From artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com Sat Nov 4 15:21:37 2006 From: artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com (Lela Tong) Date: Sat Nov 4 15:21:44 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows Message-ID: <20061104232137.24130.qmail@web38711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm new to the list. Does anyone know if the new Windows will allow the use of the laptop to the projectors which claim to be windows only? And then, there seems to be a non-existent cable connection. Does anyone know if a connection can be made? Thanks - Lela --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/xdreams/attachments/20061104/6a78d3e8/attachment.html From jsjones at mac.com Sat Nov 4 15:44:22 2006 From: jsjones at mac.com (James S Jones) Date: Sat Nov 4 15:44:26 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061104232137.24130.qmail@web38711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061104232137.24130.qmail@web38711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19425062-C3A6-4F46-9924-D7357931E24E@mac.com> Lela, This list is about Mac OS X, and not Windows of any flavor. That said, can you cite some examples of projectors that are "windows only"--and why? What do you mean by "non-existent cable connection"? Again, cite some specific examples of the projectors in question. On Nov 4, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Lela Tong wrote: > I'm new to the list. > > Does anyone know if the new Windows will allow the use of the > laptop to the projectors which claim to be windows only? > > And then, there seems to be a non-existent cable connection. Does > anyone know if a connection can be made? From artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com Sun Nov 5 14:07:04 2006 From: artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com (Lela Tong) Date: Sun Nov 5 14:07:10 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <19425062-C3A6-4F46-9924-D7357931E24E@mac.com> Message-ID: <20061105220704.62408.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi James, I was asking about the new "dream" operating system -- which I thought (am I wrong?) which allows the user to use both OS and Windows. None of my apple buddies have tried it yet -- so, I thought that I'd ask since I'd like to purchase this new system and a new mac if this will allow me to use projectors since I teach and need to use projectors which claim to be windows only. However, I'm also told that the Mac laptop doesn't have the cable port which is needed to connect to these projectors. Sorry - am I on the wrong forum? Lela James S Jones wrote: Lela, This list is about Mac OS X, and not Windows of any flavor. That said, can you cite some examples of projectors that are "windows only"--and why? What do you mean by "non-existent cable connection"? Again, cite some specific examples of the projectors in question. On Nov 4, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Lela Tong wrote: > I'm new to the list. > > Does anyone know if the new Windows will allow the use of the > laptop to the projectors which claim to be windows only? > > And then, there seems to be a non-existent cable connection. Does > anyone know if a connection can be made? _______________________________________________ XDreams mailing list XDreams@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/xdreams Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/xdreams/attachments/20061105/1ba81675/attachment.html From gibsonm at bigpond.net.au Sun Nov 5 14:36:46 2006 From: gibsonm at bigpond.net.au (Mark Gibson) Date: Sun Nov 5 14:37:05 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows Message-ID: Lela, Let me try and sort through the confusion and clarify issues (at least as I understand you are tying to ask about). The latest Macs (indeed any new Mac model that you now buy) are powered by an Intel chip. This along with appropriate software, one of which "Boot Camp" is currently in Beta (pre production) but will come with OS X 10.5, will let you run both Windows (as long as you own a copy) and OS X on a given Intel powered Mac. This perhaps covers "the new "dream" operating system -- which I thought (am I wrong?) which allows the user to use both OS and Windows." That being said, I don't believe, as James has said, that there are any projectors that are "Windows Only". Almost all projectors I have used or helped clients use, supported whatever machine was connected to it. The issue though is achieving the connection. Many projectors still use "VGA" as a standard connection (15 pins arranged in three rows of five). On a projector these are usually "female" (as in the 15 connections are recessed) and rely on a cable with 15 pins (commonly referred to as a "male" connection). The current MacBook Pro's have a different standard connection ("DVI") and the entry level machines have a slightly different connection ("Mini DVI"). The MacBook Pros come with a DVI to VGA adapter cable when purchased and the MacBooks have a Mini DVI to VGA adapter cable available as an accessory. Both cables are fairly short 15cm (or about 6") and you probably need an extension cable (male VGA at one end and female VGA at the other) to connect the two - if you want some distance between the projector and the MacBook / MacBook Pro. Now if the projector (like some new flat screen TV's) has a DVI connection, then things get a bit simpler in that you don't need adapter cables and you can use a single straight cable to join the two. The main issue is to find out what connection your proposed projector requires and how to achieve this from your Mac. You should find the operating system used on the computer has little or nothing to do with the issue. Hope that helps. Sorry about lack of context but previous thread "snipped" to get under list length limitations. :( -- Regards, Mark (}-: +61 (0)4 1927 7198 Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 ON POETIC LOVE When you're swimmin' in the creek And an eel bites your cheek That's a moray! -- Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers From bentley at crenelle.com Wed Nov 8 16:35:38 2006 From: bentley at crenelle.com (Michael Brian Bentley) Date: Wed Nov 8 16:36:12 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heh. The last time anyone used XDreams was on 4/11/05. There's also Parallels, a marvy program that lets you run Mac OS X and Windows stuff at the same time on one machine. From gibsonm at bigpond.net.au Wed Nov 8 17:07:59 2006 From: gibsonm at bigpond.net.au (Mark Gibson) Date: Wed Nov 8 17:08:14 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 16:35 -0800 8/11/06, Michael Brian Bentley wrote: >Heh. The last time anyone used XDreams was on 4/11/05. > >There's also Parallels, a marvy program that lets you run Mac OS X >and Windows stuff at the same time on one machine. >_______________________________________________ >XDreams mailing list >XDreams@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/xdreams > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 Sure, except her question was in terms of connecting to a projector not software. I guess we will never know given her delay in responding. -- Regards, Mark (}-: +61 (0)4 1927 7198 Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 Pro is to con as progress is to Congress. -- Unknown From artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com Thu Nov 9 03:41:41 2006 From: artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com (Lela Tong) Date: Thu Nov 9 03:41:51 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061109114141.42892.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Wow... 4/11/05? I wanted to double check with Circuit City and Office Depot -- where sales reps told me that their projectors work with Windows only. Situation: I teach, and use projectors which belong to hotels and companies -- many moons ago, I was told that these projectors won't work with Apple and so, I wanted to check again. Again, Windows only... that is, the sales rep at OD told me today. Thus, I was wondering if the Mac's new ability to use Windows would allow me to get a Mac since I need a new laptop. I had crossed over to the dark side awhile ago, but would like to rejoin the Apple world. Also, just wondering... would the Windows world allow the entry of viruses into the Apple world? Lela Mark Gibson wrote: At 16:35 -0800 8/11/06, Michael Brian Bentley wrote: >Heh. The last time anyone used XDreams was on 4/11/05. > >There's also Parallels, a marvy program that lets you run Mac OS X >and Windows stuff at the same time on one machine. >_______________________________________________ >XDreams mailing list >XDreams@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/xdreams > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 Sure, except her question was in terms of connecting to a projector not software. 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/xdreams/attachments/20061109/6e51b7d5/attachment-0001.html From wilann at telusplanet.net Thu Nov 9 05:31:20 2006 From: wilann at telusplanet.net (W Lane) Date: Thu Nov 9 05:33:06 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061109114141.42892.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061109114141.42892.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <89AABA82-0A10-46D0-A7AA-0ADD3A2490F3@telusplanet.net> On 06-Nov-9, at 4:41 AM, Lela Tong wrote: > I wanted to double check with Circuit City and Office Depot -- > where sales reps told me that their projectors work with Windows only. Wrong > > Situation: I teach, and use projectors which belong to hotels and > companies -- many moons ago, I was told that these projectors won't > work with Apple and so, I wanted to check again. Again, Windows > only... that is, the sales rep at OD told me today. Wrong, wrong and wrong. Give a specific make and model, I'll hunt one down, hook up one of our Macs and send you/him a pic of same. > > Thus, I was wondering if the Mac's new ability to use Windows would > allow me to get a Mac since I need a new laptop. Buy a Mac. Period. > I had crossed over to the dark side awhile ago, but would like to > rejoin the Apple world. A wise decision for a myriad of reasons > > Also, just wondering... would the Windows world allow the entry of > viruses into the Apple world? There are, at this point, 0 viruses in the wild for OS X From G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk Thu Nov 9 05:45:47 2006 From: G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk (Graham Perrin) Date: Thu Nov 9 05:46:36 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Mac OS and Windows making wired and wireless connections to projectors In-Reply-To: <20061109114141.42892.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061109114141.42892.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9 Nov 2006, at 11:41, Lela Tong wrote: > Hi, > > Wow... 4/11/05? > > I wanted to double check with Circuit City and Office Depot -- > where sales reps told me that their projectors work with Windows only. With respect to them, I seriously doubt that wisdom! As a blanket statement about projectors in general, it's certainly not true. I provide I.T. support to scores of users in a mixed Mac/Windows environment (two universities under the same roof) with all sorts of projectors and it's FAR more common for Windows users to have trouble with them. > Situation: I teach, and use projectors which belong to hotels and > companies -- many moons ago, I was told that these projectors won't > work with Apple and so, I wanted to check again. Again, Windows > only... that is, the sales rep at OD told me today. Next time you hear this, if practical, find out the make and model of the projector. > Thus, I was wondering if the Mac's new ability to use Windows would > allow me to get a Mac since I need a new laptop. I had crossed > over to the dark side awhile ago, but would like to rejoin the > Apple world. Don't hesitate to return to the bright side :-) Without wishing to complicate this off-topic discussion: it's true that there were (probably still are) some Windows-only products for making wireless connections to Mac-friendly projectors. An ordinary projector works fine with Mac OS and Windows and whatever when connected using traditional VGA or DVI cables ... but wireless video is more of a novelty -- developers of the wireless stuff may be less inclined to cater for Mac OS users. (Historically, when this type of wireless video was a *real* novelty, then it *was* difficult to get the wireless video stuff for Mac.) More recently, sensible developers have made their wireless products work with both Mac OS and Windows. See for example the WiJET series: et cetera. (By coincidence in the past few days I have been re-educating myself about these video-over-wireless gizmos.) From G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk Thu Nov 9 05:57:48 2006 From: G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk (Graham Perrin) Date: Thu Nov 9 05:57:51 2006 Subject: [XDreams] OT: virus protection in the context of Windows software on Macs In-Reply-To: <20061109114141.42892.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061109114141.42892.qmail@web38703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4FE4B25B-55FC-4BFB-8E50-98551248CA26@bton.ac.uk> On 9 Nov 2006, at 11:41, Lela Tong wrote: > Also, just wondering... would the Windows world allow the entry of > viruses into the Apple world? It's sensible to have virus protection on your Mac. For what it's worth, University of Brighton prefer Sophos. Broadly speaking: * if you run Windows on your mac, then it becomes more important to have virus protection on your Mac. It goes without saying that virus protection for Windows is essential. If you think beyond the simple 'container' concept (Windows XP contained within a window on your Mac) and opt to share items: * from Mac OS to Windows (very neat when you know how) * or from Windows to Mac (less graceful) -- then virus protection on your Mac is probably essential. So, I have: a) Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac OS and b) Sophos Anti-Virus for Windows --- If you adopt the CrossOver (or Wine) approach to running Windows- oriented software *without* Microsoft Windows, then there's a simple reassuring answer to our questions about risk from Windows-oriented viruses. See for example > not one of our many customers has ever reported a problem with a > virus or other nasty beast on CrossOver. Regards Graham From artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com Tue Nov 14 21:47:18 2006 From: artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com (Lela Tong) Date: Tue Nov 14 21:47:27 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <89AABA82-0A10-46D0-A7AA-0ADD3A2490F3@telusplanet.net> Message-ID: <20061115054719.81426.qmail@web38706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This time, I went to CompUSA -- the rep said yes re the projector connection and showed me a usd 20 video adapter which he said was Apple proprietary and didn't think that this cable was readily available. Kindly let me know -- is this a rare cable which is only available thru Apple? Lela W Lane wrote: On 06-Nov-9, at 4:41 AM, Lela Tong wrote: > I wanted to double check with Circuit City and Office Depot -- > where sales reps told me that their projectors work with Windows only. Wrong > > Situation: I teach, and use projectors which belong to hotels and > companies -- many moons ago, I was told that these projectors won't > work with Apple and so, I wanted to check again. Again, Windows > only... that is, the sales rep at OD told me today. Wrong, wrong and wrong. Give a specific make and model, I'll hunt one down, hook up one of our Macs and send you/him a pic of same. > > Thus, I was wondering if the Mac's new ability to use Windows would > allow me to get a Mac since I need a new laptop. Buy a Mac. Period. > I had crossed over to the dark side awhile ago, but would like to > rejoin the Apple world. A wise decision for a myriad of reasons > > Also, just wondering... would the Windows world allow the entry of > viruses into the Apple world? 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/xdreams/attachments/20061114/8df4a182/attachment.html From wilann at telusplanet.net Wed Nov 15 05:35:28 2006 From: wilann at telusplanet.net (W Lane) Date: Wed Nov 15 05:35:38 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061115054719.81426.qmail@web38706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061115054719.81426.qmail@web38706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 06-Nov-14, at 10:47 PM, Lela Tong wrote: > This time, I went to CompUSA -- the rep said yes re the projector > connection and showed me a usd 20 video adapter which he said was > Apple proprietary and didn't think that this cable was readily > available. > > Kindly let me know -- is this a rare cable which is only available > thru Apple? > > Lela Apparently not, in that the Comp USA fellow showed you one. From mjm at svsu.edu Wed Nov 15 11:32:17 2006 From: mjm at svsu.edu (Mark J. Miller) Date: Wed Nov 15 11:32:28 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061115054719.81426.qmail@web38706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061115054719.81426.qmail@web38706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Lela, Ok, what the heck's a "usd 20 video adapter"? I went to Apple.com and looked at the specs for the MacBook and the MacBook Pro. I don't remember which one you said you were looking at; I don't have your original email handy. None of Apple's laptops have VGA connectors, which is what the projectors usually require. So, Office Depot is partially correct. Most projectors won't *automatically* work with Apple laptops. However, as a prior post stated, the projectors don't care what's plugged into them as long as the connector is the correct type. Apple sells or supplies adapter cables to allow VGA devices to connect to the laptops. The MacBook has a connection that's called Mini-DVI. When you spec out a MacBook on line at Apple.com you have the option to specify which of a couple of different adapters you want. What you want is an Apple Mini-DVI to VGA Adapter. The MacBook Pro automatically comes with a DVI to VGA Adapter. The difference is that the MacBook Pro has more room for Apple's standard size DVI connector. The cable's usually only available from Apple.com, Apple Stores, and Apple authorized dealers, like CompUSA. So, the rep is correct that the cable's not readily available; outside of those places. It's basically a custom cable that allows standard PC type VGA devices, like monitors, to be connected to a Apple computer. I'd compare prices between CompUSA and Apple.com. Here's the link: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa I'd also recommend Smalldog.com: http://www.smalldog.com You can call 1-800-MY-APPLE or Smalldog and get your questions answered as well. Also, as far as viruses, there are zero viruses in the Mac world right now. However, Windows malware would infect the Windows side of your Mac. So, you would need the standard Windows protection apps for the Windows side. In addition, there are Microsoft Office exploits that don't currently bother Mac users but can be passed on. Mark :-) - The man who fights for his ideals is the man who is - alive! - Miguel de Cervantes, author of Don Quixote >This time, I went to CompUSA -- the rep said yes re the projector >connection and showed me a usd 20 video adapter which he said was >Apple proprietary and didn't think that this cable was readily >available. > >Kindly let me know -- is this a rare cable which is only available thru Apple? > >Lela > > >W Lane wrote: > > >On 06-Nov-9, at 4:41 AM, Lela Tong wrote: > >> I wanted to double check with Circuit City and Office Depot -- >> where sales reps told me that their projectors work with Windows only. > >Wrong > >> >> Situation: I teach, and use projectors which belong to hotels and >> companies -- many moons ago, I was told that these projectors won't >> work with Apple and so, I wanted to check again. Again, Windows >> only... that is, the sales rep at OD told me today. > >Wrong, wrong and wrong. Give a specific make and model, I'll hunt one >down, hook up one of our Macs and send you/him a pic of same. > >> >> Thus, I was wondering if the Mac's new ability to use Windows would >> allow me to get a Mac since I need a new laptop. > >Buy a Mac. Period. > >> I had crossed over to the dark side awhile ago, but would like to >> rejoin the Apple world. > >A wise decision for a myriad of reasons > >> >> Also, just wondering... would the Windows world allow the entry of >> viruses into the Apple world? > >There are, at this point, 0 viruses in the wild for OS X > >_______________________________________________ >XDreams mailing list >XDreams@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/xdreams > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: >http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > > >Sponsored Link > >$420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/month - >Think >You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! > >_______________________________________________ >XDreams mailing list >XDreams@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/xdreams > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Wed Nov 15 10:52:52 2006 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Wed Nov 15 11:57:09 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thus spake Mark J. Miller , circa 11/15/2006 3:32 PM: > Ok, what the heck's a "usd 20 video adapter"? That's a $20 adapter. USD = U.S. Dollars. peter From mjm at svsu.edu Wed Nov 15 16:01:36 2006 From: mjm at svsu.edu (Mark Miller) Date: Wed Nov 15 16:01:48 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <455B6410.7A58.0078.0@svsu.edu> Okay. Makes sense. Since I didn't think we had been talking money my mind didn't make the connection. Mark :-) - The man who fights for his ideals is the man who is - alive! - Miguel de Cervantes, author of Don Quixote >>> "Peter C.S. Adams" 11/15/06 1:52 PM >>> Thus spake Mark J. Miller , circa 11/15/2006 3:32 PM: > Ok, what the heck's a "usd 20 video adapter"? That's a $20 adapter. USD = U.S. Dollars. peter _______________________________________________ XDreams mailing list XDreams@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/xdreams Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From Jan at Bytesmiths.com Wed Nov 15 19:38:43 2006 From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman) Date: Wed Nov 15 19:39:59 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Re: Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061116000152.376EA423A8E@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061116000152.376EA423A8E@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <5CF8F449-4BDC-4DC8-A9AE-0EBFE19076F9@Bytesmiths.com> > On 06-Nov-9, at 4:41 AM, Lela Tong wrote: > >> I wanted to double check with Circuit City and Office Depot -- >> where sales reps told me that their projectors work with Windows >> only. I generally have fewer problems than Windows people do. This summer, I was staff at a natural building school. We had evening programs that required video presentations. *At least half the time,* the frustrated user of a Windows laptop would burn their presentation to a CD, and I would show it (using Keynote, which reads SourPoint files flawlessly) on the projector. As you've noted, you do need an adaptor. But you don't need to buy it -- my PowerBook G4 17" came with an VGA adaptor, which is all I've ever had to use. :::: At best, it [conservation] means we will run out of energy a little more slowly. -- Ronald Reagan :::: :::: Jan Steinman :::: From pixie at iafrica.com Wed Nov 15 20:41:10 2006 From: pixie at iafrica.com (Rick Colborne) Date: Wed Nov 15 20:42:52 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Please unsubscribe Message-ID: <2E992D9F-65C8-4B2D-8B5F-E24C6D76351F@iafrica.com> Thanks From pixie at iafrica.com Wed Nov 15 20:47:18 2006 From: pixie at iafrica.com (Rick Colborne) Date: Wed Nov 15 20:49:06 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Thanks Message-ID: From artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com Wed Nov 15 22:01:18 2006 From: artofbusiness_computer at yahoo.com (Lela Tong) Date: Wed Nov 15 22:01:21 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Mark, Thanks for the great explanation. Sorry for the confusion, the print said "video adapter" w/CompUSA price, usd 19.95. Thanks for the specifics re the Apple Mini-DVI to VGA Adapter -- critical info. I gotta get a new laptop and, I'm looking at the 13 inch MacBook. I'm also getting a camcorder and digital camera since my mission is to liven up my presentations -- I guess that I need to check if I have all the 'special' cables. Many many moons ago, I had an Apple but then, I did a switch and got a Sony (13.3 inch -- at the time, Sony was the closest thing to an Apple) since I travel in Asia (and, like a turtle, I must carry everything on my back) and often have to go back-and-forth between other people's equipment which were typically PC-based. Also, as u know, PC parts and accessories are readily available. Thus, I'm really interested in the new OS-Windows version. The reps tell me that it's 'work-in-progress' (hmmm, is there cause for worry?) -- there's the bootcamp download and the optional software "parallel." And, anyone's experience on working with a bunch of PC's since it's been awhile since I had to do it. Thus, should I wait a bit longer or is it safe to get the Apple now? Lela --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro-*Terms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/xdreams/attachments/20061115/ccba82b7/attachment.html From gibsonm at bigpond.net.au Wed Nov 15 22:27:44 2006 From: gibsonm at bigpond.net.au (Mark Gibson) Date: Wed Nov 15 22:28:06 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 22:01 -0800 15/11/06, Lela Tong wrote: >Hi Mark, > >Thanks for the great explanation. > >Sorry for the confusion, the print said "video adapter" w/CompUSA >price, usd 19.95. Thanks for the specifics re the Apple Mini-DVI to >VGA Adapter -- critical info. > >I gotta get a new laptop and, I'm looking at the 13 inch MacBook. >I'm also getting a camcorder and digital camera since my mission is >to liven up my presentations -- I guess that I need to check if I >have all the 'special' cables. > >Many many moons ago, I had an Apple but then, I did a switch and got >a Sony (13.3 inch -- at the time, Sony was the closest thing to an >Apple) since I travel in Asia (and, like a turtle, I must carry >everything on my back) and often have to go back-and-forth between >other people's equipment which were typically PC-based. > >Also, as u know, PC parts and accessories are readily available. > >Thus, I'm really interested in the new OS-Windows version. The reps >tell me that it's 'work-in-progress' (hmmm, is there cause for >worry?) -- there's the bootcamp download and the optional software >"parallel." > >And, anyone's experience on working with a bunch of PC's since it's >been awhile since I had to do it. Thus, should I wait a bit longer >or is it safe to get the Apple now? > >Lela Different Mark, but possibly the same information. 1. Please read the post / email that I sent you on the 6th of this month outlining connection options. 2. The 13" MacBook does not come with any adapters for external projectors. You will need to by either: a. A mini DVI to VGA adapter or b. A mini DVI to DVI adapter depending of what you need to hook up to. If you are unsure, buy both (they are AUD$35 each so I'm guessing USD$20 or so). 3. The 15" and 17" MacBook Pro's do come with DVI output built in and DVI to VGA adapter as part of the machine bundle so you don't need to buy anything extra. 4. As for Windows on Mac. Its not an "OS-Windows". The new Intel chip allows the machine to run Windows as well as OS X (Windows is not somehow built into OS X). A bit like a multi format TV that can be tuned to NTSC or PAL. There are currently two main options. Boot Camp (currently in beta but will be part of 10.5) or via applications such as CrossOver or Parallels. Boot Camp provides the best compatibility and speed but you have to start the Mac as a Windows machine. CrossOver or Parallels provides the best convenience as they are applications (like Word, etc.) that run in OS X - no reboot required but you can run into performance (slower) and compatibility (graphic cards, etc.) issues. Either option requires a full copy of Windows XP to work (i.e. you have to buy a copy). -- Regards, Mark (}-: +61 (0)4 1927 7198 Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. --Harlan Ellison From G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk Wed Nov 15 23:54:14 2006 From: G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk (Graham Perrin) Date: Wed Nov 15 23:54:39 2006 Subject: [XDreams] (1) Boot Camp in context of Parallels; (2) CrossOver does not require Windows In-Reply-To: References: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 16 Nov 2006, at 06:27, Mark Gibson wrote: > Boot Camp ... > CrossOver or Parallels ... > Either option requires a full copy of Windows XP to work (i.e. you > have to buy a copy). Apologies if any of this has been detailed before... 1) Apple Boot Camp is designed for Microsoft Windows XP on Apple hardware. Doesn't *require* Windows, but if you don't purchase/ license Windows then you don't have the second operating system. ########## 2) Parallels Desktop for Mac is designed for a wide range of operating systems, not just XP; see . Again, you must obtain the other operating system(s); the Parallels product is not supplied with an OS. For what it's worth: whilst Parallels do not explicitly support version 6.06 of Ubuntu Linux, I do occasionally use this version without difficulty.* ########## 3) I suspect that the 'Macintosh Drivers for Windows XP' CD, which can be burnt by Boot Camp, is useful in contexts other than Boot Camp: >> The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to >> recognize Mac-specific hardware so (for example) I guess that Windows XP in a Parallels environment will make better use of Apple UK keyboard layouts** if you autorun the 'Macintosh Drivers for Windows XP' CD after installing XP in Parallels.*** ########## 4) CodeWeavers Crossover Mac does not require Windows; broadly speaking, it's intended to be a replacement for Microsoft's operating systems. >> CrossOver is a complete replacement for your Windows OS as far as >> your Windows software is concerned but at their compatibility centre you should check for the Windows programs in which you're interested. As examples: three of four Microsoft Office 2000 applications have gold medal status four of five Microsoft Office 2003 applications have bronze medal status. ---------- If you're adventurous, and not inclined to pay for CodeWeavers software, then you might try Wine , on which CrossOver Mac is based. That said, CodeWeavers is the leading corporate backer of Wine -- and both flavours are intended to replace Microsoft Windows -- so I fully support spending money in the direction of CodeWeavers (not Microsoft). ########## The Apple and CodeWeavers products are in beta testing. Beta version 3 of CrossOver Mac was released on Monday and within their announcement I read: >> At this point, we feel we're finally beginning to converge on a >> final 6.0. We still have some major issues we hope to solve, >> mostly with programs like Quicken 2007. Parallels Desktop for Mac is out of beta testing. --- * Not sure whether version 6.06 of Ubuntu halts properly within Parallels. But I digress... ** Recalling the dog that was Microsoft Virtual PC, I found it ludicrous that I could not use my keyboard to enter the backslash "\" character whilst using Windows. *** Whether use of Apple's drivers beyond Boot Camp fits with Apple's licensing conditions, I don't know. Regards Graham From G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk Wed Nov 15 23:56:26 2006 From: G.J.Perrin at bton.ac.uk (Graham Perrin) Date: Wed Nov 15 23:56:35 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: References: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 16 Nov 2006, at 06:27, Mark Gibson wrote: > 4. As for Windows on Mac. Its not an "OS-Windows". The new Intel > chip allows the machine to run Windows as well as OS X (Windows is > not somehow built into OS X). A bit like a multi format TV that can > be tuned to NTSC or PAL. Very nice analogy :-) From wilann at telusplanet.net Thu Nov 16 04:55:36 2006 From: wilann at telusplanet.net (W Lane) Date: Thu Nov 16 04:56:31 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0F8AF37A-5283-4A92-A904-93A8D7D6FC37@telusplanet.net> On 06-Nov-15, at 11:01 PM, Lela Tong wrote: > I gotta get a new laptop and, I'm looking at the 13 inch MacBook. I have one, it's great. My advice, for what it sounds like you are going to be doing, max out the RAM and go for a larger HD. > I'm also getting a camcorder and digital camera since my mission > is to liven up my presentations -- I guess that I need to check if > I have all the 'special' cables. For the digital camera, USB connection is fine. For the camcorder, make CERTAIN that it has FireWire connectivity. > > Many many moons ago, I had an Apple but then, I did a switch and > got a Sony (13.3 inch -- at the time, Sony was the closest thing to > an Apple) since I travel in Asia (and, like a turtle, I must carry > everything on my back) and often have to go back-and-forth between > other people's equipment which were typically PC-based. > > Also, as u know, PC parts and accessories are readily available. > > Thus, I'm really interested in the new OS-Windows version. The > reps tell me that it's 'work-in-progress' Apple's own 'Boot Camp' is at this point Beta software but will apparently be integrated into Leopard. > (hmmm, is there cause for worry?) -- there's the bootcamp download > and the optional software "parallel." Parallels, in my view, is a better option that Boot Camp in it's present state. Boot Camp allows/forces you to pick which OS you wish to use at startup. To switch from one to the other requires a restart of the computer. Parallels will run multiple OS'es simultaneously. It works VERY well. > > And, anyone's experience on working with a bunch of PC's since it's > been awhile since I had to do it. We all, as Mac users, 'work with a bunch of PC's', for the most part with no problems. Having said that, I can cite instances of software available ONLY for PC's, thereby rendering the Mac 'useless', but at the same time can name software available only for the Mac, rendering the PC 'useless'. On the other hand, I have never seen Apple computers that could not play nicely with each other. I HAVE, however, seen several instances where 'identical' PC's simply could not read files created by each other. In several of those instances I have acted as the 'go between'. Harkening back to the floppy days, PC 1 would save a Word document to a floppy, I would open it on my Mac using MacLink Plus and AppleWorks (not having Word on my computer), save it as a renamed Word document back to a new floppy (which I formatted for PC on my Mac), provided that floppy to PC 2 and TA DA! PC 2 was now able to read the floppy AND the document. Even today I've still done the same thing for PC pals, the difference being that the files no longer travel via floppy. > Thus, should I wait a bit longer or is it safe to get the Apple now? It is always safe to get an Apple. Of course, there is always 'the next upgrade' just around the corner and some folks wait forever. Buy a Mac. > From susan at aspiring-arts.com Thu Nov 16 05:35:06 2006 From: susan at aspiring-arts.com (Susan) Date: Thu Nov 16 05:35:18 2006 Subject: [XDreams] (1) Boot Camp in context of Parallels; (2) CrossOver does not require Windows In-Reply-To: References: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <687CFD82-D270-4116-A4E5-510674EF6D62@aspiring-arts.com> > > 3) I suspect that the 'Macintosh Drivers for Windows XP' CD, which > can be burnt by Boot Camp, is useful in contexts other than Boot Camp: > >>> The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to >>> recognize Mac-specific hardware > > so (for example) I guess that Windows XP in a Parallels environment > will make better use of Apple UK keyboard layouts** if you autorun > the 'Macintosh Drivers for Windows XP' CD after installing XP in > Parallels.*** Do we know if it enables the iSight camera without causing a BSOD? That's the one thing I'd really like to use in my Parallels... Susan From osxlists at free.fr Thu Nov 16 05:35:21 2006 From: osxlists at free.fr (osxlists) Date: Thu Nov 16 05:35:48 2006 Subject: [XDreams] What the F**** Windows Projectors have to do with future versions of OSX !!!! In-Reply-To: <0F8AF37A-5283-4A92-A904-93A8D7D6FC37@telusplanet.net> References: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0F8AF37A-5283-4A92-A904-93A8D7D6FC37@telusplanet.net> Message-ID: <8B6907DD-804E-44E9-8FF6-7A26AB1C88FA@free.fr> I'm tired of receiving non appropriate posts ! A place to discuss dreams for future versions of Mac OS X. From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Thu Nov 16 04:10:52 2006 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Thu Nov 16 06:05:27 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Re: Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <5CF8F449-4BDC-4DC8-A9AE-0EBFE19076F9@Bytesmiths.com> Message-ID: Thus spake Jan Steinman , circa 11/15/2006 11:38 PM: > This summer, I was staff at a natural building school. We had evening > programs that required video presentations. *At least half the time,* > the frustrated user of a Windows laptop would burn their presentation > to a CD, and I would show it (using Keynote Something similar happened to me recently. I checked out five iBooks to a professor chairing a conference and Saturday afternoon got a frantic call -- the University's help desk was trying to set up and they needed the administrative password to connect the projectors. Huh? I thought. So I told them to close the lid to put it to sleep, plug in the projector, turn it on, and open the lid again to wake it up. "Ah! It works!" they said. "Duh," I thought. I still don't know what the Windows experts at the help desk though they needed to do. peter From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Thu Nov 16 05:48:06 2006 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Thu Nov 16 06:55:25 2006 Subject: [XDreams] What the F**** Windows Projectors have to do with future versions of OSX !!!! In-Reply-To: <8B6907DD-804E-44E9-8FF6-7A26AB1C88FA@free.fr> Message-ID: Thus spake osxlists , circa 11/16/2006 9:35 AM: > A place to discuss dreams for future versions of Mac OS X. Now that Vista is ready to ship, when will Steve start revealing the "secret features" of Leopard he promised but wouldn't reveal? What are folks hoping to see? Personally, I've long hoped for something like "Core Data" -- an easy to use front end to MySQL. Apple has built in tools for just about everything -- text, html, animation, graphics, etc. -- but nothing for database and spreadsheets. peter From osxlists at free.fr Thu Nov 16 07:04:27 2006 From: osxlists at free.fr (osxlists) Date: Thu Nov 16 07:04:59 2006 Subject: [XDreams] What the F**** Windows Projectors have to do with future versions of OSX !!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <938AF52E-1625-4C26-B10F-02006F951AFF@free.fr> Yes! For an exemple, a real database behind iTunes! m On Nov 16, 2006, at 14:48 , Peter C.S. Adams wrote: > Thus spake osxlists , circa 11/16/2006 9:35 AM: >> A place to discuss dreams for future versions of Mac OS X. > > Now that Vista is ready to ship, when will Steve start revealing > the "secret > features" of Leopard he promised but wouldn't reveal? What are > folks hoping > to see? Personally, I've long hoped for something like "Core Data" > -- an > easy to use front end to MySQL. Apple has built in tools for just > about > everything -- text, html, animation, graphics, etc. -- but nothing for > database and spreadsheets. > > peter > > > _______________________________________________ > XDreams mailing list > XDreams@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/xdreams > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Thu Nov 16 06:08:39 2006 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Thu Nov 16 07:15:43 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thus spake Mark Gibson , circa 11/16/2006 2:27 AM: > Boot Camp provides the best compatibility and speed but you have to start the > Mac as a Windows machine. CrossOver or Parallels provides the best convenience > as they are applications (like Word, etc.) that run in OS X - no reboot > required but you can run into performance (slower) and compatibility (graphic > cards, etc.) issues. Either option requires a full copy of Windows XP to work > (i.e. you have to buy a copy). Minor quibble: Boot Camp requires a CD for Windows XP SP 2 -- nothing else will work (at least as of a couple months ago). Parallels will work with any version of Windows, DOS, or, in theory, Linux. In my limited testing, Parallels ran everything at full speed without a hiccup, though I did not run any games. Streaming video ran at full speed. Crossover does not require a copy of Windows at all. It emulates Windows APIs. This allows it to run without Windows, but must be tweaked regularly as the APIs change or compatibility problems are found. That's why applications must be certified based on the level of compatibility they have achieved with it. peter From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Thu Nov 16 06:30:47 2006 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Thu Nov 16 07:35:39 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thus spake Lela Tong , circa 11/16/2006: > And, anyone's experience on working with a bunch of PC's since it's been > awhile since I had to do it. Thus, should I wait a bit longer or is it safe > to get the Apple now? I agree, it's always safe to get an Apple. Occasionally you'll buy right before a new model comes out, but that happens with any machine. (I'll admit I would've been upset to buy a Macbook right before they upgraded them to the Core 2 Duo!) Using Macs and PCs together is mostly pretty seamless. The only major problems, I think, are Microsoft Publisher and Access -- there's no Mac version and no Mac app can open the files. But with Boot Camp, CrossOver, or Parallels, you can even manage those. Three things you may want to explore are: 1. The free Flip4Mac plug-in for QuickTime that allows you to play WMV and WMA files. Download here: 2. The commercial product MacLinkPlus which can convert files between hundreds of formats, allowing you to use PCX and WordPerfect files, etc. More info here: 3. MacWindows, a web site devoted to cross-platform issues. peter From nacohen at mac.com Thu Nov 16 09:00:14 2006 From: nacohen at mac.com (Norman Cohen) Date: Thu Nov 16 09:00:26 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not entirely true. The Actual ODBC driver fro Access allows one to import data from Access into Excel and Filemaker Pro or any other ODBC compatible program. Well worth the $30 it cost. Norm --- Norman A. Cohen nacohen@mac.com "Parents were invented to make children happy by giving them something to ignore." Ogden Nash On Nov 16, 2006, at 06:30 AM, Peter C.S. Adams wrote: > Using Macs and PCs together is mostly pretty seamless. The only major > problems, I think, are Microsoft Publisher and Access -- there's no > Mac > version and no Mac app can open the files. But with Boot Camp, > CrossOver, or > Parallels, you can even manage those. From mjm at svsu.edu Thu Nov 16 09:26:41 2006 From: mjm at svsu.edu (Mark J. Miller) Date: Thu Nov 16 09:26:48 2006 Subject: Leopard wishes - Was: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Boot camp that allows switching without rebooting. No matter how good Boot Camp is if you can't switch back and forth without rebooting then I won't use it. Not with Parallels and Crossover out there. At 10:30 AM -0400 11/16/06, Peter C.S. Adams wrote: >2. The commercial product MacLinkPlus which can convert files between >hundreds of formats, allowing you to use PCX and WordPerfect files, etc. I haven't needed to use MacLinkPlus in a while. How well is it translating WordPerfect. I had been using the old version of Mac WordPerfect to read those files, but there's several gotchas in Mac WordPerfect, because it was never upgraded, that are starting to annoy me more and more. Plus, I don't know how much work I want to do to get it to work on my new intel mac. -- Mark :-) - "You know, I used to think it was awful that life - was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much - worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things - that happen to us come because we actually deserve - them? So, now I take great comfort in the general - hostility and unfairness of the universe." - --Marcus (J Michael Straczynski) - Babylon 5: "A Late Delivery from Avalon" From douglist at macnauchtan.com Thu Nov 16 10:33:17 2006 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Thu Nov 16 10:34:07 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Re: Leopard wishes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:26 -0500 11/16/06, Mark J. Miller wrote: >Boot camp that allows switching without rebooting. Parallels. Not free but allows that and Linux too on Tiger. -- --> Protons have mass? I didn't even know they were Catholic. <-- From gibsonm at bigpond.net.au Thu Nov 16 12:01:47 2006 From: gibsonm at bigpond.net.au (Mark Gibson) Date: Thu Nov 16 12:02:03 2006 Subject: [XDreams] What the F**** Windows Projectors have to do with future versions of OSX !!!! In-Reply-To: <8B6907DD-804E-44E9-8FF6-7A26AB1C88FA@free.fr> References: <20061116060118.39862.qmail@web38701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0F8AF37A-5283-4A92-A904-93A8D7D6FC37@telusplanet.net> <8B6907DD-804E-44E9-8FF6-7A26AB1C88FA@free.fr> Message-ID: At 14:35 +0100 16/11/06, osxlists wrote: >I'm tired of receiving non appropriate posts ! Sure, but given prior to this off topic post the list was silent for some 19 months while the "Dreamers" were out to lunch somewhere, it seemed more appropriate to answer the lady's question than send something like: "This is off topic - find somewhere better to post it" Don't you think? :) -- Regards, Mark (}-: +61 (0)4 1927 7198 Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats. -- Unknown From Jan at Bytesmiths.com Thu Nov 16 14:01:33 2006 From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman) Date: Thu Nov 16 14:02:35 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Re: Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: <20061116125635.7E25542C5D5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061116125635.7E25542C5D5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <277B6CD1-F700-4360-920B-7251F0340E36@Bytesmiths.com> > From: Lela Tong > ... should I wait a bit longer or is it safe to get the Apple now? As if it's ever been "safe" to buy a Windows machine? :-) :::: The tragedy of modern war is not so much that young men die but that they die fighting each other... instead of their real enemies back home in the capitals. -- Edward Abbey :::: Jan Steinman, http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Events From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Thu Nov 16 13:07:20 2006 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Fri Nov 17 06:56:05 2006 Subject: Leopard wishes - Was: [XDreams] Projectors using Windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thus spake Mark J. Miller , circa 11/16/2006 1:26 PM: > I haven't needed to use MacLinkPlus in a while. How well is it > translating WordPerfect. I had been using the old version of Mac > WordPerfect to read those files, but there's several gotchas in Mac > WordPerfect, because it was never upgraded, that are starting to > annoy me more and more. Sorry, I'm using a copy of MacLinkPlus that's two versions out of date, and I haven't seen a WordPerfect file in years. I don't use MacLink very often, but I do consider it a very useful utility in a Mac/Windows environment. peter From maxmiles at cox.net Sat Nov 25 05:00:57 2006 From: maxmiles at cox.net (Max Miles) Date: Sat Nov 25 05:01:07 2006 Subject: [XDreams] set open page In-Reply-To: <19425062-C3A6-4F46-9924-D7357931E24E@mac.com> References: <20061104232137.24130.qmail@web38711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <19425062-C3A6-4F46-9924-D7357931E24E@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Is there a way to program an application like Textedit to open a particular document at a certain page, or at the end of the document? I use TextEdit for almost all of my word processing and lately have been getting annoyed at having to scroll down some of the more lengthly documents in use. Any ideas? thanks, max Wherever you go, there you are! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are ways to create anchors or bookmarks in other file formats, such as Word, but no way to address them; I don't think you can even create anchors at all in text or RTF files. peter From maxmiles at cox.net Wed Nov 29 23:22:04 2006 From: maxmiles at cox.net (Max Miles) Date: Wed Nov 29 23:22:11 2006 Subject: [XDreams] set open page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BEF1F38-73A7-429E-9843-E3E3294ADA9B@cox.net> Hey Peter, Reading your notes, I briefly thought about Spotlight... the search function locates text within a document. Couldn't it also specify view area upon opening the document? Not so... so what's Spotlight doing? What I mean is, (and without knowing much of anything about how the code is written, how these things operate) Spotlight creates an index. The index has information on unique words, perhaps even strings of text within each file indexed. Couldn't you add a function to this indexing feature, storing data about word location? cheers, m From maxmiles at cox.net Wed Nov 29 23:27:36 2006 From: maxmiles at cox.net (Max Miles) Date: Wed Nov 29 23:27:45 2006 Subject: [XDreams] Initiating edits in iTunes Message-ID: <48F9E0CD-2352-4A5E-BE6B-46A2B0DD2E48@cox.net> How about a utility that could instantly open into quicktime an mp3 being played in iTunes. Are developers allowed to make add-ons like this in iTunes? Like add a button or menu option? m Wherever you go, there you are! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/xdreams/attachments/20061130/20df5f51/attachment.html From adamsp at cs.umb.edu Thu Nov 30 09:38:26 2006 From: adamsp at cs.umb.edu (Peter C.S. Adams) Date: Thu Nov 30 10:46:58 2006 Subject: [XDreams] set open page In-Reply-To: <1BEF1F38-73A7-429E-9843-E3E3294ADA9B@cox.net> Message-ID: Thus spake Max Miles , circa 11/30/2006 3:22 AM: > What I mean is, (and without knowing much of anything about how the > code is written, how these things operate) Spotlight creates an > index. The index has information on unique words, perhaps even > strings of text within each file indexed. Couldn't you add a function > to this indexing feature, storing data about word location? I couldn't! :-> But it's a good wish list item. Why not suggest it to Apple at their feedback page? peter