There isn't any such as a perfect ivory tower. I do think that most of us don't have top secret data that some hacker would go through all the trouble to get at. I always have my firewall on as far as that goes. Also, if you have a router then you have a hardware firewall. --- James Paul Manley Albuquerque, New Mexico Jim Manley's Photoshop Elements Page http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html On Mar 6, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Jean-Paul Thuot wrote: > You mean our ivory tower isn't safe after all? > > I wonder if your basic end-user Mac connected to the net with it's > firewall up and non-essential services turned off would be as > vulnerable though. This was a server that the crackers had local user > access to, which I think is a bit different from what most of us are > doing with our Macs.