On Sunday, Feb 23, 2003, at 10:03 US/Pacific, Rebecca J. Hoffman wrote: > Safari. I wouldn't mind the java console so much except that it brings > up the rotating beach ball and I can't close the window without > forcing the browser to quit. This is not normal. You should be able to move the console window around, scroll it, and minimize it out of the way. I have had this problem myself, but it is a problem. Do the world a favor and report it to Apple. With the offending page open, choose the menu item Safari > Report Bugs to Apple. --Basil