From matthurstpr at googlemail.com Sun Jul 8 09:56:37 2007 From: matthurstpr at googlemail.com (Matt Hurst) Date: Sun Jul 8 09:56:52 2007 Subject: [iBook] Find my missing 7 gigs Message-ID: It's probably my shoddy understanding of OS X, but having spent the afternoon sweeping up files to stop my 30g hard drive filling up, I just did some sums based on 'Get Info', and I seeme to have about 7 gigs missing: Users folder: 2.97g System: 1.06g Library: 3.99g Apps: 7.57g Free: 8 gigs (according to Finder anyhow) Which leaves me 7 gigs unaccounted for, or allowing for formatting etc. on the HD, at least 4 gigs. So what's OS X hiding from me, and why? Is my hard drive on the way out (it's a 2 and half year old G4 1.2mhz iBook)? cheers Matt From jayh at jalehill.com Sun Jul 8 16:39:27 2007 From: jayh at jalehill.com (Jay Hill) Date: Sun Jul 8 16:39:36 2007 Subject: [iBook] Find my missing 7 gigs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There are a number of utilities that allow you to view how much space specific files and folders are using quickly and fairly easily. Here's links to a few: Disk Inventory X: http://www.derlien.com/ WhatSize: http://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/ OmniDisk Sweeper: http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/ omnidisksweeper/ I personallyy like Disk Inventory X, but check them all out. Jay > It's probably my shoddy understanding of OS X, but having spent the > afternoon sweeping up files to stop my 30g hard drive filling up, I > just did some sums based on 'Get Info', and I seeme to have about 7 > gigs missing: > > Users folder: 2.97g > System: 1.06g > Library: 3.99g > Apps: 7.57g > Free: 8 gigs (according to Finder anyhow) > > Which leaves me 7 gigs unaccounted for, or allowing for formatting > etc. on the HD, at least 4 gigs. > > So what's OS X hiding from me, and why? Is my hard drive on the way > out (it's a 2 and half year old G4 1.2mhz iBook)? > > cheers > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From matthurst at fastmail.co.uk Mon Jul 9 01:11:21 2007 From: matthurst at fastmail.co.uk (Matt Hurst) Date: Mon Jul 9 01:11:31 2007 Subject: [iBook] Find my missing 7 gigs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cheers Jay. I had a poke around with WhatSize and the main culprit seemed to be a 1.5g MacTex file left over from when I toyed around with Lyx for a bit. It was in the usr directory which is of course hidden from normal mortals. I also discovered where the 200 Keynote templates were and got rid of most of the more twee ones, and got rid of loads of Garage Band loops, both onto an external HD. I'm up 5 gigs on the day, but I still think there's more to be trimmed... Matt On 09/07/07, Jay Hill wrote: > > There are a number of utilities that allow you to view how much space > specific files and folders are using quickly and fairly easily. > > > Here's links to a few: Disk Inventory X: http://www.derlien.com/ > WhatSize: http://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/ > OmniDisk Sweeper: http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/ > omnidisksweeper/ > > I personallyy like Disk Inventory X, but check them all out. > > Jay > > > > > > It's probably my shoddy understanding of OS X, but having spent the > > afternoon sweeping up files to stop my 30g hard drive filling up, I > > just did some sums based on 'Get Info', and I seeme to have about 7 > > gigs missing: > > > > Users folder: 2.97g > > System: 1.06g > > Library: 3.99g > > Apps: 7.57g > > Free: 8 gigs (according to Finder anyhow) > > > > Which leaves me 7 gigs unaccounted for, or allowing for formatting > > etc. on the HD, at least 4 gigs. > > > > So what's OS X hiding from me, and why? Is my hard drive on the way > > out (it's a 2 and half year old G4 1.2mhz iBook)? > > > > cheers > > > > Matt > > _______________________________________________ > > iBook mailing list > > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > > stuff: > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au Mon Jul 9 01:19:07 2007 From: angus.wallace at flinders.edu.au (Angus Wallace) Date: Mon Jul 9 01:19:22 2007 Subject: [iBook] Find my missing 7 gigs Message-ID: <1183969147.4691ef7b6f6b4@imp.flinders.edu.au> I noticed, when I installed Tiger, that the default install includes several GB of printer drivers - part of it could be eaten up there... -Gus From matthurst at fastmail.co.uk Mon Jul 9 02:45:48 2007 From: matthurst at fastmail.co.uk (Matt Hurst) Date: Mon Jul 9 02:45:53 2007 Subject: [iBook] Find my missing 7 gigs In-Reply-To: <1183969147.4691ef7b6f6b4@imp.flinders.edu.au> References: <1183969147.4691ef7b6f6b4@imp.flinders.edu.au> Message-ID: You're right! I got rid of them from 3.9 but then 10.4 reinstalled them. Any good bits of freeware for it? Or where are they, I've forgotten... Matt From labruce at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 07:27:24 2007 From: labruce at gmail.com (Laura Bruce) Date: Mon Jul 9 07:27:31 2007 Subject: [iBook] thank you! Message-ID: Just wanted to thank Jay for recommending Disk Inventory X. I recently maxxed out my 60 gig harddrive, and using this great little app, was able to identify and delete 10 gigs of unnecessary stuff (e.g. Garage Band loops, duplicate movies, etc) from my hard drive. Cheers! Laura > There are a number of utilities that allow you to view how much space > specific files and folders are using quickly and fairly easily. > > > Here's links to a few: Disk Inventory X: http://www.derlien.com/ > WhatSize: http://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/ > OmniDisk Sweeper: http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/ > omnidisksweeper/ > > I personallyy like Disk Inventory X, but check them all out. > > Jay From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 11:45:14 2007 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Mon Jul 16 11:45:24 2007 Subject: [iBook] Bluetooth in address book Message-ID: What is the bluetooth button for in the address book? I though you could copy your contacts from the Mac to the phone. Afterall they all see eath other. But according to Apple & Quest you can't. What is the button in the Mac address book for? --- James Paul Manley Albuquerque, New Mexico http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html My name is James Paul Manley, I am 58 years old and I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer on August 9th, 2006 with a Gleason rating of 9. The cancer hasn't spread into my bones yet. it has spread to my lungs & bladder. I am taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ will heal me as a testimony to his love. 2 Chronicles 20 From briang113 at pacbell.net Mon Jul 16 13:40:18 2007 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Mon Jul 16 13:40:30 2007 Subject: [iBook] Bluetooth in address book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can send contacts to your Bluetooth device. The button is for pairing devices. You need to use the "send this card" feature to send info to phone etc. To transfer all the data you need to use Sync. BG On Jul 16, 2007, at 11:45 AM, James Paul Manley wrote: > What is the bluetooth button for in the address book? I though you > could copy your contacts from the Mac to the phone. Afterall they > all see eath other. But according to Apple & Quest you can't. What > is the button in the Mac address book for? > > --- > James Paul Manley > Albuquerque, New Mexico > > http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements > http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html > > My name is James Paul Manley, I am 58 years old and I was > diagnosed with Prostate Cancer on August 9th, 2006 > with a Gleason rating of 9. The cancer hasn't spread > into my bones yet. it has spread to my lungs & bladder. > I am taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced > that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ will heal me as > a testimony to his love. > > 2 Chronicles 20 > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 15:56:38 2007 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Mon Jul 16 15:56:51 2007 Subject: [iBook] Bluetooth in address book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71C7DFB2-8D44-4750-B66D-631E82500D9D@gmail.com> Thank-you very muck. Since I my post I figured most of that out & I am searching for other uses for bluetooth. It is a very cook feature. --- James Paul Manley Albuquerque, New Mexico http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html My name is James Paul Manley, I am 58 years old and I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer on August 9th, 2006 with a Gleason rating of 9. The cancer hasn't spread into my bones yet. it has spread to my lungs & bladder. I am taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ will heal me as a testimony to his love. 2 Chronicles 20 On Jul 16, 2007, at 2:40 PM, B G wrote: > You can send contacts to your Bluetooth device. > > The button is for pairing devices. > > You need to use the "send this card" feature to send info to phone > etc. > > To transfer all the data you need to use Sync. > > BG > > > > > On Jul 16, 2007, at 11:45 AM, James Paul Manley wrote: > >> What is the bluetooth button for in the address book? I though you >> could copy your contacts from the Mac to the phone. Afterall they >> all see eath other. But according to Apple & Quest you can't. What >> is the button in the Mac address book for? >> >> --- >> James Paul Manley >> Albuquerque, New Mexico >> >> http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements >> http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html >> >> My name is James Paul Manley, I am 58 years old and I was >> diagnosed with Prostate Cancer on August 9th, 2006 >> with a Gleason rating of 9. The cancer hasn't spread >> into my bones yet. it has spread to my lungs & bladder. >> I am taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced >> that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ will heal me as >> a testimony to his love. >> >> 2 Chronicles 20 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> iBook mailing list >> iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From skygram at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 17:20:55 2007 From: skygram at gmail.com (Skygram) Date: Mon Jul 16 17:21:07 2007 Subject: [iBook] Bluetooth in address book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi James, Check out this Apple web page. http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/devices.html I bought a new Bluetooth cell phone recently and I was happy to discover that it was compatible with iSync. I hope your phone is too. All the best, Bill Montreal From jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 17:44:41 2007 From: jesus.is.healing.my.cancer at gmail.com (James Paul Manley) Date: Mon Jul 16 17:44:54 2007 Subject: [iBook] Bluetooth in address book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F231BCF-5C66-4956-A8E3-2D0CC7C154BA@gmail.com> I am trying to get isync to copy my address book contacts to my phone. Name, number, address the whole deal. --- James Paul Manley Albuquerque, New Mexico http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Photoshop_Elements http://web.mac.com/jamespmanley/iWeb/Gods_plan/Welcome.html My name is James Paul Manley, I am 58 years old and I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer on August 9th, 2006 with a Gleason rating of 9. The cancer hasn't spread into my bones yet. it has spread to my lungs & bladder. I am taking Casodex pills & Zoledex shots. I am convinced that my GOD and Lord Jesus Christ will heal me as a testimony to his love. 2 Chronicles 20 On Jul 16, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Skygram wrote: > Hi James, > > Check out this Apple web page. > > http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/isync/devices.html > > I bought a new Bluetooth cell phone recently and I was happy to > discover > that it was compatible with iSync. > > I hope your phone is too. > > All the best, > > Bill > Montreal > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From janicejorgensen at charter.net Tue Jul 17 08:36:09 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Tue Jul 17 08:27:15 2007 Subject: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook Message-ID: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> I have an USB dual ibook 500 mg. the optical drive is gone. I need to re- install os x 10.4. the hard drive is 10 gig and is empty right now. i had it installed previously. I hear maybe i can use a firewire ...etc. Any good explicit instructions out there. I have also heard that it cannot be done.. with my ibook model. HELP!!!!!!! thanks so much Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070717/144c6003/attachment-0001.html From Patrickool at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 17 08:31:30 2007 From: Patrickool at roadrunner.com (Patrick Gillen) Date: Tue Jul 17 08:31:35 2007 Subject: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook In-Reply-To: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <0A0BF94C-5FE5-4F04-841F-C5CF7EEA8156@roadrunner.com> If you have another Macintosh with a firewire port you can plug them into each other with a 6 Pin to 6 Pin FireWire cable. Start up the iBook holding down T and a FireWire icon will begin moving on the screen. Soon thereafter the iBooks drive will appear in the other Macs desktop as a standard FireWire drive that you can install OS X onto using the other mac. On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > I have an USB dual ibook 500 mg. > the optical drive is gone. > I need to re- install os x 10.4. the hard drive is 10 gig and is > empty right now. i had it installed previously. I hear maybe i can > use a firewire ...etc. Any good explicit instructions out there. > > I have also heard that it cannot be done.. with my ibook model. > HELP!!!!!!! > > thanks so much > > Janice F. Jorgensen > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070717/0898826d/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Tue Jul 17 08:46:00 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Tue Jul 17 08:36:53 2007 Subject: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook References: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <0A0BF94C-5FE5-4F04-841F-C5CF7EEA8156@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <006b01c7c889$92d69680$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> I have a new macbook.. . where are there good directions..as i have not done this before. thanks Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Gillen To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook If you have another Macintosh with a firewire port you can plug them into each other with a 6 Pin to 6 Pin FireWire cable. Start up the iBook holding down T and a FireWire icon will begin moving on the screen. Soon thereafter the iBooks drive will appear in the other Macs desktop as a standard FireWire drive that you can install OS X onto using the other mac. On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: I have an USB dual ibook 500 mg. the optical drive is gone. I need to re- install os x 10.4. the hard drive is 10 gig and is empty right now. i had it installed previously. I hear maybe i can use a firewire ...etc. Any good explicit instructions out there. I have also heard that it cannot be done.. with my ibook model. HELP!!!!!!! thanks so much Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070717/b38ad655/attachment.html From maryh at brucetelecom.com Tue Jul 17 12:22:37 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Tue Jul 17 12:23:35 2007 Subject: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook In-Reply-To: <006b01c7c889$92d69680$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <0A0BF94C-5FE5-4F04-841F-C5CF7EEA8156@roadrunner.com> <006b01c7c889$92d69680$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: At 11:46 AM -0400 7/17/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: >I have a new macbook.. . where are there good directions..as i have >not done this before. Install OS X via FireWire Target Disk Mode Your iBook HD is only 10 Gig? You should do a custom install, leaving out the extra languages, printer drivers, and the apps you won't be using. (GarageBand, for example, takes up a LOT of space.) M From patdart2 at mac.com Tue Jul 17 16:04:55 2007 From: patdart2 at mac.com (Pat) Date: Tue Jul 17 16:05:03 2007 Subject: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook In-Reply-To: References: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <0A0BF94C-5FE5-4F04-841F-C5CF7EEA8156@roadrunner.com> <006b01c7c889$92d69680$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: This brings up a question...can I trash some of those even tho' mine's already installed??????? Also, how can I, or can I move OSX to a TiBook 400 from my iMac? Pat On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Mary H. wrote: > Your iBook HD is only 10 Gig? You should do a custom install, > leaving out the extra languages, printer drivers, and the apps you > won't be using. (GarageBand, for example, takes up a LOT of space.) > > M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070717/dd207b8f/attachment.html From scruss at scruss.com Tue Jul 17 16:24:00 2007 From: scruss at scruss.com (Stewart C. Russell) Date: Tue Jul 17 16:24:10 2007 Subject: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook In-Reply-To: References: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <0A0BF94C-5FE5-4F04-841F-C5CF7EEA8156@roadrunner.com> <006b01c7c889$92d69680$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <469D4F90.5070602@scruss.com> Pat wrote: > This brings up a question...can I trash some of those even tho' mine's > already installed??????? Yup, or well, parts of them. Jay Hill recommended Disk Inventory X , and it shows where huge files live. I zapped most of the iDVD themes and GarageBand loops, and got back 7GB. Stewart From rck774200 at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 18:10:00 2007 From: rck774200 at gmail.com (Bob Kennedy) Date: Tue Jul 17 18:10:08 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB Message-ID: Re.: installing OS X 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB. Excellent detailed instructions at these two articles. SEE: http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0710.html Installing OS X 10.4 'Tiger' on DVD-Challenged Macs Using FireWire Target Disk Mode Charles W Moore - 2006.07.10 And importantly, his followup at : http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0914.html Using FireWire Target Disk Mode to Install OS X on Macs without DVD Drives Good luck! - Bob K. Message: 8 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:36:09 -0400 From: "Janice F. Jorgensen" Subject: [iBook] reinstall OS x 10.4 with firewire on usb dual ibook To: "iBook List" Message-ID: <003001c7c888$32a17ce0$7202a8c0 @Hadleyoffice> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have an USB dual ibook 500 mg. the optical drive is gone. I need to re- install os x 10.4. the hard drive is 10 gig and is empty right now. i had it installed previously. I hear maybe i can use a firewire ...etc. Any good explicit instructions out there. I have also heard that it cannot be done.. with my ibook model. HELP!!!!!!! thanks so much Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070717/af5fba3e/attachment-0001.html From joereform at mac.com Tue Jul 17 18:42:18 2007 From: joereform at mac.com (Joe Roberts) Date: Tue Jul 17 18:42:23 2007 Subject: [iBook] Happy iCal day! Message-ID: In case you haven't noticed, today is the day the iCal icon on your computer doesn't change dates when you open it. From niteflytes at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 18:44:31 2007 From: niteflytes at gmail.com (Catherine W.) Date: Tue Jul 17 18:44:41 2007 Subject: [iBook] Happy iCal day! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: and it's my birthday :-) On Jul 17, 2007, at 9:42 PM, Joe Roberts wrote: > In case you haven't noticed, today is the day the iCal icon on your > computer doesn't change dates when you open it. > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 17 18:50:04 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Tue Jul 17 18:50:14 2007 Subject: [iBook] Happy iCal day! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <67AE3512-A262-4C5F-9A45-471B09C7EFD5@sbcglobal.net> Good eye, Joe! :) On Jul 17, 2007, at 9:42 PM, Joe Roberts wrote: > In case you haven't noticed, today is the day the iCal icon on your > computer doesn't change dates when you open it. > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From cmmac at sonic.net Tue Jul 17 18:50:30 2007 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Tue Jul 17 18:54:27 2007 Subject: [iBook] Happy iCal day! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:42 PM -0500 7/17/07, Joe Roberts wrote: >In case you haven't noticed, today is the day the iCal icon on your >computer doesn't change dates when you open it. Step back from the computer. Go out into the real world. Smell some flowers. Search (visually or audibly, not using Google, Yahoo or any other "Search Engine") for a life. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From joereform at mac.com Tue Jul 17 21:08:25 2007 From: joereform at mac.com (Joe Roberts) Date: Tue Jul 17 21:08:35 2007 Subject: [iBook] Happy iCal day! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <750301A7-DB0B-425F-B3E3-28AED689E865@mac.com> On Jul 17, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > At 8:42 PM -0500 7/17/07, Joe Roberts wrote: >> In case you haven't noticed, today is the day the iCal icon on >> your computer doesn't change dates when you open it. > > Step back from the computer. Go out into the real world. Smell > some flowers. Search (visually or audibly, not using Google, Yahoo > or any other "Search Engine") for a life. > -- > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting ^^^^^^^ So says the guy who makes a career from sitting in front of his Mac :) From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 17:53:24 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 17:53:35 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: Message-ID: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Ok..i am stuck. I have the ibook with Target disk.. I have the os x 10.4 disk installed in macbook (this disk is not the macbook os x 10.4 version) the target disk shows up on my macbook desktop the install disk shows up on desktop when i open it /click on it.. the only message that comes up is Mac OS x 10.4 cannot be installon on this machine. I am not sure which machine it is referring to... How do i get it to know it is to install on the ibook? I don't get to the select a destination... thanks Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kennedy To: ibook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB Re.: installing OS X 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB. Excellent detailed instructions at these two articles. SEE: http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0710.html Installing OS X 10.4 'Tiger' on DVD-Challenged Macs Using FireWire Target Disk Mode Charles W Moore - 2006.07.10 And importantly, his followup at : http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0914.html Using FireWire Target Disk Mode to Install OS X on Macs without DVD Drives Good luck! - Bob K. Message: 8 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:36:09 -0400 I have an USB dual ibook 500 mg. the optical drive is gone. I need to re- install os x 10.4. the hard drive is 10 gig and is empty right now. i had it installed previously. I hear maybe i can use a firewire ...etc. Any good explicit instructions out there. I have also heard that it cannot be done.. with my ibook model. HELP!!!!!!! thanks so much Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/20918ca7/attachment.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 18:52:56 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 18:53:03 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net> Janice, Start the MacBook from the OS X DVD while the iBook is in Target Disk mode. When you start the installation from the DVD (or CD) this way, the target disk (iBook) should show as a destination disk. If you are seeing the OS X install disk on the desktop, then you may have started from the MacBook HD. Shawn On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > > Ok..i am stuck. > I have the ibook with Target disk.. > I have the os x 10.4 disk installed in macbook (this disk is not > the macbook os x 10.4 version) > the target disk shows up on my macbook desktop > the install disk shows up on desktop > when i open it /click on it.. the only message that comes up is Mac > OS x 10.4 cannot be installon on this machine. > I am not sure which machine it is referring to... > How do i get it to know it is to install on the ibook? > > I don't get to the select a destination... > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/a383d2c7/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 18:56:49 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 18:56:59 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> how do i start the macbook from osx dvd? i think that is my problem. thanks I had seen the osx on the desktop Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB Janice, Start the MacBook from the OS X DVD while the iBook is in Target Disk mode. When you start the installation from the DVD (or CD) this way, the target disk (iBook) should show as a destination disk. If you are seeing the OS X install disk on the desktop, then you may have started from the MacBook HD. Shawn On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: Ok..i am stuck. I have the ibook with Target disk.. I have the os x 10.4 disk installed in macbook (this disk is not the macbook os x 10.4 version) the target disk shows up on my macbook desktop the install disk shows up on desktop when i open it /click on it.. the only message that comes up is Mac OS x 10.4 cannot be installon on this machine. I am not sure which machine it is referring to... How do i get it to know it is to install on the ibook? I don't get to the select a destination... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/a4818725/attachment-0001.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 19:01:58 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:02:06 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net> <001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: Janice, I think it's the same as the pre-Intel Macs. With the DVD in the drive, restart the MacBook while holding down the "Option" key, IIRC. You should get a choice of starting from the DVD or the MacBook HD. Select the DVD, then continue with the installation of OS X onto the iBook HD (in target disk mode). Shawn On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > how do i start the macbook from osx dvd? i think that is my > problem. thanks I had seen the osx on the desktop > Janice F. Jorgensen > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/4b0b72eb/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 19:08:50 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:08:54 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> I did that. first it asks for my firmware password..and i put that in and then it just shows my harddrive..no dvd...hmmmmmm Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB Janice, I think it's the same as the pre-Intel Macs. With the DVD in the drive, restart the MacBook while holding down the "Option" key, IIRC. You should get a choice of starting from the DVD or the MacBook HD. Select the DVD, then continue with the installation of OS X onto the iBook HD (in target disk mode). Shawn On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: how do i start the macbook from osx dvd? i think that is my problem. thanks I had seen the osx on the desktop Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/29692fa2/attachment.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 19:14:24 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:14:37 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net> What version of OS X came pre-installed on the MacBook? What version of OS X is the DVD you are trying to use? The MacBook may not be able to boot from a version of OS X earlier than the one it came with. On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > I did that. first it asks for my firmware password..and i put that > in and then it just shows my harddrive..no dvd...hmmmmmm > Janice F. Jorgensen > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/1a728a11/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 19:18:39 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:18:50 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <006801c7c9ab$1ed22e70$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> i have a version of os 10.4 early one that i got from my MUG group at UMass... and then i have the version with the macbook which is 2 disks.. not sure ot the version there..but i got it 2 months ago.. Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB What version of OS X came pre-installed on the MacBook? What version of OS X is the DVD you are trying to use? The MacBook may not be able to boot from a version of OS X earlier than the one it came with. On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: I did that. first it asks for my firmware password..and i put that in and then it just shows my harddrive..no dvd...hmmmmmm Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/4b0bc99c/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 19:19:52 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:19:53 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <008b01c7c9ab$4a1be080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> both ar os x 10.4 Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB What version of OS X came pre-installed on the MacBook? What version of OS X is the DVD you are trying to use? The MacBook may not be able to boot from a version of OS X earlier than the one it came with. On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: I did that. first it asks for my firmware password..and i put that in and then it just shows my harddrive..no dvd...hmmmmmm Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/61191db6/attachment.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 19:27:55 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:28:05 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <008b01c7c9ab$4a1be080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net> <008b01c7c9ab$4a1be080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <9125EC85-C9D5-49E2-8CA4-82EFD8E779EA@sbcglobal.net> I think the Mac Book shipped with 10.4.6, what version (10.4.x) is the DVD? On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:19 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > both ar os x 10.4 > Janice F. Jorgensen > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shawn Harley > To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:14 PM > Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on > dual USB ibook 500 MB > > What version of OS X came pre-installed on the MacBook? > > What version of OS X is the DVD you are trying to use? > > The MacBook may not be able to boot from a version of OS X earlier > than the one it came with. > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > >> I did that. first it asks for my firmware password..and i put >> that in and then it just shows my harddrive..no dvd...hmmmmmm >> Janice F. Jorgensen >> janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet >> > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/bf2843bf/attachment-0001.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 19:33:27 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:33:35 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net><008b01c7c9ab$4a1be080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <9125EC85-C9D5-49E2-8CA4-82EFD8E779EA@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <00ae01c7c9ad$2fe7bcf0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> how do i find that out.. the cd has a date on it of 4/27/07... Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB I think the Mac Book shipped with 10.4.6, what version (10.4.x) is the DVD? On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:19 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: both ar os x 10.4 Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB What version of OS X came pre-installed on the MacBook? What version of OS X is the DVD you are trying to use? The MacBook may not be able to boot from a version of OS X earlier than the one it came with. On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: I did that. first it asks for my firmware password..and i put that in and then it just shows my harddrive..no dvd...hmmmmmm Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/d95a0985/attachment.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 19:40:29 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:40:49 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <006801c7c9ab$1ed22e70$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net> <006801c7c9ab$1ed22e70$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <5381E7F4-BACE-4117-8C88-69293077319E@sbcglobal.net> The MacBook may not be able to boot from the version from the MUG (earlier than shipping version). Have you tried booting from the MacBook disc with the iBook in target disk mode? This may not work anyway, as the MacBook has an Intel version of OS X, and the iBook will need the PPC version of OS X. You may need to contact someone from the MUG with a PPC Mac and install it from there onto your iBook in target disk mode. On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:18 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > i have a version of os 10.4 early one that i got from my MUG group > at UMass... and then i have the version with the macbook which is 2 > disks.. not sure ot the version there..but i got it 2 months ago.. > Janice F. Jorgensen > > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/b7b1ac44/attachment.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 19:45:41 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:45:58 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <00ae01c7c9ad$2fe7bcf0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net><008b01c7c9ab$4a1be080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <9125EC85-C9D5-49E2-8CA4-82EFD8E779EA@sbcglobal.net> <00ae01c7c9ad$2fe7bcf0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: Insert the DVD or CD into the drive. When it mounts on the desktop, right-click on it and select "Get Info", or left-click on it once and hold down the "Apple key " and the "I key". On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > how do i find that out.. the cd has a date on it of 4/27/07... > Janice F. Jorgensen > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/4c8ee7bd/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 19:47:00 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:47:09 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net><006801c7c9ab$1ed22e70$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <5381E7F4-BACE-4117-8C88-69293077319E@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <002001c7c9af$14899850$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Looks like that is what i am going to have to do. thanks for your patience and thoroughness in the explanations. Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB The MacBook may not be able to boot from the version from the MUG (earlier than shipping version). Have you tried booting from the MacBook disc with the iBook in target disk mode? This may not work anyway, as the MacBook has an Intel version of OS X, and the iBook will need the PPC version of OS X. You may need to contact someone from the MUG with a PPC Mac and install it from there onto your iBook in target disk mode. On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:18 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: i have a version of os 10.4 early one that i got from my MUG group at UMass... and then i have the version with the macbook which is 2 disks.. not sure ot the version there..but i got it 2 months ago.. Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/720e4940/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Wed Jul 18 19:48:38 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:48:45 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net><008b01c7c9ab$4a1be080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><9125EC85-C9D5-49E2-8CA4-82EFD8E779EA@sbcglobal.net><00ae01c7c9ad$2fe7bcf0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <003201c7c9af$4f3128b0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> only ever says 10.4 Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Harley To: A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers. Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB Insert the DVD or CD into the drive. When it mounts on the desktop, right-click on it and select "Get Info", or left-click on it once and hold down the "Apple key " and the "I key". On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: how do i find that out.. the cd has a date on it of 4/27/07... Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ iBook mailing list iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/6035be5c/attachment-0001.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 19:54:17 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:54:28 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <003201c7c9af$4f3128b0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net><008b01c7c9ab$4a1be080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><9125EC85-C9D5-49E2-8CA4-82EFD8E779EA@sbcglobal.net><00ae01c7c9ad$2fe7bcf0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <003201c7c9af$4f3128b0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <97078CCC-1E6A-41E9-B019-7E72309C3686@sbcglobal.net> Then it may be too early of a version (pre-10.4.6) to boot the MacBook. On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > only ever says 10.4 > > Janice F. Jorgensen > > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/627af9c2/attachment.html From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 18 20:31:42 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Wed Jul 18 20:31:55 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <002001c7c9af$14899850$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net><006801c7c9ab$1ed22e70$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <5381E7F4-BACE-4117-8C88-69293077319E@sbcglobal.net> <002001c7c9af$14899850$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <50ADF81B-2343-46EC-AFB8-149954465D4B@sbcglobal.net> You're welcome and good luck! On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > Looks like that is what i am going to have to do. thanks for your > patience and thoroughness in the explanations. > Janice F. Jorgensen > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070718/6e5f9a46/attachment.html From maryh at brucetelecom.com Wed Jul 18 20:34:39 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Wed Jul 18 20:35:13 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <97078CCC-1E6A-41E9-B019-7E72309C3686@sbcglobal.net> References: <015201c7c99f $35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcg lobal.net><001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><004e01c7c9a9$bfdc72a0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoff ice><7989E3F7-9B5F-4576-86E7-BA9FA21B9730@sbcglobal.net><008b01c7c9ab$4a1b e080$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice><9125EC85-C9D5-49E2-8CA4-82EFD8E779EA@sbcglobal .net><00ae01c7c9ad$2fe7bcf0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <003201c7c9af$4f3128b0$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <97078CCC-1E6A-41E9-B019-7E72309C3686@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: At 10:54 PM -0400 7/18/07, Shawn Harley wrote: >Then it may be too early of a version (pre-10.4.6) to boot the MacBook. > > >On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > >>only ever says 10.4 If it's just the one disc then it sounds like it's a (so-called) retail or generic OS X 10.4 install disc. I think the barrier we're seeing is due to the transition from PPC to Intel hardware. But I'm pretty sure the install can be done by trying a different method. iBook is powered on. MacBook is powered on. Insert install disc into MacBook. Choose "Restart" from the blue Apple menu on MacBook. At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. Connect FireWire cable to both machines. You should see the OS X install disc icon on the desktop of the iBook. (You will also see the icon of the MacBook HD.) I'm pretty sure the installer will now work for you - it will say that it will begin the process by restarting your iBook. After restart you should be able to choose your iBook HD as the destination for the install. M From briang113 at pacbell.net Wed Jul 18 20:37:33 2007 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Wed Jul 18 20:37:43 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: Your other option is to use an external firewire optical drive plugged into the ibook. You should be able to boot from it. BG On Jul 18, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > > Ok..i am stuck. > I have the ibook with Target disk.. > I have the os x 10.4 disk installed in macbook (this disk is not > the macbook os x 10.4 version) > the target disk shows up on my macbook desktop > the install disk shows up on desktop > when i open it /click on it.. the only message that comes up is Mac > OS x 10.4 cannot be installon on this machine. > I am not sure which machine it is referring to... > How do i get it to know it is to install on the ibook? > > I don't get to the select a destination... > > thanks > Janice F. Jorgensen > > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Kennedy > To: ibook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:10 PM > Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4,optical drive gone on dual > USB ibook 500 MB > > Re.: installing OS X 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 > MB. > > Excellent detailed instructions at these two articles. > > SEE: > > http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0710.html > Installing OS X 10.4 'Tiger' on DVD-Challenged Macs Using FireWire > Target Disk Mode > Charles W Moore - 2006.07.10 > > And importantly, his followup at : > > http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0914.html > Using FireWire Target Disk Mode to Install OS X on Macs without DVD > Drives > > Good luck! > - Bob K. > > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:36:09 -0400 > > > I have an USB dual ibook 500 mg. > the optical drive is gone. > I need to re- install os x 10.4. the hard drive is 10 gig and is > empty right now. i had it installed previously. I hear maybe i can > use a firewire ...etc. Any good explicit instructions out there. > > I have also heard that it cannot be done.. with my ibook model. > HELP!!!!!!! > > thanks so much > > Janice F. Jorgensen > janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet > > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From maryh at brucetelecom.com Wed Jul 18 21:07:16 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Wed Jul 18 21:07:44 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: References: <015201c7c99f$35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: At 8:37 PM -0700 7/18/07, B G wrote: >Your other option is to use an external firewire optical drive >plugged into the ibook. That's kinda what I've just suggested, in that the MacBook's optical drive will be used as an external optical drive for the iBook via Target Disk Mode. I've tested this - it works here. Hope it works for Janice. M From cmmac at sonic.net Wed Jul 18 21:15:56 2007 From: cmmac at sonic.net (Clark Martin) Date: Wed Jul 18 21:18:49 2007 Subject: [iBook] re.: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on dual USB ibook 500 MB In-Reply-To: References: <015201c7c99f $35ff3810$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> <4D22A404-CD77-4CC0-BB5D-8D83DD5FCE72@sbcglobal.net> <001d01c7c9a8$1223c010$7202a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: At 10:01 PM -0400 7/18/07, Shawn Harley wrote: >Janice, > >I think it's the same as the pre-Intel Macs. With the DVD in the >drive, restart the MacBook while holding down the "Option" key, IIRC. > >You should get a choice of starting from the DVD or the MacBook HD. >Select the DVD, then continue with the installation of OS X onto the >iBook HD (in target disk mode). I don't think you can do that. The MacBook should only boot from IT'S Tiger CD. AFAIK the retail Tiger won't boot Intel machines. >Shawn > > >On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > >>how do i start the macbook from osx dvd? i think that is my >>problem. thanks I had seen the osx on the desktop >>Janice F. Jorgensen >>janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet >> Go back to putting the DVD into the MacBook and starting it in Target Disk Mode. Then start the iBook and hold down the option key. You should see the iBook HD, MacBook HD and the DVD, select the DVD. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" From matthurst at fastmail.co.uk Thu Jul 19 02:18:12 2007 From: matthurst at fastmail.co.uk (Matt Hurst) Date: Thu Jul 19 02:18:16 2007 Subject: [iBook] latest OS X upgrade flakey Message-ID: Is it my iBook (please no...) or is the latest OS X upgrade a tad flakey? I've started having black screens of death since I installed it, which I never did before. Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070719/36fadbc1/attachment.html From howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz Thu Jul 19 22:32:08 2007 From: howard.pettigrew at xtra.co.nz (Howard Pettigrew) Date: Thu Jul 19 22:34:43 2007 Subject: [iBook] latest OS X upgrade flakey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92705E35-B40E-499B-8FE2-4C8EB00A7F22@xtra.co.nz> Matt, I had a sick laptop which I was limping along with to our holiday break here in NZ so I could do without it to get it fixed. For some stupid reason (I was tired) I upgraded to 10.4.10 and it turned my laptop into pooch! When it restarted , it went into a kernal panic which nothing could fix. A short time on the Apple Discussion boards found that lots of other people had huge problems too. Cheers H On 19/07/2007, at 9:18 PM, Matt Hurst wrote: > Is it my iBook (please no...) or is the latest OS X upgrade a tad > flakey? I've started having black screens of death since I > installed it, which I never did before. > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From matthurst at fastmail.co.uk Fri Jul 20 01:25:28 2007 From: matthurst at fastmail.co.uk (Matt Hurst) Date: Fri Jul 20 01:25:42 2007 Subject: [iBook] latest OS X upgrade flakey In-Reply-To: <92705E35-B40E-499B-8FE2-4C8EB00A7F22@xtra.co.nz> References: <92705E35-B40E-499B-8FE2-4C8EB00A7F22@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Thanks. That's cheered me up ;) I guess I'll just have to wait for the next patch... Matt On 20/07/07, Howard Pettigrew wrote: > > Matt, I had a sick laptop which I was limping along with to our > holiday break here in NZ so I could do without it to get it fixed. > For some stupid reason (I was tired) I upgraded to 10.4.10 and it > turned my laptop into pooch! When it restarted , it went into a > kernal panic which nothing could fix. A short time on the Apple > Discussion boards found that lots of other people had huge problems too. > Cheers > H > On 19/07/2007, at 9:18 PM, Matt Hurst wrote: > > > Is it my iBook (please no...) or is the latest OS X upgrade a tad > > flakey? I've started having black screens of death since I > > installed it, which I never did before. > > > > Matt > > _______________________________________________ > > iBook mailing list > > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070720/839c2ff9/attachment-0001.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Fri Jul 20 07:00:19 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Fri Jul 20 07:00:23 2007 Subject: [iBook]: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on References: <20070719152317.QOMC27907.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.2]> Message-ID: <001401c7cad6$4ed14c60$7102a8c0@Hadleyoffice> See the red... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Williams" To: ; "Janice F. Jorgensen" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [iBook]: install os x 10.4, optical drive gone on In Digest, Vol 35, Issue 4, the person identified as "Janice F. Jorgensen" thoughtfully said: >Ok..i am stuck. >I have the ibook with Target disk.. >I have the os x 10.4 disk installed in macbook (this disk is not the >macbook os x 10.4 version) >the target disk shows up on my macbook desktop >the install disk shows up on desktop >when i open it /click on it.. the only message that comes up is Mac OS x >10.4 cannot be installon on this machine. >I am not sure which machine it is referring to... >How do i get it to know it is to install on the ibook? > >I don't get to the select a destination... Sounds like you are still booting from the MacBook instead of the Install DVD -- you shouldn't see the MacBook desktop, the Install DVD icon, or the Target Disk icon, as I recall. Did you restart with the Install DVD in the MacBook drive, holding down the C key? That will boot from the DVD, bypassing the MacBook drive, and show you icons of the available hard drives in a window with those marked with a green down-pointing arrow indicating where 10.4 can be installed. it does not bypass the macbook drive. I have retried holding down C key..... thanks..but ????????? Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -- Selah! BWms -= Macintosh: Drinking upstream from the herd... =- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070720/3d5eb456/attachment.html From k2frd at mac.com Fri Jul 20 17:45:03 2007 From: k2frd at mac.com (Fred Stevens K2FRD) Date: Fri Jul 20 17:45:05 2007 Subject: [iBook] latest OS X upgrade flakey In-Reply-To: <92705E35-B40E-499B-8FE2-4C8EB00A7F22@xtra.co.nz> References: <92705E35-B40E-499B-8FE2-4C8EB00A7F22@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: I've also had minor problems with v. 10.4.10. It causes my SETI at Home to quit as soon as it opens. Not a major problem but it's reminiscent of the early Tiger versions. Fred At 5:32 PM +1200 20/7/07, Howard Pettigrew wrote: >Matt, I had a sick laptop which I was limping along with to our holiday break here in NZ so I could do without it to get it fixed. For some stupid reason (I was tired) I upgraded to 10.4.10 and it turned my laptop into pooch! When it restarted , it went into a kernal panic which nothing could fix. A short time on the Apple Discussion boards found that lots of other people had huge problems too. >Cheers >H >On 19/07/2007, at 9:18 PM, Matt Hurst wrote: > >>Is it my iBook (please no...) or is the latest OS X upgrade a tad flakey? I've started having black screens of death since I installed it, which I never did before. >> >>Matt -- 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html From juanm at mac.com Wed Jul 25 04:30:51 2007 From: juanm at mac.com (Juan M) Date: Wed Jul 25 04:31:01 2007 Subject: [iBook] Clamshell iBook: upgrade of CD-ROM to DVD or combo Message-ID: <683ECE72-3506-4C23-8D5B-ECB2ABD01E09@mac.com> Hi I am new to the list so perhaps this has been answered many times. Can the Clamshell iBook with only a CD-ROM be upgraded to a DVD player or a Combo drive (i.e. CDRW/DVD) or even a Superdrive? If so what models DVD/Combo/Superdrives will work? thanks Juan From maryh at brucetelecom.com Wed Jul 25 07:32:59 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Wed Jul 25 07:33:38 2007 Subject: [iBook] Clamshell iBook: upgrade of CD-ROM to DVD or combo In-Reply-To: <683ECE72-3506-4C23-8D5B-ECB2ABD01E09@mac.com> References: <683ECE72-3506-4C23-8D5B-ECB2ABD01E09@mac.com> Message-ID: At 7:30 AM -0400 7/25/07, Juan M wrote: >Hi > >I am new to the list so perhaps this has been answered many times. Hi, and welcome. >Can the Clamshell iBook with only a CD-ROM be upgraded to a DVD >player or a Combo drive (i.e. CDRW/DVD) or even a Superdrive? You might find this page helpful: http://lowendmac.com/misc/06/0814.html Yes, it can be done, but one wonders if it's worth it when newer iBooks with DVD drives are easy to find. M From victoria.duggan at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 25 14:52:23 2007 From: victoria.duggan at ntlworld.com (vicki) Date: Wed Jul 25 14:52:45 2007 Subject: [iBook] pageing andy nicolls Message-ID: <3C5F9444-D885-4ABE-BF08-76860CA7F19F@ntlworld.com> Hi all Andy please get in touch about the 2400 as i had a system crash that wiped all my data so i need you to resend your address so i can send the drive and some cash. many thanks vicki From michaelelliott at mac.com Wed Jul 25 20:36:39 2007 From: michaelelliott at mac.com (Michael Elliott) Date: Wed Jul 25 20:37:03 2007 Subject: [iBook] pageing andy nicolls In-Reply-To: <3C5F9444-D885-4ABE-BF08-76860CA7F19F@ntlworld.com> References: <3C5F9444-D885-4ABE-BF08-76860CA7F19F@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <09D0898E-24A6-4B0E-8524-11910C499C59@mac.com> If you know the rough date of his reply, you can also look at the archives at http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/ michael On Jul 25, 2007, at 4:52 PM, vicki wrote: > Hi all Andy please get in touch about the 2400 as i had a system > crash that wiped all my data so i need you to resend your address > so i can send the drive and some cash. > > many thanks > > > vicki > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From janicejorgensen at charter.net Sat Jul 28 04:57:06 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Sat Jul 28 04:56:44 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive Message-ID: <002201c7d10e$6b4a3080$7102a8c0@Hadleyoffice> I need to get/borrow an external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive so that i can install os x 10.4 on my ibook with a dead optical drive. My ibook is a dual usb.. old... as u can see and i am not sure i want to invest a lot to do this..but this is the only way i will be able to get it working again. i actually can't imagine what else i would use this for... thoughts on where to buy? how much to spend? what kind? thanks Janice janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070728/199760e0/attachment.html From scruss at scruss.com Sat Jul 28 05:55:39 2007 From: scruss at scruss.com (Stewart C. Russell) Date: Sat Jul 28 05:55:48 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: <002201c7d10e$6b4a3080$7102a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <002201c7d10e$6b4a3080$7102a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: <46AB3CCB.6020305@scruss.com> Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > > thoughts on where to buy? how much to spend? what kind? thanks I built one. I got a USB/Firewire 5.25" enclosure for about $40, and had a DVD+/-RW drive in the spares bin. A basic DVD-ROM drive is under $10, a writer $30-40. Takes about 10 minutes to build, but you do need to know which end of a screwdriver to hold. It's ugly, but it works. Stewart From maryh at brucetelecom.com Sat Jul 28 09:30:20 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Sat Jul 28 09:31:04 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: <002201c7d10e$6b4a3080$7102a8c0@Hadleyoffice> References: <002201c7d10e$6b4a3080$7102a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Message-ID: At 7:57 AM -0400 7/28/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: >I need to get/borrow an external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive so >that i can install os x 10.4 on my ibook with a dead optical drive. When you originally posted here about the problem of getting OS X on your iBook I suggested a workaround for using the drive in your MacBook as an external via Target Disk Mode. Did you try that? I tested it here and it works for me. I don't know why it wouldn't work for you. M From skygram at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 10:01:40 2007 From: skygram at gmail.com (Skygram) Date: Sat Jul 28 10:02:18 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't think that the Target Disk Mode worked on Intel MacBooks. However I also tried it on an old iMac to my iBook and it worked great. I needed to install Panther onto the iMac because the wireless adapter doesn't work in Tiger and my iBook uses Tiger. Nevertheless I was able to install Panther on the iMac without any problems using the drive from the iBook. I Googled the problem and found the method described at Low End Mac.com under Miscellaneous Ramblings. Bill From janicejorgensen at charter.net Sat Jul 28 16:02:11 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Sat Jul 28 16:03:19 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have tried and tried with no luck. I think I am doing it correctly... Today I have retried it and found areference to if u have a firmware password it won't work.. I do have a firmware password. I get messages or read info that says it can be done.. The Apple folks say no... And I don't know what else to do... So I learned this is a way I might be able to do it... Needless to say I am very frustrated Mary, I appreciate your assistance... I feel like a dunce in this... Usually I can work these things through with success. thanks -- Janice > From: "Mary H." > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:30:20 -0400 > To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Subject: Re: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive > > At 7:57 AM -0400 7/28/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > >> I need to get/borrow an external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive so >> that i can install os x 10.4 on my ibook with a dead optical drive. > > When you originally posted here about the problem of getting OS X on > your iBook I suggested a workaround for using the drive in your > MacBook as an external via Target Disk Mode. > > Did you try that? I tested it here and it works for me. I don't know > why it wouldn't work for you. > > M > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From s0ledad at hotmail.com Sat Jul 28 16:28:33 2007 From: s0ledad at hotmail.com (Sol Escobar) Date: Sat Jul 28 16:28:42 2007 Subject: [iBook] Everytime I turn the Airport on my iBook freezes!!! what's going on?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi everyone, Basically the problem is that everytime I turn the Airport on the iBook instantly feezes, and I just don't know what's going on.. any ideas? (I have an iBook g4, 1.33, 12inch) thanks in advance! Sol _________________________________________________________________ Put Your Face In Your Space with Windows Live Spaces http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca From maryh at brucetelecom.com Sat Jul 28 17:06:44 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Sat Jul 28 17:07:21 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 7:02 PM -0400 7/28/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: >I have tried and tried with no luck. I think I am doing it correctly... >Today I have retried it and found areference to if u have a firmware >password it won't work.. I do have a firmware password. Yes, a Mac that has Open Firmware password protection cannot be started up in Target Disk Mode. I believe you've said that your iBook is OF password protected. That won't matter here, as it's your MacBook, not your iBook, that will be in Target Disk Mode. Is your MacBook also Open Firmware password protected? If so, then you'll have to disable that on the MacBook. If not, then you will be able to start the MacBook in Target Disk Mode to install OS X on the iBook. A review of the procedure: iBook is powered on. MacBook is powered on. Insert install disc into MacBook. Choose "Restart" from the blue Apple menu on MacBook. At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. Connect FireWire cable to both machines. You should see the OS X install disc icon on the desktop of the iBook. (You will also see the icon of the MacBook HD.) I'm pretty sure the installer will now work for you - it will say that it will begin the process by restarting your iBook. After restart you should be able to choose your iBook HD as the destination for the install. M From maryh at brucetelecom.com Sat Jul 28 17:35:40 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Sat Jul 28 17:36:18 2007 Subject: [iBook] Everytime I turn the Airport on my iBook freezes!!! what's going on?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:28 PM +0000 7/28/07, Sol Escobar wrote: >Hi everyone, >Basically the problem is that everytime I turn the Airport on the >iBook instantly feezes, and I just don't know what's going on.. any >ideas? >(I have an iBook g4, 1.33, 12inch) When you say it freezes, what exactly do you see? Beachball? Unresponsive cursor? How do you get out of the freeze? Has Airport worked properly in the past? What happens when you turn Airport on with a different User Account? M From janicejorgensen at charter.net Sat Jul 28 17:54:24 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Sat Jul 28 17:55:20 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks.. It is my Macbook that has the firmware password. I have been told that I need to go to the apple store to do that... As it is kinda complicated. A new apple store just opened 1 week ago 1/2 hour away. Guess that is where I will be going so I can move ahead. Thank you so much for the detailed step by step description. -- Janice janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet > From: "Mary H." > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:06:44 -0400 > To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Subject: Re: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive > > At 7:02 PM -0400 7/28/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > >> I have tried and tried with no luck. I think I am doing it correctly... >> Today I have retried it and found areference to if u have a firmware >> password it won't work.. I do have a firmware password. > > Yes, a Mac that has Open Firmware password protection cannot be > started up in Target Disk Mode. > > I believe you've said that your iBook is OF password protected. That > won't matter here, as it's your MacBook, not your iBook, that will be > in Target Disk Mode. > > Is your MacBook also Open Firmware password protected? If so, then > you'll have to disable that on the MacBook. If not, then you will be > able to start the MacBook in Target Disk Mode to install OS X on the > iBook. > > A review of the procedure: > > iBook is powered on. > MacBook is powered on. > Insert install disc into MacBook. > Choose "Restart" from the blue Apple menu on MacBook. > > At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook until > you see the FireWire symbol moving around. > Connect FireWire cable to both machines. > > You should see the OS X install disc icon on the desktop of the > iBook. (You will also see the icon of the MacBook HD.) > I'm pretty sure the installer will now work for you - it will say > that it will begin the process by restarting your iBook. After > restart you should be able to choose your iBook HD as the destination > for the install. > > M > > > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 28 18:28:50 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Sat Jul 28 18:29:37 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15E4B748-AE3A-406A-8367-988DCF4E1237@sbcglobal.net> On Jul 28, 2007, at 8:06 PM, Mary H. wrote: > > iBook is powered on. > MacBook is powered on. > Insert install disc into MacBook. > Choose "Restart" from the blue Apple menu on MacBook. > > At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook > until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. > Connect FireWire cable to both machines. Mary and Janice, I'm not sure it will work that way, but it is worth a try. The target computer in this case (MacBook) will mount on the host computer (iBook), but I think only the hard drive (MacBook) will show up on the iBook. Only the master ATA drive will be available to the host computer. Check the tip near the bottom of this link: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583 I hope Mary's suggestion works, but it sounds like it may not. Shawn From shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 28 18:40:29 2007 From: shawn_harley at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Harley) Date: Sat Jul 28 18:40:42 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: <15E4B748-AE3A-406A-8367-988DCF4E1237@sbcglobal.net> References: <15E4B748-AE3A-406A-8367-988DCF4E1237@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <98231958-1267-41DF-9CC1-2EC3337126A4@sbcglobal.net> Mary and Janice, I just found this link, and Mary's suggestion may work after all. Check the last few posts: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t%20%3C/t-70650.html Shawn On Jul 28, 2007, at 9:28 PM, Shawn Harley wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2007, at 8:06 PM, Mary H. wrote: > > >> >> iBook is powered on. >> MacBook is powered on. >> Insert install disc into MacBook. >> Choose "Restart" from the blue Apple menu on MacBook. >> >> At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook >> until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. >> Connect FireWire cable to both machines. > > Mary and Janice, > > I'm not sure it will work that way, but it is worth a try. The > target computer in this case (MacBook) will mount on the host > computer (iBook), but I think only the hard drive (MacBook) will > show up on the iBook. Only the master ATA drive will be available > to the host computer. Check the tip near the bottom of this link: > > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583 > > I hope Mary's suggestion works, but it sounds like it may not. > > Shawn > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From maryh at brucetelecom.com Sat Jul 28 19:20:48 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Sat Jul 28 19:21:24 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: <98231958-1267-41DF-9CC1-2EC3337126A4@sbcglobal.net> References: <15E4B748-AE3A-406A-8367-988DCF4E1237@sbcglobal.net> <98231958-1267-41DF-9CC1-2EC3337126A4@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: At 9:40 PM -0400 7/28/07, Shawn Harley wrote: >Mary and Janice, > >I just found this link, and Mary's suggestion may work after all. >Check the last few posts: > >http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t%20%3C/t-70650.html Ayep, been there, Shawn. ;-) Plus, I tested the procedure here. Works for me. Note that Janice now needs to disable her MacBook's OF password protection in order to use Target Disk Mode. From what she says, it seems that she lacks confidence in her ability to do this. I don't think it's all that difficult but it's her call. M From juanm at mac.com Sun Jul 29 17:11:04 2007 From: juanm at mac.com (Juan M) Date: Sun Jul 29 17:07:24 2007 Subject: [iBook] Clamshell iBook: upgrade of CD-ROM to DVD or combo In-Reply-To: <200707281952.l6SJqv5n027687@mac.com> References: <200707281952.l6SJqv5n027687@mac.com> Message-ID: Thank you to all for answering my question. I am glad I joined the iBook list. We have better (and the latest) intel Macs for other purposes but I just wanted to know if I can upgrade my Clamshell iBook to having a DVD player. Thanks Juan On Jul 28, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Bill Williams wrote: > In ibook Digest, Vol 35, Issue 8, the person identified as Juan M > thoughtfully said: > >> I am new to the list so perhaps this has been answered many times. >> >> Can the Clamshell iBook with only a CD-ROM be upgraded to a DVD >> player or a Combo drive (i.e. CDRW/DVD) or even a Superdrive? > > You =might= be able to, but... when we decided we needed something > lighter than a clamshell to carry on trips (as a depository for 100+ > digital pictures per day) I poked around and came up with PowerMax > . Got a refurbished G3 500mhz iBook from > them > for $600, and they allowed me $150 trade-in on the Indigo iBook. > > Just looked and they have a pre-owned G3 700mhz iBook for $439; > 90-day > warranty. > > Nice folks to deal with, and if/when I decide to upgrade w/o brand new > I'll go back to them. > > > > -- > Selah! > BWms > > -= "Never ask what sort of computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, > he'll tell you. If not, why embarrass him?" -- Tom Clancy =- > From kathialexis at cox.net Sun Jul 29 18:31:59 2007 From: kathialexis at cox.net (Kathi Anderson) Date: Sun Jul 29 18:32:08 2007 Subject: [iBook] dual USB iBook wireless upgrade Message-ID: <003401c7d249$6c3d49f0$6601a8c0@GX280> I have a 500 MHz dual USB G3 iBook running Panther and wish to go wireless. Two things I would like to ask: 1. Where do I go about purchasing an Airport card for my iBook. 2. Will the Airport card work with a Netgear WNR834B RangeMax Next Wireless N Router. I recently purchased a new Toshiba laptop with wireless capability and went with Consumer Reports' recommendation on the wireless router mentioned above. I would like to make my iBook as well as the Toshiba connect to my cable access and it is my understanding that the wireless router is platform independent. Any help on this would be appreciated. Thanks, Kathi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070729/93ca33af/attachment.html From charlesp at ksu.edu Mon Jul 30 07:22:30 2007 From: charlesp at ksu.edu (charlesp@ksu.edu) Date: Mon Jul 30 07:22:42 2007 Subject: [iBook] dual USB iBook wireless upgrade In-Reply-To: <003401c7d249$6c3d49f0$6601a8c0@GX280> References: <003401c7d249$6c3d49f0$6601a8c0@GX280> Message-ID: <1185805349.46adf426029f3@webmail.ksu.edu> Quoting Kathi Anderson : > I have a 500 MHz dual USB G3 iBook running Panther and wish to go > wireless. > > Two things I would like to ask: > > 1. Where do I go about purchasing an Airport card for my iBook. > 2. Will the Airport card work with a Netgear WNR834B RangeMax Next > Wireless N Router. Only the original Airport card will work with that vintage iBook and Apple no longer sells them. You may be able to pick one up on eBay or at computer flea markets. If you do find one, it uses 802.11a (or 802.11b, if forget), which is a pretty slow speed. I think it may slow down your whole network to its speed (someone on this list may know for sure). Instead of an Airport card, maybe you can find a USB wireless adapter that will work on your iBook. If you get an 802.11g, that will be slower than 802.11N, but not as slow as 802.11a or b. I don't know if a USB adapter is available for 802.11n yet or not. At any rate, any wireless card should work with your router--even the original Airport card (if you can find one). Charles Pearce (charlesp@ksu.edu) From jayh at jalehill.com Mon Jul 30 07:27:51 2007 From: jayh at jalehill.com (jay hill) Date: Mon Jul 30 07:28:02 2007 Subject: [iBook] dual USB iBook wireless upgrade In-Reply-To: <003401c7d249$6c3d49f0$6601a8c0@GX280> References: <003401c7d249$6c3d49f0$6601a8c0@GX280> Message-ID: <3b31757f0707300727l1894344kc4de32e6213961d@mail.gmail.com> You need the original 802.11b Airport Card Amazon has them for $85 at http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Airport-Card-Network-adapter/dp/B0000899ZD eBay has some for $69 buy it now. jay On 7/29/07, Kathi Anderson wrote: > > I have a 500 MHz dual USB G3 iBook running Panther and wish to go > wireless. > > Two things I would like to ask: > > 1. Where do I go about purchasing an Airport card for my iBook. > 2. Will the Airport card work with a Netgear WNR834B RangeMax Next > Wireless N Router. > > > > I recently purchased a new Toshiba laptop with wireless capability and > went with Consumer Reports' recommendation on the wireless router mentioned > above. > > I would like to make my iBook as well as the Toshiba connect to my cable > access and it is my understanding that the wireless router is platform > independent. > > > > Any help on this would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks, Kathi > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070730/1828b919/attachment.html From janicejorgensen at charter.net Mon Jul 30 11:18:11 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Mon Jul 30 11:19:11 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: <98231958-1267-41DF-9CC1-2EC3337126A4@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Got firmware password removed. Followed the instructions..and attached the firewire cable to both... The Ibook (without the DVD drive) shows a flashing world The macbook with install disk.. Has the Target Disk Icon. And that is where I am If I plug in the firewire cable to ibook and macbook..i see the drive..etc and its files. I had been able to start new and install some of the osx before the dvd drive became unusuable. The dvd drive quit in the languages. ?????????????? And thanks -- Janice F. Jorgensen > From: Shawn Harley > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:40:29 -0400 > To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Subject: Re: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive > > Mary and Janice, > > I just found this link, and Mary's suggestion may work after all. > Check the last few posts: > > http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t%20%3C/t-70650.html > > Shawn > > On Jul 28, 2007, at 9:28 PM, Shawn Harley wrote: > >> >> On Jul 28, 2007, at 8:06 PM, Mary H. wrote: >> >> >>> >>> iBook is powered on. >>> MacBook is powered on. >>> Insert install disc into MacBook. >>> Choose "Restart" from the blue Apple menu on MacBook. >>> >>> At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook >>> until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. >>> Connect FireWire cable to both machines. >> >> Mary and Janice, >> >> I'm not sure it will work that way, but it is worth a try. The >> target computer in this case (MacBook) will mount on the host >> computer (iBook), but I think only the hard drive (MacBook) will >> show up on the iBook. Only the master ATA drive will be available >> to the host computer. Check the tip near the bottom of this link: >> >> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583 >> >> I hope Mary's suggestion works, but it sounds like it may not. >> >> Shawn >> _______________________________________________ >> iBook mailing list >> iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook From maryh at brucetelecom.com Mon Jul 30 13:43:08 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Mon Jul 30 13:43:44 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 2:18 PM -0400 7/30/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: >Got firmware password removed. Great. >Followed the instructions..and attached the firewire cable to both... >The Ibook (without the DVD drive) shows a flashing world Hmmm, disconnect the FireWire cable from both Macs, for now. (The flashing globe tells us that your iBook is set to "Network Disk" for startup.) I've just reviewed your previous posts and am reminded that you have no OS on the hard drive of the iBook - it's empty - correct? If that's the case, the flashing globe should change to a flashing folder icon with a question mark after a few minits, and then remain that way. Does this happen? If something else happens instead, describe it. >If I plug in the firewire cable to ibook and macbook..i see the drive..etc >and its files. Sorry, I'm having trouble following this. I don't understand what drive you are seeing or where you are seeing it. I'll wait to hear your answers to the questions I've just asked. > I had been able to start new and install some of the osx >before the dvd drive became unusuable. The dvd drive quit in the languages. I don't know what you mean by this. I'll take a guess. You are referring to a much earlier time - a time when you attempted to install OS X on the iBook - and it was then that you found the optical drive to be defective. Correct? Or maybe you mean something else? M From janicejorgensen at charter.net Mon Jul 30 14:18:49 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Mon Jul 30 14:19:57 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: See red below -- Janice F. Jorgensen 150 River Drive Hadley, MA 01035 413-585-0145 > From: "Mary H." > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:43:08 -0400 > To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." > > Subject: Re: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive > > At 2:18 PM -0400 7/30/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: > >> Got firmware password removed. > > Great. > >> Followed the instructions..and attached the firewire cable to both... >> The Ibook (without the DVD drive) shows a flashing world > > Hmmm, disconnect the FireWire cable from both Macs, for now. (The > flashing globe tells us that your iBook is set to "Network Disk" for > startup.) I've just reviewed your previous posts and am reminded that > you have no OS on the hard drive of the iBook - it's empty - correct? > not really empty as it has parts of the install disk..but it won?t boot to it. > If that's the case, the flashing globe should change to a flashing > folder icon with a question mark after a few minits, and then remain > that way. Does this happen? If something else happens instead, > describe it. > yes this is what happens it changes to the flashing folder icon with ? > >> If I plug in the firewire cable to ibook and macbook..i see the drive..etc >> and its files. > > Sorry, I'm having trouble following this. I don't understand what > drive you are seeing or where you are seeing it. I'll wait to hear > your answers to the questions I've just asked. If I just plug in the firewire cable to macbook and ibook.. I can see the ibook hd on the macbook... And that is when I see the the parts of the osx..from before.... > >> I had been able to start new and install some of the osx >> before the dvd drive became unusuable. The dvd drive quit in the languages. > > I don't know what you mean by this. I'll take a guess. You are > referring to a much earlier time - a time when you attempted to > install OS X on the iBook - and it was then that you found the > optical drive to be defective. Correct? Or maybe you mean something > else? Correct. > > M > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070730/d694da71/attachment-0001.html From maryh at brucetelecom.com Mon Jul 30 19:45:37 2007 From: maryh at brucetelecom.com (Mary H.) Date: Mon Jul 30 19:46:14 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:18 PM -0400 7/30/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: >See red below Oh, yeah. ;-) > > you have no OS on the hard drive of the iBook - it's empty - correct? >> not really empty as it has parts of the install disk..but it won't >>boot to it. Understood - no (usable) OS on the Book. >If I just plug in the firewire cable to macbook and ibook.. I can >see the ibook hd on the macbook... And that is when I see the the >parts of the osx..from before.... Well, nevermind that there are "parts" of OS X left over from an incomplete install. You will be erasing that when you do (if possible) your install of OS X on the iBook. So, now we need to find a way to get your iBook to gain access to the OS X install disk contained in the MacBook. Try this: Start by powering off both Macs. Disconnect FireWire cable from both machines, for now. (I assume the OS X install disk is still in the MacBook's optical drive) Start up the MacBook (using the power button). At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. Connect FireWire cable to both machines. Start up the iBook with the Option key held down. Keep the Option key down until you see something on the iBook screen. What, if anything, do you see? (I'm hoping you will be given the option to start up from the OS X disk.) M From kathialexis at cox.net Mon Jul 30 21:14:07 2007 From: kathialexis at cox.net (Kathi Anderson) Date: Mon Jul 30 21:14:13 2007 Subject: [iBook] dual USB iBook wireless upgrade In-Reply-To: <1185805349.46adf426029f3@webmail.ksu.edu> Message-ID: <008801c7d329$3d79f0b0$6601a8c0@GX280> Snip > 1. Where do I go about purchasing an Airport card for my iBook. > 2. Will the Airport card work with a Netgear WNR834B RangeMax Next > Wireless N Router. Only the original Airport card will work with that vintage iBook and Apple no longer sells them. You may be able to pick one up on eBay or at computer flea markets. If you do find one, it uses 802.11a (or 802.11b, if forget), which is a pretty slow speed. I think it may slow down your whole network to its speed (someone on this list may know for sure). Instead of an Airport card, maybe you can find a USB wireless adapter that will work on your iBook. If you get an 802.11g, that will be slower than 802.11N, but not as slow as 802.11a or b. I don't know if a USB adapter is available for 802.11n yet or not. Snip I have already ordered an original Airport card from ebay. I hadn't heard about the slow speed of the 802.11b slowing down the network for everything else. It is not as if it was daisy chained or anything. I will let everyone know when I get it set up. Kathi From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Tue Jul 31 04:21:23 2007 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Tue Jul 31 04:21:39 2007 Subject: [iBook] dual USB iBook wireless upgrade In-Reply-To: <008801c7d329$3d79f0b0$6601a8c0@GX280> References: <008801c7d329$3d79f0b0$6601a8c0@GX280> Message-ID: > I have already ordered an original Airport card from ebay. I hadn't > heard > about the slow speed of the 802.11b slowing down the network for > everything > else. It is not as if it was daisy chained or anything. I will let > everyone > know when I get it set up. It used to be the case that if anything on the wireless network was talking b, the entire network ran at b speed, I seem to recall someone saying that some newer routers didn't work this way. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From janicejorgensen at charter.net Tue Jul 31 04:49:43 2007 From: janicejorgensen at charter.net (Janice F. Jorgensen) Date: Tue Jul 31 04:49:13 2007 Subject: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive References: Message-ID: <005601c7d368$e26ca920$7102a8c0@Hadleyoffice> Did all of that.. the ibook starts up showing 2 things on the screen: an circular arrow in a box/folder and a arrow pointing to the right so i click circular arrow and wait..and wait. 1.. hold down option key and press circular arrow nothing b.. hold down apple key and press circular arrow nothing c.. hold down apple key and ctrl and press circular arrow nothing Now i notice that when i boot the ibook..no longer do i have the "spinning world" goes straight to flashing ? in folder. i found this page and am wondering about doing that to the ibbok. http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/partitioning_tiger.html just the formatting not the partitioning. wondering if that formatting would help get away from the flashing ? etc.... just random thoughts. Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgensenatcharterdotnet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary H." To: "A place to discuss Apple's iBook computers." Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [iBook] external firewire CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drive At 5:18 PM -0400 7/30/07, Janice F. Jorgensen wrote: So, now we need to find a way to get your iBook to gain access to the OS X install disk contained in the MacBook. Try this: Start by powering off both Macs. Disconnect FireWire cable from both machines, for now. (I assume the OS X install disk is still in the MacBook's optical drive) Start up the MacBook (using the power button). At the sound of the start-up chime, hold down T key on MacBook until you see the FireWire symbol moving around. Connect FireWire cable to both machines. Start up the iBook with the Option key held down. Keep the Option key down until you see something on the iBook screen. What, if anything, do you see? (I'm hoping you will be given the option to start up from the OS X disk.) M From jayh at jalehill.com Tue Jul 31 07:16:22 2007 From: jayh at jalehill.com (jay hill) Date: Tue Jul 31 07:16:35 2007 Subject: [iBook] dual USB iBook wireless upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <008801c7d329$3d79f0b0$6601a8c0@GX280> Message-ID: <3b31757f0707310716q3e4f7be7l351d5650ba546846@mail.gmail.com> I pretty sure I've read that all 802.11n routers slow approx. 20-25% mixed mode. You get right at (or slightly over) 100 Mb/s in 802.11n mode when using the 5 GHz band and 75-85 Mb/s in mixed 802.11/b/g/n mode. If I recall correctly the speed drop is caused by mixed mode requiring use of the old 2.4 GHz band. At 5 GHz the N routers are able to transform 2 channels into a single big data pipe, but if implemented at the 2.4 GHz band "channel bonding," as its called, interferes with bluetooth, which operates in the same band. Still 80Mb/s is pretty decent speed. On 7/31/07, Malcolm Cornelius wrote: > > > I have already ordered an original Airport card from ebay. I hadn't > > heard > > about the slow speed of the 802.11b slowing down the network for > > everything > > else. It is not as if it was daisy chained or anything. I will let > > everyone > > know when I get it set up. > > It used to be the case that if anything on the wireless network was > talking b, the entire network ran at b speed, I seem to recall > someone saying that some newer routers didn't work this way. > > -- > Best wishes > > Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic > http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > iBook mailing list > iBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/ibook > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/ibook/attachments/20070731/57d593b3/attachment.html