From jmyers0341 at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 08:51:34 2007 From: jmyers0341 at gmail.com (Jason Myers) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:00:59 2007 Subject: [Cube] DVI to ADC adapters question... In-Reply-To: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> References: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> Message-ID: Riba - The DVIator will power the translucent 23 inch - I have it hooked up to my MBP via DVIator as we speak. There was an issue with the monitor flickering every time I hooked a USB device up to my computer, but I disconnected the USB from the DVIator and haven't had any problems since. Jason On 3/22/07, Riba wrote: > > Hello all, > > As some of you may know, a while ago I bought a DVI to ADC adapter on > ebay. However the USPS managed to screw it up and they delivered it > to god knows whom, but it certainly wasn't me. Of course it wasn't > insured. > > Anyway, I have to buy another one, but while looking for another one > I spotted that there are two Apple part numbers for DVI to ADC > adapters. One is M8661LL/B, and the other is A1006. On the photos > they look the same and I haven't noticed any differences between > them. Can someone shed some light on this? > > I also thought about getting a DrBoot DVIator, as they sell for > roughly the same price on ebay, but if I get DVIator I will get > another Cube power supply that I'd be able to use in case the > original dies on me.... it is the same power supply, correct? Can > anyone confirm that DVIator will drive a 23" cinema display > (translucent one)? > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -- Jason Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070406/7c86dd34/attachment.html From pep27 at mac.com Fri Apr 6 10:46:10 2007 From: pep27 at mac.com (George Pepper) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:21:08 2007 Subject: [Cube] DVI to ADC adapters question... In-Reply-To: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> References: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> Message-ID: <1DBA37E9-BD6B-4308-8377-0A151A97E864@mac.com> I can confirm that the A1006 will run an ADC 23" Cinema HD Display. I use it now to run mine from a Mini. The monitor's power button is no longer functional, of course, but the USB ports are. Does the DVIator have a USB connector for the monitor? That would seem to be the most important question there. The only thing I can think about the different numbers is that the M8661LL/B may be a newer model with some improved features. Mine is several years old, and there was only one model when I got mine. Cheers, George A Pepper BM MM "The Alps of Texas", USA http://hucbald.blogspot.com/ On Mar 22, 2007, at 7:52 AM, Riba wrote: > Hello all, > > As some of you may know, a while ago I bought a DVI to ADC adapter > on ebay. However the USPS managed to screw it up and they delivered > it to god knows whom, but it certainly wasn't me. Of course it > wasn't insured. > > Anyway, I have to buy another one, but while looking for another > one I spotted that there are two Apple part numbers for DVI to ADC > adapters. One is M8661LL/B, and the other is A1006. On the photos > they look the same and I haven't noticed any differences between > them. Can someone shed some light on this? > > I also thought about getting a DrBoot DVIator, as they sell for > roughly the same price on ebay, but if I get DVIator I will get > another Cube power supply that I'd be able to use in case the > original dies on me.... it is the same power supply, correct? Can > anyone confirm that DVIator will drive a 23" cinema display > (translucent one)? > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From ronsteinke at mac.com Fri Apr 6 10:53:52 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:21:31 2007 Subject: [Cube] DVI to ADC adapters question... In-Reply-To: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> References: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> Message-ID: <3551429D-4143-4123-ABA8-FF1C5DD75271@mac.com> On 22 Mar, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Riba wrote: > Hello all, > > As some of you may know, a while ago I bought a DVI to ADC adapter > on ebay. However the USPS managed to screw it up and they delivered > it to god knows whom, but it certainly wasn't me. Of course it > wasn't insured. > > Anyway, I have to buy another one, but while looking for another > one I spotted that there are two Apple part numbers for DVI to ADC > adapters. One is M8661LL/B, and the other is A1006. On the photos > they look the same and I haven't noticed any differences between > them. Can someone shed some light on this? If you bought the adapter in order to use it with an Apple ADC display monitor, you may have some connection problems. I bought such an adapter from the San Francisco Apple Store last year after a "Mac Genius" there told me that it would allow me to use my old 17" ADC display with my G5. WRONG, wrong, and wrong again, Buckwheat!! The device would not work with the ADC display because it could not provide the electrical power connection to the display as the original connector did from a G4 ADC socket. Ultimately, I had to take the adapter back to Apple to get a refund of my money. I don't have any of the paperwork that came with the adapter any more and I don't remember which model adapter I had tried. Just a warning that there may be problems with your purchase. From riba at ml1.net Sat Apr 7 01:41:06 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Sat Apr 7 01:41:16 2007 Subject: [Cube] DVI to ADC adapters question... In-Reply-To: <3551429D-4143-4123-ABA8-FF1C5DD75271@mac.com> References: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> <3551429D-4143-4123-ABA8-FF1C5DD75271@mac.com> Message-ID: <8455007B-5895-47AE-8A0E-A296222CB12D@ml1.net> On Apr 6, 2007, at 19:53, Ronald Steinke wrote: > On 22 Mar, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Riba wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> As some of you may know, a while ago I bought a DVI to ADC adapter >> on ebay. However the USPS managed to screw it up and they >> delivered it to god knows whom, but it certainly wasn't me. Of >> course it wasn't insured. >> >> Anyway, I have to buy another one, but while looking for another >> one I spotted that there are two Apple part numbers for DVI to ADC >> adapters. One is M8661LL/B, and the other is A1006. On the photos >> they look the same and I haven't noticed any differences between >> them. Can someone shed some light on this? > > If you bought the adapter in order to use it with an Apple ADC > display monitor, you may have some connection problems. > > I bought such an adapter from the San Francisco Apple Store last > year after a "Mac Genius" there told me that it would allow me to > use my old 17" ADC display with my G5. WRONG, wrong, and wrong > again, Buckwheat!! I'm assuming that you had a 17" CRT ADC display, not an LCD one? (that's a lot of abbreviations here :)) From riba at ml1.net Sat Apr 7 01:41:31 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Sat Apr 7 01:41:37 2007 Subject: [Cube] DVI to ADC adapters question... In-Reply-To: References: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> Message-ID: <401DD3CD-9712-4CF8-AF04-A8A4F0EC0F34@ml1.net> On Apr 6, 2007, at 17:51, Jason Myers wrote: > Riba - > > The DVIator will power the translucent 23 inch - I have it hooked > up to my MBP via DVIator as we speak. There was an issue with the > monitor flickering every time I hooked a USB device up to my > computer, but I disconnected the USB from the DVIator and haven't > had any problems since. Thanks for the info! From riba at ml1.net Sat Apr 7 01:42:43 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Sat Apr 7 01:42:49 2007 Subject: [Cube] DVI to ADC adapters question... In-Reply-To: <1DBA37E9-BD6B-4308-8377-0A151A97E864@mac.com> References: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> <1DBA37E9-BD6B-4308-8377-0A151A97E864@mac.com> Message-ID: <3F92BA63-5402-4DDD-B3C8-7414ED7C1009@ml1.net> On Apr 6, 2007, at 19:46, George Pepper wrote: > I can confirm that the A1006 will run an ADC 23" Cinema HD > Display. I use it now to run mine from a Mini. The monitor's > power button is no longer functional, of course, but the USB ports > are. > > Does the DVIator have a USB connector for the monitor? That would > seem to be the most important question there. Yes it does, functionally it should be the same as Apple's converter. > The only thing I can think about the different numbers is that the > M8661LL/B may be a newer model with some improved features. Mine > is several years old, and there was only one model when I got mine. Thanks, I believe you are right. From dads at tds.net Mon Apr 16 14:06:39 2007 From: dads at tds.net (Erik Ness) Date: Mon Apr 16 14:06:56 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube longevity... In-Reply-To: <3F92BA63-5402-4DDD-B3C8-7414ED7C1009@ml1.net> References: <49D32E5E-A275-4CEB-9501-88DCCEDD18A3@ml1.net> <1DBA37E9-BD6B-4308-8377-0A151A97E864@mac.com> <3F92BA63-5402-4DDD-B3C8-7414ED7C1009@ml1.net> Message-ID: Hey all, I'm still happily running a cube with the original processor & graphic card, but new hard drive and optical. I'm trying to get a general sense of cube longevity because my big monitor just died and I'm caught in the classic upgrade-or-ride-it-out dilemma. Do I get a tide-me-over monitor, or upgrade across the board (I'd probably go iMac in the largest screen configuration). I use mine daily, powering down on most nights. The only significant problem I ever had was the drives dying. Otherwise it seems like it just might run forever. Any comments appreciated, but mostly I'm looking for tales about longevity -- or lack there-of. Cheers, Erik -- ###################################################### Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com Winner, 2006 Gold for environmental features International Regional Magazine Association http://erikness.com/Stories/wind.html From darknight113 at excite.com Mon Apr 16 14:42:12 2007 From: darknight113 at excite.com (James Whitfield) Date: Mon Apr 16 14:42:29 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube longevity... Message-ID: <20070416214212.B97B137426@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> Hey Erik I've had my cube since 3/2000. I haven't had any problems what soever. I maxed out my memory to 1GB and I upgraded my processor and video card because I like to play games on my Mac. Also, I've updated my harddrive. I'm a graphic designer and I live and die with my Mac. But these are really a good machine. Right now I'm in the process of getting the Macbook Pro 17" and I'm going to turn my cube into a server. But I do everything on my cube from burning dvd's to actual work. --- On Mon 04/16, Erik Ness < dads@tds.net > wrote: From: Erik Ness [mailto: dads@tds.net] To: cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:06:39 -0500 Subject: [Cube] Cube longevity... Hey all,

I'm still happily running a cube with the original processor &
graphic card, but new hard drive and optical. I'm trying to get a
general sense of cube longevity because my big monitor just died and
I'm caught in the classic upgrade-or-ride-it-out dilemma. Do I get a
tide-me-over monitor, or upgrade across the board (I'd probably go
iMac in the largest screen configuration). I use mine daily, powering
down on most nights. The only significant problem I ever had was the
drives dying. Otherwise it seems like it just might run forever.

Any comments appreciated, but mostly I'm looking for tales about
longevity -- or lack there-of.

Cheers,

Erik

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Do I get a > tide-me-over monitor, or upgrade across the board > (I'd probably go > iMac in the largest screen configuration). I use > mine daily, powering > down on most nights. The only significant problem I > ever had was the > drives dying. Otherwise it seems like it just might > run forever. > > Any comments appreciated, but mostly I'm looking for > tales about > longevity -- or lack there-of. > > Cheers, > > Erik > > -- > ###################################################### > Erik Ness 608-242-7604 > http://erikness.com > > Winner, 2006 Gold for environmental features > International Regional Magazine Association > http://erikness.com/Stories/wind.html > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dads at tds.net Mon Apr 16 14:51:09 2007 From: dads at tds.net (Erik Ness) Date: Mon Apr 16 14:55:35 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube longevity... In-Reply-To: <20070416214212.B97B137426@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> References: <20070416214212.B97B137426@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> Message-ID: At 5:42 PM -0400 4/16/07, James Whitfield wrote: >But these are really a good machine. Amen to that. Cheers, Erik -- ###################################################### Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com New & evolving site design; all feedback appreciated... From dads at tds.net Mon Apr 16 14:55:15 2007 From: dads at tds.net (Erik Ness) Date: Mon Apr 16 14:55:38 2007 Subject: [Cube] Monitors... Message-ID: It occurs to me that if I get a tide-me-over monitor I really better be sure the stock video card can handle it. Can you tell that by looking at specs? Refresh rate? Resolution? And anybody running a Viewsonic Q19wb Cheers, Erik -- ###################################################### Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com New & evolving site design; all feedback appreciated... From silvertrailer at yahoo.com Mon Apr 16 15:05:13 2007 From: silvertrailer at yahoo.com (m m) Date: Mon Apr 16 15:05:25 2007 Subject: [Cube] Monitors... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87079.96948.qm@web38803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My cube runs an Envison 17" LCD. --- Erik Ness wrote: > It occurs to me that if I get a tide-me-over monitor > I really better > be sure the stock video card can handle it. Can you > tell that by > looking at specs? Refresh rate? Resolution? > > And anybody running a Viewsonic Q19wb > > > Cheers, > > Erik > -- > ###################################################### > Erik Ness 608-242-7604 > http://erikness.com > > New & evolving site design; all feedback > appreciated... > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ronsteinke at mac.com Mon Apr 16 16:33:29 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Mon Apr 16 16:33:48 2007 Subject: [Cube] Monitors... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7496431.1176766409576.JavaMail.ronsteinke@mac.com> On Monday, April 16, 2007, at 02:55PM, Erik Ness wrote: >It occurs to me that if I get a tide-me-over monitor I really better >be sure the stock video card can handle it. Can you tell that by >looking at specs? Refresh rate? Resolution? > As long as you only use a 17" or smaller monitor, I do not think you will have any problem with synchronization. The refresh rate is not dependent on the monitor. You can always change the resolution to give you the view that you want, the available settings for the monitor in use will display in the control panel window. From dads at tds.net Mon Apr 16 18:42:49 2007 From: dads at tds.net (Erik Ness) Date: Mon Apr 16 18:43:39 2007 Subject: [Cube] Monitors... In-Reply-To: <7496431.1176766409576.JavaMail.ronsteinke@mac.com> References: <7496431.1176766409576.JavaMail.ronsteinke@mac.com> Message-ID: At 4:33 PM -0700 4/16/07, Ronald Steinke wrote: >As long as you only use a 17" or smaller monitor, I do not think you >will have any problem with synchronization. Oh no -- I can't go 19? Cheers, Erik -- ###################################################### Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com New & evolving site design; all feedback appreciated... From jmyers0341 at gmail.com Mon Apr 16 19:09:33 2007 From: jmyers0341 at gmail.com (Jason Myers) Date: Mon Apr 16 19:09:38 2007 Subject: [Cube] Monitors... In-Reply-To: References: <7496431.1176766409576.JavaMail.ronsteinke@mac.com> Message-ID: If I am not mistaken, I thought that the stock graphics card would support up to the 20 inch ADC monitor... 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ditto to the previous comments - bought my cube November of '01, and have used it steadily ever since - it's been a great personal machine - only upgraded the hard-drive (needed more space) - everything else is stock, and each update of OS X has been handled ably by the cube... -Andy on 4/16/07 2:51 PM, Erik Ness at dads@tds.net wrote: > At 5:42 PM -0400 4/16/07, James Whitfield wrote: >> But these are really a good machine. > > Amen to that. > > Cheers, > > Erik From lizajbear at yahoo.com Mon Apr 16 22:24:17 2007 From: lizajbear at yahoo.com (liza bear) Date: Mon Apr 16 22:24:23 2007 Subject: [Cube] Re: Cube Digest, Vol 31, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <20070417043015.11B3ABDE361@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <789757.7484.qm@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Erik I'm running Cube since Dec 1999 with original 450MHZ processor and video card but new hard drive forced on me by Tekserv and memory upgrade to max. I would like to upgrade processor to 1Gb and get new video card. Any suggestions for good price quotes? thank you Liza http://squaringoff.blip.tv __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From luis_meleiro at cilsp.com Tue Apr 17 02:31:31 2007 From: luis_meleiro at cilsp.com (Luis Meleiro) Date: Tue Apr 17 02:32:41 2007 Subject: [Cube] Re: Cube Digest, Vol 31, Issue 2 Message-ID: Running mine since 2000 and upgraded to a PowerLogix PowerForce 7447A DP 1.7GHz (with VRM bypass) since 2005. Added a Zalman ZM-OP1 (modified to operate at 7V generating less noise). RAM maxed to 1GB (3x512MB) was my first upgrade. NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 32MB was the next and recently I bought a Panasonic DL SuperDrive and a Seagate Barracuda V 7200 RPM 120GB [8MB cache] HD. An Apple 17 ADC LCD is connected there since 2003 and if only Cubes could have USB2... LM >>>lizajbear@yahoo.com 04/17/07 6:24 am >>> Hi Erik I'm running Cube since Dec 1999 with original 450MHZ processor and video card but new hard drive forced on me by Tekserv and memory upgrade to max. I would like to upgrade processor to 1Gb and get new video card. Any suggestions for good price quotes? thank you Liza -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070417/f007c83b/attachment.html From jhlincoln at mac.com Tue Apr 17 05:56:26 2007 From: jhlincoln at mac.com (John H. Lincoln) Date: Tue Apr 17 05:57:02 2007 Subject: [Cube] Monitors... Message-ID: Here's how I've managed to max out my own, 6-year-old Cube..... 1) CPU: PowerLogix 1.5 Gigahertz (GHz) Dual Processor PowerForce G4 7447A processor upgrade card 2) Memory: 1.5 GB RAM 3) Video Card: ATI Radeon 7500 4) Display: 23" Apple Cinema Display (Acrylic; 1920 x 1200). To keep this large display powered, without taxing the Cube's Voltage Regulator Card, I found a work-around. To the Cube's ADC connector, I have attached a ADC-to-DVI adapter (which has its own power supply). And to this, I have connected a DVI-to-ADC adapter. The 23-inch Cinema Display connects to this. 5) Hard Drive No internal Hard Drive. 6) FireWire Bus -- External Hard Drive: 400 GB Seagate Barracuda. This Ultra ATA/100 drive is partitioned into three volumes: the boot volume is 127 GB in size; plus two data volumes. This is consistent with Apple's guidelines on using large ATA Drives . The result is a Cube which is big, quiet, fast, and -- most important -- cool-running. ============================ John H. Lincoln Digital Media Designer Fornalutx, Mallorca, Spain ============================ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sorry if this seems to be a foolish question (but it is not mentioned)... LM >>>jhlincoln@mac.com 04/17/07 1:56 pm >>> Here's how I've managed to max out my own, 6-year-old Cube..... The result is a Cube which is big, quiet, fast, and -- most important -- cool-running. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070417/e85ce3f9/attachment.html From andrewaa at comcast.net Tue Apr 17 15:20:48 2007 From: andrewaa at comcast.net (Andrew) Date: Tue Apr 17 15:20:55 2007 Subject: [Cube] Monitors... In-Reply-To: <20070417043014.C4693BDE359@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070417043014.C4693BDE359@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <6cfb3888db8ecbaf1752a15fc53e5e04@comcast.net> On Apr 17, 2007, at 0:30, cube-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > >> As long as you only use a 17" or smaller monitor, I do not think you >> will have any problem with synchronization. > > Oh no -- I can't go 19? I'm using a Dell 2005FPW LCD monitor with my Cube (same display panel as the 20" Apple LCD display). The graphics card is a Radeon 7500 (32 Mb no fan) and I'm running 1680 x 1050 @ 60 Hz. Seems to work connected to either the VGA or the DVI port (I'm using the VGA through a KVM switch). Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? From silvertrailer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 17 17:20:34 2007 From: silvertrailer at yahoo.com (m m) Date: Tue Apr 17 17:20:40 2007 Subject: [Cube] upgrade processor : In-Reply-To: <789757.7484.qm@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <364541.5201.qm@web38815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The best deal i could find was at Other World Computing. OWC --- liza bear wrote: > Hi Erik > > I'm running Cube since Dec 1999 with original 450MHZ > processor and video card but new hard drive forced > on > me by Tekserv and memory > upgrade to max. > > I would like to upgrade processor to 1Gb and get new > video card. > Any suggestions for good price quotes? > > thank you > > Liza > > > http://squaringoff.blip.tv > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kr-johnson at comcast.net Thu Apr 19 11:23:44 2007 From: kr-johnson at comcast.net (Ken Johnson) Date: Thu Apr 19 11:23:50 2007 Subject: [Cube] Thinking about a upgrade References: <0DB93FF0-4BC8-4D59-91C0-19A9CE5105D2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <264B2D74-76A3-4CA5-87DB-75B5EB22CE80@comcast.net> Here's a modest upgrade for the graphics card - my item on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&sspagename=STRK% 3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=150114347187&rd=1&rd=1 Ken From pw at tr3a.co.uk Fri Apr 20 10:44:32 2007 From: pw at tr3a.co.uk (Peter Wigglesworth) Date: Fri Apr 20 10:44:57 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube Message-ID: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> I am a new user of the Cube having been given it as an upgrade to an ancient Power Mac I would like to run a newer version of OS X on it than the 10.1 disc I have that came in the box with it. (10.1 refuses to recognise USB memory cards and plugs when inserted that should shew on the desk top - So I have the old computer connected by ADSL cable and read them thru that - CLUNKY OR WHAT!) Problem... I am in England and the Cube is not connected to the Internet. The only internet connection I have is through a Windaz XP PC thing, which is really useful for e mails. Can any one mail me or point me towards a supplier of a CD containing an operating system 10.3 or better that includes classic which I use for Art and Design software. I have borrowed a genuine disc of OS 10.4 that came with an i book G4 but that refuses to load on the cube - Any suggestions? Believe me it is an absolute desert in the UK for Mac unless you open your wallet a very long way. Thanks for your help in advance PW - London England From darknight113 at excite.com Fri Apr 20 11:23:56 2007 From: darknight113 at excite.com (James Whitfield) Date: Fri Apr 20 11:24:09 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube Message-ID: <20070420182356.5D420373FF@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> You have to get OSX specific to for your computer. Meaning, you have to get a general OSX disk. Apple has changed he way that they issue software after 10.2. Even though you may have OSX for an Imac, it's not going to work on your cube because of how the settings are. So you're going to have to invest $100 for 10.4 --- On Fri 04/20, Peter Wigglesworth < pw@tr3a.co.uk > wrote: From: Peter Wigglesworth [mailto: pw@tr3a.co.uk] To: cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:44:32 +0100 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube I am a new user of the Cube having been given it as an upgrade to an
ancient Power Mac
I would like to run a newer version of OS X on it than the 10.1 disc I
have that came in the box with it.
(10.1 refuses to recognise USB memory cards and plugs when inserted that
should shew on the desk top - So I have the old computer connected by
ADSL cable and read them thru that - CLUNKY OR WHAT!)
Problem... I am in England and the Cube is not connected to the
Internet. The only internet connection I have is through a Windaz XP PC
thing, which is really useful for e mails.

Can any one mail me or point me towards a supplier of a CD containing
an operating system 10.3 or better that includes classic which I use for
Art and Design software.

I have borrowed a genuine disc of OS 10.4 that came with an i book G4
but that refuses to load on the cube - Any suggestions?

Believe me it is an absolute desert in the UK for Mac unless you open
your wallet a very long way.

Thanks for your help in advance

PW - London England

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_______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! From atoa at krak.net Fri Apr 20 14:10:14 2007 From: atoa at krak.net (atoa) Date: Fri Apr 20 14:10:27 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: <20070420182356.5D420373FF@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> References: <20070420182356.5D420373FF@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, James Whitfield wrote: > > You have to get OSX specific to for your computer. Meaning, you have to get a general OSX disk. Apple has changed he way that they issue software after 10.2. Even though you may have OSX for an Imac, it's not going to work on your cube because of how the settings are. So you're going to have to invest $100 for 10.4 > Care to restate your first two sentences so that they make some sense? While you are at it, you might reconsider the rest of your post. > > > > --- On Fri 04/20, Peter Wigglesworth < pw@tr3a.co.uk > wrote: > From: Peter Wigglesworth [mailto: pw@tr3a.co.uk] > To: cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:44:32 +0100 > Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube > > I am a new user of the Cube having been given it as an upgrade to an
ancient Power Mac
I would like to run a newer version of OS X on it than the 10.1 disc I
have that came in the box with it.
(10.1 refuses to recognise USB memory cards and plugs when inserted that
should shew on the desk top - So I have the old computer connected by
ADSL cable and read them thru that - CLUNKY OR WHAT!)
Problem... I am in England and the Cube is not connected to the
Internet. The only internet connection I have is through a Windaz XP PC
thing, which is really useful for e mails.

Can any one mail me or point me towards a supplier of a CD containing
an operating system 10.3 or better that includes classic which I use for
Art and Design software.

I have borrowed a genuine disc of OS 10.4 that came with an i book G4
but that refuses to load on the cube - Any suggestions?

Believe me it is an absolute desert in the UK for Mac unless > > you open
your wallet a very long way.

Thanks for your help in advance

PW - London England

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> > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From phoenix at cybernothing.org Fri Apr 20 14:39:07 2007 From: phoenix at cybernothing.org (phoenix) Date: Fri Apr 20 14:39:11 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: References: <20070420182356.5D420373FF@xprdmailfe14.nwk.excite.com> Message-ID: On 4/20/07, atoa wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2007, James Whitfield wrote: >> >> You have to get OSX specific to for your computer. Meaning, you have to get a >> general OSX disk. Apple has changed he way that they issue software after 10.2. >> Even though you may have OSX for an Imac, it's not going to work on your cube >> because of how the settings are. So you're going to have to invest $100 for 10.4 > > Care to restate your first two sentences so that they make some sense? > While you are at it, you might reconsider the rest of your post. The Tiger install DVD I borrowed from a friend seemed to whip perfect installs on my G4 Cube, my 14" G3 iBook 700 (though my 12" G3 500 lacks a DVD drive, so no joy there) , and my G3 Pismo. Not one hitch at all. cheers, phoenix -- "there's more to life than gears and horsepower not much, admittedly, but you get the point..." -- Road Kill From wfoxjr at earthlink.net Fri Apr 20 16:13:09 2007 From: wfoxjr at earthlink.net (Bill Fox) Date: Fri Apr 20 16:13:19 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> Message-ID: <8F78B194-5CD8-40F7-BF0D-82968878D4CA@earthlink.net> I believe that 10.3 (Panther) was the last Mac OS X that with a Classic disc. You need to buy the full retail version, not borrow a system disc that came with another computer unless it is an identical model. For example, Amazon.com has used Panther discs as does eBay. I am sure there are other resellers of Panther. However, if you have a Mac OS 9.x full install disc, you can use it with 10.4.x Tiger. I am running 10.4.9 and 10.4.9 Server on my Cube with Mac OS X 9.2 running as well. You might also install Classic with 10.1 that you have and use a full retail Mac OS X 10.4.x disc to upgrade to Tiger with Classic. Bill On Apr 20, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Peter Wigglesworth wrote: > I am a new user of the Cube having been given it as an upgrade to > an ancient Power Mac > I would like to run a newer version of OS X on it than the 10.1 > disc I have that came in the box with it. > (10.1 refuses to recognise USB memory cards and plugs when inserted > that should shew on the desk top - So I have the old computer > connected by ADSL cable and read them thru that - CLUNKY OR WHAT!) > Problem... I am in England and the Cube is not connected to the > Internet. The only internet connection I have is through a Windaz > XP PC thing, which is really useful for e mails. > > Can any one mail me or point me towards a supplier of a CD > containing an operating system 10.3 or better that includes > classic which I use for Art and Design software. > > I have borrowed a genuine disc of OS 10.4 that came with an i book > G4 but that refuses to load on the cube - Any suggestions? > > Believe me it is an absolute desert in the UK for Mac unless you > open your wallet a very long way. > > Thanks for your help in advance > > PW - London England From ronsteinke at mac.com Sat Apr 21 01:20:53 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Sat Apr 21 01:23:50 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> Message-ID: <52A92503-B28C-4644-B6AE-BC9B65C7CB3A@mac.com> On 20 Apr, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Peter Wigglesworth wrote: > I am a new user of the Cube having been given it as an upgrade to > an ancient Power Mac > I would like to run a newer version of OS X on it than the 10.1 > disc I have that came in the box with it. > (10.1 refuses to recognise USB memory cards and plugs when inserted > that should shew on the desk top - So I have the old computer > connected by ADSL cable and read them thru that - CLUNKY OR WHAT!) > Problem... I am in England and the Cube is not connected to the > Internet. The only internet connection I have is through a Windaz > XP PC thing, which is really useful for e mails. > > Can any one mail me or point me towards a supplier of a CD > containing an operating system 10.3 or better that includes > classic which I use for Art and Design software. > > I have borrowed a genuine disc of OS 10.4 that came with an i book > G4 but that refuses to load on the cube - Any suggestions? Let us first set things in their proper order. Do not buy OS-10.2 because 10.3 is better. Buy your own copy of OS-10.4 only if you have a DVD player to use for the installation. My reason for advising the purchase of your own installer copy is that you may not be able to borrow your friend's copy quickly when you have a problem and need to fix it NOW. You must have a DVD player connected to or installed in your Cube in order to use any OS 10.4 install DVD. That version OS does not come on a CD. If all you have in the Cube is a CD reader, you are out of luck for installing OS-10.4 without some external help. Another thing that OS-10.4 needs is a lot of RAM, be sure to install over 512Mb in the Cube. You should have lots of RAM installed anyway. It is much cheaper now than it was earlier and there is no longer an excuse for not putting in as much as you need or can afford. If you want to run Classic environment programs (OS-9 or earlier), you must install that OS in your Cube. To get a version of OS-X that comes with a CD to install OS-9, you will have to search for an available older version for sale on eBay or maybe on Craig's List. Again, look for OS-10.3 instead of 10.2!!!! As long as the CDs are generic installers (meaning that the disks are not labeled for any SPECIFIC model Macintosh such as an iMac, PowerBook, or an Intel chip model), you should be getting both the OS- X and OS-9 installer CDs in the packet. Do the OS-X installation first and then do a Clean Install of OS-9 to avoid the installer asking you if you want to erase any existing OS before installing another version. As to the USB devices not being recognized, that may be because of a corrupted OS or possibly a dead USB socket. Have you tested the USB sockets with other devices than your memory cards? You could try connecting a digital camera and see if it is detected by the OS. Is your ISP not compatible with Macs? Is that why you are using the PC for internet connections? If you complete the installation of OS-10.x successfully, you should be able to use the Cube as an internet machine without too much difficulty in configuration. There is a helper program for internet access in the OS-X install that does much of the configuration for you. Welcome to the World of Macintosh Cube owners. From no-spam at punkt-x.de Sat Apr 21 02:57:33 2007 From: no-spam at punkt-x.de (Stefan) Date: Sat Apr 21 02:57:47 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello Peter, I would recommend to search on ebay for a newer OS-X version. You can also buy a Tiger-Edition, that is version 10.4 of the OS. Of importance before installing is the firmware-version of your cube. The last is 4.1.9f1, I believe. Newer OS-X versions are quite better than 10.1, which was only a beginning but no really good version. I can't imagine that there is no Mac-community in Britain. (?) There is http://www.cubeowner.com of which I thought it was in UK. (?) Good luck, Peter Stefan from Germany >I am a new user of the Cube having been given it as an upgrade to an >ancient Power Mac >I would like to run a newer version of OS X on it than the 10.1 disc >I have that came in the box with it. >(10.1 refuses to recognise USB memory cards and plugs when inserted >that should shew on the desk top - So I have the old computer >connected by ADSL cable and read them thru that - CLUNKY OR WHAT!) >Problem... I am in England and the Cube is not connected to the >Internet. The only internet connection I have is through a Windaz XP >PC thing, which is really useful for e mails. > >Can any one mail me or point me towards a supplier of a CD >containing an operating system 10.3 or better that includes classic >which I use for Art and Design software. > >I have borrowed a genuine disc of OS 10.4 that came with an i book >G4 but that refuses to load on the cube - Any suggestions? > >Believe me it is an absolute desert in the UK for Mac unless you >open your wallet a very long way. > >Thanks for your help in advance > >PW - London England From marco.demaria_at at libero.it Sat Apr 21 06:32:43 2007 From: marco.demaria_at at libero.it (Marco Demaria) Date: Sat Apr 21 06:33:26 2007 Subject: [Cube] (no subject) Message-ID: Hi cubeowners, my name is Marco, I've three cubes, two cubes have been upgraded and one is original. Now I know from this site: "http:// www.barefeats.com/rad98pro.html" the ATI Radeon 9800 pro can works fine on g4 cube. OK I know r9800 can't fit in cube.. but I've just modified a cube for this trouble. I'd like to know if and what R9800 model works.. because I've tried a R9800 pro surely working on mac tower quicksilver but it don't work on cube. In accord with barefeats site, R9800 (SKU number 100-435058) work fine on cube. Are there any R9800 (100-435058 model apart) that work on cubes? Thanks, Marco. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2435 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070421/46729364/smime-0001.bin From atoa at krak.net Sat Apr 21 07:44:29 2007 From: atoa at krak.net (atoa) Date: Sat Apr 21 07:44:42 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: <52A92503-B28C-4644-B6AE-BC9B65C7CB3A@mac.com> References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> <52A92503-B28C-4644-B6AE-BC9B65C7CB3A@mac.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, Ronald Steinke wrote: > On 20 Apr, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Peter Wigglesworth wrote: > >> I am a new user of the Cube having been given it as an upgrade to an >> ancient Power Mac >> I would like to run a newer version of OS X on it than the 10.1 disc I have >> that came in the box with it. >> (10.1 refuses to recognise USB memory cards and plugs when inserted that >> should shew on the desk top - So I have the old computer connected by ADSL >> cable and read them thru that - CLUNKY OR WHAT!) >> Problem... I am in England and the Cube is not connected to the Internet. >> The only internet connection I have is through a Windaz XP PC thing, which >> is really useful for e mails. >> >> Can any one mail me or point me towards a supplier of a CD containing an >> operating system 10.3 or better that includes classic which I use for Art >> and Design software. >> >> I have borrowed a genuine disc of OS 10.4 that came with an i book G4 but >> that refuses to load on the cube - Any suggestions? > > Let us first set things in their proper order. > > Do not buy OS-10.2 because 10.3 is better. Buy your own copy of OS-10.4 only > if you have a DVD player to use for the installation. My reason for advising > the purchase of your own installer copy is that you may not be able to borrow > your friend's copy quickly when you have a problem and need to fix it NOW. Not to mention that using a friend's copy is piracy. > > You must have a DVD player connected to or installed in your Cube in order to > use any OS 10.4 install DVD. That version OS does not come on a CD. If all > you have in the Cube is a CD reader, you are out of luck for installing > OS-10.4 without some external help. Tiger is available on 4cds. > > Is your ISP not compatible with Macs? Is that why you are using the PC for > internet connections? That would be a strange ISP. I've never even heard of such a critter. > > If you complete the installation of OS-10.x successfully, you should be able > to use the Cube as an internet machine without too much difficulty in > configuration. There is a helper program for internet access in the OS-X > install that does much of the configuration for you. > > Welcome to the World of Macintosh Cube owners. Ditto. > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From kelawrence at verizon.net Sat Apr 21 08:38:41 2007 From: kelawrence at verizon.net (Kathleen Lawrence) Date: Sat Apr 21 08:39:03 2007 Subject: [Cube] Mac users in the UK-Peter-Cube Message-ID: <519c08ee9febc930967359721655ce8a@verizon.net> For Mac users in the UK try this yahoo group; macosx-support. Also look here: http://www.apple.com/usergroups k From pw at tr3a.co.uk Sat Apr 21 09:29:22 2007 From: pw at tr3a.co.uk (Peter Wigglesworth) Date: Sat Apr 21 09:29:29 2007 Subject: [Cube] Mac users in the UK-Peter-Cube In-Reply-To: <519c08ee9febc930967359721655ce8a@verizon.net> References: <519c08ee9febc930967359721655ce8a@verizon.net> Message-ID: <462A3BE2.10601@tr3a.co.uk> Kathleen Lawrence wrote: > For Mac users in the UK try this yahoo group; macosx-support. > > Also look here: http://www.apple.com/usergroups > > k > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > From pw at tr3a.co.uk Sat Apr 21 09:30:31 2007 From: pw at tr3a.co.uk (Peter Wigglesworth) Date: Sat Apr 21 09:30:37 2007 Subject: [Cube] Mac users in the UK-Peter-Cube In-Reply-To: <519c08ee9febc930967359721655ce8a@verizon.net> References: <519c08ee9febc930967359721655ce8a@verizon.net> Message-ID: <462A3C27.1090208@tr3a.co.uk> Thank you I will take a look Peter W Kathleen Lawrence wrote: > For Mac users in the UK try this yahoo group; macosx-support. > > Also look here: http://www.apple.com/usergroups > > k > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > From ronsteinke at mac.com Sat Apr 21 17:04:45 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Sat Apr 21 17:07:43 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> <52A92503-B28C-4644-B6AE-BC9B65C7CB3A@mac.com> Message-ID: On 21 Apr, 2007, at 7:44 AM, atoa wrote: > Tiger is available on 4cds. Only after buying the DVD set and sending in more money and a request for the CD version. My thought is that you have already bought the 10.4 version and should not have to spend more money to make it work on a non-DVD native machine. It should have been available at the outset in both DVD and CD versions for the customer to choose from. Of course, I also believe that we shouldn't have to pay for an incremental upgrade, ie: 10.4.x to 10.5.x. It should be priced in the same manner as versions 7, 8, and 9 were. This is a case of Apple learning how to get more from its customers, just like MonopolySoft has been doing since Whinedoze v95. From atoa at krak.net Sat Apr 21 17:38:42 2007 From: atoa at krak.net (atoa) Date: Sat Apr 21 17:38:47 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> <52A92503-B28C-4644-B6AE-BC9B65C7CB3A@mac.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, Ronald Steinke wrote: > On 21 Apr, 2007, at 7:44 AM, atoa wrote: > >> Tiger is available on 4cds. > > Only after buying the DVD set and sending in more money and a request for the > CD version. No. You can buy it for $129 at fastmac. And Apple only charged $9.95 for the exchange. > > My thought is that you have already bought the 10.4 version and should not > have to spend more money to make it work on a non-DVD native machine. It > should have been available at the outset in both DVD and CD versions for the > customer to choose from. Of course, I also believe that we shouldn't have to > pay for an incremental upgrade, ie: 10.4.x to 10.5.x. It should be priced in > the same manner as versions 7, 8, and 9 were. > Seems to me that if you bought the DVD version, and knew you didn't have a DVD drive available, it isn't Apple's fault. Apple prices its products in line with what it thinks the market will bear. What's wrang with that? > This is a case of Apple learning how to get more from its customers, just > like MonopolySoft has been doing since Whinedoze v95. Ditto. > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From ronsteinke at mac.com Sat Apr 21 17:51:43 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Sat Apr 21 17:54:44 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> <52A92503-B28C-4644-B6AE-BC9B65C7CB3A@mac.com> Message-ID: On 21 Apr, 2007, at 5:38 PM, atoa wrote: > > No. You can buy it for $129 at fastmac. And Apple only charged > $9.95 for the exchange. > I had never seen that it was available to the general public (store shelves) in CD mode. "Only charging $9.95 for the exchange" is still costing more than the original sale price for the same end product. >> >> My thought is that you have already bought the 10.4 version and >> should not have to spend more money to make it work on a non-DVD >> native machine. It should have been available at the outset in >> both DVD and CD versions for the customer to choose from. Of >> course, I also believe that we shouldn't have to pay for an >> incremental upgrade, ie: 10.4.x to 10.5.x. It should be priced in >> the same manner as versions 7, 8, and 9 were. >> > > Seems to me that if you bought the DVD version, and knew you didn't > have a DVD drive available, it isn't Apple's fault. Apple prices > its products in line with what it thinks the market will bear. > What's wrang with that? > You are missing the gist of the paragraph. Why should we have to pay more to get the same product in a different packaging? I think it should have been made available in both forms from the start. That would have made it available to all users instead of only to those who have DVD readers installed. >> This is a case of Apple learning how to get more from its >> customers, just like MonopolySoft has been doing since Whinedoze v95. > > Ditto. Ditto to what? Is this a rebuttal or just a confirmation of MonopolySoft practices? Apple was doing well by its customers without copying this subtle form of extortionist pricing. From atoa at krak.net Sat Apr 21 18:29:36 2007 From: atoa at krak.net (atoa) Date: Sat Apr 21 18:29:45 2007 Subject: [Cube] Newer OS X for Cube In-Reply-To: References: <4628FC00.60603@tr3a.co.uk> <52A92503-B28C-4644-B6AE-BC9B65C7CB3A@mac.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, Ronald Steinke wrote: > On 21 Apr, 2007, at 5:38 PM, atoa wrote: > >> >> No. You can buy it for $129 at fastmac. And Apple only charged $9.95 for >> the exchange. >> > I had never seen that it was available to the general public (store shelves) > in CD mode. "Only charging $9.95 for the exchange" is still costing more than > the original sale price for the same end product. I'm not sure where you've been recently, but there are a lot of products available to the general public that are not on store shelves. And the end product is NOT the same. If it were, this thread wouldn't have even started. > >>> >>> My thought is that you have already bought the 10.4 version and should not >>> have to spend more money to make it work on a non-DVD native machine. It >>> should have been available at the outset in both DVD and CD versions for >>> the customer to choose from. Of course, I also believe that we shouldn't >>> have to pay for an incremental upgrade, ie: 10.4.x to 10.5.x. It should be >>> priced in the same manner as versions 7, 8, and 9 were. >>> >> >> Seems to me that if you bought the DVD version, and knew you didn't have a >> DVD drive available, it isn't Apple's fault. Apple prices its products in >> line with what it thinks the market will bear. What's wrang with that? >> > You are missing the gist of the paragraph. Why should we have to pay more to > get the same product in a different packaging? I think it should have been > made available in both forms from the start. That would have made it > available to all users instead of only to those who have DVD readers > installed. > I didn't miss anything. It isn't the same product, in different packaging. See above. I suspect that Apple made the sensible decision to distribute Tiger in DVD form because the extra costs involved in marketing the CD version would not have resulted in any significant additional gross, let alone net, revenue. >>> This is a case of Apple learning how to get more from its customers, just >>> like MonopolySoft has been doing since Whinedoze v95. >> >> Ditto. > > Ditto to what? Is this a rebuttal or just a confirmation of MonopolySoft > practices? Apple was doing well by its customers without copying this subtle > form of extortionist pricing. Ditto was short for: Apple prices its products in line with what it thinks the market will bear. What's wrang with that? If you think their pricing is extortionist, you are perfectly free to not buy from them. > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From dads at tds.net Mon Apr 23 06:22:28 2007 From: dads at tds.net (Erik Ness) Date: Mon Apr 23 06:24:09 2007 Subject: [Cube] Anyone using HP monitors? Message-ID: They're awfully pretty looking, but the spec sheet doesn't list any kind of compatibility. Cheers, Erik -- ###################################################### Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com New & evolving site design; all feedback appreciated... From riba at ml1.net Mon Apr 23 06:28:03 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Mon Apr 23 06:28:12 2007 Subject: [Cube] Anyone using HP monitors? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1177334883.28355.1186055117@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:22:28 -0500, "Erik Ness" said: > They're awfully pretty looking, but the spec sheet doesn't list any > kind of compatibility. Compatibility? As long as they have either a VGA or DVI (with a ADC->DVI adapter) inputs they should work just fine. From mreisz at mac.com Tue Apr 24 18:18:00 2007 From: mreisz at mac.com (Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers) Date: Tue Apr 24 18:18:31 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale Message-ID: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> I have an original cube for sale. I have original box and 15 inch LCD monitor. Since I respect this list, I am asking what a fair price is. It is in absolute perfect condition. Located in Portsmouth NH, 1 hour north of Boston. It has had very light use in a jewelry store storing and printing out jewelry photos for appraisals. We use multiple imacs now with intel processors running Parallels desktop and Mac os. Thanks for the advice. Melvin Reisz mreisz@mac.com From jmyers0341 at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 18:36:43 2007 From: jmyers0341 at gmail.com (Jason Myers) Date: Tue Apr 24 18:36:52 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale In-Reply-To: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> References: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> Message-ID: What are you asking? On 4/24/07, Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers wrote: > > I have an original cube for sale. I have original box and 15 inch LCD > monitor. Since I respect this list, I am asking what a fair price is. It is > in absolute perfect condition. Located in Portsmouth NH, 1 hour north of > Boston. It has had very light use in a jewelry store storing and printing > out jewelry photos for appraisals. We use multiple imacs now with intel > processors running Parallels desktop and Mac os. Thanks for the advice. > Melvin Reisz mreisz@mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070424/6e1408c4/attachment.html From arsevic at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 23:49:48 2007 From: arsevic at gmail.com (Victor Arseniev) Date: Tue Apr 24 23:49:53 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale In-Reply-To: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> References: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> Message-ID: ??????! ?????????????? ???????????. ?? ??????? ?? ?????????? ??? ?????????? ????? ?? ?? ???????? ???? ?????????? ? ????????? ???????? ? ???????? ?????? ???????. ??????. 2007/4/25, Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers : > > I have an original cube for sale. I have original box and 15 inch LCD > monitor. Since I respect this list, I am asking what a fair price is. It is > in absolute perfect condition. Located in Portsmouth NH, 1 hour north of > Boston. It has had very light use in a jewelry store storing and printing > out jewelry photos for appraisals. We use multiple imacs now with intel > processors running Parallels desktop and Mac os. Thanks for the advice. > Melvin Reisz mreisz@mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -- Victor E. Arseniev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070425/5f8ccab9/attachment.html From jdeamara at hotmail.com Wed Apr 25 07:23:40 2007 From: jdeamara at hotmail.com (James Deamara) Date: Wed Apr 25 07:23:46 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale In-Reply-To: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi. Depends, are you selling it as a collectable?...or as a used system? I've seen cubes sold as collectables go for more then $400 on ebay. By collectable I mean, unused/slightly used, in a sealed/unsealed original box, with all doc's, orginal keyboard, mouse...etc. Don't ask me why someone would buy a $2000 system and never use it just to sell it at a loss a couple of years later (needless to say they are very rare :) ). If you are intending to sell it as a used system you'll need to be more specific...how much ram does it have, what processor/speed...etc. James. From: Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's Cube." To: cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:18:00 -0700 I have an original cube for sale. I have original box and 15 inch LCD monitor. Since I respect this list, I am asking what a fair price is. It is in absolute perfect condition. Located in Portsmouth NH, 1 hour north of Boston. It has had very light use in a jewelry store storing and printing out jewelry photos for appraisals. We use multiple imacs now with intel processors running Parallels desktop and Mac os. Thanks for the advice. Melvin Reisz mreisz@mac.com _______________________________________________ Cube mailing list Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 _________________________________________________________________ Don’t quit your job – Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144 From arsevic at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 07:36:09 2007 From: arsevic at gmail.com (Victor Arseniev) Date: Wed Apr 25 07:36:13 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale In-Reply-To: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> References: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> Message-ID: Greetings! Has interested the offer. In how many you estimate your computer? You could send a photo of a computer both the detailed description and serial number? Thanks. Victor. 2007/4/25, Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers : > > I have an original cube for sale. I have original box and 15 inch LCD > monitor. Since I respect this list, I am asking what a fair price is. It is > in absolute perfect condition. Located in Portsmouth NH, 1 hour north of > Boston. It has had very light use in a jewelry store storing and printing > out jewelry photos for appraisals. We use multiple imacs now with intel > processors running Parallels desktop and Mac os. Thanks for the advice. > Melvin Reisz mreisz@mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -- Victor E. Arseniev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070425/9131423b/attachment.html From macstonelson at yahoo.com Sat Apr 28 21:08:41 2007 From: macstonelson at yahoo.com (Da Pen) Date: Sat Apr 28 21:08:51 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale In-Reply-To: <35446B0C-0112-1000-DE8A-16A763DCA3F8-Webmail-10011@mac.com> Message-ID: <915498.50833.qm@web32010.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello. Did you come to a conclusion about what your asking price would be? Have you already sold your Cube? I noticed a question about the specs. If not sold, what are the specs and do you have OS software with disks, etc...? Thanks. Dave --- Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers wrote: > I have an original cube for sale. I have original > box and 15 inch LCD monitor. Since I respect this > list, I am asking what a fair price is. It is in > absolute perfect condition. Located in Portsmouth > NH, 1 hour north of Boston. It has had very light > use in a jewelry store storing and printing out > jewelry photos for appraisals. We use multiple imacs > now with intel processors running Parallels desktop > and Mac os. Thanks for the advice. Melvin Reisz > mreisz@mac.com > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ljgemail2000-teacher at yahoo.com Sun Apr 29 09:35:01 2007 From: ljgemail2000-teacher at yahoo.com (Lucinda Lai) Date: Sun Apr 29 09:35:12 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube for sale In-Reply-To: <915498.50833.qm@web32010.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <915430.28319.qm@web82309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Dave: Thank you for the interest in the cube. I have someone coming by today to pick it up . I have another person on a waiting list if the deal falls through. Thanks again, Lucinda --- Da Pen wrote: > Hello. > > Did you come to a conclusion about what your asking > price would be? Have you already sold your Cube? I > noticed a question about the specs. If not sold, > what > are the specs and do you have OS software with > disks, > etc...? > > Thanks. Dave > > --- Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers > > wrote: > > > I have an original cube for sale. I have original > > box and 15 inch LCD monitor. Since I respect this > > list, I am asking what a fair price is. It is in > > absolute perfect condition. Located in Portsmouth > > NH, 1 hour north of Boston. It has had very light > > use in a jewelry store storing and printing out > > jewelry photos for appraisals. We use multiple > imacs > > now with intel processors running Parallels > desktop > > and Mac os. Thanks for the advice. Melvin Reisz > > mreisz@mac.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Cube mailing list > > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! > Vintage > > Mac and random stuff: > > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From nrecob at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 10:01:26 2007 From: nrecob at gmail.com (Nik Recob) Date: Sun Apr 29 10:01:36 2007 Subject: [Cube] Re: I also have a Cube+Studio Display for sale Message-ID: <585886660704291001v3dc20851p74980f2b75ddb17a@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I saw this on today's Cube Digest: 1. Cube for sale (Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers) this on the I also have a Cube+15.1" TFT LCD Sudio Display for sale. How do I insert my item for sale into the Cube Digest? Thank you, Nik Recob Atlanta ================================================== What I'd like to insert: I also have a Cube+15.1" TFT LCD Sudio Display for sale. Both pieces in EXCELLENT condition. Best Offer Takes it! In Atlanta around Emory. For even more info on it. look here: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sys/320120815.html Nik (NRecob@gmail.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070429/a02c86bf/attachment.html From kr-johnson at comcast.net Sun Apr 29 11:11:30 2007 From: kr-johnson at comcast.net (Ken Johnson) Date: Sun Apr 29 11:11:42 2007 Subject: [Cube] Re: I also have a Cube+Studio Display for sale In-Reply-To: <585886660704291001v3dc20851p74980f2b75ddb17a@mail.gmail.com> References: <585886660704291001v3dc20851p74980f2b75ddb17a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0A7131BA-5900-43D3-AF92-398F14BE0B68@comcast.net> How about eBay? or Graig's List? If you list it there, you can put a message here telling people that it's available. Ken On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Nik Recob wrote: > Hello, > > I saw this on today's Cube Digest: > > 1. Cube for sale (Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers) this on the > > I also have a Cube+15.1" TFT LCD Sudio Display for sale. How do I > insert my item for sale into the Cube Digest? > > Thank you, > > Nik Recob > Atlanta > ================================================== > What I'd like to insert: > > I also have a Cube+15.1" TFT LCD Sudio Display for sale. Both > pieces in EXCELLENT condition. Best Offer Takes it! In Atlanta > around Emory. For even more info on it. look here: > > http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sys/320120815.html > > Nik > (NRecob@gmail.com) > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070429/bcf4734b/attachment.html From riba at ml1.net Sun Apr 29 11:28:09 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Sun Apr 29 11:28:34 2007 Subject: [Cube] Re: I also have a Cube+Studio Display for sale In-Reply-To: <585886660704291001v3dc20851p74980f2b75ddb17a@mail.gmail.com> References: <585886660704291001v3dc20851p74980f2b75ddb17a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <765CE398-32CD-40CC-92DA-BD8B913914A6@ml1.net> On Apr 29, 2007, at 19:01, Nik Recob wrote: > Hello, > > I saw this on today's Cube Digest: > > 1. Cube for sale (Melvin Reisz/Summerwind Jewelers) this on the > > I also have a Cube+15.1" TFT LCD Sudio Display for sale. How do I > insert my item for sale into the Cube Digest? You just did. :) From lblodgett at mac.com Sun Apr 29 12:24:44 2007 From: lblodgett at mac.com (Larry Blodgett) Date: Sun Apr 29 12:25:00 2007 Subject: [Cube] Looking for Cube Logic board!!! Message-ID: This my first post on this list and this maybe a very common question that is answered everyday but I will try anyway. I recently discovered that my Firewire does not work and I have tried everything. Reset NVRAM Reset ALL Reset with CUDA Command+Option+P+R for several bongs Rebuild permissions Turn machine off and unplug for an hour I may have forgot a few other things but none of them have worked. It seems the same as when I lost my G3 iBook Firewire port. I am down to looking for a new logic board or trying to replace the firewire input buffers on my existing logic board. As help or comments would be appreciated. Larry