From pitou672000 at yahoo.ca Fri Nov 3 12:48:30 2006 From: pitou672000 at yahoo.ca (Peter) Date: Fri Nov 3 12:48:40 2006 Subject: [iBook] ibook no video Message-ID: <454BAB1E.9020605@yahoo.ca> Hi, Can I run a 466 clamshell with no lcd, using a dongle to do a regular monitor? If so, How much are the dongles, and how much would replacing the interior cable for the monitor be? as well as any other answers to questions I have- BTW, I don't own this computer yet, but am researching before I buy. Thanks Peter From howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz Fri Nov 3 17:13:29 2006 From: howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz (Howard Pettigrew) Date: Fri Nov 3 17:17:20 2006 Subject: [iBook] ibook no video In-Reply-To: <454BAB1E.9020605@yahoo.ca> References: <454BAB1E.9020605@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: Peter, not an expert by any means and it has been a while since I had anything to do with the clamshells, but as far as I am aware, the clamshells only had video out through a special plug and cable that plugged into the speaker socket. Sounds strange but if you put in a 3 section earphone plug, you got sound and if you put in the 4 section video adaptor cable, you got video. The cable had three white, red, yellow RCA plugs on the other end and was designed to be plugged into a TV,etc but the resolution was pretty low (VGA) so it looked pretty ghastly - text on screen was a waste of time - unreadable. I don't know of any other way of getting video out of a clamshell. but any minute now, someone will pop on and tell me I'm wrong. Hope this is of some help. Cheers H On 4/11/2006, at 9:48 AM, Peter wrote: > Hi, Can I run a 466 clamshell with no lcd, using a dongle to do a > regular monitor? If so, How much are the dongles, and how much > would replacing the interior cable for the monitor be? as well as > any other answers to questions I have- BTW, I don't own this > computer yet, but am researching before I buy. > > Thanks > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From gooddog at interlync.com Thu Nov 9 18:47:33 2006 From: gooddog at interlync.com (gooddog@interlync.com) Date: Thu Nov 9 18:44:26 2006 Subject: [iBook] Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz In-Reply-To: <60882c360608260626y3ae152bfp5cecde43a0559fa6@mail.gmail.com> References: <60882c360608260626y3ae152bfp5cecde43a0559fa6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11778BFB-4363-4F26-8FA0-031979B83130@interlync.com> Hello, folks; I have an iBook with these specs iBook G4, 1.2 GHz, 512 L2 Cache, 1.25 GB memory, 60 GB harddrive. and am going to be giving this to a friend's 14 year old so he can use it mainly for GarareBand. Has anyone used GB much on an iBook like this one? How will it work? Are there any performance issues to expect, or quirks? I ask so I'll be prepared to help out if need be. Thanks, Mark From ddwriter at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 9 19:50:42 2006 From: ddwriter at sbcglobal.net (Diana Dominguez) Date: Thu Nov 9 19:50:44 2006 Subject: [iBook] Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz In-Reply-To: <11778BFB-4363-4F26-8FA0-031979B83130@interlync.com> References: <60882c360608260626y3ae152bfp5cecde43a0559fa6@mail.gmail.com> <11778BFB-4363-4F26-8FA0-031979B83130@interlync.com> Message-ID: <5D053A9A-17EB-4E30-AB06-CB6DCFC305EE@sbcglobal.net> My son uses GB extensively. Here's his input: It would run better on a Powerbook with a similar processor speed, for example 1.33 Ghz Powerbook G4. GB requires certain hardware features that runs better on a Powerbook that a iBook simply doesn't support (L3 Cache, higher front side bus, faster RAM). Diana Dominguez ddwriter@sbcglobal.net You only live once, but you do it right, once is enough! - Mae West On Nov 9, 2006, at 6:47 PM, gooddog@interlync.com wrote: > Hello, folks; > > I have an iBook with these specs > > iBook G4, 1.2 GHz, 512 L2 Cache, 1.25 GB memory, 60 GB harddrive. > > > and am going to be giving this to a friend's 14 year old so he can > use it mainly for GarareBand. Has anyone used GB much on an iBook > like this one? How will it work? Are there any performance issues > to expect, or quirks? I ask so I'll be prepared to help out if > need be. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061109/2f4b9409/attachment.html From angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au Thu Nov 9 20:05:05 2006 From: angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au (Angus Wallace) Date: Thu Nov 9 20:05:10 2006 Subject: [iBook] Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz In-Reply-To: <11778BFB-4363-4F26-8FA0-031979B83130@interlync.com> References: <60882c360608260626y3ae152bfp5cecde43a0559fa6@mail.gmail.com> <11778BFB-4363-4F26-8FA0-031979B83130@interlync.com> Message-ID: <1163131505.4553fa71e4ef3@imp.flinders.edu.au> I've used it on my iBook (G4 800, 256kB L2 cache, 640MB RAM, 60GB hard disk), and it's usable, but not with many channels or effects. It's pretty slow, and not particularly enjoyable to use though. I use Protools too, and find that I can get a lot more done, and it's much more responsive. To me this says that Garageband is quite resource-intensive. Having said this, your iBook is quite a bit more gutsy than mine, so it should fare much better. The extra RAM and L2 cache should go a long way. In any case, I'd be interested to know how your friend's son goes (if he's not happy with it, I can take it off your hands! ;-) Depending on what he wants to do, a good program is Audacity. It's a basic multichannel recording program, and on any machine will allow similtaneous recording/playback of more channels than Garagaband will. So, if that's his focus, and he's running out of grunt to record lots of channels, there are other options. Another good program is Ardour. (both these are Free-software or the GNU variety) It depends what he wants to do. If he wants to only record live instruments, and layer sounds, mix down, etc, there are better options. If he wants to 'play' with loops, effects, software synths, etc, then Garageband is a good option and he might like more computing grunt. Cheers, -Gus Quoting gooddog@interlync.com: > Hello, folks; > > I have an iBook with these specs > > iBook G4, 1.2 GHz, 512 L2 Cache, 1.25 GB memory, 60 GB harddrive. > > > and am going to be giving this to a friend's 14 year old so he can > use it mainly for GarareBand. Has anyone used GB much on an iBook > like this one? How will it work? Are there any performance issues to > expect, or quirks? I ask so I'll be prepared to help out if need be. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz Thu Nov 9 21:53:21 2006 From: howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz (Howard Pettigrew) Date: Thu Nov 9 21:57:21 2006 Subject: [iBook] Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz In-Reply-To: <11778BFB-4363-4F26-8FA0-031979B83130@interlync.com> References: <60882c360608260626y3ae152bfp5cecde43a0559fa6@mail.gmail.com> <11778BFB-4363-4F26-8FA0-031979B83130@interlync.com> Message-ID: Mark, how much computing experience has he had? What has he done in this line before? Will he be learning to use Garageband (which is one of the simplest programmes to give children) or will he be pushing the boundaries as he is already an experienced Mac user / music programme user? Will he be recording his own music loops or just using the in-built loops? I taught and demoed Garageband around schools on a 993 G4 with only 512 megs so for a starter machine, what you have is fine. You've got plenty of RAM there which will be a great help. It will go better if kept on power and with the power settings set to Best Performance. There are some tips in the Garageband help as to how to get the best of a computer using Garageband. When you start to use lots of tracks, it will start to moan. If you have no other programmes running, this is a huge help too as Garageband is memory intensive. The reason I ask the questions is, if he has not done much of this before, then this will be a great machine to start on and see how he goes. If he proves to be a whiz composer, then it will be worth exploring getting a gruntier desktop machine but this will start him off just fine. Just my pennies worth from someone who spends a lot of time in schools teaching Garageband. Cheers H in NZ On 10/11/2006, at 3:47 PM, gooddog@interlync.com wrote: > Hello, folks; > > I have an iBook with these specs > > iBook G4, 1.2 GHz, 512 L2 Cache, 1.25 GB memory, 60 GB harddrive. > > > and am going to be giving this to a friend's 14 year old so he can > use it mainly for GarareBand. Has anyone used GB much on an iBook > like this one? How will it work? Are there any performance issues > to expect, or quirks? I ask so I'll be prepared to help out if > need be. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From dlyle at sc.rr.com Sat Nov 11 16:08:25 2006 From: dlyle at sc.rr.com (David/Jeanie Lyle) Date: Sat Nov 11 16:08:52 2006 Subject: [iBook] Keyboard problems Message-ID: The keyboard in my iBook G4 quit working today. Fortunately, I have a separate Apple bluetooth keyboard that I pulled out of the closet and am presently using. I seem to remember someone discussing this problem before on the list. Is it possible to review old discussions? IS this something I'm going to have to send my notebook back to Apple for repair? It's the first problem I've had with my computer since purchasing it new 2 years ago. It's my first and only Mac and I'm still learning the "ins and outs" of computing. I purchased it as a middle aged "return to college" student. It's been more dependable than my PC desktop... Until now! Can you offer any leads or helpful nformation? Jeanie From sundogsingreece at mac.com Sat Nov 11 17:24:14 2006 From: sundogsingreece at mac.com (Ley Schleich) Date: Sat Nov 11 17:23:36 2006 Subject: [iBook] ibook Airextreme external In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I purchased an AirExtreme wireless adapter device for my iBook but have been unsuccessful getting it to recognize my airport. I have installed the drivers and followed the steps but still no connection. Anyone have a troubleshooting solution to offer? Karl From gooddog at interlync.com Sun Nov 12 10:18:53 2006 From: gooddog at interlync.com (gooddog@interlync.com) Date: Sun Nov 12 10:15:33 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7D1597C0-567A-4AB8-9C78-70EC50BF599A@interlync.com> This is slightly off-topic, so I hope you'll bear with me. If this requires private emails to me to keep it off the list, that's fine. I'm suggesting to a friend of mine to get a Mac to go along with his Windows, so he can dedicate his Mac to two special projects. Here's his situation: He has a boatload of audio tapes of lectures from an instructor, and wants to transfer them to a digital format (he hopes there's a way to be able to search content in a digital file, but I have no clue). He's on Windows, and doesn't have much experience working with/ maintaining his own computer as many of us, on various levels, have learned to do with our Macs. With Windows, it seems to me, if you're not inclined to tinker and learn, you become dependent on someone else. This can often lead to a type of Windows slavery, where the person can't leave Windows for fear of "something bad", and then gets hooked up with someone who will encourage this dependency knowingly or unknowingly. Make sense? His other project is recipes. He has a ton of recipes, clipped from magazines, newspapers, etc., that he wants to scan, archive, and be able to search. He's a private chef, and wants to create a database of his recipes and articles. I assume there's a way to create a database something has been OCRed, given the proper program, etc., unless I'm smoking crack again. I suggested he go with a Mac, and get something to use alongside his Windows box, and dedicate it to only his projects. This was a few months before the Intel Mac news hit. He was psyched about the transition, wanted to get a Mac, but needed to wait a while. In the meantime, the Mac Intel news broke, and when he talked to his Windows guy about it, my friend was told to wait a few years until the Intel thing had worked out the bugs. Besides, the Windows guy said, it's better to wait and get an Intel Mac because you can't be sure if Apple will support the old PPC chipped models in the future. In the meantime, my friend went with a custom built Windows machine this guy built for him. Since then, we have continued to discuss the sound/recipe project, and I have suggested he talk to people who actually know about Macs and PCs, who can talk to him about the differences from an informed, technical angle. He seems fearful to move away from a PC because of comfort. However, he sees me working with Sound Studio (which came with one our Macs), and he is rather drooling to do the same. I'm sure there's something comparable on Windows (am I dreaming?), but, in that case, you are stuck with using Windows. I just hate seeing him stay with Windows when I understand that the Mac side of audio software and interface are so much better, besides which, he will continue not to be able to become more independent in his computer usage and knowledge. So the question is, to you all with much more experience than myself, what do you think? Is there a way he can do his recipe project on a Mac? If so, what program/programs would he use? I assumed it would be Adobe Acrobat Pro which has a built in OCR component. What about the sound situation? I'm aware of Sound Studio, Fission/ Audio HiJack Pro, Amadeus, etc. What else am I missing? I was on the Mac Audio list for awhile, but never got much response to questions, so I place them before you folks. I welcome your comments as suggestions. Again, please email me privately if this is inappropriate for the list. Thanks in advance. Mark From gooddog at interlync.com Sun Nov 12 10:22:40 2006 From: gooddog at interlync.com (gooddog@interlync.com) Date: Sun Nov 12 10:19:20 2006 Subject: [iBook] Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68AE7016-1ECC-4CFC-A8D9-DD2A6785D933@interlync.com> First of all, thank you one and all, Diana, Angus, and Howard. Here's the situation in a bit more detail, which will address the many questions raised: The kid we're talking about is 13, and has only used Windows. My wife and I, the kid's mom, and the kid attended a GB demo on a Sunday morning at our local Apple Store. The musician who demo-ed did a great job, resulting in said teenager being in a lather to get GB and a Mac. His use would be as a beginner, though I let him borrow this iBook one time to give it a test run with his band mates from school (small college prep academy), who want to play rock music. They created a piece with several tracks using the loops, and had a blast doing so. His other interest is the piano, which would be combined with GB for playing/recording. There are plans to get a keyboard to go along with his new gift (He's not aware of this current iteration of the gift. All he knows is that he's asked for a Mac, and it could be a family computer that all will share.). He's demonstrated considerable skill with playing piano, and immediately saw the potential for composing and creating music with a keyboard when he was at the GB demo. I'm wondering, is there any software or plug-ins that helps GB be used for lessons? What's a good keyboard? Would a keyboard work with this iBook? Again, I appreciate your help and response on this matter. I'm clued in enough to guide them toward the Mac, but with music, GB type material, I'm rather clueless. Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061112/81a82522/attachment.html From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 12 11:46:31 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Sun Nov 12 11:46:41 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: <7D1597C0-567A-4AB8-9C78-70EC50BF599A@interlync.com> Message-ID: On 11/12/06 10:18 AM, "gooddog@interlync.com" wrote: > So the question is, to you all with much more experience than myself, > what do you think? Is there a way he can do his recipe project on a > Mac? If so, what program/programs would he use? I assumed it would be > Adobe Acrobat Pro which has a built in OCR component. You can simply scan the recipes, and then use the Mac's built in .pdf reader, Preview, to select and extract whatever text you want from the scans and import it into any other program you like, such as Word, and then work with it any way you choose. No extra tools, or expense required. It works extremely well (at least the way I use it). Brian From gooddog at interlync.com Sun Nov 12 12:50:29 2006 From: gooddog at interlync.com (gooddog@interlync.com) Date: Sun Nov 12 12:47:09 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 12, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Brian Olesky wrote: > On 11/12/06 10:18 AM, "gooddog@interlync.com" > wrote: > > > So the question is, to you all with much more experience than > myself, > > what do you think? Is there a way he can do his recipe project on a > > Mac? If so, what program/programs would he use? I assumed it > would be > > Adobe Acrobat Pro which has a built in OCR component. > > You can simply scan the recipes, and then use the Mac's built in .pdf > reader, Preview, to select and extract whatever text you want from > the scans > and import it into any other program you like, such as Word, and > then work > with it any way you choose. No extra tools, or expense required. It > works > extremely well (at least the way I use it). Thanks, Brian. Does the Mac OS have a built in OCR capability, to render a scan searchable? He wants to build a database (again, I'm not sure if this is possible) of these recipes, all searchable. Are we talking about FileMaker Pro or something else or something built into the Mac? With Spotlight, this function is kind of there, no? Thanks, mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061112/e49da319/attachment.html From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 12 12:54:40 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Sun Nov 12 12:54:47 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> >> You can simply scan the recipes, and then use the Mac's built in .pdf >> reader, Preview, to select and extract whatever text you want from >> the scans >> and import it into any other program you like, such as Word, and >> then work >> with it any way you choose. No extra tools, or expense required. It >> works >> extremely well (at least the way I use it). > Thanks, Brian. Does the Mac OS have a built in OCR capability, to > render a scan searchable? He wants to build a database (again, I'm > not sure if this is possible) of these recipes, all searchable. Are > we talking about FileMaker Pro or something else or something built > into the Mac? With Spotlight, this function is kind of there, no? > > Thanks, > > mark > Not sure about that. All I ever do in the area you're discussing is scan documents and select sections for inputting their text into my Word docs. I don't even use database softwear. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Brian From tr5374 at csc.albany.edu Sun Nov 12 13:11:49 2006 From: tr5374 at csc.albany.edu (Tom R. no spam) Date: Sun Nov 12 13:11:54 2006 Subject: [iBook] Keyboard problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you spilled stuff on it and it is gummed up, you can carefully remove it from the iBook, then carefully flow distilled water over it for a long time, hopefully to dissolve the gummy residue. Other than that, I don't recall any particular discussions how to fix a bad keyboard. If it's under applecare, just get a replacement. On Sat, 11 Nov 2006, David/Jeanie Lyle wrote: > The keyboard in my iBook G4 quit working today. Fortunately, I have a > separate Apple bluetooth keyboard that I pulled out of the closet and am > presently using. I seem to remember someone discussing this problem before > on the list. Is it possible to review old discussions? IS this something > I'm going to have to send my notebook back to Apple for repair? It's the > first problem I've had with my computer since purchasing it new 2 years ago. . . . From patdart at cox.net Sun Nov 12 14:03:46 2006 From: patdart at cox.net (Pat) Date: Sun Nov 12 14:03:51 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use a recipe program that is really easy to use. It's called Mastercook and I've put together a whole cookbook for a non-profit using it. Pat On Nov 12, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Brian Olesky wrote: > >> So the question is, to you all with much more experience than myself, >> what do you think? Is there a way he can do his recipe project on a >> Mac? If so, what program/programs would he use? I assumed it would be >> Adobe Acrobat Pro which has a built in OCR component. > > You can simply scan the recipes, and then use the Mac's built in .pdf > reader, Preview, to select and extract whatever text you want from the > scans > and import it into any other program you like, such as Word, and then > work > with it any way you choose. No extra tools, or expense required. It > works > extremely well (at least the way I use it). > > Brian From joe at joethejuggler.com Sun Nov 12 14:33:12 2006 From: joe at joethejuggler.com (joe) Date: Sun Nov 12 14:33:16 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Brian Olesky wrote: > >>> >>> You can simply scan the recipes, and then use the Mac's built >>> in .pdf >>> reader, Preview, to select and extract whatever text you want from >>> the scans >>> and import it into any other program you like, such as Word, and >>> then work >>> with it any way you choose. No extra tools, or expense required. It >>> works >>> extremely well (at least the way I use it). >> Thanks, Brian. Does the Mac OS have a built in OCR capability, to >> render a scan searchable? He wants to build a database (again, I'm >> not sure if this is possible) of these recipes, all searchable. Are >> we talking about FileMaker Pro or something else or something built >> into the Mac? With Spotlight, this function is kind of there, no? >> >> Thanks, >> >> mark >> > Not sure about that. All I ever do in the area you're discussing is > scan > documents and select sections for inputting their text into my Word > docs. I > don't even use database softwear. Sounds like Brian is using some kind of OCR that's part of his scanner software. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Preview that could take text out of a PDF if said text is just an embedded image. Mark is right--you need some OCR software somewhere to make the scanned recipes into text. It sounds like the recipe project won't be something you can fully automate--I'm guessing the recipes aren't in a standard format, so you'll have do some copy and pasting of text into whatever db you set up. (Filemaker would work fine for that--or a dedicated recipe program. Or you could probably find a nice recipe template for Filemaker.) Joe From cartwrig at aye.net Sun Nov 12 14:47:28 2006 From: cartwrig at aye.net (Anne Cartwright) Date: Sun Nov 12 14:47:43 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4557A480.4020100@aye.net> joe wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Brian Olesky wrote: > >> >>>> >>>> You can simply scan the recipes, and then use the Mac's built in .pdf >>>> reader, Preview, to select and extract whatever text you want from >>>> the scans >>>> and import it into any other program you like, such as Word, and >>>> then work >>>> with it any way you choose. No extra tools, or expense required. It >>>> works >>>> extremely well (at least the way I use it). >>> Thanks, Brian. Does the Mac OS have a built in OCR capability, to >>> render a scan searchable? He wants to build a database (again, I'm >>> not sure if this is possible) of these recipes, all searchable. Are >>> we talking about FileMaker Pro or something else or something built >>> into the Mac? With Spotlight, this function is kind of there, no? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> mark >>> >> Not sure about that. All I ever do in the area you're discussing is scan >> documents and select sections for inputting their text into my Word >> docs. I >> don't even use database softwear. > Sounds like Brian is using some kind of OCR that's part of his scanner > software. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Preview that could take > text out of a PDF if said text is just an embedded image. Mark is > right--you need some OCR software somewhere to make the scanned > recipes into text. It sounds like the recipe project won't be > something you can fully automate--I'm guessing the recipes aren't in a > standard format, so you'll have do some copy and pasting of text into > whatever db you set up. (Filemaker would work fine for that--or a > dedicated recipe program. Or you could probably find a nice recipe > template for Filemaker.) > > Joe I use the OCR software from Readiris with my Epson scanner and while it takes some final polishing of the output, it works well for me in many different situations. I scan books, newspapers, scraps of printed text, even instructions from the inside of game boxes. Often I am scanning material that is in a foreign language; I just tell Readiris what language to expect. Sometimes I copy the results right from the scan and paste it into a translator on the Internet to find how the game is played. Suggest you have your friend look into Readiris. http://www.irislink.com Anne From spcmiller at yahoo.com Sun Nov 12 15:10:44 2006 From: spcmiller at yahoo.com (Karl Miller) Date: Sun Nov 12 15:10:59 2006 Subject: [iBook] Replacing an iBook G3 HDD Message-ID: <20061112231044.38713.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Good afternoon, I have run out of space on my 10GB HD (go figure) and I have the inclination to replace it with a 2.5" Travelstar HDD that I have, but all of the instructions on line I have seen say the task is difficult, if not simply time and patience-consuming. So, is it reasonable to expect to be able to replace the HDD myself, or if not, can someone point me to a place online that will do it? Thanks. Karl. "Individual Freedom Within Spiritual Bounds" From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 12 15:11:55 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Sun Nov 12 15:12:05 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 11/12/06 2:33 PM, "joe" wrote: >> Not sure about that. All I ever do in the area you're discussing is >> scan >> documents and select sections for inputting their text into my Word >> docs. I >> don't even use database softwear. > Sounds like Brian is using some kind of OCR that's part of his > scanner software. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Preview that > could take text out of a PDF if said text is just an embedded image. > Mark is right--you need some OCR software somewhere to make the > scanned recipes into text. It sounds like the recipe project won't > be something you can fully automate--I'm guessing the recipes aren't > in a standard format, so you'll have do some copy and pasting of text > into whatever db you set up. (Filemaker would work fine for that--or > a dedicated recipe program. Or you could probably find a nice recipe > template for Filemaker.) > > Joe Not true, Joe. I actually am talking about extracting text from .pdf files. And these are usually .pdf files someone's emailed to me. If you look in the preview Help file you'll see that all you have to do is select the "text tool" in the Preview header, highlight the copy in any .pdf file, and then simply copy and paste it into a Word doc. I do it all the time. Try it. Brian From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 12 15:16:32 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Sun Nov 12 15:16:40 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> Not sure about that. All I ever do in the area you're discussing is >> scan >> documents and select sections for inputting their text into my Word >> docs. I >> don't even use database softwear. > Sounds like Brian is using some kind of OCR that's part of his > scanner software. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Preview that > could take text out of a PDF if said text is just an embedded image. > Mark is right--you need some OCR software somewhere to make the > scanned recipes into text. It sounds like the recipe project won't > be something you can fully automate--I'm guessing the recipes aren't > in a standard format, so you'll have do some copy and pasting of text > into whatever db you set up. (Filemaker would work fine for that--or > a dedicated recipe program. Or you could probably find a nice recipe > template for Filemaker.) > > Joe > Actually, to elaborate still further, here's the text from the Help file on extracting text from .pdf's: Selecting and copying text in a PDF file You can select and copy text from a PDF file, then paste it into another application, such as a word processor. ? To copy text, choose Tools > Text Tool and drag over the text as you normally would. Then choose Edit > Copy. With some PDF files, line breaks are not saved when you copy text, so when you paste the text, the lines all run together. ? To select only a portion of text horizontally (for example, to select only one column in a two-column document), choose Tools > Text Tool, then press the Option key and select the text. ? To select a portion of the page and copy it as a graphic image, choose Tools > Select Tool and select a portion of the page. Then choose Edit > Copy. Brian (again) From joe at joethejuggler.com Sun Nov 12 15:35:50 2006 From: joe at joethejuggler.com (joe) Date: Sun Nov 12 15:35:56 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 12, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Brian Olesky wrote: > On 11/12/06 2:33 PM, "joe" wrote: > >>> Not sure about that. All I ever do in the area you're discussing is >>> scan >>> documents and select sections for inputting their text into my Word >>> docs. I >>> don't even use database softwear. >> Sounds like Brian is using some kind of OCR that's part of his >> scanner software. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Preview that >> could take text out of a PDF if said text is just an embedded image. >> Mark is right--you need some OCR software somewhere to make the >> scanned recipes into text. It sounds like the recipe project won't >> be something you can fully automate--I'm guessing the recipes aren't >> in a standard format, so you'll have do some copy and pasting of text >> into whatever db you set up. (Filemaker would work fine for that--or >> a dedicated recipe program. Or you could probably find a nice recipe >> template for Filemaker.) > > Not true, Joe. I actually am talking about extracting text > from .pdf files. > And these are usually .pdf files someone's emailed to me. Yes--that is text that is already text in the PDF files that were e- mailed to you. Mark asked about scanning recipes. At some point, he will need to use OCR software to make the scanned recipes into text. I'm pretty certain you're mistaken, Brian. What you describe is merely copying and pasting text that is already text from a PDF file. Joe From angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au Sun Nov 12 15:45:13 2006 From: angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au (Angus Wallace) Date: Sun Nov 12 15:45:25 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1163375113.4557b20992224@imp.flinders.edu.au> Joe is correct. Text can be present in a pdf either as text, or as an image (imaging taking a photo of a page, and putting a jpg of that in a pdf). In the case that the text is stored as an image, you cannot use the text tool to select and copy the text. You will need to use OCR. Can't suggest a program, but a quick google shows two GNU OCR packages (these are Free Software). http://www.gnu.org/software/ocrad/ocrad.html http://jocr.sourceforge.net/download.html These might not be particularly user-friendly - especially on Mac.. you might need to shell out some $$$. Have fun! -Gus Quoting joe : > > On Nov 12, 2006, at 5:11 PM, Brian Olesky wrote: > > > On 11/12/06 2:33 PM, "joe" wrote: > > > >>> Not sure about that. All I ever do in the area you're discussing is > >>> scan > >>> documents and select sections for inputting their text into my Word > >>> docs. I > >>> don't even use database softwear. > >> Sounds like Brian is using some kind of OCR that's part of his > >> scanner software. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in Preview that > >> could take text out of a PDF if said text is just an embedded image. > >> Mark is right--you need some OCR software somewhere to make the > >> scanned recipes into text. It sounds like the recipe project won't > >> be something you can fully automate--I'm guessing the recipes aren't > >> in a standard format, so you'll have do some copy and pasting of text > >> into whatever db you set up. (Filemaker would work fine for that--or > >> a dedicated recipe program. Or you could probably find a nice recipe > >> template for Filemaker.) > > > > Not true, Joe. I actually am talking about extracting text > > from .pdf files. > > And these are usually .pdf files someone's emailed to me. > > Yes--that is text that is already text in the PDF files that were e- > mailed to you. Mark asked about scanning recipes. At some point, he > will need to use OCR software to make the scanned recipes into text. > > I'm pretty certain you're mistaken, Brian. What you describe is > merely copying and pasting text that is already text from a PDF file. > > > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au Sun Nov 12 15:46:59 2006 From: angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au (Angus Wallace) Date: Sun Nov 12 15:47:03 2006 Subject: [iBook] Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz In-Reply-To: <68AE7016-1ECC-4CFC-A8D9-DD2A6785D933@interlync.com> References: <68AE7016-1ECC-4CFC-A8D9-DD2A6785D933@interlync.com> Message-ID: <1163375219.4557b273daa15@imp.flinders.edu.au> Sounds great. There's a USB keyboard you can get. can't remember the brand. An 80-key one is about AU$150, from memory. From the little I've seen they're good. Have a gander at the Apple shop for suggestions. Quoting gooddog@interlync.com: > First of all, thank you one and all, Diana, Angus, and Howard. > Here's the situation in a bit more detail, which will address the > many questions raised: > > The kid we're talking about is 13, and has only used Windows. My wife > and I, the kid's mom, and the kid attended a GB demo on a Sunday > morning at our local Apple Store. The musician who demo-ed did a > great job, resulting in said teenager being in a lather to get GB and > a Mac. > > His use would be as a beginner, though I let him borrow this iBook > one time to give it a test run with his band mates from school (small > college prep academy), who want to play rock music. They created a > piece with several tracks using the loops, and had a blast doing so. > > His other interest is the piano, which would be combined with GB for > playing/recording. There are plans to get a keyboard to go along with > his new gift (He's not aware of this current iteration of the gift. > All he knows is that he's asked for a Mac, and it could be a family > computer that all will share.). He's demonstrated considerable skill > with playing piano, and immediately saw the potential for composing > and creating music with a keyboard when he was at the GB demo. > > I'm wondering, is there any software or plug-ins that helps GB be > used for lessons? What's a good keyboard? Would a keyboard work with > this iBook? > > Again, I appreciate your help and response on this matter. I'm clued > in enough to guide them toward the Mac, but with music, GB type > material, I'm rather clueless. > > Mark > From doerps at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 12 16:03:55 2006 From: doerps at sbcglobal.net (Todd Doerpinghaus) Date: Sun Nov 12 16:04:02 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic mac mini In-Reply-To: <7D1597C0-567A-4AB8-9C78-70EC50BF599A@interlync.com> Message-ID: <20061113000355.58522.qmail@web83202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My post is off topic as well. I have a 7 year old that loves computers. He has used my iBook G3 900, mostly just to play games or type a little. I am interested in bringing him on board, but I'm not sure if a portable is the best choice for him. I have seen the mac mini and was wondering if any of you (or your kids) have them and what experience you have with them. I have converted him from a windows machine and he is really excited. I just don't want him to be discouraged by the experience as it will be different from what he has at school. If it is better to respond by personal email to keep this off the iBook thread, that would be great. Thanks a bunch. He has been asking me often when his mini will arrive. Todd - From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 12 16:07:05 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Sun Nov 12 16:07:15 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: <1163375113.4557b20992224@imp.flinders.edu.au> Message-ID: On 11/12/06 3:45 PM, "Angus Wallace" wrote: > > Joe is correct. Text can be present in a pdf either as text, or as an image > (imaging taking a photo of a page, and putting a jpg of that in a pdf). In the > case that the text is stored as an image, you cannot use the text tool to > select and copy the text. You will need to use OCR. > To try and get a better handle on this, I looked at a few .pdfs I have stored, particularly one I worked with just last week--a brochure a client sent me, which I extracted a page of copy from and put into something else I'm writing for them. Last week, I simply went into the .pdf of their old brochure, highlighted the text as Preview recommends, imported it into my Word doc and edited it as needed. However, in going back just now, it suddenly doesn't work at all! I tried highlighting and copying the exact same page I did last week, and the text tool no longer works-it won't highlight anything. This is weird. In going from helper to helpee, anybody know why my text tool suddenly doesn't work on the exact same section of the exact same pdf it worked on just last week? (And since I just sent the Help file copy to the list, I think I'm doing everything right.) Brian (who's now worried that I jinxed myself giving up this info) From cmmac at sonic.net Sun Nov 12 16:17:52 2006 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Sun Nov 12 16:18:18 2006 Subject: [iBook] Replacing an iBook G3 HDD In-Reply-To: <20061112231044.38713.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061112231044.38713.qmail@web50608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 3:10 PM -0800 11/12/06, Karl Miller wrote: >Good afternoon, > >I have run out of space on my 10GB HD (go figure) and I have the >inclination to replace it with a 2.5" Travelstar HDD that I have, >but all of the instructions on line I have seen say the task is >difficult, if not simply time and patience-consuming. So, is it >reasonable to expect to be able to replace the HDD myself, or if >not, can someone point me to a place online that will do it? It depends on your level of expertise. It is difficult. I've done it to 3 1/2 iBooks now (waiting for replacement drive to make it 4). There are about 56 screws to be taken out (and hopefully put back). Many of the screws are very tight, requiring pliers or a lot of gouging of the screw to remove. There are a number of tiny electrical connectors to disconnect and doing it wrong can wreck them If you are going to do it, go to and download the PDF take apart instructions, then print them out. When you disassemble it, put all the pieces in a box except for the screws. Tape the screws to the printout right where they are in the pictures. I didn't do this the first time and ended up with one extra screw (and considered myself lucky that it was only one). The two times after that I was able to reassemble them without a problem. Whether you can do it, well, only you know what you're capable of. If you're standard method for repairing things involves a hammer, don't do it. If you're the sort that dissects frogs then puts them back together and they work, go for it. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From scruss at scruss.com Sun Nov 12 17:37:07 2006 From: scruss at scruss.com (Stewart C. Russell) Date: Sun Nov 12 17:37:24 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4557CC43.6090109@scruss.com> Preview definitely doesn't contain OCR tools. Try to select the second piece of text from this sample file: -- it's an embedded bitmap. I've never found the free OCR tools to work well, and I've spent many years looking. OCR got real expensive since ScanSoft bought up all the patents. I use ReadIRIS, and it works pretty well: . It pains me to say it, but the OCR built into the Microsoft Office Document Viewer is quite good. Stewart -- http://scruss.com/blog/ From kollar at alltel.net Sun Nov 12 18:57:52 2006 From: kollar at alltel.net (Larry Kollar) Date: Sun Nov 12 18:58:00 2006 Subject: [iBook] Off topic? Audio and OCR help wanted In-Reply-To: <7D1597C0-567A-4AB8-9C78-70EC50BF599A@interlync.com> References: <7D1597C0-567A-4AB8-9C78-70EC50BF599A@interlync.com> Message-ID: > He has a boatload of audio tapes of lectures from an instructor, > and wants to transfer them to a digital format (he hopes there's a > way to be able to search content in a digital file, but I have no > clue). He's on Windows... I suppose that with a speech-to-text translator, he could build a database of search terms. I haven't used any of them, so I don't know how well that would work. What I *do* know is that for video, you do it the old-fashioned way: logging (watch the video and record the time of each scene break and what's following). Logging should work for audio as well, and should be easier on an iBook because you can fit both a text editor and the shrunken iTunes window (or QT Player) on an iBook screen. > His other project is recipes. He has a ton of recipes, clipped from > magazines, newspapers, etc., that he wants to scan, archive, and be > able to search. He's a private chef, and wants to create a database > of his recipes and articles. I assume there's a way to create a > database something has been OCRed, given the proper program, etc., > unless I'm smoking crack again. If he doesn't have a scanner, he'll (obviously) need one. Some come with OCR software (we got some iteration of ReadIris with our HP scanner). I've compiled the JOCR program mentioned by another respondent, but you really need to be comfortable in Terminal to use it. Plenty of databases out there, some dedicated to recipes. Tiger has a built-in database engine (SQLite), but that would require some programming (AppleScript Studio, perhaps). > ... he sees me working with Sound Studio (which came with one our > Macs), and he is rather drooling to do the same. I'm sure there's > something comparable on Windows (am I dreaming?), but, in that > case, you are stuck with using Windows. Sony offers a range of audio software, with names like Acid and Cinescore, but I wouldn't depend on a Dozebox for stuff that involves my livelihood. (I know lots of people don't have that choice, unfortunately.) I think Cinescore is similar to Soundtrack Pro in scope, and Acid to Logic Pro. You might want to point out the iLife suite and show him what can be done with the software that comes standard on every Mac. > What about the sound situation? I'm aware of Sound Studio, Fission/ > Audio HiJack Pro, Amadeus, etc. What else am I missing? I was on > the Mac Audio list for awhile, but never got much response to > questions, so I place them before you folks. Audacity (Free), Soundtrack Pro, Bias Peak (pro), Logic Pro... there's a ton of audio software out there. You have to get the sound *into* the Mac though; a Griffin iMic should be sufficient for personal use. He might find Audacity interesting because it runs on Dozeboxes and Linux (where it came from) as well. -- Larry Kollar k o l l a r @ a l l t e l . n e t Unix Text Processing: "UTP Revival" http://unixtext.org/ From rpjepsen at gmail.com Mon Nov 13 10:37:28 2006 From: rpjepsen at gmail.com (Richard Jepsen) Date: Mon Nov 13 10:37:59 2006 Subject: [iBook] 600mhz ibook with no sound out Message-ID: <5fb479160611131037p762762efg553ee2da87780cf0@mail.gmail.com> I have a 600 mhz ibook with no sound. Everything else seems to work. I have tried upgrading software, firmware, reset the PMU, checked to make sure that the speaker cable is properly connected to the motherboard, checked all the settings and no change. When plug in some head phones I get some white noise but nothing else. Has anyone else experienced this and fixed it short of replacing the motherboard? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Richard Jepsen rpjepsen@gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061113/c05cd5c1/attachment.html From angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au Mon Nov 13 12:18:32 2006 From: angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au (Angus Wallace) Date: Mon Nov 13 12:18:39 2006 Subject: [iBook] 600mhz ibook with no sound out In-Reply-To: <5fb479160611131037p762762efg553ee2da87780cf0@mail.gmail.com> References: <5fb479160611131037p762762efg553ee2da87780cf0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1163449112.4558d318b284b@imp.flinders.edu.au> I suggest you confirm that it is not a software problem. Download a bootable Linux image. This is a cd image that you burn to a disc, and put in your ibook. You then restart it, and it will boot from the cd - starting Linux. This is not so difficult (you need to press a key as it boots to tell the ibook to look at the cd. It might be the 's' key {memory}, right after the reset). A good example to try is http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso NB: NOTE THAT THIS IS A LINK STRAIGHT TO THE FILE. IT'S ABOUT 650 MB!!! if there's no sound there, then it's probably hardware, and I have no further suggestions than taking it to a technician (unless you have an oscilloscope ;-). -Gus Quoting Richard Jepsen : > I have a 600 mhz ibook with no sound. Everything else seems to work. > > I have tried upgrading software, firmware, reset the PMU, checked to make > sure that the speaker cable is properly connected to the motherboard, > checked all the settings and no change. > > When plug in some head phones I get some white noise but nothing else. > > Has anyone else experienced this and fixed it short of replacing the > motherboard? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Richard Jepsen > rpjepsen@gmail.com > From skygram at gmail.com Mon Nov 13 12:40:18 2006 From: skygram at gmail.com (SKYGRAM) Date: Mon Nov 13 12:40:23 2006 Subject: [iBook] 600mhz ibook with no sound out In-Reply-To: <1163449112.4558d318b284b@imp.flinders.edu.au> References: <5fb479160611131037p762762efg553ee2da87780cf0@mail.gmail.com> <1163449112.4558d318b284b@imp.flinders.edu.au> Message-ID: <1c7726e90611131240p580a8ad8j49b7c63cc9b37027@mail.gmail.com> Angus, That is a good approach to troubleshooting difficult iBook problems. I am going to remember that idea. I use Ubuntu regularly on Intel machines. It offers an easy setup and good documentation too. Bill From michaelelliott at mac.com Tue Nov 14 15:09:46 2006 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Tue Nov 14 15:10:08 2006 Subject: [iBook] OT: MacBook (not iBook) speaker problems? Message-ID: <71D83B37-6112-458A-9B30-8F3D4FA95B76@mac.com> I've been a silent reader of this list for a while, back when it was the "P1" list :-) But are there any of the new MacBook readers on here? I seem to recall that the original MacBooks were known to have very poor speaker volume. I'm looking to upgrade to the new MacBooks with the Core 2 Duo processor, but I do a lot of iChat videoconferencing...and was wondering how the speakers are. (Realizing that the MacBook IS a notebook, not a full-size desktop computer, but still wondering if the MacBook's speakers were still comparatively bad). Thanks! From baron58 at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 14 15:51:57 2006 From: baron58 at sbcglobal.net (Jack) Date: Tue Nov 14 15:52:03 2006 Subject: [iBook] OT: MacBook (not iBook) speaker problems? In-Reply-To: <71D83B37-6112-458A-9B30-8F3D4FA95B76@mac.com> References: <71D83B37-6112-458A-9B30-8F3D4FA95B76@mac.com> Message-ID: <455A569D.1050503@sbcglobal.net> Michael Elliott wrote: > I've been a silent reader of this list for a while, back when it was > the "P1" list :-) But are there any of the new MacBook readers on here? > > I seem to recall that the original MacBooks were known to have very > poor speaker volume. I'm looking to upgrade to the new MacBooks with > the Core 2 Duo processor, but I do a lot of iChat > videoconferencing...and was wondering how the speakers are. > (Realizing that the MacBook IS a notebook, not a full-size desktop > computer, but still wondering if the MacBook's speakers were still > comparatively bad). My first MacBook (CoreDuo) had the uncommanded shutdown problem, and very low speaker volume. After replacement of some major components, the volume problem remained and so did the shutdown problem -- to the extent that it shut down two days after return from the Apple repair facility and never worked again. Apple gave me a new MacBook CoreDuo and it has had no problems, but the speaker volume is not what I would like, though slightly better than the first. I cannot comment as to the Core2 Duo units. Since this speaker volume problem is apparently broadly recognized in the original MacBook, I would expect Apple to have done something about it. I do like my MacBook very much -- it is a big step up from my 1.0 GHz 12" iBook, in all respects other than volume. Good luck with your future MacBook. Jack From patdart at cox.net Tue Nov 14 16:16:41 2006 From: patdart at cox.net (Pat) Date: Tue Nov 14 16:16:38 2006 Subject: [iBook] Now What???? Message-ID: Okay, I finally broke down and bought a Simple Tech 160 GB external drive. Until now, I've done all backups on CD's, but now I have the room to backup my iBook, my TiBook and my iMac all on the same drive. But, how to do it as they all run different systems. HELP! Pat "One nice thing about getting older, you don't have to have so many clothes for it." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 440 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061114/44bc6e95/attachment-0001.bin From cornett at gol.com Tue Nov 14 16:42:46 2006 From: cornett at gol.com (Cornett) Date: Tue Nov 14 16:42:59 2006 Subject: [iBook] Re: Now What???? In-Reply-To: <20061115001643.8E763411A6C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061115001643.8E763411A6C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <3e1fc9a8e2e4fdd887f3d2c8e8bd881e@gol.com> Pat, et All G'day!... On Nov 15, 2006, at 09:16 AM, ibook-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:16:41 -0600 > From: Pat Subject: [iBook] Now What???? > To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. > > > Okay, I finally broke down and bought a Simple Tech 160 GB external > drive. Until now, I've done all backups on CD's, but now I have the > room to backup my iBook, my TiBook and my iMac all on the same drive. > But, how to do it as they all run different systems. Simply use Disk Utility to partition(the number and sizes needed) and start using Carbon Copy Cloner to clone each to a separate partition. (*note: unique names applied to each partition in advance of cloneing jobs will help bigtime). HTHs Thought I'd ask while I'm here; Would perchance anyone have a good working Japanese Keyboard for an iBook366se (Firewire) that's just gathering dust that they would consider parting with for $$ cheap + shipping costs?, or perhaps a uRL point-to handy? Off-list Please. TIA Respectful of GURUs Bill Cornett cornett AT gol DOT com "Rust never sleeps."-N. Young / From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Tue Nov 14 17:14:51 2006 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Tue Nov 14 17:15:01 2006 Subject: [iBook] Now What???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <911D4670-ED47-485C-AF48-5153F0FAB431@gmail.com> Make 3 partitions & just back-up your data. You can always re-install the system software then grt your data from your back-up & your ready to go. I put everything in my user folder. Outside my user folder is just Apple system stuff. That way I only need to back-up mu user folder. Saves space & time. --- James Paul Manley http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Pat wrote: > Okay, I finally broke down and bought a Simple Tech 160 GB external > drive. Until now, I've done all backups on CD's, but now I have > the room to backup my iBook, my TiBook and my iMac all on the same > drive. But, how to do it as they all run different systems. > > HELP! > Pat > > "One nice thing about getting older, you don't have to have so many > clothes for it." > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From cmmac at sonic.net Tue Nov 14 18:40:09 2006 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Tue Nov 14 18:42:08 2006 Subject: [iBook] Now What???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 6:16 PM -0600 11/14/06, Pat wrote: >Okay, I finally broke down and bought a Simple Tech 160 GB external >drive. Until now, I've done all backups on CD's, but now I have the >room to backup my iBook, my TiBook and my iMac all on the same >drive. But, how to do it as they all run different systems. I have a 300Gb HD in a FW / USB external case. I use Carbon Copy Cloner and use the option to create a disk image on the target drive. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From bart at orcon.net.nz Tue Nov 14 20:39:14 2006 From: bart at orcon.net.nz (Bart Hanson) Date: Tue Nov 14 20:39:34 2006 Subject: [iBook] Re: Now What??? In-Reply-To: <20061115001643.D1A00411A6D@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061115001643.D1A00411A6D@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Hi, Normally you only need to back up your data and settings, (the OS and applications can be reinstalled) if you have the installer CD's and serial numbers. Free utilities exist like, RSyncX and rdiff-backup but you need command line skills. Cheaper (and in some cases better) Synchronise Pro or SuperDuper. A full bootable backup can be made with the excellent and free "Carbon Copy Cloner" There are many many choices for backup software, but it is best to first decide what you NEED to backup and base your choices on this. Some software requires a "blank" volume to copy to. cheers, Bart Hanson. On 15/11/2006, at 1:16 PM, ibook- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Okay, I finally broke down and bought a Simple Tech 160 GB external > drive. Until now, I've done all backups on CD's, but now I have the > room to backup my iBook, my TiBook and my iMac all on the same drive. > But, how to do it as they all run different systems. > > HELP! > Pat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061115/0e962eda/attachment.html From maclists at kippert.com Wed Nov 15 05:10:00 2006 From: maclists at kippert.com (Mark Kippert) Date: Wed Nov 15 05:10:14 2006 Subject: [iBook] Now What???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87D3744F-D2D6-4C8B-A5DF-D50C0F77D640@kippert.com> As several people have suggested, partition your external into 3 volumes using Apple's Disk Utility. However I would suggest using an excellent utility called SuperDuper (as in duplicating). I've found it to be a more dependable utility for cloning drives (compared to CarbonCopyCloner) and can also be used for free. If you pay the $27 shareware fee it allows you to do Smart backups (incremental) and schedule backups. It makes bootable backups (you can boot FireWire drives only, not USB) and is great for restoring a drive, as I had too recently after sending my PowerBook to Apple to have the optical drive replaced. Oddly, they also replaced my hard drive which was working perfectly. -Mark On Nov 14, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Pat wrote: > Okay, I finally broke down and bought a Simple Tech 160 GB external > drive. Until now, I've done all backups on CD's, but now I have > the room to backup my iBook, my TiBook and my iMac all on the same > drive. But, how to do it as they all run different systems. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061115/321bc6bb/attachment.html From michaelelliott at mac.com Sat Nov 18 14:03:33 2006 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sat Nov 18 14:03:51 2006 Subject: [iBook] OT: MacBook (not iBook) speaker problems? In-Reply-To: <455A569D.1050503@sbcglobal.net> References: <71D83B37-6112-458A-9B30-8F3D4FA95B76@mac.com> <455A569D.1050503@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <04D25EDF-1E3C-4767-9B43-9AB162354569@mac.com> thanks! On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:51 PM, Jack wrote: > Good luck with your future MacBook. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061118/0841a5e9/attachment.html From gooddog at interlync.com Sat Nov 25 19:03:25 2006 From: gooddog at interlync.com (gooddog@interlync.com) Date: Sat Nov 25 18:59:37 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook to new home/17" MBP arriving In-Reply-To: <1163375219.4557b273daa15@imp.flinders.edu.au> References: <1163375219.4557b273daa15@imp.flinders.edu.au> Message-ID: <97F724B0-522E-4D67-BA36-4FF324E72908@interlync.com> Those who remember my message about GarageBand and my friend's kid who will be getting my current iBook for Christmas - [iBook] Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz - (it will be cleaned, keyboard replaced, etc.), will be happy to know this will actually transpire. They are a PC family, and this is their trial run on the Mac. In the meantime, my new MacBook Pro will arrive monday, direct from China. My question is: how in the world do I transfer my contents to the new MBP? What way is recommended? Can a person transfer apps and preferences? Isn't there a way to make a disk image or something like that? I'm assuming you can hook them up and drag and drop, but are there any programs or anything else? I'm clueless. Happy holidays! Kind regards, Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061125/a47759c2/attachment.html From howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz Sat Nov 25 20:25:56 2006 From: howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz (Howard Pettigrew) Date: Sat Nov 25 20:30:16 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook to new home/17" MBP arriving In-Reply-To: <97F724B0-522E-4D67-BA36-4FF324E72908@interlync.com> References: <1163375219.4557b273daa15@imp.flinders.edu.au> <97F724B0-522E-4D67-BA36-4FF324E72908@interlync.com> Message-ID: <57DA6438-B4B2-4510-8382-5B1FF4DE702E@xtra.co.nz> Mark, when you fire up your MacBook Pro, as part of the setup process, it will give you the chance to transfer your data using the Migration Assistant which is a programme to transfer your applications and documents. You'll need a Firewire cable to connect your two laptops - this will need to be the one with two 6 pin connectors at each end - like flattened capital D's in shape- you get these typically with external hard drives, etc. Migration Assistant will ask you to restart the computer holding down the T key (for Target mode) and then it will transfer everything from your old machine onto your new MacBook. Usually takes around 30-45 mins depending on how much is on your iBook. You will end up with an exact copy of your old machine on your new MacBook. It is quite remarkable what sort of job it does. I wouldn't be too quick to give away your iBook before checking everything is okay and has transferred, and with my experience, (and my wife's) expect a few crashes on your new MacBook when you first start using it (I presume this is older software objecting to running under Rosetta on the Intel chips???) but it does settle down after a few weeks of frustration. Hope this is of help Cheers H in NZ On 26/11/2006, at 4:03 PM, gooddog@interlync.com wrote: > Those who remember my message about GarageBand and my friend's kid > who will be getting my current iBook for Christmas - [iBook] > Garageband on iBook 1.2 GHz - (it will be cleaned, keyboard > replaced, etc.), will be happy to know this will actually > transpire. They are a PC family, and this is their trial run on the > Mac. In the meantime, my new MacBook Pro will arrive monday, direct > from China. > > My question is: how in the world do I transfer my contents to the > new MBP? What way is recommended? Can a person transfer apps and > preferences? Isn't there a way to make a disk image or something > like that? > > I'm assuming you can hook them up and drag and drop, but are there > any programs or anything else? I'm clueless. > > Happy holidays! > > Kind regards, > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From gooddog at interlync.com Sun Nov 26 18:02:18 2006 From: gooddog at interlync.com (gooddog@interlync.com) Date: Sun Nov 26 17:58:31 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook to new home/17" MBP arriving In-Reply-To: <57DA6438-B4B2-4510-8382-5B1FF4DE702E@xtra.co.nz> References: <57DA6438-B4B2-4510-8382-5B1FF4DE702E@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Thank you, Howard. This sounds workable. I'll follow the leads as you say. I have the proper FireWire, so I'm half the way there equipment wise. I found some Apple paperwork just a while ago entitled "Transferring Information from Your Previous Computer", and they discuss something very similar that occurs while using the Setup Assistant. I appreciate your help. Best, Mark On Nov 25, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Howard Pettigrew wrote: > Mark, when you fire up your MacBook Pro, as part of the setup > process, it will give you the chance to transfer your data using the > Migration Assistant which is a programme to transfer your > applications and documents. You'll need a Firewire cable to connect > your two laptops - this will need to be the one with two 6 pin > connectors at each end - like flattened capital D's in shape- you get > these typically with external hard drives, etc. Migration Assistant > will ask you to restart the computer holding down the T key (for > Target mode) and then it will transfer everything from your old > machine onto your new MacBook. Usually takes around 30-45 mins > depending on how much is on your iBook. You will end up with an exact > copy of your old machine on your new MacBook. It is quite remarkable > what sort of job it does. I wouldn't be too quick to give away your > iBook before checking everything is okay and has transferred, and > with my experience, (and my wife's) expect a few crashes on your new > MacBook when you first start using it (I presume this is older > software objecting to running under Rosetta on the Intel chips???) > but it does settle down after a few weeks of frustration. > Hope this is of help > Cheers > H in NZ > On 26/11/2006, at 4:03 PM, gooddog@interlync.com wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061126/48273d9d/attachment.html From charlesp at ksu.edu Mon Nov 27 04:45:43 2006 From: charlesp at ksu.edu (charlesp@ksu.edu) Date: Mon Nov 27 04:45:53 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook to new home/17" MBP arriving In-Reply-To: References: <57DA6438-B4B2-4510-8382-5B1FF4DE702E@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <1164631543.456addf7e9f28@webmail.ksu.edu> Quoting gooddog@interlync.com: > Thank you, Howard. This sounds workable. I'll follow the leads as you > say. I have the proper FireWire, so I'm half the way there equipment > wise. > > I found some Apple paperwork just a while ago entitled "Transferring > Information from Your Previous Computer", and they discuss something > very similar that occurs while using the Setup Assistant. > > I appreciate your help. Let me chime in and reinforce using the Migration Assistant. I have used it on at least four occasions and have found it nearly flawless. Even desktop pictures from your old machine to your new machine show up where they were. The sensation of using your old setup on your new computer is wonderful. Everything is in a familiar place, your folders are all just like they were, most of the apps work with the same preferences and everything. If you use Mail, all your mailboxes are transferred with their contents. iTunes looks just like it did on the old machine and on and on. I think it is one of the most unsung and marvelous features of OSX. When I say that it is nearly flawless, I've found that some apps want a serial number (maybe one or two out of hundreds), and some things may not show up, so make sure everything is running on the new machine before wiping the old one. It is, however, the easiest and best way to go from one machine to another. I used it just last week to go from one partition on my G5 to another and it worked wonderfully. Charles Pearce (charlesp@ksu.edu)