From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 01:32:37 2007 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Mon Dec 3 01:42:56 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have one of the new intel 24" dual core macs & I would assume all those macs would come with double layer. Does it burn both sides by itself or do you have to kick it out & flip it over? --- James Paul Manley http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements On 10:04:54, at 10:04 AM, joe wrote: > > > On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:51 AM, James Paul Manley wrote: > >> How does one tell if one has a Double layer superdrive? > > In Tiger, you go to About this Mac/More Info/Hardware/Disc Burning > and look for supported DVD write formats. I think you're looking > for "+RW DL". I think. I'm pretty sure mine is capable of burning > Double Layer DVDs, but mine only says "+R DL". (Since single layer > disks are way less than half the price of double layer disks, I see > no point. You can compress file sizes to fit a regular disk for > most purposes. If it's so big the compression causes problems, I > just use two disks.) > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20071202/24164294/attachment.html From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Mon Dec 3 01:50:11 2007 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Mon Dec 3 02:43:28 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2 Dec 2007, at 09:32, James Paul Manley wrote: > I have one of the new intel 24" dual core macs & I would assume all > those macs would come with double layer. > > Does it burn both sides by itself or do you have to kick it out & > flip it over? DL drives still only burn one side of the disc. The disc has two layers of recordable media on the one side. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From skygram at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 02:03:00 2007 From: skygram at gmail.com (Skygram) Date: Mon Dec 3 02:46:42 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi James, Your burning software should be able to recognize what type of disks that you are using. Of course, when burning double layer discs you need the 8.7 double layer media. I didn't know that fact when I first started attempting to burn in the DL format. I spent a good few hours screwing up. I use Toast and it has you choose which media you want, either "DVD" or "DVD DL". I only use DL discs on occasion as they are still relatively expensive. I only buy them when they are around a buck apiece. Bill Montreal From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 10:07:45 2007 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Mon Dec 3 19:26:43 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I own Toast as well but I haven't bought any dl disks yet. --- James Paul Manley http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements I am 59 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Which has been resolved. Taking Nilandron pills & Zoledex shots. PSA is 0.3 On 3:03:00 3:03:00, at 3:03 AM, Skygram wrote: > Hi James, > > Your burning software should be able to recognize what type of disks > that > you are using. Of course, when burning double layer discs you need > the 8.7 > double layer media. I didn't know that fact when I first started > attempting > to burn in the DL format. I spent a good few hours screwing up. > > I use Toast and it has you choose which media you want, either "DVD" > or "DVD > DL". I only use DL discs on occasion as they are still relatively > expensive. > I only buy them when they are around a buck apiece. > > Bill > Montreal > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From cmmac at sonic.net Mon Dec 3 23:20:27 2007 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Tue Dec 4 01:32:38 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:32 AM -0700 12/2/07, James Paul Manley wrote: >I have one of the new intel 24" dual core macs & I would assume >all those macs would come with double layer. > >Does it burn both sides by itself or do you have to kick it out & >flip it over? > >-- There are Dual Layer disks and there are Double Sided. There are even Double Sided, Dual Layer for a total of 4 layers with 19 Gb of space. I don't know of DVD-Rs like that but there could be. Dual Layer disks can be burned without changing the disk. The only double sided disks I've run into are video disks, often the opposite side has an alternate version of the movie, wide screen vs full screen. These disks have to be flipped manually, at least in my player. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Fri Dec 7 13:51:24 2007 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Fri Dec 7 13:51:57 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <774B595F-04C2-496E-B631-5E0B6B9C3FC3@gmail.com> This is what I have. So how does that spell out? MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-85J: Firmware Revision: FCQA Interconnect: ATAPI Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive) Cache: 2048 KB Reads DVD: Yes CD-Write: -R, -RW DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds --- James Paul Manley http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements I am 59 years old, diagnosed PCa 8-9-06 Gleason 9. hasn't gone into the bone, has spread to my lungs & bladder. Which has been resolved. Taking Nilandron pills & Zoledex shots. PSA is 0.3 On 12:20:27 12:20:27, at 12:20 AM, Clark Martin wrote: > At 2:32 AM -0700 12/2/07, James Paul Manley wrote: >> I have one of the new intel 24" dual core macs & I would assume all >> those macs would come with double layer. >> >> Does it burn both sides by itself or do you have to kick it out & >> flip it over? >> >> -- > > There are Dual Layer disks and there are Double Sided. There are > even Double Sided, Dual Layer for a total of 4 layers with 19 Gb of > space. I don't know of DVD-Rs like that but there could be. > > Dual Layer disks can be burned without changing the disk. The only > double sided disks I've run into are video disks, often the opposite > side has an alternate version of the movie, wide screen vs full > screen. These disks have to be flipped manually, at least in my > player. > -- > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Fri Dec 7 14:36:35 2007 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Fri Dec 7 14:36:45 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: <774B595F-04C2-496E-B631-5E0B6B9C3FC3@gmail.com> References: <774B595F-04C2-496E-B631-5E0B6B9C3FC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7 Dec 2007, at 21:51, James Paul Manley wrote: > This is what I have. So how does that spell out? > > MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-85J: > DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW Its a standard DL drive as shown by the +R DL. Buy the correct media and it'll store about 8.5GB on one side as previously discussed. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From rjlauelists at hawaiiantel.net Fri Dec 7 17:03:32 2007 From: rjlauelists at hawaiiantel.net (Richard J Laue) Date: Fri Dec 7 17:03:46 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: <774B595F-04C2-496E-B631-5E0B6B9C3FC3@gmail.com> References: <774B595F-04C2-496E-B631-5E0B6B9C3FC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: >This is what I have. So how does that spell out? > >MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-85J: > > > CD-Write: -R, -RW > DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW > Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO > Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds This drive will burn +R DL (Dual Layer) DVDs. It will NOT burn -R DL media, so be sure to check the label carefully when you buy your DVDs. For SINGLE-layer DVDs, this drive will handle either +R or -R. For burning CDs, you need -R media, NOT +R. You should write down the specs above, and take it with you when you go shopping for media. Newer Macs are able to handle any and all of the above, but you've got one of the older models that won't. You will probably discover that your drive won't PLAY +R CDs, or -R DVDs, that have been burned on other people's machines. The Matshita drive is very fussy in that regard. Cheers - RJLaue From cartwrig at aye.net Fri Dec 7 18:04:36 2007 From: cartwrig at aye.net (Anne Cartwright) Date: Fri Dec 7 18:02:26 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: References: <774B595F-04C2-496E-B631-5E0B6B9C3FC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00200141-7509-4FA7-8751-BD3F032AEFAB@aye.net> If you are burning a DV to send to a number of people, many of whom will be playing it on their TV DVD player, which is the best format to use? In other words, what format works on most play DVD players (computer and/or TV)? Anne Cartwright On Dec 7, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Richard J Laue wrote: >> This is what I have. So how does that spell out? >> >> MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-85J: >> >> >> CD-Write: -R, -RW >> DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW >> Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO >> Media: Insert media and refresh to show available burn speeds > > > This drive will burn +R DL (Dual Layer) DVDs. > It will NOT burn -R DL media, so be sure to check the label > carefully when you buy your DVDs. > > For SINGLE-layer DVDs, this drive will handle either +R or -R. > > For burning CDs, you need -R media, NOT +R. > > You should write down the specs above, and take it with you when > you go shopping for media. > > Newer Macs are able to handle any and all of the above, but you've > got one of the older models that won't. You will probably discover > that your drive won't PLAY +R CDs, or -R DVDs, that have been > burned on other people's machines. The Matshita drive is very > fussy in that regard. > > Cheers - > RJLaue > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Fri Dec 7 18:03:41 2007 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Fri Dec 7 18:04:14 2007 Subject: [iBook] Double layer superdrive In-Reply-To: References: <774B595F-04C2-496E-B631-5E0B6B9C3FC3@gmail.com> Message-ID: > This drive will burn +R DL (Dual Layer) DVDs. > It will NOT burn -R DL media, so be sure to check the label > carefully when you buy your DVDs. > > For SINGLE-layer DVDs, this drive will handle either +R or -R. > > For burning CDs, you need -R media, NOT +R. Never found that an issue. > Newer Macs are able to handle any and all of the above, but you've > got one of the older models that won't. You will probably discover > that your drive won't PLAY +R CDs, or -R DVDs, that have been > burned on other people's machines. The Matshita drive is very > fussy in that regard. Can't agree with that. My MBP has that drive in it and it is pretty current. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From juanm at mac.com Sun Dec 16 07:16:30 2007 From: juanm at mac.com (Juan M) Date: Sun Dec 16 07:16:45 2007 Subject: [iBook] Clamshell iBooks and DVD In-Reply-To: <20070920010409.008FD1659CB4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070920010409.008FD1659CB4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <97785C82-503E-462A-A95A-61BE26BDC313@mac.com> Hi I have a 366Mhz Indigo Clamshell iBook with the 10Gb hard drive (I would term it the second generation although there was a 366Mhz clamshell iBook with a 6Gb hard drive). The question: Can I replace the existing CD-ROM with a DVD or combo drive to watch DVDs. I saw one reference that the logic board might not support a DVD player due to a decoder not being on the logic board. (is this like the old wallstreet powerbook that had a plug in DVD player but to play the DVDs you needed to have a special DVD PC card in the slot - I have one of these too. Obviously the clamshell doesn't have a PC card slot but the point here is that the card adds functionality that didn't exist on the motherboard) So can I just swap out the CD-ROM with a DVD player or combo drive ? Yes, I know it is a big job to do so. thanks Juan From maryh at brucetelecom.com Sun Dec 16 11:45:04 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Sun Dec 16 11:46:21 2007 Subject: [iBook] Clamshell iBooks and DVD In-Reply-To: <97785C82-503E-462A-A95A-61BE26BDC313@mac.com> References: <20070920010409.008FD1659CB4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <97785C82-503E-462A-A95A-61BE26BDC313@mac.com> Message-ID: At 10:16 AM -0500 12/16/07, Juan M wrote: >Hi > >I have a 366Mhz Indigo Clamshell iBook with the 10Gb hard drive [...] >So can I just swap out the CD-ROM with a DVD player or combo drive ? >Yes, I know it is a big job to do so. If you have not already done so, google - clamshell ibook combo drive -. You'll probably end up here: http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso where you can plug your info into the search form and have a look at the reports by people who have done similar projects. From dmichaelharris at earthlink.net Mon Dec 17 05:35:11 2007 From: dmichaelharris at earthlink.net (dmichaelharris@earthlink.net) Date: Mon Dec 17 05:35:21 2007 Subject: [iBook] iBook Freezes Message-ID: <667741791-1197898470-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1147210672-@bxe127.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Hi: I broke down and had my iBook G3 (700 mhz, 512 in L2, Airport car running 10.4.11) I reset the PRAM but it still freezes, espe0ially with Mail. Think I should re-install 10.4? Thanks, David Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Mon Dec 17 05:49:56 2007 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Mon Dec 17 05:50:02 2007 Subject: [iBook] Clamshell iBooks and DVD In-Reply-To: <97785C82-503E-462A-A95A-61BE26BDC313@mac.com> References: <20070920010409.008FD1659CB4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <97785C82-503E-462A-A95A-61BE26BDC313@mac.com> Message-ID: > I have a 366Mhz Indigo Clamshell iBook with the 10Gb hard drive (I > would term it the second generation although there was a 366Mhz > clamshell iBook with a 6Gb hard drive). > > The question: Can I replace the existing CD-ROM with a DVD or combo > drive to watch DVDs. I saw one reference that the logic board might > not support a DVD player due to a decoder not being on the logic > board. Yes you can, be aware your existing bezel almost certainly won't fit. IIRC for video playback you'll need to be on OS X. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From ewiser at bellsouth.net Mon Dec 17 09:07:01 2007 From: ewiser at bellsouth.net (Ed Wiser) Date: Mon Dec 17 09:07:10 2007 Subject: [iBook] iBook Freezes In-Reply-To: <667741791-1197898470-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1147210672-@bxe127.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <667741791-1197898470-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1147210672-@bxe127.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: Have your rebuilt the mail box?Mailbox>Rebuild. If you delete a lot of mail it is always best to preform a Rebuild at least once a month. On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:35 AM, dmichaelharris@earthlink.net wrote: > Hi: > > I broke down and had my iBook G3 (700 mhz, 512 in L2, Airport car > running 10.4.11) I reset the PRAM but it still freezes, espe0ially > with Mail. > > Think I should re-install 10.4? > > Thanks, > David > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From pbernhardt at comcast.net Thu Dec 20 20:43:25 2007 From: pbernhardt at comcast.net (Paul Bernhardt) Date: Thu Dec 20 20:43:32 2007 Subject: [iBook] Using Parallels? Message-ID: <993357372dd262374e85b268cfe7a7f4@comcast.net> I've installed Parallels on a Macbook and it has bogged it down terribly. 1 GB RAM, new machine (4 months old, that is), running Tiger. Anyone here have experience running Parallels? Any ideas on optimizing performance? TIA! Paul From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Thu Dec 20 20:58:22 2007 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Thu Dec 20 20:58:32 2007 Subject: [iBook] Using Parallels? In-Reply-To: <993357372dd262374e85b268cfe7a7f4@comcast.net> References: <993357372dd262374e85b268cfe7a7f4@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 21 Dec 2007, at 04:43, Paul Bernhardt wrote: > I've installed Parallels on a Macbook and it has bogged it down > terribly. 1 GB RAM, new machine (4 months old, that is), running > Tiger. > > Anyone here have experience running Parallels? Any ideas on > optimizing performance? Yup, add RAM, it's a hog. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz Thu Dec 20 23:49:50 2007 From: howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz (Howard Pettigrew) Date: Thu Dec 20 23:50:03 2007 Subject: [iBook] Using Parallels? In-Reply-To: <993357372dd262374e85b268cfe7a7f4@comcast.net> References: <993357372dd262374e85b268cfe7a7f4@comcast.net> Message-ID: Strange, I ran it SLLOOWWLLY on my 1.83 early series MacBook on 512, and the Apple demo machine (black 2 GHz) I took around schools only had 1 gig of RAM and there wasn't a PC laptop which I couldn't beat on start up, etc - which annoyed more than one or two school Principals with fancy PC laptops! I have 2 gig in my machine now but after a period of time, Parallels has even slowed down on that - typical PC behaviour. Holiday job to do a PC clean up - if only it was as simple as on the Mac. Sorry, can't offer any great pearls of wisdom on this one, but extra RAM makes your MacBook sing so it is worth it on the Mac side alone! Cheers H in NZ On 21/12/2007, at 5:43 PM, Paul Bernhardt wrote: > I've installed Parallels on a Macbook and it has bogged it down > terribly. 1 GB RAM, new machine (4 months old, that is), running > Tiger. > > Anyone here have experience running Parallels? Any ideas on > optimizing performance? > > TIA! > > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From michaelelliott at mac.com Fri Dec 21 05:58:40 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Fri Dec 21 05:59:01 2007 Subject: [iBook] Using Parallels? In-Reply-To: References: <993357372dd262374e85b268cfe7a7f4@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hate to constantly be the one pointing this out, but you can put 4 GB of RAM into a MacBook for under US$100 now. Michael On Dec 20, 2007, at 10:58 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote: > > On 21 Dec 2007, at 04:43, Paul Bernhardt wrote: > >> I've installed Parallels on a Macbook and it has bogged it down >> terribly. 1 GB RAM, new machine (4 months old, that is), running >> Tiger. >> >> Anyone here have experience running Parallels? Any ideas on >> optimizing performance? > > Yup, add RAM, it's a hog. > > > -- > Best wishes > > Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic > http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Fri Dec 21 06:01:51 2007 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Fri Dec 21 06:02:26 2007 Subject: [iBook] Using Parallels? In-Reply-To: References: <993357372dd262374e85b268cfe7a7f4@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 21 Dec 2007, at 13:58, Michael Elliott wrote: > Hate to constantly be the one pointing this out, but you can put 4 > GB of RAM into a MacBook for under US$100 now. Only in the models sold after November or so this year. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From don at distelphoto.com Fri Dec 21 14:33:43 2007 From: don at distelphoto.com (Don Distel) Date: Fri Dec 21 14:33:55 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook Message-ID: <54A2A665-C1E2-4099-A019-70E67886A5FC@distelphoto.com> I have a 4 or 5 year old G4 Powerbook. It is a 1 GHz model with 1 GB of Ram. My only real usage for this laptop is location photography where I tether the camera to the laptop so my clients can see their products on the laptop screen as opposed to looking at the back of the camera. Everything works fine but it seems to be slow especially since I went from a 5 megapixel camera to a 10 megapixel. Would I see a significant increase in speed with a new Macbook which I would max out the ram? I don't want to spend the extra $ on a Macbook Pro if I don't have to. One other thing, as soon as I get back from my location work I download the photos onto my 20inch G5 I Mac and work on them there. Thanks, Don From skygram at gmail.com Fri Dec 21 14:44:57 2007 From: skygram at gmail.com (Skygram) Date: Fri Dec 21 14:45:13 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook In-Reply-To: <54A2A665-C1E2-4099-A019-70E67886A5FC@distelphoto.com> Message-ID: Don, I cannot for the life of me figure out why your machine would be slower due to an increase in camera pixilation. There shouldn't be any noticeable difference. So I am curious what other people will say. I use an even older iBOOK 600mhz and I have jumped from a 5mega pixel Nikon D1X to a 12 mega pixel D2X with no noticeable change. What am I missing here? Bill From don at distelphoto.com Fri Dec 21 14:54:13 2007 From: don at distelphoto.com (Don Distel) Date: Fri Dec 21 14:54:29 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35C5BD69-5AB8-4784-9D88-9766F23B8D53@distelphoto.com> Bill, Thanks for the quick reply. How can it not be slower since the raw file size has gone from 7.5mb to 15mb? D1X to D200. On Dec 21, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Skygram wrote: > Don, > > I cannot for the life of me figure out why your machine would be > slower due > to an increase in camera pixilation. There shouldn't be any noticeable > difference. So I am curious what other people will say. > > I use an even older iBOOK 600mhz and I have jumped from a 5mega > pixel Nikon > D1X to a 12 mega pixel D2X with no noticeable change. > > What am I missing here? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > From skygram at gmail.com Fri Dec 21 15:46:50 2007 From: skygram at gmail.com (Skygram) Date: Fri Dec 21 15:47:18 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook In-Reply-To: <35C5BD69-5AB8-4784-9D88-9766F23B8D53@distelphoto.com> Message-ID: Don, My take on it is that it shouldn't be noticeable at all. The files are too small. Theoretically you should only see a difference if you had larger video files. There could be an argument for the type of storage (memory) media you are using on your respective cameras as to how it affects the speed of the downloads. Are they the same? Some cards can be significantly can be faster than others. Also the general size of the media could also be a factor. I use the fairly large 2 gig cards. My iBook only uses USB 1.1. If I am not mistaken yours is faster with USB2. So it all seems relative. Why don't you bring the whole mix to a good camera store and ask them? They should be familiar with your equipment and could probably see if it isn't functioning up to the specs. Bill From don at distelphoto.com Fri Dec 21 16:20:26 2007 From: don at distelphoto.com (Don Distel) Date: Fri Dec 21 16:20:39 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill, Normally I don't use any storage media - the laptop is my storage media. As I said I tether the camera to the laptop. My files go directly from the camera to the laptop by means of usb 2. On a side note the Powerbook that I have is only usb 1 so I found a usb 2.0 card made by D-Link that brings the speed up considerably. You might want to look into that. Things are a lot faster when I tether my camera to my G5 Imac in the studio so my question still is - Is the dual intel processors on the Macbook going to make things happen a lot faster than my Powerbook? www.distelphoto.com On Dec 21, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Skygram wrote: > Don, > > My take on it is that it shouldn't be noticeable at all. The files > are too > small. Theoretically you should only see a difference if you had > larger > video files. > > There could be an argument for the type of storage (memory) media > you are > using on your respective cameras as to how it affects the speed of the > downloads. Are they the same? Some cards can be significantly can > be faster > than others. Also the general size of the media could also be a > factor. I > use the fairly large 2 gig cards. My iBook only uses USB 1.1. If I > am not > mistaken yours is faster with USB2. So it all seems relative. > > Why don't you bring the whole mix to a good camera store and ask > them? They > should be familiar with your equipment and could probably see if it > isn't > functioning up to the specs. > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20071221/25f1163c/attachment.html From skygram at gmail.com Fri Dec 21 16:34:45 2007 From: skygram at gmail.com (Skygram) Date: Fri Dec 21 16:35:04 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Don, I see what you are doing. It is an approach that I hadn't considered. I assumed that you were using Sandisk cards of one type or another and downloading directly from them. You could look into the speed of these cards. SanDisk produce some fairly fast cards. USB, whatever their speed are dependant upon the CPU. When USB2 is advertised with speeds of 480mbps. This speed only occurs under ideal situations when your computer's cpu isn't doing something else at the same time. So, in theory, the faster the CPU, the faster the downloads. Firewire on the other hand is considered slower at 400mbps. However Firewire isn't dependant on the processor, so it is consistently faster. This is just my view, possibly there are others on this list that might venture an opinion. Bill From ewiser at bellsouth.net Sat Dec 22 04:37:47 2007 From: ewiser at bellsouth.net (Ed Wiser) Date: Sat Dec 22 04:37:54 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook In-Reply-To: <54A2A665-C1E2-4099-A019-70E67886A5FC@distelphoto.com> References: <54A2A665-C1E2-4099-A019-70E67886A5FC@distelphoto.com> Message-ID: Don I do mac Genius work for Photographers and they work similar to the way you do. They have all switched to MacBook Pro's and are loving it. Especially the quicklook in Leopard. There will be a speed up especially with the large files that you are working with from a 10 meg camera. On Dec 21, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Don Distel wrote: > I have a 4 or 5 year old G4 Powerbook. It is a 1 GHz model with 1 GB > of Ram. My only real usage for this laptop is location photography > where I tether the camera to the laptop so my clients can see their > products on the laptop screen as opposed to looking at the back of > the camera. Everything works fine but it seems to be slow especially > since I went from a 5 megapixel camera to a 10 megapixel. Would I > see a significant increase in speed with a new Macbook which I would > max out the ram? I don't want to spend the extra $ on a Macbook Pro > if I don't have to. One other thing, as soon as I get back from my > location work I download the photos onto my 20inch G5 I Mac and work > on them there. > > Thanks, > Don > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From don at distelphoto.com Sat Dec 22 06:50:32 2007 From: don at distelphoto.com (Don Distel) Date: Sat Dec 22 06:50:47 2007 Subject: [iBook] Older Powerbook vs new Macbook In-Reply-To: References: <54A2A665-C1E2-4099-A019-70E67886A5FC@distelphoto.com> Message-ID: <3BFF33BB-108B-4BD3-97BC-CC43F1B65ED9@distelphoto.com> Thanks for your input Ed, so you are saying that the MacBook Pro would be that much better than the MacBook for my usage. Don www.distelphoto.com On Dec 22, 2007, at 7:37 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: > Don I do mac Genius work for Photographers and they work similar to > the way you do. > They have all switched to MacBook Pro's and are loving it. > Especially the quicklook in Leopard. > There will be a speed up especially with the large files that you > are working with from a 10 meg camera. > > > On Dec 21, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Don Distel wrote: > >> I have a 4 or 5 year old G4 Powerbook. It is a 1 GHz model with 1 >> GB of Ram. My only real usage for this laptop is location >> photography where I tether the camera to the laptop so my clients >> can see their products on the laptop screen as opposed to looking >> at the back of the camera. Everything works fine but it seems to >> be slow especially since I went from a 5 megapixel camera to a 10 >> megapixel. Would I see a significant increase in speed with a new >> Macbook which I would max out the ram? I don't want to spend the >> extra $ on a Macbook Pro if I don't have to. One other thing, as >> soon as I get back from my location work I download the photos >> onto my 20inch G5 I Mac and work on them there. >> >> Thanks, >> Don >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> iBook mailing list >> iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20071222/74be59f7/attachment.html From harveyinspections at att.net Thu Dec 27 07:30:29 2007 From: harveyinspections at att.net (don harvey) Date: Thu Dec 27 07:30:45 2007 Subject: [iBook] How does this work? Message-ID: <229163.18888.qm@web82413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good morning, In 1985, I bought the first Mac in my county. I loved it but no one else knew anything about it. Time passed. Now, 20 years + later, I bought an I Book 12.1"500 MHz G3 from Gain Saver. It is their "low ball" unit and has no software. I need help! I want to use it with a word type program but I don't where to start. Obviously, I can't "load it up" because I paid ony $200 for it. What do I do? I'm 70 and a little slow in the head. Anything you could do to get me started would be of great help. I've adobted this as a project I intend to finish. Thank you so much for any advise you can give. Don Harvey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20071227/d42bfced/attachment-0001.html From charlesp at ksu.edu Thu Dec 27 08:19:39 2007 From: charlesp at ksu.edu (charlesp@ksu.edu) Date: Thu Dec 27 08:19:51 2007 Subject: [iBook] How does this work? In-Reply-To: <229163.18888.qm@web82413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <229163.18888.qm@web82413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1198772379.4773d09b7d4ec@webmail.ksu.edu> Quoting don harvey : > Good morning, > In 1985, I bought the first Mac in my county. I loved it but no > one else knew anything about it. Time passed. Now, 20 years + > later, I bought an I Book 12.1"500 MHz G3 from Gain Saver. It is > their "low ball" unit and has no software. I need help! I want to > use it with a word type program but I don't where to start. > Obviously, I can't "load it up" because I paid ony $200 for it. What > do I do? I'm 70 and a little slow in the head. Anything you could > do to get me started would be of great help. I've adobted this as a > project I intend to finish. Thank you so much for any advise you can > give. > Don Harvey When you say that it has no software, does that mean it has no operating system software? If it does, then what OS is it? OS-X (10.2, 10.3, 10.4)? If you have an operating system installed, then you need an inexpensive word processor. You didn't mention the purpose of your word processing, but if you're going to try to make these available in computer file form to others, then you'll probably have to get some version of MS Word. You may be able to find an older version of MS Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) for relatively little. And I would advise an older version because it's likely to run better on a G3. Someone may recommend going with open-source software because it's free, but it doesn't install as easily as commercial software, and while it operates in a similar manner to MS Office, there's enough difference to make it more of a hassle down the road, especially if trying to exchange files with anyone. Mac OS-X (any version) comes with TextEdit, which is a simple text editing (duh) application, that can do a lot of basic word processing, if word processing is all you want to do. You can save the file as either .txt or .rtf and anyone should be able to open the file in any word processor. Hope this helps. And good luck with your project. Charles Pearce (charlesp@ksu.edu) From tr5374 at csc.albany.edu Thu Dec 27 18:54:41 2007 From: tr5374 at csc.albany.edu (Tom R. no spam) Date: Thu Dec 27 18:54:52 2007 Subject: [iBook] How does this work? In-Reply-To: <229163.18888.qm@web82413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <229163.18888.qm@web82413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That was the first "iceBook" iBook, and came with both OS 9 and OS X stock. Sometimes the installer pack included the AppleWorks family of programs: word processing, spreadsheet, database, drawing, painting, and presentation. If you have that (if not, you probably can get it cheap), that's good enough to do a lot. It will open M$Office documents, and save in M$Office formats, I believe. The current version of AW is 6.2.9/6.2.8 (OSX/OS9), and the updater to this version from any AW version 6.x.x is free. If you don't even have any OS on the iBook, you can get OS 10.3 for approx $100 or so. That should be fine for your iBook, if you have at least 256MB RAM. Be sure to run all of Apple's OS 10.3 updaters, including the security updaters. A fine place to get good quality RAM cheap is OWC (http://www.macsales.com). On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, don harvey wrote: . . . > bought an I Book 12.1"500 MHz G3 from Gain Saver. It is their "low > ball" unit and has no software. I need help! I want to use it with a > word type program but I don't where to start. Obviously, I can't > "load it up" because I paid ony $200 for it. What do I do? I'm 70 > and a little slow in the head. Anything you could do to get me started . . .