From michaelelliott at mac.com Sun Oct 1 21:09:54 2006 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Sun Oct 1 21:10:05 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook G4 sudden loss of battery capacity? Message-ID: <4AAD26CE-4321-49DE-9E0B-DE774313040C@mac.com> My mid-2005 iBook G4 has suffered what I THINK is a precipitous loss of battery charging capacity. At this point it will only show about 20 minutes of charge in the battery menu item, and this is confirmed by real-world usage. Also, the lights on the back of the battery only light up one light with what should be a full charge. During charging, that one light blinks as they always do, but I think that with a "good" battery, it usually blinks all of them during charging? (Now I can't remember). I'm fairly certain that I was gettin reasonable charges (over an hour) before this started a couple of weeks ago. No injuries to the iBook, overheating, etc. noted. But around the time that this started, I noticed full power loss while I was using the iBook on battery power, with no shutdown warnings or anything to suggest that there was about to be a problem. I have tried zapping the PRAM, disconnecting the power adapter for extended periods (clearly the adapter works, since it's able to charge the battery partially), and resetting the power managment unit by holding down shift-control-option-power, letting go, then waiting 5 seconds and then starting the computer. No dice. Any suggestions before I buy a new battery? Now I REALLY wish I had a battery that falls in the recall serial number range! Thanks :-) Michael From jeanpaul at zhenwu.org Mon Oct 2 08:28:55 2006 From: jeanpaul at zhenwu.org (Jean-Paul Thuot) Date: Mon Oct 2 08:29:01 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook G4 sudden loss of battery capacity? In-Reply-To: <4AAD26CE-4321-49DE-9E0B-DE774313040C@mac.com> References: <4AAD26CE-4321-49DE-9E0B-DE774313040C@mac.com> Message-ID: <44eba1290610020828m45b19ca8p33084e521571c799@mail.gmail.com> On 10/1/06, Michael Elliott wrote: > My mid-2005 iBook G4 has suffered what I THINK is a precipitous loss > of battery charging capacity. At this point it will only show about > Any suggestions before I buy a new battery? Now I REALLY wish I had a > battery that falls in the recall serial number range! > > Thanks :-) > > Michael I don't suppose you have Applecare? That does seem very strange. My wife's iBook is about the same age as yours (G4 1.2Ghz), and she still gets over 3 hours of charge. Jean-Paul From victoria.duggan at ntlworld.com Mon Oct 2 10:03:43 2006 From: victoria.duggan at ntlworld.com (VICTORIA.DUGGAN) Date: Mon Oct 2 10:04:02 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook G4 sudden loss of battery capacity? In-Reply-To: <4AAD26CE-4321-49DE-9E0B-DE774313040C@mac.com> References: <4AAD26CE-4321-49DE-9E0B-DE774313040C@mac.com> Message-ID: <33A9AEA7-F4D3-485A-8BE5-9AE118C27F89@ntlworld.com> > > Any suggestions before I buy a new battery? Now I REALLY wish I had > a battery that falls in the recall serial number range! > > Thanks :-) > > Michael I think that it is the way that you use the battery that determines the sort of life you get from it. For example my G4 powerbook battery is 34 months old and is on its 732 cycle for charge and i still get 2 hrs 50 mins from the battery. But my daughters Ti book battery is only 12 months old It is a third party battery that did give over 4hrs when new, and is on its 326 recharge cycle and She only gets 1 hr 15mins from it. I never run my battery down past 20% she always runs hers down to nothing. I let mine charge fully every time she does not. vicki From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 7 11:50:02 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Sat Oct 7 11:50:12 2006 Subject: [iBook] Trackpad button sticking In-Reply-To: <1155471512.26850.268261658@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Suddenly, the trackpad on my wife's dual USB 600 G3 iBook is sticking. She clicks on something, drags it, and when she lets up the button, or clicks again, the "button won't let go." No matter what she does it keeps dragging the item wherever she moves the cursor. The only way she can make it "let go" is to smack the button sharply. We've had this iBook since it was new about 5 years ago, and have never seen this before. There haven't been any software updates recently that could have caused it because she's till back in Jaguar. I also couldn't find anything on the Apple support site, but maybe I'm just not searching correctly. Any ideas? TIA, Brian From tr5374 at csc.albany.edu Sat Oct 7 23:31:46 2006 From: tr5374 at csc.albany.edu (Tom R. no spam) Date: Sat Oct 7 23:31:58 2006 Subject: [iBook] Trackpad button sticking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That sounds like a physical problem, not any software issue. Some units of that vintage had a sticking trackpad problem when new--I had one which was repaired under AppleCare. You can try "clicking" at different places on the trackpad and see if the sticking happens more some place(s) than others; or if it happens more when you click and hold compared to a quick click. If it's been fine for 5 years, though, maybe some dirt, etc has gotten into around the edges? On Sat, 7 Oct 2006, Brian Olesky wrote: > Suddenly, the trackpad on my wife's dual USB 600 G3 iBook is sticking. She > clicks on something, drags it, and when she lets up the button, or clicks > again, the "button won't let go." No matter what she does it keeps dragging > the item wherever she moves the cursor. The only way she can make it "let > go" is to smack the button sharply. We've had this iBook since it was new > about 5 years ago, and have never seen this before. There haven't been any > software updates recently that could have caused it because she's till back > in Jaguar. I also couldn't find anything on the Apple support site, but > maybe I'm just not searching correctly. Any ideas? From mailing.lists.2005 at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 07:05:40 2006 From: mailing.lists.2005 at gmail.com (Steve R) Date: Sun Oct 8 07:06:31 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries Message-ID: My local electronics shop (The Source formerly known as RadioShack) advertises that it rebuilds laptop batteries at a lower cost than buying new. The battery that came with this used iBook dual usb holds about 3 minutes of charge so I do need a replacement. Two questions. How good are rebuilt laptop batteries, and can I continue to use the laptop on ac with the battery missing? Thanks Steve R -- Get the Canadian troops out of Afghanistan now. From kollar at alltel.net Sun Oct 8 09:47:44 2006 From: kollar at alltel.net (Larry Kollar) Date: Sun Oct 8 09:48:00 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <289CC3CA-EAEB-4308-8878-A33838026AC2@alltel.net> Steve R wrote: > My local electronics shop (The Source formerly known as RadioShack) > advertises that it rebuilds laptop batteries at a lower cost than > buying new. The battery that came with this used iBook dual usb > holds about 3 minutes of charge so I do need a replacement. Two > questions. How good are rebuilt laptop batteries, and can I > continue to use the laptop on ac with the battery missing? Presumably they use new cells, so the only old part of the battery should be the shell and the "smarts" that monitor the charge. Unless there are problems with those, a rebuilt battery should literally be good as new. If they offer that service here, I'll have to see if they can rebuild a camera flash battery for me. You can use the laptop without a battery, just keep it plugged in. -- Larry Kollar k o l l a r @ a l l t e l . n e t Unix Text Processing: "UTP Revival" http://unixtext.org/ From brpearce at optonline.net Sun Oct 8 09:57:27 2006 From: brpearce at optonline.net (Brian Pearce) Date: Sun Oct 8 09:57:32 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: <289CC3CA-EAEB-4308-8878-A33838026AC2@alltel.net> References: <289CC3CA-EAEB-4308-8878-A33838026AC2@alltel.net> Message-ID: <4D94F4DC-050C-4768-AA6D-891B584244A0@optonline.net> > If they offer that service here, I'll have to see if they can > rebuild a camera flash battery for me. I don't think the RadioShack stores here in the US offer that service -- this is a seperate Canadian chain that had been authorized to operate under the "Radio Shack" name for many years. (It shouldn't be too difficult to find a vendor willing to do that sort of work, though.) BRIAN PEARCE Red Jacket Press, LLC From jeanpaul at zhenwu.org Sun Oct 8 12:58:12 2006 From: jeanpaul at zhenwu.org (Jean-Paul Thuot) Date: Sun Oct 8 12:58:24 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: <289CC3CA-EAEB-4308-8878-A33838026AC2@alltel.net> References: <289CC3CA-EAEB-4308-8878-A33838026AC2@alltel.net> Message-ID: <44eba1290610081258q29fe8527h2eb2acb48c7225f3@mail.gmail.com> On 10/8/06, Larry Kollar wrote: continue to use the laptop on ac with the battery missing? > > You can use the laptop without a battery, just keep it plugged in. > > -- > Larry Kollar k o l l a r @ a l l t e l . n e t > Unix Text Processing: "UTP Revival" > http://unixtext.org/ I have a G4 Powerbook, and if I take out the battery, it won't start up again, even if it is plugged in. Is there something special I need to do first? Thanks, Jean-Paul From brpearce at optonline.net Sun Oct 8 14:55:36 2006 From: brpearce at optonline.net (Brian Pearce) Date: Sun Oct 8 14:55:48 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: <44eba1290610081258q29fe8527h2eb2acb48c7225f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <289CC3CA-EAEB-4308-8878-A33838026AC2@alltel.net> <44eba1290610081258q29fe8527h2eb2acb48c7225f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3053DC11-A58D-40E5-BA07-9947DCB4A2B5@optonline.net> > I have a G4 Powerbook, and if I take out the battery, it won't start > up again, even if it is plugged in. Is there something special I need > to do first? Assuming there's a motherboard battery in this particular model, it probably needs to be replaced. It may be something you can handle, depending on your level of expertise, but it's probably best left to an authorized repair facility. BRIAN PEARCE Red Jacket Press, LLC From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 15:36:06 2006 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Sun Oct 8 15:36:17 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: <3053DC11-A58D-40E5-BA07-9947DCB4A2B5@optonline.net> References: <289CC3CA-EAEB-4308-8878-A33838026AC2@alltel.net> <44eba1290610081258q29fe8527h2eb2acb48c7225f3@mail.gmail.com> <3053DC11-A58D-40E5-BA07-9947DCB4A2B5@optonline.net> Message-ID: <0E097D5F-27C5-45A2-B482-AE4255233282@gmail.com> It doesn't. All powerbooks I ibooks don't have a pram battery, they relay on the battery for mobil use. --- James Paul Manley http://www.geocities.com/jim_p_manley/index.html http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html On Oct 8, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Brian Pearce wrote: >> I have a G4 Powerbook, and if I take out the battery, it won't start >> up again, even if it is plugged in. Is there something special I >> need >> to do first? > > Assuming there's a motherboard battery in this particular model, it > probably needs to be replaced. It may be something you can handle, > depending on your level of expertise, but it's probably best left > to an authorized repair facility. > > BRIAN PEARCE > Red Jacket Press, LLC > > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Sun Oct 8 16:02:10 2006 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Sun Oct 8 16:02:29 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: <0E097D5F-27C5-45A2-B482-AE4255233282@gmail.com> Message-ID: > It doesn't. All powerbooks I ibooks don't have a pram battery, they > relay on the battery for mobil use. iBooks don't, Powerbooks DO. At least in every one that I have ever worked on. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From george55 at contact.net Mon Oct 9 15:54:37 2006 From: george55 at contact.net (George) Date: Mon Oct 9 15:56:18 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook Display Angle Problem In-Reply-To: <0BF14E23-826F-4720-93A7-A927F02A5F9F@interlync.com> References: <81D68317-99AB-4544-8603-127A24EB8ECF@interlync.com> <0BF14E23-826F-4720-93A7-A927F02A5F9F@interlync.com> Message-ID: <21b514fc2a1e96e8f92cb34721daa3d6@contact.net> Hello! A local seller claims this is the issue (and solution) with their Apple iBook 800 MHz Display 12.1" TFT XGA : Quote: there is only a Problem with the screen display , when you move the screen more/less that angle of 90 degrees the screen comes in black, but anyway you can use the computer without problem, i already check this problem with apple and is a fabrication problem with this model to fix this you need to pay around 80$ Unquote Question: is this really the problem/solution? Thx G. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 593 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061009/ed20b105/attachment.bin From tr5374 at csc.albany.edu Mon Oct 9 16:14:14 2006 From: tr5374 at csc.albany.edu (Tom R. no spam) Date: Mon Oct 9 16:14:25 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook Display Angle Problem In-Reply-To: <21b514fc2a1e96e8f92cb34721daa3d6@contact.net> References: <81D68317-99AB-4544-8603-127A24EB8ECF@interlync.com> <0BF14E23-826F-4720-93A7-A927F02A5F9F@interlync.com> <21b514fc2a1e96e8f92cb34721daa3d6@contact.net> Message-ID: sounds like the video cable to the LCD failing, or the logic board (video controller?) failing, both well-known problems. Take a look at the Apple website page about logic board replacement program (now expired). On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, George wrote: . . . > there is only a Problem with the screen display , when you move the > screen more/less that angle of 90 degrees the screen comes in black, > but anyway you can use the computer without problem, i already check > this problem with apple and is a fabrication problem with this model to > fix this you need to pay around 80$ > Unquote > > Question: is this really the problem/solution? . . . From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Mon Oct 9 16:20:23 2006 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Mon Oct 9 16:20:37 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook Display Angle Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > sounds like the video cable to the LCD failing, or the > logic board (video controller?) failing, both well-known > problems. Take a look at the Apple website page about > logic board replacement program (now expired). >> there is only a Problem with the screen display , when you move the >> screen more/less that angle of 90 degrees the screen comes in black, >> but anyway you can use the computer without problem, i already check >> this problem with apple and is a fabrication problem with this model to >> fix this you need to pay around 80$ >> Unquote >> >> Question: is this really the problem/solution? Sounds far more like the common bad inverter cable problem and the repair quote sounds about right in my view. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From rshefner_uk at yahoo.com Sun Oct 22 11:19:29 2006 From: rshefner_uk at yahoo.com (R Hefner) Date: Sun Oct 22 11:19:35 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061022181929.1627.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> Hiya all, I am looking at getting a new iPod shuffle or possibly a nano, but unfortunately I found out they only work with USB 2.0 and my iBook is a G3 with USB 1.1. Can't afford to upgrade the Mac right now...but I have a PC with USB 2.0. Could I use the PC to upload mp3s for now and then still use the iPod with a Mac in the future. In a nutshell...will the same iPod work with a Mac and Windows or are they two different models? The second problem is that the Windows machine is pretty old (I've added the USB 2 card) and is running Windows 98 SE....can the new iPods be made to work with this OS...Apple site says no. Any other ideas on how I can get a iPod working for me preferably with my iBook without buying a new computer? Cheers! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeanpaul at zhenwu.org Sun Oct 22 11:40:42 2006 From: jeanpaul at zhenwu.org (Jean-Paul Thuot) Date: Sun Oct 22 11:40:46 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: References: <0E097D5F-27C5-45A2-B482-AE4255233282@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44eba1290610221140p5a989c52g9feb359655357312@mail.gmail.com> On 10/8/06, Malcolm Cornelius wrote: > > It doesn't. All powerbooks I ibooks don't have a pram battery, they > > relay on the battery for mobil use. > > iBooks don't, Powerbooks DO. > > At least in every one that I have ever worked on. So, what you're saying is that if I take the battery out to get it rebuilt, I'm going to be offline until I get the battery back? That's a pity. I just stopped in at The Source, and the guy said a rebuilt cost CDN$180. Jean-Paul From parker at stlouissedans.com Sun Oct 22 14:07:36 2006 From: parker at stlouissedans.com (Keith Parker) Date: Sun Oct 22 14:07:48 2006 Subject: [iBook] Was:iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem (R Hefner) In-Reply-To: <20061022181938.EA14830E945@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061022181938.EA14830E945@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <25EEA7C4-5FA1-49CD-9209-3E762F744375@stlouissedans.com> Hi R Hefner, I have about a 4 year old iBook dual usb, and it works fine with my Nano, we had to add a usb 2 pci card to my wife's old G4 "PCI Graphics" for her Nano to charge properly. just my $.02 parkerdude On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:19 PM, ibook- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:19:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: R Hefner > Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem > To: ibook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Message-ID: <20061022181929.1627.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Hiya all, > > I am looking at getting a new iPod shuffle or possibly > a nano, but unfortunately I found > out they only work with USB 2.0 and my iBook is a G3 > with USB 1.1. Can't afford to > upgrade the Mac right now...but I have a PC with USB > 2.0. Could I use the PC to upload > mp3s for now and then still use the iPod with a Mac in > the future. In a nutshell...will > the same iPod work with a Mac and Windows or are they > two different models? > > The second problem is that the Windows machine is > pretty old (I've added the USB 2 card) > and is running Windows 98 SE....can the new iPods be > made to work with this OS...Apple > site says no. > > Any other ideas on how I can get a iPod working for me > preferably with my iBook without buying a new > computer? > > Cheers! From cmmac at sonic.net Sun Oct 22 17:57:41 2006 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Sun Oct 22 17:59:20 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem In-Reply-To: <20061022181929.1627.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061022181929.1627.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 11:19 AM -0700 10/22/06, R Hefner wrote: >Hiya all, > >I am looking at getting a new iPod shuffle or possibly >a nano, but unfortunately I found >out they only work with USB 2.0 and my iBook is a G3 >with USB 1.1. Can't afford to >upgrade the Mac right now...but I have a PC with USB >2.0. Could I use the PC to upload >mp3s for now and then still use the iPod with a Mac in >the future. In a nutshell...will >the same iPod work with a Mac and Windows or are they >two different models? Two of my daughters and I have Nanos and my wife has a Shuffle. While my Nano is used with my iBook G4 w/ USB 2.0, the girls' computers are both G3 iMacs w/ USB 1.1. The work quite well on the iMacs. They are slower to transfer of course and I believe slower to charge. My wife's Shuttle is connected to her Wallstreet with a USB 2.0 card plugged in. IIRC there is a note about the Shuttle needing either USB 2.0 or OS 10.3.something. But, yeah, you can do it without USB 2.0. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 22 18:06:23 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Sun Oct 22 18:06:33 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem In-Reply-To: <20061022181929.1627.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 10/22/06 11:19 AM, "R Hefner" wrote: > Hiya all, > > I am looking at getting a new iPod shuffle or possibly > a nano, but unfortunately I found > out they only work with USB 2.0 and my iBook is a G3 > with USB 1.1. Can't you use firewire? My old iPod came with firewire connections, and that works fine. Or do the new iPods no longer use firewire? From charlesp at ksu.edu Sun Oct 22 18:26:49 2006 From: charlesp at ksu.edu (charlesp@ksu.edu) Date: Sun Oct 22 18:26:53 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1161566809.453c1a598830b@webmail.ksu.edu> Quoting Brian Olesky : > On 10/22/06 11:19 AM, "R Hefner" wrote: > > > Hiya all, > > > > I am looking at getting a new iPod shuffle or possibly > > a nano, but unfortunately I found > > out they only work with USB 2.0 and my iBook is a G3 > > with USB 1.1. > > > Can't you use firewire? My old iPod came with firewire connections, > and that > works fine. Or do the new iPods no longer use firewire? The new ones can CHARGE through firewire, but can only synch to iTunes through USB. Charles Pearce From jkcorcor at cox.net Sun Oct 22 19:43:06 2006 From: jkcorcor at cox.net (Jack Corcoran) Date: Sun Oct 22 19:43:15 2006 Subject: [iBook] Re: iBook Digest, Vol 26, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <20061022181938.C98F030E944@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 10/22/06 2:19 PM, "ibook-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com" wrote: > Send iBook mailing list submissions to > ibook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ibook-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ibook-owner@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of iBook digest..." > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > _______________________________________________ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. rebuilt batteries (Steve R) > 2. Re: rebuilt batteries (Larry Kollar) > 3. Re: rebuilt batteries (Brian Pearce) > 4. Re: Re: [iBook] rebuilt batteries (Jean-Paul Thuot) > 5. Re: rebuilt batteries (Brian Pearce) > 6. Re: rebuilt batteries (James Paul Manley) > 7. Re: rebuilt batteries (Malcolm Cornelius) > 8. iBook Display Angle Problem (George) > 9. Re: iBook Display Angle Problem (Tom R. no spam) > 10. Re: iBook Display Angle Problem (Malcolm Cornelius) > 11. iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem (R Hefner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 10:05:40 -0400 > From: Steve R > Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > My local electronics shop (The Source formerly known as RadioShack) > advertises that it rebuilds laptop batteries at a lower cost than > buying new. The battery that came with this used iBook dual usb holds > about 3 minutes of charge so I do need a replacement. Two questions. > How good are rebuilt laptop batteries, and can I continue to use the > laptop on ac with the battery missing? > > Thanks > Steve R Steve, I've had good luck with rebuilt batteries for laptops from: Battery Boys Specialty Battery Company, 17-510 Circle Drive, East, Saskatoon, SK, Canada, S7K 7C7 Email: Circle@batteryboys.com (306) 668 4653 (800) 387 6937 I don't know whether they rebuild batteries for iBooks but it might be worth an inquiry. Good luck, Jack C. From brpearce at optonline.net Sun Oct 22 20:52:23 2006 From: brpearce at optonline.net (Brian Pearce) Date: Sun Oct 22 20:53:40 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: <44eba1290610221140p5a989c52g9feb359655357312@mail.gmail.com> References: <0E097D5F-27C5-45A2-B482-AE4255233282@gmail.com> <44eba1290610221140p5a989c52g9feb359655357312@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7C1E0072-3F7D-4D50-A2A6-8531AFA1BF8B@optonline.net> > So, what you're saying is that if I take the battery out to get it > rebuilt, I'm going to be offline until I get the battery back? That's > a pity. No, but you do have to be plugged in, of course. And if you disconnect the power, you'll have to reset some of the settings. BRIAN PEARCE Red Jacket Press, LLC From jeanpaul at zhenwu.org Sun Oct 22 22:08:55 2006 From: jeanpaul at zhenwu.org (Jean-Paul Thuot) Date: Sun Oct 22 22:08:59 2006 Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries In-Reply-To: <7C1E0072-3F7D-4D50-A2A6-8531AFA1BF8B@optonline.net> References: <0E097D5F-27C5-45A2-B482-AE4255233282@gmail.com> <44eba1290610221140p5a989c52g9feb359655357312@mail.gmail.com> <7C1E0072-3F7D-4D50-A2A6-8531AFA1BF8B@optonline.net> Message-ID: <44eba1290610222208oc1b020fvf8bfeff87f4c293e@mail.gmail.com> On 10/22/06, Brian Pearce wrote: > > So, what you're saying is that if I take the battery out to get it > > rebuilt, I'm going to be offline until I get the battery back? That's > > a pity. > > No, but you do have to be plugged in, of course. And if you > disconnect the power, you'll have to reset some of the settings. Hmmm. I am connected to power, but with no battery the computer will not boot up. What am I doing wrong? Jean-Paul From rshefner_uk at yahoo.com Sun Oct 22 22:10:53 2006 From: rshefner_uk at yahoo.com (R Hefner) Date: Sun Oct 22 22:10:56 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061023051053.73998.qmail@web54613.mail.yahoo.com> Clark Martin wrote: At 11:19 AM -0700 10/22/06, R Hefner wrote: >Hiya all, > >I am looking at getting a new iPod shuffle or possibly >a nano, but unfortunately I found >out they only work with USB 2.0 and my iBook is a G3 >with USB 1.1. Can't afford to >upgrade the Mac right now...but I have a PC with USB >2.0. Could I use the PC to upload >mp3s for now and then still use the iPod with a Mac in >the future. In a nutshell...will >the same iPod work with a Mac and Windows or are they >two different models? Two of my daughters and I have Nanos and my wife has a Shuffle. While my Nano is used with my iBook G4 w/ USB 2.0, the girls' computers are both G3 iMacs w/ USB 1.1. The work quite well on the iMacs. They are slower to transfer of course and I believe slower to charge. My wife's Shuttle is connected to her Wallstreet with a USB 2.0 card plugged in. IIRC there is a note about the Shuttle needing either USB 2.0 or OS 10.3.something. But, yeah, you can do it without USB 2.0. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" Thanks for the replies everyone! Clark, So it sounds like I could use a Nano on my G3 iBook with USB 1.1 if your daughters are using theirs on the iMacs you mention. Are these the newest gen. Nanos? I'm assuming all the iPods would "say" they need USB 2.0. For the purpose of making trnasfers/charge faster, is there anything I can get/do to make the USB 1.1 port on my iBook a USB 2.0? Many thanks, Ronda --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061022/868aa21b/attachment-0001.html From rshefner_uk at yahoo.com Sun Oct 22 22:15:44 2006 From: rshefner_uk at yahoo.com (R Hefner) Date: Sun Oct 22 22:15:51 2006 Subject: [iBook] Was:iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem (R Hefner) In-Reply-To: <25EEA7C4-5FA1-49CD-9209-3E762F744375@stlouissedans.com> Message-ID: <20061023051544.94874.qmail@web54603.mail.yahoo.com> Hiya Keith, Is your iBook USB 1.1 and G3? My G3 iBook is from 2002. Thanks for the help, Ronda Keith Parker wrote: Hi R Hefner, I have about a 4 year old iBook dual usb, and it works fine with my Nano, we had to add a usb 2 pci card to my wife's old G4 "PCI Graphics" for her Nano to charge properly. just my $.02 parkerdude On Oct 22, 2006, at 1:19 PM, ibook- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:19:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: R Hefner > Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem > To: ibook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Message-ID: <20061022181929.1627.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Hiya all, > > I am looking at getting a new iPod shuffle or possibly > a nano, but unfortunately I found > out they only work with USB 2.0 and my iBook is a G3 > with USB 1.1. Can't afford to > upgrade the Mac right now...but I have a PC with USB > 2.0. Could I use the PC to upload > mp3s for now and then still use the iPod with a Mac in > the future. In a nutshell...will > the same iPod work with a Mac and Windows or are they > two different models? > > The second problem is that the Windows machine is > pretty old (I've added the USB 2 card) > and is running Windows 98 SE....can the new iPods be > made to work with this OS...Apple > site says no. > > Any other ideas on how I can get a iPod working for me > preferably with my iBook without buying a new > computer? > > Cheers! _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1?/min. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20061022/461cda15/attachment.html From cmmac at sonic.net Sun Oct 22 22:41:47 2006 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Sun Oct 22 22:46:20 2006 Subject: [iBook] iBook with USB 1.1 and iPod problem In-Reply-To: <20061023051053.73998.qmail@web54613.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061023051053.73998.qmail@web54613.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: At 10:10 PM -0700 10/22/06, R Hefner wrote: >Clark Martin wrote: > > >Two of my daughters and I have Nanos and my wife has a Shuffle. >While my Nano is used with my iBook G4 w/ USB 2.0, the girls' >computers are both G3 iMacs w/ USB 1.1. The work quite well on the >iMacs. They are slower to transfer of course and I believe slower to >charge. > >My wife's Shuttle is connected to her Wallstreet with a USB 2.0 card >plugged in. IIRC there is a note about the Shuttle needing either >USB 2.0 or OS 10.3.something. > >But, yeah, you can do it without USB 2.0. > >Thanks for the replies everyone! > >Clark, >So it sounds like I could use a Nano on my G3 iBook with USB 1.1 if >your daughters are using theirs on the iMacs you mention. Are these >the newest gen. Nanos? I'm assuming all the iPods would "say" they >need USB 2.0. 1st Gen Nanos. > >For the purpose of making trnasfers/charge faster, is there anything >I can get/do to make the USB 1.1 port on my iBook a USB 2.0? No. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From parkblue at gmx.net Tue Oct 24 10:24:09 2006 From: parkblue at gmx.net (Tobias) Date: Tue Oct 24 10:24:34 2006 Subject: [iBook] Battery source? (was: rebuilt batteries) In-Reply-To: <20061022181938.C98F030E944@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Short of trying to have the battery rebuild (mine lasts about 10 min longer than Steve's - ha!), does anyone have a source recommendation for dual usb iBook batteries? TIA, Tobias > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 10:05:40 -0400 > From: Steve R > Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries > > My local electronics shop (The Source formerly known as RadioShack) > advertises that it rebuilds laptop batteries at a lower cost than > buying new. The battery that came with this used iBook dual usb holds > about 3 minutes of charge so I do need a replacement. Two questions. > How good are rebuilt laptop batteries, and can I continue to use the > laptop on ac with the battery missing? > > Thanks > Steve R From briang113 at pacbell.net Tue Oct 24 11:08:36 2006 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Tue Oct 24 11:08:42 2006 Subject: [iBook] Battery source? (was: rebuilt batteries) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got a generic( no white cover on the battery) for my Dual usb ibook from ebay about 2 years ago and i worked great 3 + hours per charge. You could try there see if they still sell them. Sorry i do not remember the sellers name, he was selling a lot of batteries if that helps. Brian iBook G4 1.33 GHz 1.25 GB RAM On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Tobias wrote: > Short of trying to have the battery rebuild (mine lasts about 10 > min longer > than Steve's - ha!), does anyone have a source recommendation for > dual usb > iBook batteries? > > TIA, > Tobias > >> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 10:05:40 -0400 >> From: Steve R >> Subject: [iBook] rebuilt batteries >> >> My local electronics shop (The Source formerly known as RadioShack) >> advertises that it rebuilds laptop batteries at a lower cost than >> buying new. The battery that came with this used iBook dual usb holds >> about 3 minutes of charge so I do need a replacement. Two questions. >> How good are rebuilt laptop batteries, and can I continue to use the >> laptop on ac with the battery missing? >> >> Thanks >> Steve R > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From brpearce at optonline.net Tue Oct 24 13:18:55 2006 From: brpearce at optonline.net (Brian Pearce) Date: Tue Oct 24 13:19:06 2006 Subject: [iBook] Battery source? (was: rebuilt batteries) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1328BC1A-4DC2-4437-AAAB-54E780CB8E6F@optonline.net> > Short of trying to have the battery rebuild (mine lasts about 10 > min longer > than Steve's - ha!), does anyone have a source recommendation for > dual usb > iBook batteries? I prefer the Newertech batteries: . They have extra capacity, and allow you to return your old batteries for recycling. BRIAN PEARCE Red Jacket Press, LLC From buddy at brannan.name Wed Oct 25 16:55:10 2006 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Wed Oct 25 16:55:21 2006 Subject: [iBook] Anyone need most of an iBook G3/500? Message-ID: <36DDEFAE-6495-41ED-A003-B4F1A8CA3B85@brannan.name> Hi y'all, I've been sort of lurking... Anyway, about a year and a half ago, I got an iBook dual USB off eBay, mostly because I wanted to play with Tiger generally and Voiceover in particular. Well, as it happens, this machine's just a bit too slow running Voiceover and what-not for me to comfortably use; which is to say, I'll be getting a faster one sometime. Meantime, If anyone needs the better part of one of these, I'd let this one go pretty cheap, including a copy of OSX Tiger (full DVD). The reason I say most of a system is this, and why someone could get a good deal. The track pad doesn't seem to click. The button presses, but while the mouse cursor moves, it ddoesn't seem to click. I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the lid doesn't latch, either. Both of these things did work, but now they don't. Probably easy for someone, but not for me, and I really didn't notice until I thought about unloading this thing and having someone check. Since I'm blind (which is why I was using Voiceover), I had no reason to use the mouse or complain about its unresponsiveness. That said, this machine's got 320 MB RAM, a 20GB hard drive, combo drive ($X CD burner/24X CDROM/I dunno what speed it plays DVD's at), Airport card, ethernet and modem. Also an after-market battery charger, and the battery, last I used it, lasted well over three hours with the power savings set to "better energy savings". Mind you, this is with the audio going nonstop (because it was talking). Of course, the case has some rough edges from the previous owner. Also, the i key feels a bit crooked, but all the keys work anyway. Far as I can tell, and I'm typing on it now, those (with the latch and the mouse button issue) are the only gotchas with this thing. It will come to you with a fresh install of OSX, so you don't have to deal with all the junk I had on it. Else I can just wipe the thing and let you do your own install. Whichever. Knowing how much of a show stopper the whole mouse thing can be for people, I was looking to get around $150. Well, maybe *way* around. Not sure how unreasonable this is, so someone can feel free to make an offer if you need pieces and parts. Since it seems to be a big deal on eBay for some reason, I cound two rubber stoppers on the LCD panel and four rubber feet on the bottom. Thanks, -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV : Executive In Training! Watkins Manager #361534 Shop our catalog of timeless Watkins products at www.tastyshop.net And see how becoming a Watkins associate will improve your family's quality of life at www.tastybiz.com From henrytaylor at att.net Wed Oct 25 18:21:28 2006 From: henrytaylor at att.net (G Henry Taylor) Date: Wed Oct 25 18:21:47 2006 Subject: [iBook] Anyone need most of an iBook G3/500? In-Reply-To: <36DDEFAE-6495-41ED-A003-B4F1A8CA3B85@brannan.name> References: <36DDEFAE-6495-41ED-A003-B4F1A8CA3B85@brannan.name> Message-ID: <17bf23eaf3097920ebc40da9a860f21a@att.net> On Oct 25, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi y'all, > > I've been sort of lurking... > > Anyway, about a year and a half ago, I got an iBook dual USB off eBay, > mostly because I wanted to play with Tiger generally and Voiceover in > particular. Well, as it happens, this machine's just a bit too slow > running Voiceover and what-not for me to comfortably use; which is to > say, I'll be getting a faster one sometime. Meantime, If anyone needs > the better part of one of these, I'd let this one go pretty cheap, > including a copy of OSX Tiger (full DVD). > > The reason I say most of a system is this, and why someone could get a > good deal. The track pad doesn't seem to click. The button presses, > but while the mouse cursor moves, it ddoesn't seem to click. I suspect > it has something to do with the fact that the lid doesn't latch, > either. Both of these things did work, but now they don't. Probably > easy for someone, but not for me, and I really didn't notice until I > thought about unloading this thing and having someone check. Since I'm > blind (which is why I was using Voiceover), I had no reason to use the > mouse or complain about its unresponsiveness. > > That said, this machine's got 320 MB RAM, a 20GB hard drive, combo > drive ($X CD burner/24X CDROM/I dunno what speed it plays DVD's at), > Airport card, ethernet and modem. Also an after-market battery > charger, and the battery, last I used it, lasted well over three hours > with the power savings set to "better energy savings". Mind you, this > is with the audio going nonstop (because it was talking). > > Of course, the case has some rough edges from the previous owner. > Also, the i key feels a bit crooked, but all the keys work anyway. Far > as I can tell, and I'm typing on it now, those (with the latch and the > mouse button issue) are the only gotchas with this thing. > > It will come to you with a fresh install of OSX, so you don't have to > deal with all the junk I had on it. Else I can just wipe the thing and > let you do your own install. Whichever. > > Knowing how much of a show stopper the whole mouse thing can be for > people, I was looking to get around $150. Well, maybe *way* around. > Not sure how unreasonable this is, so someone can feel free to make an > offer if you need pieces and parts. Since it seems to be a big deal on > eBay for some reason, I cound two rubber stoppers on the LCD panel and > four rubber feet on the bottom. > > Thanks, > > > Buddy. if you still have the iBook, I'd like to get it. Henry Taylor henrytaylor@att.net From angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au Wed Oct 25 18:57:17 2006 From: angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au (Angus Wallace) Date: Wed Oct 25 18:57:27 2006 Subject: [iBook] Anyone need most of an iBook G3/500? In-Reply-To: <36DDEFAE-6495-41ED-A003-B4F1A8CA3B85@brannan.name> References: <36DDEFAE-6495-41ED-A003-B4F1A8CA3B85@brannan.name> Message-ID: <1161827837.454015fdf1a41@imp.flinders.edu.au> Without wanting to be provoking, if I was interested in an iBook, I wouldn't buy this. It's nothing personal, but such a purchase would leave the buyer very vulnerable. I don't want to impugn your character, Buddy Brannan, but the list doesn't really know anything about you. I think it'd be foolish to buy the ibook, and I'd question why you don't put it on ebay, where there is at least a modicum of protection for both buyers and sellers... Regards, -Angus Quoting Buddy Brannan : > Hi y'all, > > I've been sort of lurking... > > Anyway, about a year and a half ago, I got an iBook dual USB off > eBay, mostly because I wanted to play with Tiger generally and > Voiceover in particular. Well, as it happens, this machine's just a > bit too slow running Voiceover and what-not for me to comfortably > use; which is to say, I'll be getting a faster one sometime. > Meantime, If anyone needs the better part of one of these, I'd let > this one go pretty cheap, including a copy of OSX Tiger (full DVD). > > The reason I say most of a system is this, and why someone could get > a good deal. The track pad doesn't seem to click. The button presses, > but while the mouse cursor moves, it ddoesn't seem to click. I > suspect it has something to do with the fact that the lid doesn't > latch, either. Both of these things did work, but now they don't. > Probably easy for someone, but not for me, and I really didn't notice > until I thought about unloading this thing and having someone check. > Since I'm blind (which is why I was using Voiceover), I had no reason > to use the mouse or complain about its unresponsiveness. > > That said, this machine's got 320 MB RAM, a 20GB hard drive, combo > drive ($X CD burner/24X CDROM/I dunno what speed it plays DVD's at), > Airport card, ethernet and modem. Also an after-market battery > charger, and the battery, last I used it, lasted well over three > hours with the power savings set to "better energy savings". Mind > you, this is with the audio going nonstop (because it was talking). > > Of course, the case has some rough edges from the previous owner. > Also, the i key feels a bit crooked, but all the keys work anyway. > Far as I can tell, and I'm typing on it now, those (with the latch > and the mouse button issue) are the only gotchas with this thing. > > It will come to you with a fresh install of OSX, so you don't have to > deal with all the junk I had on it. Else I can just wipe the thing > and let you do your own install. Whichever. > > Knowing how much of a show stopper the whole mouse thing can be for > people, I was looking to get around $150. Well, maybe *way* around. > Not sure how unreasonable this is, so someone can feel free to make > an offer if you need pieces and parts. Since it seems to be a big > deal on eBay for some reason, I cound two rubber stoppers on the LCD > panel and four rubber feet on the bottom. > > Thanks, > > > > > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV : Executive In Training! Watkins Manager #361534 > Shop our catalog of timeless Watkins products at www.tastyshop.net > And see how becoming a Watkins associate will improve your family's > quality of life at www.tastybiz.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From buddy at brannan.name Wed Oct 25 21:11:01 2006 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Wed Oct 25 21:12:03 2006 Subject: [iBook] Anyone need most of an iBook G3/500? In-Reply-To: <1161827837.454015fdf1a41@imp.flinders.edu.au> References: <36DDEFAE-6495-41ED-A003-B4F1A8CA3B85@brannan.name> <1161827837.454015fdf1a41@imp.flinders.edu.au> Message-ID: <20061026041101.GA4383@dalek> Hi Angus, Thank you for your note. Naturally, you're entitled to your opinion, and like you, I'd certainly exercise caution in any dealings done with anyone, online or off. No, of course you don't know anything about me, but if this is something you might be interested in (and clearly it isn't), I'm happy to chat with you at any length to put your mind at ease. Come to that, I'm happy to chat with you anyway. It's easy enough to find out anything you want to know about me; I've nothing to hide, not even a chequered past. I'm even listed in the Erie, PA phonebook. As for why I didn't list on eBay, it's something I considered. But don't kid yourself. While there are certainly protections, it's not only possible to get scammed, but not even uncommon, so you're certainly not in a foolproof sort of thing just by virtue of using eBay. It's no accident that lots of strange stuff shows up from lots of stranger places. Buyer beware, always. Anyway, if I was going to scam someone, wouldn't I do so by listing a better iBook? I really don't know how much more up front I could have been about this one's condition. Heck, i'm not even looking to get rich off it...it's going for quite a bit less than i paid for it (off eBay, BTW). As a point of interest, if you're actually interested, it's been spoken for. And I told the gentleman who's interested he could feel free to use Paypal if he so chose, so he's as protected should I decide to scam him and send him a box of rocks instead of the described iBook. Finally, should anyone actually want to verify that I'm not a front man for some guy in nigeria, or that I'm not in the habit of sending people a box of rocks, please feel free. In the spirit of goodwill and open discussion, feel free to phone: (814) 860-3194 This is the phone number you will find listed to me in the Erie telephone directory. One wonders if others would be as open? The anonymity of the Internet is, after all, a two-way street, a double-edged sword, pick your favorite analogy. Thank you for your indulgence. (BTW, I'm typing this on my Linux machine. I'm going to reformat the iBook tomorrow, then replace it with a box of rocks.) -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV: Executive In Training! Independent Watkins Manager #361534 Shop our catalog of over 350 products for your home and health...and check out \our fabulous 2006 Holiday Gift and Entertaining Line! http://www.tastyshop.net ...And see how a Watkins business can improve your life in our free Ebook: http://www.tastybiz.com From labruce at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 01:00:27 2006 From: labruce at gmail.com (Laura Bruce) Date: Thu Oct 26 01:07:47 2006 Subject: [iBook] WiFi security on iBook? Message-ID: Hi there. Interesting show on BBC3 last night exposed the vulnerablity of computers due to their wireless internet signals. They drove a van up outside a house, and picked up everything from the guy's ebay purchases to his confirmation of a holiday booked online -- showing exactly when the house would be vacant! How vulnerable are G4 iBooks? I am running OS X 10.3.9, but wonder if regular software updates have been sufficient to protect my computer. My network does not require a password, and file sharing is turned off. Ta, Laura From buddy at brannan.name Thu Oct 26 07:56:28 2006 From: buddy at brannan.name (Buddy Brannan) Date: Thu Oct 26 07:58:07 2006 Subject: [iBook] WiFi security on iBook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061026145628.GB8925@dalek> Howdy, As far as the wireless network is concerned, it's not so much to do with the security of your computer (which just determines if it can be hacked into and if people can do nasty things to/with it), but rather the security of the data between your computer and your router. If your wireless access doesn't require some sort of password, I expect it's probably also unencrypted. I would recommend that you employ some form of encryption on your wireless connection. In your router, turn on either WEP or WPA PSK encryption. Because Windows' WPA support seems a bit flaky, I've got my network set for WEP at 128-bit encryption. You would also be well advised to turn off your SSID broadcast. The SSID broadcast puts the name of your network out so that anyone can see what your network's name is and try to connect. Of course, turning on encryption (so your data isn't being transmitted in the clear) and turning off your SSID broadcast (so people can't just accidentally see your network) isn't 100%. Nothing is. But it's better by far than having your network wide open, for sure. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV: Executive In Training! Independent Watkins Manager #361534 Shop our catalog of over 350 products for your home and health...and check out \our fabulous 2006 Holiday Gift and Entertaining Line! http://www.tastyshop.net ...And see how a Watkins business can improve your life in our free Ebook: http://www.tastybiz.com From baron58 at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 26 08:11:05 2006 From: baron58 at sbcglobal.net (Jack) Date: Thu Oct 26 08:11:19 2006 Subject: [iBook] WiFi security on iBook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4540D009.3050504@sbcglobal.net> Laura Bruce wrote: > Interesting show on BBC3 last night exposed the vulnerablity > of computers due to their wireless internet signals. They drove a van > up outside a house, and picked up everything from the guy's ebay > purchases to his confirmation of a holiday booked online -- showing > exactly when the house would be vacant! > > How vulnerable are G4 iBooks? I am running OS X 10.3.9, but wonder if > regular software updates have been sufficient to protect my computer. > > My network does not require a password, and file sharing is turned off. Laura, That you have an open network is surprising. I recently made my Apple Airport wireless network 100 times less vulnerable by increasing the password complexity. It is easy to establish that first line of defense, and I encourage you to do so. Experts here can explain to you the additional security features of your Mac, but why not use all of them, beginning with a password-protected network? I see no reason why an iBook would be more or less vulnerable than any other model, but perhaps others will enlighten us both on that score. Jack From nevett at tequis.com.mx Fri Oct 27 09:14:56 2006 From: nevett at tequis.com.mx (Peter Nevett) Date: Fri Oct 27 09:15:33 2006 Subject: [iBook] WiFi security on iBook? In-Reply-To: <4540D009.3050504@sbcglobal.net> References: <4540D009.3050504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <123a534f90fa80707ffa08488782d538@tequis.com.mx> I have a G4 iBook with an Airport Extreme card which works perfectly with all the wireless networks I have encountered. My wife's Clamshell G3 iBook has an "old" Airport card (not Airport Extreme). If I turn on WEP encryption on my wireless router, the G4 continues to work but the G3 cannot communicate. Do all Airport cards support WEP encryption? Pete On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Jack wrote: > Laura Bruce wrote: >> Interesting show on BBC3 last night exposed the vulnerablity >> of computers due to their wireless internet signals. They drove a van >> up outside a house, and picked up everything from the guy's ebay >> purchases to his confirmation of a holiday booked online -- showing >> exactly when the house would be vacant! >> >> How vulnerable are G4 iBooks? I am running OS X 10.3.9, but wonder if >> regular software updates have been sufficient to protect my computer. >> >> My network does not require a password, and file sharing is turned >> off. > > Laura, > > That you have an open network is surprising. I recently made my Apple > Airport wireless network 100 times less vulnerable by increasing the > password complexity. It is easy to establish that first line of > defense, and I encourage you to do so. Experts here can explain to you > the additional security features of your Mac, but why not use all of > them, beginning with a password-protected network? > > I see no reason why an iBook would be more or less vulnerable than any > other model, but perhaps others will enlighten us both on that score. > > > Jack > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From briang113 at pacbell.net Fri Oct 27 09:57:09 2006 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Fri Oct 27 09:57:12 2006 Subject: [iBook] WiFi security on iBook? In-Reply-To: <123a534f90fa80707ffa08488782d538@tequis.com.mx> References: <4540D009.3050504@sbcglobal.net> <123a534f90fa80707ffa08488782d538@tequis.com.mx> Message-ID: <7F2B6F1A-A1CE-4504-81DE-120100577693@pacbell.net> Are you using an apple airport base station or some other brand of access point? That can make a difference. there are some shortcuts and work arounds depending on the brand. Brian iBook G4 1.33 GHz 1.25 GB RAM On Oct 27, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Peter Nevett wrote: > I have a G4 iBook with an Airport Extreme card which works > perfectly with all the wireless networks I have encountered. > > My wife's Clamshell G3 iBook has an "old" Airport card (not > Airport Extreme). > > If I turn on WEP encryption on my wireless router, the G4 continues > to work but the G3 cannot communicate. > > Do all Airport cards support WEP encryption? > > Pete > > On Oct 26, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Jack wrote: > >> Laura Bruce wrote: >>> Interesting show on BBC3 last night exposed the vulnerablity >>> of computers due to their wireless internet signals. They drove a >>> van >>> up outside a house, and picked up everything from the guy's ebay >>> purchases to his confirmation of a holiday booked online -- showing >>> exactly when the house would be vacant! >>> >>> How vulnerable are G4 iBooks? I am running OS X 10.3.9, but >>> wonder if >>> regular software updates have been sufficient to protect my >>> computer. >>> >>> My network does not require a password, and file sharing is >>> turned off. >> >> Laura, >> >> That you have an open network is surprising. I recently made my >> Apple Airport wireless network 100 times less vulnerable by >> increasing the password complexity. It is easy to establish that >> first line of defense, and I encourage you to do so. Experts here >> can explain to you the additional security features of your Mac, >> but why not use all of them, beginning with a password-protected >> network? >> >> I see no reason why an iBook would be more or less vulnerable than >> any other model, but perhaps others will enlighten us both on that >> score. >> >> >> Jack >> >> _______________________________________________ >> iBook mailing list >> iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From j.bohn at cox.net Fri Oct 27 14:45:41 2006 From: j.bohn at cox.net (John Bohn) Date: Fri Oct 27 14:46:25 2006 Subject: [iBook] WiFi security on iBook? In-Reply-To: <123a534f90fa80707ffa08488782d538@tequis.com.mx> Message-ID: On 10/27/06 9:14 AM, "Peter Nevett" wrote: > My wife's Clamshell G3 iBook has an "old" Airport card (not Airport > Extreme). > > If I turn on WEP encryption on my wireless router, the G4 continues to > work but the G3 cannot communicate. > > Do all Airport cards support WEP encryption? Hi, Peter. The Clamshell iBook and its first generation AirPort card will support 128 bit WEP encryption if you update its AirPort software to version 2.0.4. You can download it here: http://www.eskimo.com/~pristine/appud.html John From j.bohn at cox.net Fri Oct 27 16:36:29 2006 From: j.bohn at cox.net (John Bohn) Date: Fri Oct 27 16:36:39 2006 Subject: [iBook] WiFi security on iBook? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/27/06 2:45 PM, "John Bohn" wrote: > Hi, Peter. The Clamshell iBook and its first generation AirPort card will > support 128 bit WEP encryption if you update its AirPort software to version > 2.0.4. You can download it here: Of course that's assuming the Clamshell is running some version of MacOS 9. If it's running OS X, what version and what router are you using? John