 200+ MB file that has a ".dat" > extension. With Word and Excel, I seem to only get the first page. > TextEdit chokes... What's the name of the file? There's a freeware utility that will open winmail.dat files. Is yours one of those? From XPressoBean at mac.com Thu Mar 13 10:30:13 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Thu Mar 13 10:31:19 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/13/08 9:51 AM, LA Licata wrote: > Any other suggestions (except to buy a windows machine)? Do you have any text programs, like BBEdit or TextWrangler? They might be able to get at the text, if not the pictures. After using Google to search for "how to open .dat file Mac", I started reading some sites. Apparently there's no single program that creates them. One of the threads said that even VCD (video CD) comes in a .dat file, so my suggestion is that you start dropping the file on every app you have -- Word, Excel, Keynote, VLC, QuickTime, Flip4Mac, Maclink Plus, etc. One app mentioned by name was "VCDGear" for Mac OS and Linux. Maybe you'll find something that will open it. Have you dropped it into your home DVD player yet to see if it will play there? From tcozad at covad.net Thu Mar 13 10:56:24 2008 From: tcozad at covad.net (Terence Cozad) Date: Thu Mar 13 10:57:04 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension References: Message-ID: <005001c88533$8e62e010$6a01a8c0@cozad> If I can jump in. I frequently get these from people who save from Outlook for Windows. When they have the standard encoding on it cannot be read except by someone else with Outlook (not Outlook Express). My solution is to use MacLink Plus and it has opened the files every time. It has to convert them to their native docs. The other solution is to have the Outlook person (if that is the source) turn off encoding and send the file unencoded. But, MacLink Plus has never let me down. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [X4U] Dat file extension > On 3/13/08 9:51 AM, LA Licata wrote: > >> Any other suggestions (except to buy a windows machine)? > > Do you have any text programs, like BBEdit or TextWrangler? They might be > able to get at the text, if not the pictures. > > After using Google to search for "how to open .dat file Mac", I started > reading some sites. Apparently there's no single program that creates > them. > One of the threads said that even VCD (video CD) comes in a .dat file, so > my > suggestion is that you start dropping the file on every app you have -- > Word, Excel, Keynote, VLC, QuickTime, Flip4Mac, Maclink Plus, etc. One app > mentioned by name was "VCDGear" for Mac OS and Linux. Maybe you'll find > something that will open it. > > Have you dropped it into your home DVD player yet to see if it will play > there? > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > > From XPressoBean at mac.com Thu Mar 13 11:27:23 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Thu Mar 13 11:27:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension In-Reply-To: <005001c88533$8e62e010$6a01a8c0@cozad> Message-ID: On 3/13/08 12:56 PM, Terence Cozad wrote: > I frequently get these from people who save from Outlook > for Windows. Certainly, the winmail.dat file is the most common .dat I've ever seen, but Lee said this one is a couple humdred megabytes and was sent to him *on CD* from a hardware store, so I assume it's not a winmail.dat file... From rashton at telus.net Thu Mar 13 11:27:57 2008 From: rashton at telus.net (Robert) Date: Thu Mar 13 11:28:10 2008 Subject: [X4U] Airport Message-ID: Have a Mac pro with an airport card. Just after I bought it the Airport Extreme 802.11n came out. Apple had a software update to bring my card up to 802.11n. It was only a couple of dollars but I didn't need it so I didn't do it at the time. I have now purchased an Airport extreme 802.11n and I thought that the software for the upgrade was on the CD that came with the airport. How do I know if my airport card is 802.11n and if it isn't where do I find the update to bring my card up to 802.11n. Thanks Bob From netkat at comcast.net Thu Mar 13 11:51:12 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (n) Date: Thu Mar 13 11:52:28 2008 Subject: [X4U] Proper formatting for Cruzer Message-ID: I have a couple of Sandisk Cruzers..the 1 gig size and lately I've been getting some idiotic warnings and reasons as to why I can not copy items TO it. such as... when I tried to copy a folder named "icons" to it, I was told that the name was either too long, or contained characters which are not allowed! makes me wonder whether I need to re-format the cruzer so that these little warnings go away..can be a PITN to have to do workarounds when they crop up. We bought them at Costco, and I assume, as with HDs, cruzers come formatted to work with Windows...often then contain goodies and extras with the .exe suffix, so that's why I theorize that reformatting might be in order...along with the silly warnings I"m getting. any ideas? thanks From tcozad at covad.net Thu Mar 13 11:57:56 2008 From: tcozad at covad.net (Terence Cozad) Date: Thu Mar 13 11:58:07 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension References: Message-ID: <006801c8853c$275a4b20$6a01a8c0@cozad> You could be correct. I have also seen though an email with a large attachment that my mac translated to a pict file??? If I remember it was something like pict.dat? Cant remember exactly. Preview opened it partly. When i ran it through MacLink Plus it turns out it was an Excel spreadsheet-go figure- and it opened perfectly. I agree it seems like it might be something else but I would still try MacLink Plus because even if you drag and drop onto different apps like someone suggested it might partly open it but not completely. Of course, the person could always call the store and ask what kind of file it might be, if that is practical. It would be interesting to know exactly what it is, i am intrigued :) Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" To: "A place to discuss Mac OS X for the casual user." Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [X4U] Dat file extension > On 3/13/08 12:56 PM, Terence Cozad wrote: > >> I frequently get these from people who save from Outlook >> for Windows. > > Certainly, the winmail.dat file is the most common .dat I've ever seen, > but > Lee said this one is a couple humdred megabytes and was sent to him *on > CD* > from a hardware store, so I assume it's not a winmail.dat file... > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price > http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > > From XPressoBean at mac.com Thu Mar 13 12:03:47 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Thu Mar 13 12:04:19 2008 Subject: [X4U] Dat file extension In-Reply-To: <006801c8853c$275a4b20$6a01a8c0@cozad> Message-ID: On 3/13/08 1:57 PM, Terence Cozad wrote: > I agree it seems like it might be something else but I would still try > MacLink Plus Yep, MacLink Plus was one of the apps I suggested he try. :-) From macsys at mac.com Thu Mar 13 13:23:37 2008 From: macsys at mac.com (wilkinw) Date: Thu Mar 13 13:23:59 2008 Subject: [X4U] Proper formatting for Cruzer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F22151B-DE1A-4C41-BCF9-78E6495153D6@mac.com> Most flash drives are formatted FAT32. You should use disk util and reformat it as Mac OS Extended On Mar 13, 2008, at 2:51 PM, n wrote: > I have a couple of Sandisk Cruzers..the 1 gig size and lately I've > been getting some idiotic warnings and reasons as to why I can not > copy items TO it. > > such as... > > when I tried to copy a folder named "icons" to it, I was told that > the name was either too long, or contained characters which are not > allowed! > > makes me wonder whether I need to re-format the cruzer so that these > little warnings go away..can be a PITN to have to do workarounds > when they crop up. > We bought them at Costco, and I assume, as with HDs, cruzers come > formatted to work with Windows...often then contain goodies and > extras with the .exe suffix, so that's why I theorize that > reformatting might be in order...along with the silly warnings I"m > getting. > > any ideas? > > thanks > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From edgould1948 at comcast.net Fri Mar 14 10:02:16 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Fri Mar 14 10:03:59 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... Message-ID: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> Group: I am going over my backup plan and have basically decided that my current backup system is no longer adequate and need some insight for a new backup system. Currently I have a G5 with 4GB of RAM and 300GB of HD (internal) space (10.4 with no plans to go to 10.5 ever) and an external HD with about 400 GB (370 used) of two external drives. I use one of the external drives to back up my system to and have 3 copies of backup for my system. When I back up I copy *ALL* of my data Internal to my external and as I create the new copy I delete the 3rd copy. Essentially every saturday morning I delete the 3rd copy (takes about 2 hours) and then shut my 7X24 connection down and stop all applications like email and web and my usenet reader. I then use "personal backup" to backup the HD of my G5. This takes approximately 4-5 hours. To summarize: I need a way in case of disaster to recover my system in a reasonably timely fashion (hopefully in less than 24 hours). My plan to hand carry my backup drive as I leave my place is a big hole in my system. I have severe memory issues due to a stroke and I am afraid I will forget to unhook my drive and carry it out with me in an emergency. I really don't have any good way to send to an offsite place my backup drive. I need a reasonably inexpensive solution. I thought about asking a neighbor to "care" for my drive but this is not doable (I won't go into reasons), I have friends but don't necessarily see them once a week. I have thought about buying remote site backup space but my friend says that COMCAST throttles upload speed to approx 100Mb sec making backup time extremely poor. Does anyone have some ideas for any options I might have? Ed ps: I have a friend in need of something similar and he is thinking of getting a terabyte drive or blue-ray. I sort of like the idea of blue-ray but I understand the cost of DVD's are still too high for my taste and won't consider it until at least they come down in price to $4-$5 (US) a piece. I understand they are in the (US) $20 range now. Plus I have experiences with DVD's in the past that it took about 20 hours to back up my system to and I had to sit there and flip over the DVDs as they became full. From stan.gould at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 10:38:34 2008 From: stan.gould at gmail.com (Stan Gould) Date: Fri Mar 14 10:38:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: <6024418.1205514284846.JavaMail.root@m08> References: <6024418.1205514284846.JavaMail.root@m08> Message-ID: On Mar 14, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Ed Gould wrote: > Group: > > I am going over my backup plan and have basically decided that my > current backup system is no longer adequate and need some insight > for a new backup system. > Something to consider in a backup plan: I have reduced the frequency of backing up the entire hard drive (-- all--), as much of what is backed up are the applications and other files that come with install disks; or are applications that can be downloaded and reinstalled if necessary. I backup --all-- only occasionally. In between the full backups, I backup my user files. This backs up my documents, settings, history and so forth. I also keep an 8 Gb flash drive mounted that contains a copy of my documents folder. Any work that I complete, update or save is immediately copied to the flash drive. Periodically, I update (synchronize) the documents on my hard drive to the documents folder of the flash drive. All of my work, other than that which is in databases that are part of an application, are kept in the documents folder. Hope this helps. Stan Gould (no relation to Ed Gould) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080314/40802e8c/attachment.html From rgilmor at uwo.ca Fri Mar 14 12:44:58 2008 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Fri Mar 14 12:45:37 2008 Subject: [X4U] Entourage 2008 not Displaying Pictures Message-ID: Hi Everyone, In our office we just upgraded to Mac Office 2008. I've been happy with Entourage 2004 but am now on an Intel Mac 10.4.11. I noticed that jpg pictures sent to me do not display in Entourage 2008 even though I've checked "show attached pictures and movies in messages" in the preferences. This is very annoying. Currently I have to click the attachment and look at it with Preview. Interestingly HTML email sent to me displays pictures just fine. Any clues? Thank you Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080314/759669d2/attachment.html From lstnmt at bresnan.net Fri Mar 14 13:53:10 2008 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Fri Mar 14 13:53:19 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> References: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <974475C9-9717-42D5-B2EA-DB1289CFBFBD@bresnan.net> Apple's time machine is excellent for your purposes. You still need some sort of archival backup of completed projects/files though. The very nicest thing about Time Machine is that it pretty much just works automatically. You might think about a program like Retrospect and back up to DVDs. The first time through would be painful but after that you will only be doing incrementally changed files which means the backup will go much more quickly. I'd still do a full back up once in a while maybe monthly or quarterly. As Stan Gould said you probably don't have much real need to backup your applications and System files all that often. Once you elimanate those files backing up to remote storage, such as Apple's .Mac is also workable. I use my .Mac storage for offsite backups and it works very well for me. Jens On Mar 14, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Ed Gould wrote: > I am going over my backup plan and have basically decided that my > current backup system is no longer adequate and need some insight > for a new backup system. Jens Selvig ...Lost in Montana... From lstnmt at bresnan.net Fri Mar 14 14:01:56 2008 From: lstnmt at bresnan.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Fri Mar 14 14:02:08 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back to My Mac Message-ID: <1B37957B-E727-47CE-9960-0F26FB345E45@bresnan.net> I was out of my office this morning and decided to check out how well Back To My Mac actually works. My observations are pretty positive. I was able to mount my office computers drives and when I clicked on Screen sharing I was able to control either of my office systems. I have done this at the office both wirelessly and via cable with good results. The remote location was way slower, of course. Probably slow enough that it would not be feasible to do productive work via the connection. The one problem was I could not find anyway to access my office printers from my laptop. I am not sure if it is possible to remotely print or if I need to do something extra to make the printers available. Any ideas? Jens Jens Selvig ...Lost in Montana... From netkat at comcast.net Fri Mar 14 15:41:43 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (n) Date: Fri Mar 14 15:42:13 2008 Subject: [X4U] Proper formatting for Cruzer In-Reply-To: <3F22151B-DE1A-4C41-BCF9-78E6495153D6@mac.com> References: <3F22151B-DE1A-4C41-BCF9-78E6495153D6@mac.com> Message-ID: <243c5f1c5ce00a51190a6adb5706e157@comcast.net> OK..thank you..backed up the Cruzer, reformatted per your email and loaded the stuff back on. Thanks! n On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:23 PM, wilkinw wrote: > Most flash drives are formatted FAT32. You should use disk util and > reformat it as Mac OS Extended From jessup at san.rr.com Fri Mar 14 15:43:06 2008 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Fri Mar 14 15:49:06 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> References: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ed, >Currently I have a G5 with 4GB of RAM and 300GB of HD (internal) >space(10.4 with no plans to go to 10.5 ever) and an external HD with >about 400 GB (370 used) of two external drives. I don't understand this description. Are you saying you have two external enclosures, each with a 400 GB dive in it? Or are you saying you have two drives in one external enclosure? Or that you have two 200-GB drives in two enclosures, totalling 400 GB? >I use one of the external drives to back up my system to and have 3 >copies of backup for my system. Where does the third copy come in. You described two external drives. Do you have a third? >Essentially every saturday morning I delete the 3rd copy (takes >about 2 hours) Why don't you just reformat the external? Takes a few seconds. >and then shut my 7X24 connection down and stop all applications like >email and web and my usenet reader. I then use "personal backup" to >backup the HD of my G5. This takes approximately 4-5 hours. I would suggest SuperDuper, which will make a complete bootable clone in about 1.5 hours. >To summarize: I need a way in case of disaster to recover my system >in a reasonably timely fashion (hopefully in less than 24 hours). My >plan to hand carry my backup drive as I leave my place is a big hole >in my system. I have severe memory issues due to a stroke and I am >afraid I will forget to unhook my drive and carry it out with me in >an emergency. I leave it to someone else on this one. I do not know of any fast or even reasonably fast way to back up remotely. Maybe set a reminder to flash at you every day or two from iCal, to remove your hard drive in case of emergency? Daly ---------------------- From macmonster at myrealbox.com Fri Mar 14 19:37:51 2008 From: macmonster at myrealbox.com (Stroller) Date: Fri Mar 14 19:38:11 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> References: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <70338847-C785-4204-A933-4624337BD728@myrealbox.com> On 14 Mar 2008, at 17:02, Ed Gould wrote: > ... > My plan to hand carry my backup drive as I leave my place is a big > hole in my system. I have severe memory issues due to a stroke and > I am afraid I will forget to unhook my drive and carry it out with > me in an emergency. This is the most significant item of information in your post, IMO. Because humans are where most computer bugs occur. I was kinda surprised at how long your backups are taking - how does it take 3 hours to delete a bunch of files? I'm dealing with full backups of Windows PCs this week, copying them to a folder on my Mac's desktop before zipping them up & burning them to DVD. I'm fairly confident that I'm getting 8gig - 16gig - typically including tens of thousands of small files - deleted in a few minutes (I don't watch it) using `rm -rf`. But with your medical difficulty, I can't help wondering if a backup regime that takes 8 hours to process is beneficial because it's difficult to overlook!! Finally, in terms of general points about your situation, you haven't told us what you feel is wrong with your current backup plan. It's really easy to do this when making a post - I'm a really verbose bastard myself, and so I spend ages explaining all the little details of my situation and vacillating over the pros and cons. Perhaps I don't have sufficient attention as a reader, but I don't see what your problem is - can you summarise again in less than 5 bullet points, please? By this I mean "sentences of less than 10 words" not "paragraphs". You can always ramble on afterwards, but I think I'll now make it a rule to make bullet points at the start of the message when posting a technical issue of my own. > I really don't have any good way to send to an offsite place my > backup drive. I need a reasonably inexpensive solution. I thought > about asking a neighbor to "care" for my drive but this is not > doable (I won't go into reasons), I have friends but don't > necessarily see them once a week. > > I have thought about buying remote site backup space but my friend > says that COMCAST throttles upload speed to approx 100Mb sec making > backup time extremely poor. I always have problems converting between pounds, ounces and data-per- time, myself, but 100Mb sec seems a lot, to me. Maybe you mean 100k. Anyway, whatever, I would look at http://rsync.net myself. If your requirements are automated, off-site and cheap then they may well be the way to go. As you have ascertained, the best backup plans in the world fail if the secretary forgets to put the tape in her handbag when she leaves the office (or worst, still, she forgets to push the tape back in the machine (because they never rotate or change the tapes!)). Rsync only uploads the differences & is a fairly bandwidth- efficient protocol; there's no reason why you shouldn't run it every night. Stroller. From edgould1948 at comcast.net Fri Mar 14 21:53:29 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Fri Mar 14 21:54:57 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: References: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mar 14, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Daly Jessup wrote: > Ed, > >> Currently I have a G5 with 4GB of RAM and 300GB of HD (internal) >> space(10.4 with no plans to go to 10.5 ever) and an external HD >> with about 400 GB (370 used) of two external drives. > > I don't understand this description. Are you saying you have two > external enclosures, each with a 400 GB dive in it? Or are you > saying you have two drives in one external enclosure? Or that you > have two 200-GB drives in two enclosures, totalling 400 GB? Daly: I have a TOTAL of 400 GIG (200G internal and 200G external) > >> I use one of the external drives to back up my system to and have >> 3 copies of backup for my system. > > Where does the third copy come in. You described two external > drives. Do you have a third? > > > >> Essentially every saturday morning I delete the 3rd copy (takes >> about 2 hours) > > Why don't you just reformat the external? Takes a few seconds. If I did that I would loose all my backs. each drive (backup) is a folder. I did it this way to keep it simple and although 10 minutes of my time to move my backup files around between folders it is simple and straight forward. and only a small margin of error. > >> and then shut my 7X24 connection down and stop all applications >> like email and web and my usenet reader. I then use "personal >> backup" to backup the HD of my G5. This takes approximately 4-5 >> hours. > > I would suggest SuperDuper, which will make a complete bootable > clone in about 1.5 hours. I had thought about that but IIRC superdupper is essential shareware and semi supported. > >> To summarize: I need a way in case of disaster to recover my >> system in a reasonably timely fashion (hopefully in less than 24 >> hours). My plan to hand carry my backup drive as I leave my place >> is a big hole in my system. I have severe memory issues due to a >> stroke and I am afraid I will forget to unhook my drive and carry >> it out with me in an emergency. > > I leave it to someone else on this one. I do not know of any fast > or even reasonably fast way to back up remotely. Maybe set a > reminder to flash at you every day or two from iCal, to remove your > hard drive in case of emergency? SIGH I wish it were that simple. I have my medication schedule on ICAL and I frequently forget to take my medications. A friend has found a possible way around it and we are trying it with mixed success. Not to go into any detail but I am on 20+ meds a day and I do forget at times to take them. I need an extra alarm for meds since ICAL doesn't have one of these alarms that keep ringing until you dismiss it a feature I would truely love to have. > > Daly > ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price http:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From edgould1948 at comcast.net Fri Mar 14 21:56:35 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Fri Mar 14 21:58:00 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: <974475C9-9717-42D5-B2EA-DB1289CFBFBD@bresnan.net> References: <5C9AB153-B3F0-4231-95BE-932E668A6408@comcast.net> <974475C9-9717-42D5-B2EA-DB1289CFBFBD@bresnan.net> Message-ID: On Mar 14, 2008, at 3:53 PM, Jens Selvig wrote: > Apple's time machine is excellent for your purposes. You still need > some sort of archival backup of completed projects/files though. > The very nicest thing about Time Machine is that it pretty much > just works automatically. > > You might think about a program like Retrospect and back up to > DVDs. The first time through would be painful but after that you > will only be doing incrementally changed files which means the > backup will go much more quickly. I'd still do a full back up once > in a while maybe monthly or quarterly. > > As Stan Gould said you probably don't have much real need to backup > your applications and System files all that often. Once you > elimanate those files backing up to remote storage, such as > Apple's .Mac is also workable. I use my .Mac storage for offsite > backups and it works very well for me. > > Jens > > -------------JEns. I can't use it as I thought I said I was stuck at 10.4 for forever and as far as I know as I need classic for word processing. DON't Even get me started on Sheepshaver I won't put it on my machine. So drop that idea. I thought I said that in my post about being stuck on 10.4) Ed From robertmacleay at mac.com Fri Mar 14 21:58:26 2008 From: robertmacleay at mac.com (Robert MacLeay) Date: Fri Mar 14 21:58:55 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: <20080315023807.3DCD113FF76D@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:02:16 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: > I am going over my backup plan and have basically decided that my > current backup system is no longer adequate and need some insight for > a new backup system. This is what I do to back up my Macs: I have two external drives devoted to each machine. Each has the same or larger size as the Mac?s internal HD. Each has been cloned from the internal HD using either SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner. The Mac can boot off of either. I know, I?ve tested them. Once a week, in rotation, I do an incremental backup to one of the external HDs. This is a painless and quick process which usually takes less than a half hour, because the software copies only the files that have changed. I do this for each Mac. The drives live in an insulated picnic cooler in the trunk of my car. I don?t have to remember to take them with me (assuming that I?ll be home during the fire/flood/burglary/visiting grandkid). On top of this, I maintain DVDs of files I feel worthy of archiving in storage at an undisclosed location. And finally, I use Leopard?s Time Machine to maintain a constant backup, updated hourly, to yet another external HD which lives on my desk. I highly recommend this; it is the killer application which justifies upgrading to Leopard. This belt-and-suspenders approach gives me one backup on my desk plus two more offsite, with an investment of less than an hour a week total for the two Macs I use regularly. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080314/2f0171f4/attachment.html From dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk Sat Mar 15 00:40:28 2008 From: dledger at ivdcs.demon.co.uk (David Ledger) Date: Sat Mar 15 04:07:35 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: X4U Digest, Vol 43, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <20080315023810.2DD1213FF780@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080315023810.2DD1213FF780@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: At 19:38 -0700 14/3/08, x4u-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: >From: Ed Gould >Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... >I really don't have any good way to send to an offsite place my >backup drive. I need a reasonably inexpensive solution. I thought >about asking a neighbor to "care" for my drive but this is not doable >(I won't go into reasons), I have friends but don't necessarily see >them once a week. > >I have thought about buying remote site backup space but my friend >says that COMCAST throttles upload speed to approx 100Mb sec making >backup time extremely poor. > >Does anyone have some ideas for any options I might have? Maybe your 'offsite' backup doesn't need to be quite so off-site. You can get fireproof document safes that will hold a hard drive for less than ?30 ~ $60. They are "document" safes rather than "data" safes, so they will not keep a drive safe if it's in the middle of a house fire. But, depending on your local conditions and circumstances, you may be able to keep one in an outhouse or even bolted to a large paving slab in the garden. (If flood or insect infestation is possible, the latter is not a good idea). There are many situations where this would not do, but also many where it would. I have thought of buying an old big commercial 'beyond its sell-by date' second hand data safe, putting it in my garden, and making it look like a shed. I could then hold backups for people in the local area. The main problem here in the UK would be preventing condensation in winter. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. HP-UX specialist of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger@ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk From rahall at ptd.net Sat Mar 15 08:57:08 2008 From: rahall at ptd.net (Robert A. (Bob) Hall) Date: Sat Mar 15 09:11:21 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. Message-ID: I can't Verify my boot Volume using Disk Utility while on the boot volume. The Verify button remains grayed out. This remains even after I have repaired the boot Volume with both Disk Warrior and Disk Utility on my external FireWire and the appear ok after the repair. My OS is version 10.4.11. Can anyone tell me what the problem might be. Thanks, Bob From XPressoBean at mac.com Sat Mar 15 11:00:19 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sat Mar 15 11:00:39 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/15/08 10:57 AM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > I can't Verify my boot Volume using Disk Utility while on the boot > volume. The Verify button remains grayed out. This remains even after > I have repaired the boot Volume with both Disk Warrior and Disk > Utility on my external FireWire and the appear ok after the repair. > My OS is version 10.4.11. > > Can anyone tell me what the problem might be. That's how it is supposed to work. You can't Repair or Verify the disk from which you are booted. To Repair or Verify the normal boot disk, you have to boot from a different disk -- an external hard disk, or a disc such as your Mac OS install disc. ~Linda -- Recently released: _This Water Goes North_ by Dennis Weidemann. Hardcover, nonfiction. 240 pages + 16-page color photo insert. Order from the author at . Thank you for supporting small/independent publishers! From rahall at ptd.net Sat Mar 15 12:42:43 2008 From: rahall at ptd.net (Robert A. (Bob) Hall) Date: Sat Mar 15 12:43:02 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Linda, thanks for your response. I have always been able to verify,and not repair, the boot volume, from the booted volume. In fact when I just now booted on my external FireWire disk I could verify from the booted (FireWire) disk--and I am not able to repair that disk (the Verify Disk button is not grayed and the Repair Disk button is grayed out). Bob >On 3/15/08 10:57 AM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > >> I can't Verify my boot Volume using Disk Utility while on the boot >> volume. The Verify button remains grayed out. This remains even after >> I have repaired the boot Volume with both Disk Warrior and Disk >> Utility on my external FireWire and the appear ok after the repair. >> My OS is version 10.4.11. >> >> Can anyone tell me what the problem might be. > >That's how it is supposed to work. You can't Repair or Verify the disk from >which you are booted. To Repair or Verify the normal boot disk, you have to >boot from a different disk -- an external hard disk, or a disc such as your >Mac OS install disc. > >~Linda >-- >Recently released: _This Water Goes North_ by Dennis Weidemann. >Hardcover, nonfiction. 240 pages + 16-page color photo insert. >Order from the author at . >Thank you for supporting small/independent publishers! > > >_______________________________________________ >X4U mailing list >X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > >Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price >http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From XPressoBean at mac.com Sat Mar 15 13:22:35 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sat Mar 15 13:23:04 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/15/08 2:42 PM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > Linda, thanks for your response. I have always been able to > verify,and not repair, the boot volume, from the booted volume. In > fact when I just now booted on my external FireWire disk I could > verify from the booted (FireWire) disk--and I am not able to repair > that disk (the Verify Disk button is not grayed and the Repair Disk > button is grayed out). My Verify button is greyed out; I don't recall ever being able to Verify a disk I couldn't also Repair, but typically I repair my disks via Safe Boot and DiskWarrior, so I don't visit Disk Utility that often for those chores. What OS are you using? From mac at kapellos.com Sat Mar 15 13:40:47 2008 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Sat Mar 15 13:40:58 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C965671-4286-4F84-A35C-54469E622FC7@kapellos.com> hi, just checked: i can also verify my start up disk but not repair it? On 15 mars 08, at 21:22, Linda wrote: > On 3/15/08 2:42 PM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > >> Linda, thanks for your response. I have always been able to >> verify,and not repair, the boot volume, from the booted volume. In >> fact when I just now booted on my external FireWire disk I could >> verify from the booted (FireWire) disk--and I am not able to repair >> that disk (the Verify Disk button is not grayed and the Repair Disk >> button is grayed out). > > My Verify button is greyed out; I don't recall ever being able to > Verify a > disk I couldn't also Repair, but typically I repair my disks via > Safe Boot > and DiskWarrior, so I don't visit Disk Utility that often for those > chores. > > What OS are you using? > alexandre 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.11 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <530A6C21-0FEC-4BFD-A153-AE53BFE9E5D1@cox.net> On Mar 15, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Linda wrote: > On 3/15/08 3:40 PM, alexandre wrote: > >> just checked: i can also verify my start up disk but not repair it? > > I've got a G5 and a PowerBook G4, both on Mac OS X 10.4.11. Whatcha > got? I wonder if this is a PPC vs Intel chip thing? An OS thing? I have a DualG5 2.0 with 10.5.2 and I have always (even with 10.4/10.3) been able to Verify (but not Repair) boot volumes. -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080315/71e035f0/attachment.html From rahall at ptd.net Sat Mar 15 14:13:02 2008 From: rahall at ptd.net (Robert A. (Bob) Hall) Date: Sat Mar 15 14:13:44 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >On 3/15/08 2:42 PM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > >> Linda, thanks for your response. I have always been able to >> verify,and not repair, the boot volume, from the booted volume. In >> fact when I just now booted on my external FireWire disk I could >> verify from the booted (FireWire) disk--and I am not able to repair >> that disk (the Verify Disk button is not grayed and the Repair Disk >> button is grayed out). > >My Verify button is greyed out; I don't recall ever being able to Verify a >disk I couldn't also Repair, but typically I repair my disks via Safe Boot >and DiskWarrior, so I don't visit Disk Utility that often for those chores. > >What OS are you using? 10.4.11 > > > >_______________________________________________ >X4U mailing list >X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > >Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price >http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal From XPressoBean at mac.com Sat Mar 15 14:19:00 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sat Mar 15 14:19:16 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/15/08 4:13 PM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > 10.4.11 PPC or Intel? From mac at kapellos.com Sat Mar 15 14:27:31 2008 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Sat Mar 15 14:28:37 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D597D95-2AD3-4605-9D85-9C2B7599AB14@kapellos.com> On 15 mars 08, at 21:49, Linda wrote: > On 3/15/08 3:40 PM, alexandre wrote: > >> just checked: i can also verify my start up disk but not repair it? > > > > I've got a G5 and a PowerBook G4, both on Mac OS X 10.4.11. Whatcha > got? I wonder if this is a PPC vs Intel chip thing? An OS thing? > it's in my sig? alexandre 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.4.11 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.11 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20080315/5fb1fcb0/attachment.html From baltwo at san.rr.com Sat Mar 15 14:30:20 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Sat Mar 15 14:31:09 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: <20080315202258.75749142C1AC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080315202258.75749142C1AC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 03/15/08, "Robert A. (Bob) Hall" wrote: > > I can't Verify my boot Volume using Disk Utility while on the boot > volume. The Verify button remains grayed out. This remains even after > I have repaired the boot Volume with both Disk Warrior and Disk > Utility on my external FireWire and the appear ok after the repair. > My OS is version 10.4.11. > > Can anyone tell me what the problem might be. You can only verify, not repair, a boot volume from the boot volume, only if journaling is enabled. IIRC, that feature started with Tiger. From baltwo at san.rr.com Sat Mar 15 14:31:40 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Sat Mar 15 14:31:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: <20080315202258.75749142C1AC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080315202258.75749142C1AC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 03/15/08, Linda wrote: > On 3/15/08 10:57 AM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > >> I can't Verify my boot Volume using Disk Utility while on the boot >> volume. The Verify button remains grayed out. This remains even after >> I have repaired the boot Volume with both Disk Warrior and Disk >> Utility on my external FireWire and the appear ok after the repair. >> My OS is version 10.4.11. >> >> Can anyone tell me what the problem might be. > > That's how it is supposed to work. You can't Repair or Verify the disk from > which you are booted. To Repair or Verify the normal boot disk, you have to > boot from a different disk -- an external hard disk, or a disc such as your > Mac OS install disc. Wrong. See my previous. From XPressoBean at mac.com Sat Mar 15 14:38:29 2008 From: XPressoBean at mac.com (Linda) Date: Sat Mar 15 14:39:16 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 3/15/08 4:30 PM, John Baltutis wrote: > You can only verify, not repair, a boot volume from the boot volume, only if > journaling is enabled. IIRC, that feature started with Tiger. I know I do not have journaling enabled. So, this is why it works the way it works for me -- cannot Verify the disk when booted from that disk. And that is indeed how it's supposed to work for people who do not have journaling enabled -- no? From baltwo at san.rr.com Sat Mar 15 14:53:15 2008 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Sat Mar 15 14:53:38 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: <20080315213930.BD5DD1431998@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080315213930.BD5DD1431998@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 03/15/08, Linda wrote: > On 3/15/08 4:30 PM, John Baltutis wrote: > >> You can only verify, not repair, a boot volume from the boot volume, only if >> journaling is enabled. IIRC, that feature started with Tiger. > > I know I do not have journaling enabled. So, this is why it works the way it > works for me -- cannot Verify the disk when booted from that disk. > > And that is indeed how it's supposed to work for people who do not have > journaling enabled -- no? Correct. It won't work if journaling isn't enabled. However, I took your previous response as meaning it would never work and, since the OP stated it worked previously, I was just clarifying how to make it operable again. From jessup at san.rr.com Sat Mar 15 16:17:53 2008 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Sat Mar 15 16:24:53 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: <6C965671-4286-4F84-A35C-54469E622FC7@kapellos.com> References: <6C965671-4286-4F84-A35C-54469E622FC7@kapellos.com> Message-ID: >hi, > >just checked: i can also verify my start up disk but not repair it? Me, too. Daly ---------------------- _________________________________________________________ 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 3 GB RAM, 24" screen, OS X 10.4.11, NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT video, wired Apple mouse and keyboard. From jessup at san.rr.com Sat Mar 15 16:23:47 2008 From: jessup at san.rr.com (Daly Jessup) Date: Sat Mar 15 16:25:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: <6C965671-4286-4F84-A35C-54469E622FC7@kapellos.com> References: <6C965671-4286-4F84-A35C-54469E622FC7@kapellos.com> Message-ID: Alexandre wrote: >just checked: i can also verify my start up disk but not repair it? Me, too. Daly ---------------------- _________________________________________________________ 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 3 GB RAM, 24" screen, OS X 10.4.11, NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT video, wired Apple mouse and keyboard. Partition: Mac OS Extend (Journaled) From jleo at projectsupport.com Sat Mar 15 17:55:43 2008 From: jleo at projectsupport.com (Jesse Leo) Date: Sat Mar 15 17:56:02 2008 Subject: [X4U] Since we're on the subject of backups... In-Reply-To: <20080315202258.75749142C1AC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Anyone have any suggestions for a small business backup plan? Our current system basically boils down to this: - about 14 Macs and 2 Windoze PCs. - A really old version of Retrospect (which is now owned by some other company and is no longer supported). - Retrospect grabs the Entourage database (I know, I know...), iCal files and desktop of each node every night (incrementals nightly, full on weekends). It also backs up the file server (itself). - Backups done to 3 FW external drives in a rotation. One is always offsite in a safe at the boss' house. So far, so good. The system works reasonably well. But here are the problems: 1) We're probably going to be getting a brand new file server soon running Leopard Server. I doubt that old-school version of Retrospect will work. 2) Disaster recovery - Retrospect doesn't do a file-to-file backup. It makes catalog files. So I think this means that in a file server disaster we would have to first install Retrospect on another computer and then attempt a restore. This kind of sucks. So anyway, I would love to hear if anyone has any thoughts/suggestions on this. Understandably this may be fodder for a different mail list, but I thought I'd ask... Thanks, Jesse From edgould1948 at comcast.net Sat Mar 15 22:14:09 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Sat Mar 15 22:16:01 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re: X4U Digest, Vol 43, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: <20080315023810.2DD1213FF780@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On Mar 15, 2008, at 2:40 AM, David Ledger wrote: > --------------SNIP-------------------------------- > Maybe your 'offsite' backup doesn't need to be quite so off-site. > You can get fireproof document safes that will hold a hard drive > for less than ?30 ~ $60. They are "document" safes rather than > "data" safes, so they will not keep a drive safe if it's in the > middle of a house fire. But, depending on your local conditions and > circumstances, you may be able to keep one in an outhouse or even > bolted to a large paving slab in the garden. (If flood or insect > infestation is possible, the latter is not a good idea). There are > many situations where this would not do, but also many where it would. > > I have thought of buying an old big commercial 'beyond its sell-by > date' second hand data safe, putting it in my garden, and making it > look like a shed. I could then hold backups for people in the local > area. The main problem here in the UK would be preventing > condensation in winter. > > David > > David: Interesting idea but not really practical for me I live in the city in a 5 story building and absolutely no space out side to do so. I could get indoor space but it would be in the building and if a fire occurred it would might be damaged as well. Its a long explanation which I don't want to bore the list with (so I won't) but this is is an interesting suggestion. Really the first novel idea suggested, thanks! Ed From edgould1948 at comcast.net Sat Mar 15 22:18:57 2008 From: edgould1948 at comcast.net (Ed Gould) Date: Sat Mar 15 22:20:48 2008 Subject: [X4U] Spinoff Question on Backup question I had. Message-ID: I was talking to my friend and he had sort of suggested Blue Ray might be an option. I had a MAC G4 with a dual sided DVD builtin. It was *SLOW* to burn DVD's (approximately 12 hours to burn a double sided one) thats how slow it was. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how long to takes to burn a BLUE RAY DVD? I do *NOT* have a clue if they are two sided or not as they are extremely new on the market. Can anyone Help on this question, please. Ed From randy at macattorney.com Sat Mar 15 22:36:34 2008 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Sat Mar 15 22:36:43 2008 Subject: [X4U] Can't verify disk from boot volume. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39364040-7922-4F9D-B077-8616732DD40B@macattorney.com> On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Robert A. (Bob) Hall wrote: > I can't Verify my boot Volume using Disk Utility while on the boot > volume. The Verify button remains grayed out. This remains even > after I have repaired the boot Volume with both Disk Warrior and > Disk Utility on my external FireWire and the appear ok after the > repair. My OS is version 10.4.11. > > Can anyone tell me what the problem might be. The ability to verify the boot disk has been available since OS X 10.4.3: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302672 It will only work if the disk has been formatted as: Mac OS X Extended (Journaled). If the disk doesn't have journaling turned on, it won't work. There are other limitations also, have a look at the above article. I've heard from a number of folks who have had the volume selected in the left column instead of the entire drive, and that has been the limiting factor. (I just tried it, and it made no difference at all. Go figure.) ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From rashton at telus.net Sun Mar 16 06:02:18 2008 From: rashton at telus.net (Robert) Date: Sun Mar 16 06:02:28 2008 Subject: [X4U] Re Spinoff Question on Backup question I had. Message-ID: <824F9A73-6868-4C1F-8155-6A223A8E9F14@telus.net> I have a blu-ray burner and it takes a couple of hours to burn 25 gig. What I normally do is burn at night when I'm in bed so burn time is not really relevant. Sorry I can't tell you exact times as I didn't pay to much attention. This is on a Mac pro dual core 2.6. Bob From netkat at comcast.net Sun Mar 16 16:18:20 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (n) Date: Sun Mar 16 16:18:39 2008 Subject: [X4U] New Hardware rumors? Message-ID: <3e01e65e8358d43f93949a950823402a@comcast.net> Are there any rumors floating about as to potential new hardware announcements at the WWDC in June? if memory serves, that's the event at which Jobs announced the G5 back in 03....just curious....I'm kickin around the idea of getting a new machine, and in no special hurry, but wondered if I might want to hold off until June... n From nickscalise at cox.net Sun Mar 16 18:51:26 2008 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Sun Mar 16 18:51:40 2008 Subject: [X4U] New Hardware rumors? In-Reply-To: <3e01e65e8358d43f93949a950823402a@comcast.net> References: <3e01e65e8358d43f93949a950823402a@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Mar 16, 2008, at 6:18 PM, n wrote: > Are there any rumors floating about as to potential new hardware > announcements at the WWDC in June? > > if memory serves, that's the event at which Jobs announced the G5 > back in 03....just curious....I'm kickin around the idea of getting > a new machine, and in no special hurry, but wondered if I might want > to hold off until June... Check here for the average times between model updates: That will give you some idea of what to expect in the future. -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From shawn at yourmaclifeshow.com Sun Mar 16 20:23:05 2008 From: shawn at yourmaclifeshow.com (Shawn King) Date: Sun Mar 16 20:45:54 2008 Subject: [X4U] New Hardware rumors? In-Reply-To: <3e01e65e8358d43f93949a950823402a@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/16/08 7:18 PM, "n" wrote: > Are there any rumors floating about as to potential new hardware > announcements at the WWDC in June? > > if memory serves, that's the event at which Jobs announced the G5 back > in 03....just curious....I'm kickin around the idea of getting a new > machine, and in no special hurry, but wondered if I might want to hold > off until June... No rumors but hold off if you can. Doesn't hurt. -- Shawn King Host/Executive Producer Your Mac Life http://www.yourmaclifeshow.com From netkat at comcast.net Mon Mar 17 04:02:52 2008 From: netkat at comcast.net (n) Date: Mon Mar 17 04:03:38 2008 Subject: [X4U] Where dedicated GPU shines Message-ID: <854dcb8fb8c848fd550e09f315ea7677@comcast.net> Is gaming really the main place where the dedicated GPU of the MacBook Pro shines, or is it in any area related to screen re-draw? I've been reading comparisons of MacBook Pro versus MacBook, and while I expected the "Pro" model to be dramatically faster, it really isn't. The articles' main comment is something like "the main difference is that the MBPro has the dedicated GPU." Examples given of where this is key is in gaming. Which is great to know, except that I'm not a gamer... "Damnit, Jim! I'm an artist, not a gamer!!' thanks! n From photo at studiosaid.com Mon Mar 17 06:43:31 2008 From: photo at studiosaid.com (Said Nuseibeh) Date: Mon Mar 17 06:43:46 2008 Subject: [X4U] Back up ideas/suggestions needed.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Ed, I don't know as I can help you with your back-up plan directly but I do have a constructive suggestion vis-a-vis your memory issues. A very enlightened and cogent buddy of mine is on the development team of a product designed specifically to make your life easier and free of memory mishap. I wonder if you couldn't just program back-ups along with your meds? Ask him. Rajiv Mehta. Best, -Said On Friday, March 14, 2008, edgould1948@comcast.net wrote: >SIGH I wish it were that simple. I have my medication schedule on >ICAL and I frequently forget to take my medications. A friend has >found a possible way around it and we are trying it with mixed >success. Not to go into any detail but I am on 20+ meds a day and I >do forget at times to