From brittman914 at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 02:20:48 2008 From: brittman914 at gmail.com (Britt Dodd) Date: Wed Jan 16 02:21:07 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card Message-ID: I have 3 2400c's, one of them is a 180, one is a 240, I have heard the later G3 cards really throw this laptop into warp speed. Let me know Britt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080116/fc18443f/attachment.html From mac2400 at satx.rr.com Wed Jan 16 08:31:26 2008 From: mac2400 at satx.rr.com (Ralph Mawyer) Date: Wed Jan 16 08:32:13 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7019ECBF-E794-4752-B492-F38EC7DA31E2@satx.rr.com> Definitely a big jump in performance if you can find one. Subjectively you may find maxing RAM and adding a new fast hard drive adds a big performance increase also for most OS 8.6 era apps. On Jan 16, 2008, at 4:20 AM, Britt Dodd wrote: > I have 3 2400c's, one of them is a 180, one is a 240, I have heard > the later G3 cards really throw this laptop into warp speed. > > Let me know > > > Britt > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist Ralph Mawyer, Jr. San Antonio, Texas PB2400c/G3-320/112MB/80MB HD/Yu-Plan Keyboard mac2400 http://www.sarofax.com/mac2400/index2.html Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin, 1759. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080116/5e924c57/attachment-0001.html From joshkeady at msn.com Wed Jan 16 09:10:24 2008 From: joshkeady at msn.com (Josh Keady) Date: Wed Jan 16 09:10:42 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card In-Reply-To: <7019ECBF-E794-4752-B492-F38EC7DA31E2@satx.rr.com> References: <7019ECBF-E794-4752-B492-F38EC7DA31E2@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I would say RAM + HD + processor is the triple threat with these machines (well, any computer, really, but those are the only real upgrades you can do to a 2400). I wouldn't try running OS X, and there are still some things that crawl -mainly due to the slow bus and ATA controller speeds-, but they cook along rather impressively with the right hardware and software combo. Josh On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Ralph Mawyer wrote: > Definitely a big jump in performance if you can find one. > Subjectively you may find maxing RAM and adding a new fast hard > drive adds a big performance increase also for most OS 8.6 era apps. > From river96b at yahoo.com Wed Jan 16 09:25:19 2008 From: river96b at yahoo.com (daniel brunk) Date: Wed Jan 16 09:25:30 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card Message-ID: <669575.84280.qm@web56701.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Currently there is a 320 MHz G3 processor on ebay, but it's heinously expensive. There is also a 240 603e card by the same seller. (For the record, I am not associated with this seller in any way, just providing information.) I have a 320 MHz card in my Comet and it's fairly zippy. I bought it with a 240 G3 and later upgraded to the 320 after the 240 failed, so I'm not sure how it compares to the original 603e processor. I'm running 9.2.2. It may have been the same seller, but last week there was a killer 2400c on ebay with 112 MB of RAM, wireless, yu-plan keyboard. and either a 320 or 400 G3 card. Only thing it lacked was an upgraded hard drive (it still had the original 1.3 GB drive) and it made no mention of being cardbus-enabled. It was a total steal with a buy-it--now of $250. It was a paypal-only auction, and I don't have paypal, or I would have definitely snatched it up... ebay sites: 320 G3 card ($228): http://tinyurl.com/398p24 240 603e card ($98): http://tinyurl.com/2mewhs ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080116/f04ad2cf/attachment.html From johnchristopherwright at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 11:01:47 2008 From: johnchristopherwright at gmail.com (Chris Wright) Date: Wed Jan 16 11:02:04 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40f184c20801161101y12cc18c2p21c9fe9cecc928c6@mail.gmail.com> putting a 20Gb drive in mine seemed to speed it up a little bit by itself, i'm guessing hard drive access time was reduced by a more modern era hard drive... On Jan 16, 2008 5:20 AM, Britt Dodd wrote: > I have 3 2400c's, one of them is a 180, one is a 240, I have heard the > later G3 cards really throw this laptop into warp speed. > > Let me know > > > Britt > > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > -- here's where I should sign... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080116/6b178226/attachment.html From brittman914 at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 11:07:09 2008 From: brittman914 at gmail.com (Britt Dodd) Date: Wed Jan 16 11:07:22 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card In-Reply-To: <40f184c20801161101y12cc18c2p21c9fe9cecc928c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <40f184c20801161101y12cc18c2p21c9fe9cecc928c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: So a G3 card shouldnt go for $230? Only reason why I havent bought it already is because I dont know whether or not the cache works. Which is what's wrong with y 240 G3 card. On Jan 16, 2008 2:01 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > putting a 20Gb drive in mine seemed to speed it up a little bit by itself, > i'm guessing hard drive access time was reduced by a more modern era hard > drive... > > On Jan 16, 2008 5:20 AM, Britt Dodd < brittman914@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have 3 2400c's, one of them is a 180, one is a 240, I have heard the > > later G3 cards really throw this laptop into warp speed. > > > > Let me know > > > > > > Britt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > DuoList mailing list > > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > > > > > > -- > here's where I should sign... > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080116/928cb0aa/attachment.html From river96b at yahoo.com Wed Jan 16 12:32:13 2008 From: river96b at yahoo.com (daniel brunk) Date: Wed Jan 16 12:32:23 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card Message-ID: <673687.50422.qm@web56703.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Actually, the 320 and 400 cards tend to be rather expensive; not only are they faster than their 240 G3 comrades, but they also run cooler. But usually you'll find it more cost effective to find a 2400c with the G3 already installed and buy the whole package. The cards by themselves tend to be pretty expensive when listed by themselves. Depends on how much you're looking to spend... If you do end up getting it, considering that I have that same card, I'm almost certain that I have the appropriate driver to activate the L2. Right now it's in a room that I can't get to because of building construction for a few days, but I'd be happy to email it to you. I can't promise that I have it, but I seem to recall that I do. If not, I'm sure other people on here have the same card as well... ----- Original Message ---- From: Britt Dodd So a G3 card shouldnt go for $230? Only reason why I havent bought it already is because I dont know whether or not the cache works. Which is what's wrong with y 240 G3 card. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080116/f58638ec/attachment.html From gionpeters at comcast.net Wed Jan 16 17:05:16 2008 From: gionpeters at comcast.net (Tom and Lisa Peters) Date: Thu Jan 17 03:02:03 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card In-Reply-To: References: <40f184c20801161101y12cc18c2p21c9fe9cecc928c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >So a G3 card shouldnt go for $230? > >Only reason why I havent bought it already is because I dont know >whether or not the cache works. > >Which is what's wrong with y 240 G3 card. Daystar technology might be able to fix a set of bad cache chips. Tom From brittman914 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 10:20:55 2008 From: brittman914 at gmail.com (Britt Dodd) Date: Thu Jan 17 10:21:07 2008 Subject: [DuoList] WTB: 2400c G3 Upgrade Card In-Reply-To: References: <40f184c20801161101y12cc18c2p21c9fe9cecc928c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Of a competitor card? I think mine was a NuPower or something....I cant remember I'd like one good G3 powerbook. My 1400 is a G3/400, its just not cutting it with 24MB ram. On Jan 16, 2008 8:05 PM, Tom and Lisa Peters wrote: > >So a G3 card shouldnt go for $230? > > > >Only reason why I havent bought it already is because I dont know > >whether or not the cache works. > > > >Which is what's wrong with y 240 G3 card. > > Daystar technology might be able to fix a set of bad cache chips. > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is this just an interesting item for historical reasons now? I once had one of these many years ago when I worked in Barrow and liked it. It replaced a Duo 2300c with two slot loading monitors. I did like that set up for moving things from work to home and still having a laptop. The 2400c was a favorite for size and weight while traveling. I now run a 12 inch Powerbook but just did not want to see this 2400c go to surplus and scrapping. Any thoughts welcome. Paul Ongtooguk www.alaskool.org www.akhistorycourse.org afpo@uaa.alaska.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1213 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080117/c70dc0eb/attachment.bin From brittman914 at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 00:56:47 2008 From: brittman914 at gmail.com (Britt Dodd) Date: Fri Jan 18 00:56:57 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? In-Reply-To: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> References: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> Message-ID: It means you have something that is worth at least $200. I just paid more than that, just for the card. Congrats! On Jan 18, 2008 3:03 AM, Paul Ongtooguk wrote: > I just ran into a 2400c that was going to be scrapped here in > Anchorage. It has three batteries but no adapter. One battery still > had a bit of power - enough to turn it on. The 2400c screen is in > perfect shape, It shows 80 MB of memory and Power PC 320MHz... now if > I only knew more about what this all means.... > No cards came with it. No floppy drive. No optical drive external. > It does show in the devices it once had an Epson printer but that is no > longer there. > It is in great shape. > Found this list. Any advice about an adapter, how would a person > connect this to the net? What kind of harddrive could it take? Is > this just an interesting item for historical reasons now? I once had > one of these many years ago when I worked in Barrow and liked it. It > replaced a Duo 2300c with two slot loading monitors. I did like that > set up for moving things from work to home and still having a laptop. > > The 2400c was a favorite for size and weight while traveling. > > I now run a 12 inch Powerbook but just did not want to see this 2400c > go to surplus and scrapping. > Any thoughts welcome. > > Paul Ongtooguk > > www.alaskool.org > www.akhistorycourse.org > afpo@uaa.alaska.edu > > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080118/e66724ff/attachment.html From river96b at yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 06:11:40 2008 From: river96b at yahoo.com (daniel brunk) Date: Fri Jan 18 06:11:55 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? Message-ID: <150537.47423.qm@web56709.mail.re3.yahoo.com> The great news is that it's pretty easy to get your windfall 2400c up and running and surfing the net. For power, I would go directly to ebay and do a search for 2400c. The same power supply that works for some ibooks/powerbooks will also work for the 2400c, so they're pretty easy and inexpensive to find. It's also not uncommon to find an actual 2400c power supply on ebay as well. Going wireless is also pretty easy. I use a Dell Orinoco card in mine. One is on ebay now for about $38 shipped: http://tinyurl.com/2cdzdp To configure it, I recommend this most excellent site which guides you through step by step on how to install the software and configuring your Comet for wireless: http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400.html If you score this card from either ebay or elsewhere and it doesn't come with the install file, I could email it to anyone who needs it. This site also lists some other cards that will work as well. What size hard drive do you have in it now? I'm pretty sure that any 9.5mm 2.5" IDE/ATA drive will work. I have a 40 GB drive in mine, and they can be found rather cheaply. Some on this list have 80 GB or more. It's kind of funny that my 2400c has a bigger hard drive than my ibook. If you're going to install it yourself, though, be prepared to dedicate a good chunk of time and come up with a good way not to lose all those tiny screws of different sizes... Good luck and congratulations on your find! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080118/af3508e2/attachment.html From mac2400 at satx.rr.com Fri Jan 18 07:48:32 2008 From: mac2400 at satx.rr.com (Ralph Mawyer) Date: Fri Jan 18 07:48:44 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? In-Reply-To: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> References: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> Message-ID: <2B0870F3-12A3-4D14-BEA1-7943B9DB91B9@satx.rr.com> On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:03 AM, Paul Ongtooguk wrote: > I just ran into a 2400c that was going to be scrapped here in > Anchorage. Paul, nice catch. The G3/320 processor is the real find in your 2400. Lots of info on the 2400 on the old mac2400 page, link below. OS 8.6 is probably the most efficient and complete OS to run on it, but many of us run 9.1 also as it allows wireless support with the cards previously mentioned. At a minimum get a Ethernet PC card for a hard connect to the Net and you'll be in great shape. My guess is the HD is already upgraded since the processor was done and it wasn't cheap at the time.... $700-1200 new, just for the G3. Lots of knowledge on this list from old-timers and folks just discovering the 2400, so just ask. Ralph Mawyer, Jr. San Antonio, Texas PB2400c/G3-320/112MB/80MB HD/Yu-Plan Keyboard mac2400 http://www.sarofax.com/mac2400/index2.html Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin, 1759. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080118/d459cda1/attachment.html From johnchristopherwright at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 08:08:05 2008 From: johnchristopherwright at gmail.com (Chris Wright) Date: Fri Jan 18 08:08:27 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? In-Reply-To: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> References: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> Message-ID: <40f184c20801180808s40656abdhed571ae5e724ec3c@mail.gmail.com> congrats on the find, it is costing you anything to aquire? or was this someone else's trash that you happened upon? I use an orinoco silver wireless (802.11b) card in my 2400c and I have a wired ethernet card that gets some use still... I use mine to browse web pages from the couch, or in the kitchen while trying new recipies, and also as a VNC console to manage other desktops, laptops and servers around the house. (and I listen to itunes on it of course) it isn't a speed demon, but then i don't expect it to be... but it does just work... -- here's where I should sign... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080118/4910351d/attachment.html From mariner at mts.net Fri Jan 18 09:22:00 2008 From: mariner at mts.net (mariner@mts.net) Date: Fri Jan 18 09:22:16 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? Message-ID: <672v3o$6ofd0b@wnpgmb02-c600c.mts.net> Not to hi-jack the thread, but are there any 802 "g" cards that are known to work on the 2400? And the 320mhz 2400 is an absolutely awesome find! I have 400mhz Interware card in mine, and I always tell people to keep an eye on ebay, cause I got it there for around $175, IIRC!!! It can happen! Andy > > From: Ralph Mawyer > Date: 2008/01/18 Fri AM 09:48:32 CST > To: "A place to discuss Apple's sub-portable computers." > Subject: Re: [DuoList] power adaptor? > > > On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:03 AM, Paul Ongtooguk wrote: > > > I just ran into a 2400c that was going to be scrapped here in > > Anchorage. > > Paul, nice catch. The G3/320 processor is the real find in your 2400. > Lots of info on the 2400 on the old mac2400 page, link below. > > OS 8.6 is probably the most efficient and complete OS to run on it, > but many of us run 9.1 also as it allows wireless support with the > cards previously mentioned. > > At a minimum get a Ethernet PC card for a hard connect to the Net and > you'll be in great shape. My guess is the HD is already upgraded > since the processor was done and it wasn't cheap at the time.... > $700-1200 new, just for the G3. > > Lots of knowledge on this list from old-timers and folks just > discovering the 2400, so just ask. > > > Ralph Mawyer, Jr. > San Antonio, Texas > > PB2400c/G3-320/112MB/80MB HD/Yu-Plan Keyboard > mac2400 http://www.sarofax.com/mac2400/index2.html > Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin, 1759. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ DuoList mailing list DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist From sirksd at cox.net Fri Jan 18 09:56:26 2008 From: sirksd at cox.net (Dan Sirks) Date: Fri Jan 18 09:56:36 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? In-Reply-To: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> References: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> Message-ID: If you are interested in selling this machine, I would like to have it just to learn about. I have never had a 2400 and I would love to see what everyone was talking about. Give me a price if you are interested. I usually make over these old machines for retirees who want them for email and light internet. If I choose to give it to someone, it will certainly be appreciated. Thanks, Dan On Jan 18, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Paul Ongtooguk wrote: > I just ran into a 2400c that was going to be scrapped here in > Anchorage. It has three batteries but no adapter. One battery > still had a bit of power - enough to turn it on. The 2400c screen > is in perfect shape, It shows 80 MB of memory and Power PC > 320MHz... now if I only knew more about what this all means.... > No cards came with it. No floppy drive. No optical drive > external. It does show in the devices it once had an Epson printer > but that is no longer there. > It is in great shape. > Found this list. Any advice about an adapter, how would a person > connect this to the net? What kind of harddrive could it take? Is > this just an interesting item for historical reasons now? I once > had one of these many years ago when I worked in Barrow and liked > it. It replaced a Duo 2300c with two slot loading monitors. I did > like that set up for moving things from work to home and still > having a laptop. > > The 2400c was a favorite for size and weight while traveling. > > I now run a 12 inch Powerbook but just did not want to see this > 2400c go to surplus and scrapping. > Any thoughts welcome. > > Paul Ongtooguk > > www.alaskool.org > www.akhistorycourse.org > afpo@uaa.alaska.edu _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist Dan Sirks 1665 From hchung75 at mac.com Fri Jan 18 10:22:55 2008 From: hchung75 at mac.com (Hansel Chung) Date: Fri Jan 18 10:23:30 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? In-Reply-To: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> References: <8604a9805001287190615959358f2fe4@uaa.alaska.edu> Message-ID: If by chance you had one of the 2300c's power adapters, they work too. When I was in college using the 2400c, which replaced my 2300c, I found that the adapters all worked the same. The only difference was that charging was a little slower on the older adapter. -Hansel On Jan 18, 2008, at 12:03 AM, Paul Ongtooguk wrote: > I just ran into a 2400c that was going to be scrapped here in > Anchorage. It has three batteries but no adapter. One battery > still had a bit of power - enough to turn it on. The 2400c screen > is in perfect shape, It shows 80 MB of memory and Power PC > 320MHz... now if I only knew more about what this all means.... > No cards came with it. No floppy drive. No optical drive > external. It does show in the devices it once had an Epson printer > but that is no longer there. > It is in great shape. > Found this list. Any advice about an adapter, how would a person > connect this to the net? What kind of harddrive could it take? Is > this just an interesting item for historical reasons now? I once > had one of these many years ago when I worked in Barrow and liked > it. It replaced a Duo 2300c with two slot loading monitors. I did > like that set up for moving things from work to home and still > having a laptop. > > The 2400c was a favorite for size and weight while traveling. > > I now run a 12 inch Powerbook but just did not want to see this > 2400c go to surplus and scrapping. > Any thoughts welcome. > > Paul Ongtooguk > > www.alaskool.org > www.akhistorycourse.org > afpo@uaa.alaska.edu _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist From hchung75 at mac.com Fri Jan 18 10:24:55 2008 From: hchung75 at mac.com (Hansel Chung) Date: Fri Jan 18 10:25:05 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Duo Dock 2 Message-ID: <607AE31D-B355-4799-B7FB-3C1F17F88860@mac.com> So I have a Duo Dock 2 sitting around. I don't have a Duo to test it with as my last beloved Duo went out to another lister months ago. But I believe it works. If you want it, it's yours for the price of shipping. Let me know, and I'll get the calculation for shipping done for you. -Hansel From johnchristopherwright at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 11:43:37 2008 From: johnchristopherwright at gmail.com (john c. wright) Date: Fri Jan 18 11:43:55 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Duo Dock 2 In-Reply-To: <607AE31D-B355-4799-B7FB-3C1F17F88860@mac.com> References: <607AE31D-B355-4799-B7FB-3C1F17F88860@mac.com> Message-ID: <47910169.7020806@gmail.com> So, I also I have a Duo Dock sitting here with no duo, my only apples are a 2400c and a 520c. anyway, this dock is free plus the cost of shipping to your destination unless you want to pick it up from me in central georgia. let me know thanks! From artworks at victoria.tc.ca Fri Jan 18 14:15:50 2008 From: artworks at victoria.tc.ca (Paul Nelson) Date: Fri Jan 18 14:15:58 2008 Subject: [DuoList] power adaptor? Message-ID: <47912516.69a4.0@victoria.tc.ca> PLEASE, DON'T DO THIS! This is a machine for people who know and appreciate the 2400, not for amateurs. It is a high performance machine, akin to a V12 Jag. Paul Nelson >If you are interested in selling this machine, I would like to have >it just to learn about. I have never had a 2400 and I would love to >see what everyone was talking about. Give me a price if you are >interested. I usually make over these old machines for retirees who >want them for email and light internet. If I choose to give it to >someone, it will certainly be appreciated. Thanks, > >Dan > >On Jan 18, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Paul Ongtooguk wrote: > >> I just ran into a 2400c that was going to be scrapped here in >> Anchorage. It has three batteries but no adapter. One battery >> still had a bit of power - enough to turn it on. The 2400c screen >> is in perfect shape, It shows 80 MB of memory and Power PC >> 320MHz... now if I only knew more about what this all means.... >> No cards came with it. No floppy drive. No optical drive >> external. It does show in the devices it once had an Epson printer >> but that is no longer there. >> It is in great shape. >> Found this list. Any advice about an adapter, how would a person >> connect this to the net? What kind of harddrive could it take? Is >> this just an interesting item for historical reasons now? I once >> had one of these many years ago when I worked in Barrow and liked >> it. It replaced a Duo 2300c with two slot loading monitors. I did >> like that set up for moving things from work to home and still >> having a laptop. >> >> The 2400c was a favorite for size and weight while traveling. >> >> I now run a 12 inch Powerbook but just did not want to see this >> 2400c go to surplus and scrapping. >> Any thoughts welcome. >> >> Paul Ongtooguk >> >> www.alaskool.org >> www.akhistorycourse.org >> afpo@uaa.alaska.edu _______________________________________________ >> DuoList mailing list >> DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > >Dan Sirks >1665 > > > > >_______________________________________________ >DuoList mailing list >DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > > From g_alan_e at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 02:55:48 2008 From: g_alan_e at yahoo.com (Gregg Eshelman) Date: Sat Jan 19 02:55:58 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Duo Dock 2 In-Reply-To: <47910169.7020806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46605.8506.qm@web50308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- "john c. wright" wrote: > So, I also I have a Duo Dock sitting here with no > duo, my only apples > are a 2400c and a 520c. anyway, this dock is free > plus the cost of > shipping to your destination unless you want to pick > it up from me in > central georgia. let me know thanks! I still have a Yeager prototype 280 and an engineering sample 230, with a dock. All boxed up to go but nobody who's said they want them has bothered to send the money! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From the.bates at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 06:04:51 2008 From: the.bates at gmail.com (Marion Bates) Date: Sat Jan 19 06:05:32 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Duo Dock 2 In-Reply-To: <46605.8506.qm@web50308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <47910169.7020806@gmail.com> <46605.8506.qm@web50308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1b22da370801190604o9eaf078of03ac172d1aa812f@mail.gmail.com> Hi Gregg, On Jan 19, 2008 5:55 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > I still have a Yeager prototype 280 and an engineering > sample 230, with a dock. All boxed up to go but nobody > who's said they want them has bothered to send the money! How much are you asking? I must've missed it the first time around... Thanks, -- MB From joseph.sis at us.army.mil Wed Jan 23 23:46:33 2008 From: joseph.sis at us.army.mil (Sis, Joseph C Jr 1LT NG NG NGB) Date: Wed Jan 23 23:46:52 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Powerbook duo 2300c Hard Drive issues Message-ID: I am having trouble upgrading the hard drive in my 2300c duo. I pulled the working IDE drive from my PB2400c (1.3g w/ OS 9.2.2 installed via OS9 Helper) and installed it in the duo. However the duo just comes up with the blinking disk on startup. I tried using Disk Tools via floppy. Interestingly enough I got the message to either eject or initialize the "48.6 mb" drive. I had this message come up at least 50 times in a row until I was finally able to somehow escape into the finder. Disk Tools does not see the internal drive at all. Disk First Aid sees a "Ram" disk but is unable to do anything with the disk - such as repair or verify. Any suggestions? Thanks! From artrice66 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 24 09:56:55 2008 From: artrice66 at yahoo.com (Art Rice) Date: Thu Jan 24 09:57:06 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Powerbook duo 2300c Hard Drive issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <738908.51633.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I researched and found that the 2300c can only run OS 9.1 or lower. That may be your problem. Here is the website I found the information at: http://www.danpalka.net/powerbookduo/profiles/duo2300c.html Art in Silicon Valley "Sis, Joseph C Jr 1LT NG NG NGB" wrote: I am having trouble upgrading the hard drive in my 2300c duo. I pulled the working IDE drive from my PB2400c (1.3g w/ OS 9.2.2 installed via OS9 Helper) and installed it in the duo. However the duo just comes up with the blinking disk on startup. I tried using Disk Tools via floppy. Interestingly enough I got the message to either eject or initialize the "48.6 mb" drive. I had this message come up at least 50 times in a row until I was finally able to somehow escape into the finder. Disk Tools does not see the internal drive at all. Disk First Aid sees a "Ram" disk but is unable to do anything with the disk - such as repair or verify. Any suggestions? Thanks! _______________________________________________ DuoList mailing list DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080124/92debafa/attachment-0001.html From brittman914 at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 10:10:42 2008 From: brittman914 at gmail.com (Britt Dodd) Date: Thu Jan 24 10:10:54 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Powerbook duo 2300c Hard Drive issues In-Reply-To: <738908.51633.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <738908.51633.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What I would recommend doing is getting a Disk Tools image for making a boot floppy (http://download.system7today.com/disktools2.img.hqx) using the Disk Tools flopy to properly partition and format your drive, then installing OS 9.1 (which I found too slow to be usable on a 2300c). Might I suggest 7.6.1 (http://system7today.com)? On Jan 24, 2008 12:56 PM, Art Rice wrote: > I researched and found that the 2300c can only run OS 9.1 or lower. That > may be your problem. Here is the website I found the information at: > http://www.danpalka.net/powerbookduo/profiles/duo2300c.html > > Art in Silicon Valley > > > *"Sis, Joseph C Jr 1LT NG NG NGB" * wrote: > > I am having trouble upgrading the hard drive in my 2300c duo. > > I pulled the working IDE drive from my PB2400c (1.3g w/ OS 9.2.2 > installed via OS9 Helper) and installed it in the duo. However the > duo just comes up with the blinking disk on startup. > > I tried using Disk Tools via floppy. Interestingly enough I got the > message to either eject or initialize the "48.6 mb" drive. I had > this message come up at least 50 times in a row until I was finally > able to somehow escape into the finder. > > Disk Tools does not see the internal drive at all. > > Disk First Aid sees a "Ram" disk but is unable to do anything with > the disk - such as repair or verify. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > > > > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080124/4f6b3e90/attachment.html From joseph.sis at us.army.mil Thu Jan 24 19:54:37 2008 From: joseph.sis at us.army.mil (Sis, Joseph C Jr 1LT NG NG NGB) Date: Thu Jan 24 19:55:02 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Powerbook duo 2300c Hard Drive issues Message-ID: I don't think that is the issue. The "official" maximum OS on my Powerbook 2400c and my PowerMac 6500 are both 9.1. However 9.2.2 installed via OS9 Helper works great on both of those machines. In this case the Duo is not even recognizing the hard drive during startup. I can hear the HD spin up briefly and then immediately the blinking disc icon comes up. I suspect the 2400 may require a unique HD driver, because when I put a new HD in the 2400 it had to be reformatted by the 2400 in order to work. I could reformat this HD in the 2300, but I am reluctant to do so. Also, it may not be possible, as when I use Disk Tools on the floppy - it cannot 'see' the internal 1.13G HD. Thanks, joe To: "A place to discuss Apple's sub-portable computers." Message-ID: <738908.51633.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I researched and found that the 2300c can only run OS 9.1 or lower. That may be your problem. Here is the website I found the information at: http://www.danpalka.net/powerbookduo/profiles/duo2300c.html Art in Silicon Valley From joshkeady at msn.com Thu Jan 24 19:57:32 2008 From: joshkeady at msn.com (Josh Keady) Date: Thu Jan 24 19:57:50 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Powerbook duo 2300c Hard Drive issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There's no chance that you damaged the drive's ribbon cable when you installed it, is there? Josh On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Sis, Joseph C Jr 1LT NG NG NGB wrote: > I don't think that is the issue. The "official" maximum OS on my > Powerbook 2400c and my PowerMac 6500 are both 9.1. However 9.2.2 > installed via OS9 Helper works great on both of those machines. > > In this case the Duo is not even recognizing the hard drive during > startup. I can hear the HD spin up briefly and then immediately the > blinking disc icon comes up. I suspect the 2400 may require a > unique HD driver, because when I put a new HD in the 2400 it had to > be reformatted by the 2400 in order to work. > > I could reformat this HD in the 2300, but I am reluctant to do so. > Also, it may not be possible, as when I use Disk Tools on the floppy > - it cannot 'see' the internal 1.13G HD. > > Thanks, > > joe > > To: "A place to discuss Apple's sub-portable computers." > > Message-ID: <738908.51633.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I researched and found that the 2300c can only run OS 9.1 or lower. > That may be your problem. Here is the website I found the > information at: http://www.danpalka.net/powerbookduo/profiles/duo2300c.html > > Art in Silicon Valley > > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist From cmmac at sonic.net Thu Jan 24 20:50:01 2008 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Thu Jan 24 20:51:41 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Powerbook duo 2300c Hard Drive issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 7:54 PM -0800 1/24/08, Sis, Joseph C Jr 1LT NG NG NGB wrote: >I don't think that is the issue. The "official" maximum OS on my >Powerbook 2400c and my PowerMac 6500 are both 9.1. However 9.2.2 >installed via OS9 Helper works great on both of those machines. > >In this case the Duo is not even recognizing the hard drive during >startup. I can hear the HD spin up briefly and then immediately the >blinking disc icon comes up. I suspect the 2400 may require a >unique HD driver, because when I put a new HD in the 2400 it had to >be reformatted by the 2400 in order to work. If you can boot from a CD try doing so then launch drive setup. I think it includes the ability to update the disk driver. This is NON-destructive, it doesn't hurt your data. I know some Apple disk utility did this long ago (Pre-X) but I'm not positive which. > >I could reformat this HD in the 2300, but I am reluctant to do so. >Also, it may not be possible, as when I use Disk Tools on the floppy >- it cannot 'see' the internal 1.13G HD. That however sounds like a bad HD connection or such. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From weide at amug.org Sat Jan 26 08:00:54 2008 From: weide at amug.org (Marvin Weide) Date: Sat Jan 26 08:02:14 2008 Subject: [DuoList] 2300C serial to usb adapter Message-ID: <102CE021-AED9-4885-8F6D-15E8C46F4971@amug.org> I have 2 2300C computers one of which I want to install ubuntu Linux. I have a duo dock and all the accessories but no usb ports! I have found several usb to serial adapters but no serial to usb. Am I at a dead end? MarvWeide 2- duo 2300C 20th Anniversary Mac G4 1.25 DP mirror tower 2 Mac Minis Mac Pro 2.4 Powerbook G5 2.5 dp Tower Asus eeePC From brittman914 at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 14:07:12 2008 From: brittman914 at gmail.com (Britt Dodd) Date: Sat Jan 26 14:07:27 2008 Subject: [DuoList] 2300C serial to usb adapter In-Reply-To: <102CE021-AED9-4885-8F6D-15E8C46F4971@amug.org> References: <102CE021-AED9-4885-8F6D-15E8C46F4971@amug.org> Message-ID: Two issues: *The 2300c has no PCMCIA slots, so no USB on that what-so-ever (some models, such as the 3400c, 2400c actually have Cardbus enabled slots [or have ability to be converted to use Cardbus] for USB) *I had a difficult time using Ubuntu (actually I had to use Xubuntu [Ubuntu with a lightweight XFCE window manager] on my 366Mhz G3 ibook with 512MB Ram, so I would reconsider putting Ubuntu on a 2300c, with its 100Mhz 603 with very little (or maybe even none) L2 cache. BTW, any machine previous to the G3 (aka OldWorld machines) do not have the ability to run Ubuntu straight out of the box, it requires dual booting MacOS and switching to Linux via a boot manager inside of MacOS. i'm not saying its impossible to install Ubuntu to a 2300c, but it will NOT run well with a 603 (with little L2 cache), Ubuntu needs much more RAM than 56MB, and USB is most certainly out of the question. On Jan 26, 2008 11:00 AM, Marvin Weide wrote: > I have 2 2300C computers one of which I want to install ubuntu Linux. > I have a duo dock and all the accessories but no usb ports! I have > found several usb to serial adapters but no serial to usb. Am I at a > dead end? > > MarvWeide > 2- duo 2300C > 20th Anniversary Mac > G4 1.25 DP mirror tower > 2 Mac Minis > Mac Pro 2.4 Powerbook > G5 2.5 dp Tower > Asus eeePC > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080126/54867e14/attachment.html From mr.noah.wood at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 18:18:36 2008 From: mr.noah.wood at gmail.com (Noah Wood) Date: Mon Jan 28 18:18:54 2008 Subject: [DuoList] PB 2400 SCSI Boot Message-ID: <1721739b0801281818l6775da9bmb9b625f9a7a1e479@mail.gmail.com> I have an external SCSI cd-rom drive which the 2400 refuses to boot from, I have the drive set to "0" and the terminator and everything. I recently wiped the HD clean and want to install I was able to boot from the disk tools floppy via the floppy drive, but no luck on the CD-ROM. Any ideas? -- /\/ () /-\ |-| \/\/ () () |) PowerBook G3 333MHz iMac G5 1.9GHz Custom PC, AMD 2.2GHz Boxbe: MW9518BM From mac2400 at satx.rr.com Mon Jan 28 18:32:30 2008 From: mac2400 at satx.rr.com (Ralph Mawyer) Date: Mon Jan 28 18:33:09 2008 Subject: [DuoList] PB 2400 SCSI Boot In-Reply-To: <1721739b0801281818l6775da9bmb9b625f9a7a1e479@mail.gmail.com> References: <1721739b0801281818l6775da9bmb9b625f9a7a1e479@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I vaguely remember the 2400 will only boot from a CD-ROM drive with the Apple firmware, i.e., an Apple CD drive. That's why I hung on to mine. See if you can boot from a floppy or other drive and then read the CD drive. On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Noah Wood wrote: > I have an external SCSI cd-rom drive which the 2400 refuses to boot > from, I have the drive set to "0" and the terminator and everything. > I recently wiped the HD clean and want to install I was able to boot > from the disk tools floppy via the floppy drive, but no luck on the > CD-ROM. Any ideas? Ralph Mawyer, Jr. San Antonio, Texas PB2400c/G3-320/112MB/80MB HD/Yu-Plan Keyboard mac2400 http://www.sarofax.com/mac2400/index2.html Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site From joseph.sis at us.army.mil Mon Jan 28 22:25:46 2008 From: joseph.sis at us.army.mil (Sis, Joseph C Jr 1LT NG NG NGB) Date: Mon Jan 28 22:26:09 2008 Subject: [DuoList] re: 2300c Hard drive issues Message-ID: <72C6041D-B92B-4520-8C56-E1DDBCAF388F@us.army.mil> Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:57:32 -0800 From: Josh Keady Subject: Re: [DuoList] Powerbook duo 2300c Hard Drive issues To: "A place to discuss Apple's sub-portable computers." Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes There's no chance that you damaged the drive's ribbon cable when you installed it, is there? Josh ---- Thanks Josh, I also got that tip from [kby] off-list. That indeed was probably the source of the problem. I swapped out the cable for a REV B and also removed the jumper pin that was on the drive when it was in the 2400c. That did it and the 2300c recognized the HD. I installed OS 8 and then setup an old Asante EN/SC SCSI Ethernet adaptor - next thing you know I was surfing the web. My next goal is to try and get the 2300c up to OS 9.2.2 like the 2400c. Thanks duo listers! joe From mr.noah.wood at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 03:47:09 2008 From: mr.noah.wood at gmail.com (Noah Wood) Date: Tue Jan 29 03:48:16 2008 Subject: [DuoList] PB 2400 SCSI Boot In-Reply-To: <53516872.867417.1201574017163.JavaMail.prod@qcfs003.boxbe.com> References: <1721739b0801281818l6775da9bmb9b625f9a7a1e479@mail.gmail.com> <53516872.867417.1201574017163.JavaMail.prod@qcfs003.boxbe.com> Message-ID: <1721739b0801290347t202ab282lbac69d07c78dec6d@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 28, 2008 9:32 PM, Ralph Mawyer wrote: > I vaguely remember the 2400 will only boot from a CD-ROM drive with > the Apple firmware, i.e., an Apple CD drive. That's why I hung on to > mine. > > See if you can boot from a floppy or other drive and then read the CD > drive. > Thanks, I had a feeling that might of had something to do with it. I was able to get it to boot, but in an indirect manor. After booting from an old PCMCIA external HD (8.6 on it) I was able to install the cdrom drivers and set startup disk to boot from it. Sometimes that worked and other times it didn't. Now that I installed the OS, however, it's not a big deal to boot. This is my first PB 2400 and it's hard not having the drives build-in. -- /\/ () /-\ |-| \/\/ () () |) PowerBook G3 333MHz iMac G5 1.9GHz Custom PC, AMD 2.2GHz Boxbe: MW9518BM From mr.noah.wood at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 13:06:13 2008 From: mr.noah.wood at gmail.com (Noah Wood) Date: Tue Jan 29 13:06:44 2008 Subject: [DuoList] MPC-100 2400 OS 9 help Message-ID: <1721739b0801291306g3efb45b8h8bbbc2ca15ba742f@mail.gmail.com> I just got my 2400 and have an MPC-100 fast ethernet card with a dongle. It works and shows up on the desktop (OS 9.0), when I double click it work configure AppleTalk Ethernet does not show up as an option. Is there a driver I need or am I missing something? -- /\/ () /-\ |-| \/\/ () () |) PowerBook G3 333MHz iMac G5 1.9GHz Custom PC, AMD 2.2GHz Boxbe: MW9518BM From kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu Tue Jan 29 14:44:35 2008 From: kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu (Kimo B. Yap) Date: Tue Jan 29 15:04:45 2008 Subject: [DuoList] PB 2400 memory Message-ID: <0550D196-8219-4BD1-9173-E6012E0CFD8A@alumni.caltech.edu> FYI, for those with 2400c machines, this place: https://www.yourmacstore.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp? id=156&cat=Memory+for+older+Power+Book seems to have a stash of 96MB RAM modules. I can vouch that the one I got works so far.-kby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080129/bf684236/attachment.html From kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu Tue Jan 29 14:39:33 2008 From: kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu (Kimo B. Yap) Date: Tue Jan 29 15:11:53 2008 Subject: [DuoList] re: 2300c Hard drive issues Message-ID: > Thanks Josh, I also got that tip from [kby] off-list. That indeed > was probably the source of the problem. I swapped out the cable for > a REV B and also removed the jumper pin that was on the drive when it > was in the 2400c. That did it and the 2300c recognized the HD. Actually it was this answer that jogged me into thinking about it (although i've had the problem before) BTW I haven't forgotten about getting you the 9.2.2 nubus addenda; the MO drive I need to read the cartridge for the archive needs cleaning, although I think i can get the info another way even if I can't get the drive cleaned enough in short order. I've just had a lot of other stuff going on. BTW, 9.2.2 is slow if you load it down too much on the 2300. If you don't try to overdo it's acceptable although not speedy.-kby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080129/f8beaf9c/attachment.html From mac2400 at satx.rr.com Tue Jan 29 15:57:40 2008 From: mac2400 at satx.rr.com (Ralph Mawyer) Date: Tue Jan 29 15:57:52 2008 Subject: [DuoList] PB 2400 memory In-Reply-To: <0550D196-8219-4BD1-9173-E6012E0CFD8A@alumni.caltech.edu> References: <0550D196-8219-4BD1-9173-E6012E0CFD8A@alumni.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <3B5C61B2-0A0C-4C9E-BD6B-5901803E5848@satx.rr.com> Looks like Stock = 0, since they list item on hand for non-memory products. Nice price though. ;-) On Jan 29, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Kimo B. Yap wrote: > FYI, for those with 2400c machines, this place: > > https://www.yourmacstore.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=156&cat=Memory+for+older+Power+Book > > seems to have a stash of 96MB RAM modules. I can vouch that the one > I got works so far.-kby > Ralph Mawyer, Jr. San Antonio, Texas PB2400c/G3-320/112MB/80MB HD/Yu-Plan Keyboard mac2400 http://www.sarofax.com/mac2400/index2.html Your PowerBook 2400 Reference Site -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080129/fd306798/attachment.html From kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu Tue Jan 29 16:15:48 2008 From: kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu (Kimo B. Yap) Date: Tue Jan 29 16:28:53 2008 Subject: [DuoList] PB 2400 memory Message-ID: <87F86D50-3C6E-40ED-BD4C-ABB998CDDF3B@alumni.caltech.edu> > Looks like Stock = 0, since they list item on hand for non-memory > products. Nice price though. ;-) Hmmm, well if your interested you might want to call or try to order anyway. I see a blank after "stock" not zero. I didn't even see that; just ordered it and it came in a day or so. I can't imagine I got the "last one" or even close to it as I just happened on their site; hadn't been looking much before last week (when I got a 2400c).-kby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080129/c968e9d1/attachment-0001.html From ericrsa2004 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 16:38:27 2008 From: ericrsa2004 at yahoo.com (eric blanton) Date: Tue Jan 29 16:38:40 2008 Subject: [DuoList] PB 2400 memory In-Reply-To: <0550D196-8219-4BD1-9173-E6012E0CFD8A@alumni.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <70723.25187.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Thanks for link! I check eBay all the time to no avail. I am so excited! -Eric (Owner of 13 Macs including by beloved Comet) PS: I have a beta copy of OS X that I have thought about attempting to install on the 2400c. I know it'll be slow...just want to do it. Does anyone know if you can boot a PCMCIA CD-ROM on the 2400 or would SCSI work best? Is flash memory an option? "Kimo B. Yap" wrote: FYI, for those with 2400c machines, this place: https://www.yourmacstore.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=156&cat=Memory+for+older+Power+Book seems to have a stash of 96MB RAM modules. I can vouch that the one I got works so far.-kby _______________________________________________ DuoList mailing list DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080129/39c72d49/attachment.html From kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu Wed Jan 30 11:04:02 2008 From: kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu (Kimo B. Yap) Date: Wed Jan 30 11:42:47 2008 Subject: [DuoList] 2300C serial to usb adapter Message-ID: <77EB31C7-D8C0-4516-997D-AAAEE1589916@alumni.caltech.edu> > *The 2300c has no PCMCIA slots, so no USB on that what-so-ever > (some models, > such as the 3400c, 2400c actually have Cardbus enabled slots [or have > ability to be converted to use Cardbus] for USB) It seems like the technologically most useful solution for a duo (if one were to fabricate one) would be a NuBus card that takes PCMCIA cards. There are/were PCI cards that do the same, and technically a 1400 should have the equivalent circuitry as it is a NuBus based powerpc powerbook with PCMCIA slots. But I don't think such a beast was ever made. This would work only in the dock, of course, unless you went further and fabricated it to work in a microdock format from the PDS (aka dock) connector.-kby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080130/dcb7d17c/attachment.html From brittman914 at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 11:49:53 2008 From: brittman914 at gmail.com (Britt Dodd) Date: Wed Jan 30 11:50:33 2008 Subject: [DuoList] 2300C serial to usb adapter In-Reply-To: <77EB31C7-D8C0-4516-997D-AAAEE1589916@alumni.caltech.edu> References: <77EB31C7-D8C0-4516-997D-AAAEE1589916@alumni.caltech.edu> Message-ID: The 1400 did not have the cardbus-enabled slots, as it was a NuBus and lacked the Texas Instruments chipset featured in the 2400 and 3400. And BTW, the Cardbus thing was a total fluke--it wasnt actually planned, it just so happened to support cardbus. On Jan 30, 2008 2:04 PM, Kimo B. Yap wrote: > *The 2300c has no PCMCIA slots, so no USB on that what-so-ever (some > models, > such as the 3400c, 2400c actually have Cardbus enabled slots [or have > ability to be converted to use Cardbus] for USB) > > > It seems like the technologically most useful solution for a duo (if one > were to fabricate > one) would be a NuBus card that takes PCMCIA cards. There are/were PCI > cards that > do the same, and technically a 1400 should have the equivalent circuitry > as it is a NuBus > based powerpc powerbook with PCMCIA slots. But I don't think such a beast > was ever > made. This would work only in the dock, of course, unless you went further > and fabricated > it to work in a microdock format from the PDS (aka dock) connector.-kby > > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080130/48f0e13a/attachment.html From kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu Wed Jan 30 12:43:15 2008 From: kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu (Kimo B. Yap) Date: Wed Jan 30 13:05:11 2008 Subject: [DuoList] 2300C serial to usb adapter Message-ID: <326A451B-B234-4C6D-A614-075E567C98A8@alumni.caltech.edu> > The 1400 did not have the cardbus-enabled slots, as it was a NuBus and > lacked the Texas Instruments chipset featured in the 2400 and 3400. Bummer; forgot there aren't any 16-bit USB cards as well as that "minor" detail.-kby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20080130/179a4e30/attachment.html From kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu Wed Jan 30 14:26:54 2008 From: kby+duolist at alumni.caltech.edu (Kimo B. Yap) Date: Wed Jan 30 15:18:18 2008 Subject: [DuoList] Looking for a 2300c part... Message-ID: <453059C0-FE0E-48D0-9257-EE9C8B54C96D@alumni.caltech.edu> I know it's a long shot but I'm looking for an undamaged 2300c trackpad cable...tia.-kby