a couple of severe solutions you may have to consider: sell it on ebay and get a new one (ibooks have incredibly high resale values), OR keep sending it into applecare and eventually they'll give you a new laptop. they have an internal policy with new laptops, if you keep sending it in they'll eventually just send you a new system, that will cost them less than the constant diagnostics and shipping. -b- On Nov 17, 2004, at 12:36 PM, stef wrote: > my ibook G4 [OS 10.3.6] has been having this issue that it gets really > warm on the lower left side [warmer than usual] and when this happens > many applications start crashing/quitting [even the finder, the dock , > safari] > > I know it is not software related because i did clean installs - i > even erased / reformatted / reinstalled the drive.