From becca_price at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 06:53:59 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Tue Jul 1 09:46:28 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Podcast error? In-Reply-To: <719DF0DF-D2A0-40D2-9CF5-1DA067566E67@mac.com> Message-ID: <817132.73720.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, Ken, that seems to have done it. Oddly, the ones I've listened to so far that were marked as podcast errors were complete podcasts, and didn't cut off before the end, , so I'm not sure what the problem was. Doesn't matter, it all worked out in the end. -becca --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Ken Stevens wrote: > Becca - > > I think it may be caused by your Hughes Satellite > connection. Go back > and right click on one of the > little exclamation points and select "update > podcast" from the popup > menu. Hopefully it will now > download. If a podcast server doesn't respond in a > timely manner > iTunes will assume it is an error. > Your connection can cause iTunes to think there's a > problem. Let me > know if it works. > > Ken > On Jun 30, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Becca wrote: > > > I've been away from home for 6 days, so I've > got a slew of podcasts > > to download. I've got the newest version of > iTunes, and I'm seeing > > something I've never seen before - a new > 'podcast error' entry that > > lists a bunch of podcasts. Does this mean that those > podcasts didn't > > download properly? if so, how do I re-download them so > they'll be > > the full podcast? (on some of them, the time looks > right for it to > > be the full podcast.) > > > > curiously, they transferred over to my iPod that way, > under the > > heading Podcast Error rather than under the title of > the podcast > > itself. > > > > iTunes help is no help at all on this matter. > > > > thanks, > > > > - Becca > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > "But its at the edge where science is alive - the > well-known is the > > corpse of science." - "frog" from a > comment on the blog Pharyngula > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > iTunes mailing list > > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From jwegriffin at mac.com Tue Jul 1 07:27:45 2008 From: jwegriffin at mac.com (John Griffin) Date: Tue Jul 1 10:49:54 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Podcast error? In-Reply-To: <50804F74-6A3F-4302-8D22-D3B84C06C515@carruthers.com> References: <343224.16943.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <719DF0DF-D2A0-40D2-9CF5-1DA067566E67@mac.com> <50804F74-6A3F-4302-8D22-D3B84C06C515@carruthers.com> Message-ID: <9BAF0DEB-D4B0-4147-9AD2-15A6FB9CE8CA@mac.com> Another thing that helps with Satellite Internet is to get Cocktail and optimize the Network settings for Satellite connections. This is the only of the many such utilities available for the Mac that actually can tune your network settings for Satellite. But the main problem with Satellite is that often it will often disconnect briefly in the middle of a download and cause a timeout. As far as I know, there is no way around this; it is just something you have to live with. I also use Speed Download. Speed Download tends to stay with the download even if the connection is lost briefly. jg On 1-Jul-08, at 2:39 AM, Jeff Carruthers wrote: > > Becca: if you are using satellite highspeed, I have found that three > things really help: > > - downloading podcasts one at a time (uncheck "allow simultaneous > downloads" on the download page); > > - scheduling the downloads late at night, just when you are heading > to bed (less traffic and fewer time-outs); and > > - if you continue to have errors, resetting the satellite modem > (unplug for a minute or two). > > Satellite highspeed is often bandwidth constrained and the download > times out, with an error being reported by iTunes. > > Hope this helps. > > Jeff > > On Jun 30, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Ken Stevens wrote: > >> Becca - >> >> I think it may be caused by your Hughes Satellite connection. Go >> back and right click on one of the >> little exclamation points and select "update podcast" from the >> popup menu. Hopefully it will now >> download. If a podcast server doesn't respond in a timely manner >> iTunes will assume it is an error. >> Your connection can cause iTunes to think there's a problem. Let >> me know if it works. >> >> Ken >> On Jun 30, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Becca wrote: >> >>> I've been away from home for 6 days, so I've got a slew of >>> podcasts to download. I've got the newest version of iTunes, and >>> I'm seeing something I've never seen before - a new 'podcast >>> error' entry that lists a bunch of podcasts. Does this mean that >>> those podcasts didn't download properly? if so, how do I re- >>> download them so they'll be the full podcast? (on some of them, >>> the time looks right for it to be the full podcast.) >>> >>> curiously, they transferred over to my iPod that way, under the >>> heading Podcast Error rather than under the title of the podcast >>> itself. >>> >>> iTunes help is no help at all on this matter. >>> >>> thanks, >>> >>> - Becca >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is >>> the corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog >>> Pharyngula >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> iTunes mailing list >>> iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> iTunes mailing list >> iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes > > ----------------------------------------------- > Carruthers Communications Tel: 613-278-0390 > 678 2nd Concession N Sherbrooke Cell: 613-720-2350 > R.R. 1, McDonalds Corners, ON K0G 1M0 Fax: 613-278-2929 > www.carruthers.com e-mail: > jeff@carruthers.com > > "There's no such thing as a dumb question." (Anon) > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Tue Jul 1 06:58:25 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Tue Jul 1 10:53:03 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Podcast error? In-Reply-To: <50804F74-6A3F-4302-8D22-D3B84C06C515@carruthers.com> Message-ID: <117725.39550.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, Jeff - I'll uncheck "allow simultaneous downloads" when I next get a download page. and you're right, it probably was a bandwidth issue - one of the biggest complaints I have about our satellite connection. I normally download over night, because there is lower usage on our satellite connection, but I've been out of town for 5 days, and just didn't think about having a week's worth of podcasts downloaded all at once when I connected my iPod to recharge it. -becca --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Jeff Carruthers wrote: Becca: if you are using satellite highspeed, I have found > that three > things really help: > > - downloading podcasts one at a time (uncheck "allow > simultaneous > downloads" on the download page); > > - scheduling the downloads late at night, just when you are > heading to > bed (less traffic and fewer time-outs); and > > - if you continue to have errors, resetting the satellite > modem > (unplug for a minute or two). > > Satellite highspeed is often bandwidth constrained and the > download > times out, with an error being reported by iTunes. > > Hope this helps. > > Jeff From michaelprete at cox.net Wed Jul 2 00:14:52 2008 From: michaelprete at cox.net (Michael Prete) Date: Wed Jul 2 00:15:16 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Podcast error? In-Reply-To: <46A680F6-F05B-4CC3-91FA-659E7D994177@gmail.com> References: <343224.16943.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46A680F6-F05B-4CC3-91FA-659E7D994177@gmail.com> Message-ID: <29891705-62C1-4FA6-9861-33FC091B4059@cox.net> On Jun 30, 2008, at 6:34 PM, i.am.list.boy@gmail.com wrote: > Wondering when was the last time Apple's software help did anything > beyond restate the obvious? I'm sure you will be happy to know that a couple of days ago I called AppleCare for help and received quick, clear accurate assistance. So the answer to your question is : Two days ago. ------------ Michael Prete More will be revealed. From becca_price at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 17:08:44 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Thu Jul 3 17:08:55 2008 Subject: [iTunes] more problems with iTunes Message-ID: <911535.76698.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yesterday, my copy of iTunes froze up, and I had to use CTRL+ALT+DEL (I"m on a Windows XP box) to shut it down. Now, iTunes come up, but totally blank - I've lost my entire library. Somebody posted the name of the file that I should import to restore my library, but I can't find that post - help! -Becca -------------------------------------------- "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula From kestevens at mac.com Thu Jul 3 17:42:21 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Thu Jul 3 17:42:35 2008 Subject: [iTunes] more problems with iTunes In-Reply-To: <911535.76698.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <911535.76698.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <651EBFDE-21BF-45F3-9644-98607BF610D2@mac.com> Hi Becca: It was me. Look in your Music Folder for a file named iTunes Library.xml. You can use the import this file into iTunes and all your playlists etc should be restored. Ken On Jul 3, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Becca wrote: > Yesterday, my copy of iTunes froze up, and I had to use CTRL+ALT+DEL > (I"m on a Windows XP box) to shut it down. Now, iTunes come up, but > totally blank - I've lost my entire library. Somebody posted the > name of the file that I should import to restore my library, but I > can't find that post - help! > > -Becca > > -------------------------------------------- > "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the > corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 17:56:48 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Thu Jul 3 17:57:04 2008 Subject: [iTunes] more problems with iTunes In-Reply-To: <651EBFDE-21BF-45F3-9644-98607BF610D2@mac.com> Message-ID: <967702.11379.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Becca: > > It was me. Look in your Music Folder for a file named > iTunes > Library.xml. You can use the import > this file into iTunes and all your playlists etc should be > restored. I found the file, but when I import it, nothing happens. -becca From kestevens at mac.com Thu Jul 3 18:09:32 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Thu Jul 3 18:09:50 2008 Subject: [iTunes] more problems with iTunes In-Reply-To: <967702.11379.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <967702.11379.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F4513A2-10ED-4087-A76F-959F63901098@mac.com> I was afraid of that. Whenever you quit iTunes it saves the playlist to that file. You must have quit iTunes after you saw it was blank. I think XP has a restore system feature. Why not try restoring the computer to the last point before your iTunes freeze. If I am wrong about the restore function I hope you have a recent backup. If not, you may be out of luck. I never used to back up my files and lost a hard drive one day. One sad fact is that everyone will have a hard drive fail sooner or later. Its a sad day, if you don't have a backup. Ken On Jul 3, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Becca wrote: > Hi Becca: >> >> It was me. Look in your Music Folder for a file named >> iTunes >> Library.xml. You can use the import >> this file into iTunes and all your playlists etc should be >> restored. > > I found the file, but when I import it, nothing happens. > > -becca > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From ddelmonte at mac.com Fri Jul 4 03:04:16 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Fri Jul 4 03:04:30 2008 Subject: [iTunes] more problems with iTunes In-Reply-To: <6F4513A2-10ED-4087-A76F-959F63901098@mac.com> References: <967702.11379.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6F4513A2-10ED-4087-A76F-959F63901098@mac.com> Message-ID: <63886A98-3576-4A3A-81DC-5EC5636F5BC1@mac.com> I don't know Windows very well. but look for the actual music files. If they are there, you can start iTunes - even though it's empty and re-import all your songs - through "add to library". You wont have your playlists but you will have your music back. You can easily create smartplaylists by artist, album, genre, etc. Finally, as Ken said, with multi media and personal stuff, you have to have backups. In fact, I have two copies of backups on two separate external drives. David On Jul 3, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Ken Stevens wrote: I was afraid of that. Whenever you quit iTunes it saves the playlist to that file. You must have quit iTunes after you saw it was blank. I think XP has a restore system feature. Why not try restoring the computer to the last point before your iTunes freeze. If I am wrong about the restore function I hope you have a recent backup. If not, you may be out of luck. I never used to back up my files and lost a hard drive one day. One sad fact is that everyone will have a hard drive fail sooner or later. Its a sad day, if you don't have a backup. Ken On Jul 3, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Becca wrote: > Hi Becca: >> >> It was me. Look in your Music Folder for a file named >> iTunes >> Library.xml. You can use the import >> this file into iTunes and all your playlists etc should be >> restored. > > I found the file, but when I import it, nothing happens. > > -becca > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes _______________________________________________ iTunes mailing list iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Fri Jul 4 08:48:30 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Fri Jul 4 08:48:42 2008 Subject: [iTunes] more problems with iTunes In-Reply-To: <63886A98-3576-4A3A-81DC-5EC5636F5BC1@mac.com> Message-ID: <206131.73743.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> sh*t. It looks like all my books (except Audible) are gone, and all my music is gone. The whole file is empty - even the stuff I downloaded from iTunes is gone. that'll teach me not to back up more frequently. -becca From kestevens at mac.com Fri Jul 4 09:23:41 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Fri Jul 4 09:23:53 2008 Subject: [iTunes] more problems with iTunes In-Reply-To: <206131.73743.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <206131.73743.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5AFFD471-3F43-432B-8404-71C024240941@mac.com> Hi Becca: Your music/books should not have disappeared. Do a search on a title that should be there. Maybe you have another Music folder with all those files. If that is the case there maybe an iTunes Library.xml file there. Itunes can access music/books/ podcasts from multiple locations on your hard drive. For example I have my podcasts on a separate drive because I don't back them up, it takes too much space on my backup drive. Look around on your hard drive, I am sure everything is there. There is nothing a freeze in itunes or XP could do to erase those files. Ken On Jul 4, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Becca wrote: > sh*t. > > It looks like all my books (except Audible) are gone, and all my > music is gone. The whole file is empty - even the stuff I downloaded > from iTunes is gone. > > that'll teach me not to back up more frequently. > > -becca > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From mkj at hughes.net Fri Jul 4 13:57:52 2008 From: mkj at hughes.net (Mark Johnson) Date: Fri Jul 4 14:00:57 2008 Subject: [iTunes] My iPod won't sync! In-Reply-To: <84EC19A1-5470-47B7-B879-C8787E45438A@cox.net> Message-ID: Resetting Sync history has fixed syncing problems with my iPhone and iCal/addressbook. When a Sync fails I open iSync and go to the preferences and click the reset history button. On 6/30/08 12:49 AM, "Michael Prete" wrote: > On Jun 29, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Mark Johnson wrote: > >> Itunes uses the iSync preference. Try resetting sync history. > > What does this mean please? What will happen as a result of resetting > sync history? I have OS 10.5.3 and I've never used the application > iSync for any of my iPods or iPhones. The only uses I've ever come > > > > ------------ > Michael Prete > > More will be revealed. > > > > > > > From michaelprete at cox.net Sat Jul 5 18:10:14 2008 From: michaelprete at cox.net (Michael Prete) Date: Sat Jul 5 18:20:18 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Order of podcasts are reversed Message-ID: <90D647EF-35BA-45DD-8233-61FAADBB9B84@cox.net> The podcasts displayed in my iTunes window show them in descending chronological order. (I'm kinda behind on them) However, on both my classic 80 GB iPod and my iPhone, the podcasts are in reverse order, with the oldest at the bottom and the newest on the top of each playlist. The iPod (iPhone) will continue from one podcast (or any song) to the next one below automatically. But since the next lower podcast on the list is the oldest, I have to manually select and over ride each one. I want the podcasts on my iPod/iPhone to be in descending chronological order as they are on my computer, so that upon completion of one episode, it will automatically shift to the next newer episode automatically. Any suggestions on how to accomplish that? To perhaps state the obvious, it makes no difference whether I have ascending or descending chronological order on iTunes, it does not affect the sequence on my iPod/iPhone. ------------ Michael Prete 17" 2.0 GHz G5 iMac, 1 GB RAM, OS 10.5.4, iTunes 7.6.2, Quicktime 7.5 80 GB iPod Classic, Model MB 147LL, OS 1.1.2 8 GB iPhone, Model MA712LL, OS 1.1.4 More will be revealed. From kestevens at mac.com Sat Jul 5 19:08:23 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Sat Jul 5 19:09:01 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Order of podcasts are reversed In-Reply-To: <90D647EF-35BA-45DD-8233-61FAADBB9B84@cox.net> References: <90D647EF-35BA-45DD-8233-61FAADBB9B84@cox.net> Message-ID: I only know one way to do what you want. Set up a new playlist on your iPod/iPhone. Drag the podcasts you want to that playlist. In the View menu select "View Options" and check "Release Date". You can now sort the podcasts according to the date they were recorded. The iPod/iPhone will play them in that order. Ken On Jul 5, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Michael Prete wrote: > The podcasts displayed in my iTunes window show them in descending > chronological order. (I'm kinda behind on them) However, on both my > classic 80 GB iPod and my iPhone, the podcasts are in reverse order, > with the oldest at the bottom and the newest on the top of each > playlist. The iPod (iPhone) will continue from one podcast (or any > song) to the next one below automatically. But since the next lower > podcast on the list is the oldest, I have to manually select and > over ride each one. > > I want the podcasts on my iPod/iPhone to be in descending > chronological order as they are on my computer, so that upon > completion of one episode, it will automatically shift to the next > newer episode automatically. Any suggestions on how to accomplish > that? To perhaps state the obvious, it makes no difference whether I > have ascending or descending chronological order on iTunes, it does > not affect the sequence on my iPod/iPhone. > > > ------------ > Michael Prete > 17" 2.0 GHz G5 iMac, 1 GB RAM, OS 10.5.4, iTunes 7.6.2, Quicktime 7.5 > 80 GB iPod Classic, Model MB 147LL, OS 1.1.2 > 8 GB iPhone, Model MA712LL, OS 1.1.4 > > More will be revealed. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 07:21:51 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Sun Jul 6 07:22:05 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Upper limit to contents of iTunes? Message-ID: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is there an upper limit to how much can be put into any one instance of iTunes? I had a catastrophic failure of iTunes last week, and had to completely reload iTunes from the Apple site and do a full restore on my iPod, due to downloading a corrupted song file from iTunes. I now have to re-import all my music and books into iTunes (fortunately they all seem to still be on my computer) and figured I'd take this opportunity to clean things up a bit - get rid of books I'll probably not relisten to, and so on. But my dh has just got himself an iPod, and wants to import his entire (huge) music collection, and I'm not sure whether I should put it all into the same instance that the kids and I have our books and music, so I can share it, or whether I should load it all on his computer separately and just re-import the ones I specifically want onto my computer. -becca -------------------------------------------- "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula From kirkmc at mac.com Sun Jul 6 07:25:11 2008 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Sun Jul 6 07:25:27 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Upper limit to contents of iTunes? In-Reply-To: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Jul 6, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Becca wrote: > Is there an upper limit to how much can be put into any one instance > of iTunes? I know someone who has about 240,000 tracks in his library... Kirk Co-author of: Podcasting Pocket Guide http://www.mcelhearn.com/ppg.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From kestevens at mac.com Sun Jul 6 08:02:11 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Sun Jul 6 08:03:02 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Upper limit to contents of iTunes? In-Reply-To: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A9A83EB-594C-4D99-92BD-F7C50BB35EB1@mac.com> No upper limit that I know of 160 GB iPod Classic advertises 40,000 songs so it will handle at least that many. Ken On Jul 6, 2008, at 8:21 AM, Becca wrote: > Is there an upper limit to how much can be put into any one instance > of iTunes? > > I had a catastrophic failure of iTunes last week, and had to > completely reload iTunes from the Apple site and do a full restore > on my iPod, due to downloading a corrupted song file from iTunes. I > now have to re-import all my music and books into iTunes > (fortunately they all seem to still be on my computer) and figured > I'd take this opportunity to clean things up a bit - get rid of > books I'll probably not relisten to, and so on. > > But my dh has just got himself an iPod, and wants to import his > entire (huge) music collection, and I'm not sure whether I should > put it all into the same instance that the kids and I have our books > and music, so I can share it, or whether I should load it all on his > computer separately and just re-import the ones I specifically want > onto my computer. > > -becca > > -------------------------------------------- > "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the > corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 10:10:48 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Sun Jul 6 10:13:50 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem Message-ID: <102499.61764.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ever since I downloaded that stupid corrupted song, iTunes has been giving me problmes in just about every area. I'm waiting til I can get things straightened out before I start bringing all my books and music back into it. I re-subscribed to all my podcasts, and downloaded all the new ones. iTunes says I have 14 podcasts, but there are no blue dots next to any of the titles. Some of them have little exclamation marks next to them. Asking to reload the podcast doesn't do any good. When I try to sync my iPod with iTunes, I get an error message telling me that iTunes can't find the podcasts, then iTunes freezes up and I have to use CTRL-ALT-DEL (I'm on Windows XP) to close it down again. any suggestions what's going on? this is driving me crazy, and has been going on for a solid week! -Becca, who really wants to start loading new things onto her iPod. -------------------------------------------- "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula From dshera at mac.com Sun Jul 6 10:22:32 2008 From: dshera at mac.com (Dale Shera) Date: Sun Jul 6 10:26:20 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Upper limit to contents of iTunes? In-Reply-To: References: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > I know someone who has about 240,000 tracks in his library... Wow! I thought I had a ridiculous amount of tracks with 24,000. (It took me almost a year to get everything ripped.) That's ten times the amount of tracks that I have! I'll bet it took that person ages to rip all of that stuff... Dale From kestevens at mac.com Sun Jul 6 10:59:42 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Sun Jul 6 10:59:53 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem In-Reply-To: <102499.61764.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <102499.61764.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0649AB62-37DB-4C10-9ABC-8F6A34AAF8AF@mac.com> Hi Becca: The podcasts with exclamation points are probably podcasts that have been downloaded but iTunes doesn't know where to look. Here are two different solutions: 1. Under the advanced tab in your menu bar there is a "Consolidate Library" item. If you choose this option iTunes will search your hard drive and copy all iTunes compatible files to your Music Folder. Now you should go back and delete these items from other folders where they exist or you will have duplicates, one in the music folder and one where- ever iTunes found it. 2. If you don't have too many, simply click on the exclamation point and iTunes will ask you if you want to find the file. Click "yes" and navigate to the proper file. When you find it, select it and click "open" and it will be added to your library. Ken On Jul 6, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Becca wrote: > ever since I downloaded that stupid corrupted song, iTunes has been > giving me problmes in just about every area. I'm waiting til I can > get things straightened out before I start bringing all my books and > music back into it. > > I re-subscribed to all my podcasts, and downloaded all the new ones. > iTunes says I have 14 podcasts, but there are no blue dots next to > any of the titles. Some of them have little exclamation marks next > to them. Asking to reload the podcast doesn't do any good. > > When I try to sync my iPod with iTunes, I get an error message > telling me that iTunes can't find the podcasts, then iTunes freezes > up and I have to use CTRL-ALT-DEL (I'm on Windows XP) to close it > down again. > > any suggestions what's going on? this is driving me crazy, and has > been going on for a solid week! > > -Becca, who really wants to start loading new things onto her iPod. > > -------------------------------------------- > "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the > corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 11:22:08 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Sun Jul 6 11:22:16 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem In-Reply-To: <0649AB62-37DB-4C10-9ABC-8F6A34AAF8AF@mac.com> Message-ID: <266835.19840.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Ken Stevens wrote: > Hi Becca: > 1. Under the advanced tab in your menu bar there is a > "Consolidate > Library" item. > If you choose this option iTunes will search your hard > drive and copy > all iTunes compatible > files to your Music Folder. Now you should go back and > delete these > items from other > folders where they exist or you will have duplicates, one > in the music > folder and one where- > ever iTunes found it. I spent such a long time organizing my music and audiobooks on my hard drive - will this copy every thing to someplace else? we have my hd partitioned, with one of them being the data drive; on that drive/partition, I have a folder titled Books and Music - books are in one sub-folder and music in another. Will this consolidation move everything over to the applications drive/partition where iTunes resides? what if I don't want them there? > > 2. If you don't have too many, simply click on the > exclamation point > and iTunes will ask you > if you want to find the file. Click "yes" and > navigate to the proper > file. When you find it, select > it and click "open" and it will be added to your > library. how do I know where to find the podcasts? -becca, feeling really stupid and overwhelmed at the chaos this problem has caused From linthicum at mac.com Sun Jul 6 11:43:10 2008 From: linthicum at mac.com (John Linthicum) Date: Sun Jul 6 11:43:29 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Upper limit to contents of iTunes? In-Reply-To: References: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45D8E659-5BFA-428F-B03E-2F4035D34551@mac.com> On Jul 6, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Dale Shera wrote: > On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Kirk McElhearn wrote: > >> I know someone who has about 240,000 tracks in his library... > > Wow! I thought I had a ridiculous amount of tracks with 24,000. (It > took me almost a year to get everything ripped.) That's ten times > the amount of tracks that I have! I'll bet it took that person ages > to rip all of that stuff... Quite an assumption that they ripped it all. Perhaps it was all purchased legally through the various legal outlets for digital music. I've been ripping my entire CD collection for years, and I'm only a fraction of the way through it. I used to be a DJ, so I've got quite a library. I've got 62k songs and iTunes doesn't even flinch at it. -- Regards, John From kirkmc at mac.com Sun Jul 6 11:49:47 2008 From: kirkmc at mac.com (Kirk McElhearn) Date: Sun Jul 6 11:49:58 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Upper limit to contents of iTunes? In-Reply-To: <45D8E659-5BFA-428F-B03E-2F4035D34551@mac.com> References: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45D8E659-5BFA-428F-B03E-2F4035D34551@mac.com> Message-ID: On Jul 6, 2008, at 8:43 PM, John Linthicum wrote: >>> I know someone who has about 240,000 tracks in his library... >> >> Wow! I thought I had a ridiculous amount of tracks with 24,000. (It >> took me almost a year to get everything ripped.) That's ten times >> the amount of tracks that I have! I'll bet it took that person ages >> to rip all of that stuff... > > Quite an assumption that they ripped it all. Perhaps it was all > purchased legally through the various legal outlets for digital > music. I've been ripping my entire CD collection for years, and I'm > only a fraction of the way through it. I used to be a DJ, so I've > got quite a library. I've got 62k songs and iTunes doesn't even > flinch at it. Actually, the person in question not only ripped most of his music, but digitized hundreds of LPs as well. I've got 42K songs, with only a couple thousand purchased (and that many because of big sets like the complete Dylan and U2). Yes, ripping takes a long, long time... Kirk Author of: Take Control of Users & Accounts in Leopard http://www.mcelhearn.com/tco.html - - - - - - Read my blog: Kirkville -- http://www.mcelhearn.com Musings, Opinion and Miscellanea, on Macs, iPods and more From kestevens at mac.com Sun Jul 6 12:14:11 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Sun Jul 6 12:14:34 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem In-Reply-To: <266835.19840.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <266835.19840.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <544DF8C1-0703-4D16-8EA8-DE48FEB1A04C@mac.com> On Jul 6, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Becca wrote: > > > I spent such a long time organizing my music and audiobooks on my > hard drive - will this copy every thing to someplace else? we have > my hd partitioned, with one of them being the data drive; on that > drive/partition, I have a folder titled Books and Music - books are > in one sub-folder and music in another. Will this consolidation move > everything over to the applications drive/partition where iTunes > resides? what if I don't want them there? > I don't know how this would work with a partitioned drive. Your podcasts may well still be on the other partition. You may have to use method #2. > how do I know where to find the podcasts? Do a search in XP on one of the names or do a search on all MP3 files. This should list all your music, books and podcasts. Hopefully when you find one podcast, you will find them all. If you have checked "Copy Files to iTunes Music Folder when adding to Library" Preferences/Advanced, this method may automatically bring the podcasts to your music folder as you locate them. If you want to leave the podcasts where they are, uncheck "Copy files to...." Good luck Ken From michaelprete at cox.net Sun Jul 6 13:25:25 2008 From: michaelprete at cox.net (Michael Prete) Date: Sun Jul 6 13:27:16 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem In-Reply-To: <266835.19840.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <266835.19840.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Jul 6, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Becca wrote: > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Ken Stevens wrote: > > >> Hi Becca: > >> 1. Under the advanced tab in your menu bar there is a >> "Consolidate Library" item. If you choose this option iTunes will >> search your hard >> drive and copy all iTunes compatiblefiles to your Music Folder. >> Now you should go back and >> delete these items from other folders where they exist or you will >> have duplicates, one >> in the music folder and one where-ever iTunes found it. > > I spent such a long time organizing my music and audiobooks on my > hard drive - will this copy every thing to someplace else? we have > my hd partitioned, with one of them being the data drive; on that > drive/partition, I have a folder titled Books and Music - books are > in one sub-folder and music in another. Will this consolidation move > everything over to the applications drive/partition where iTunes > resides? Perhaps your folder system is the source of your troubles. Your computer doesn't think like you do. Imposing a system on iTunes that makes sense to you hasn't helped, it may be the problem. > what if I don't want them there? I suppose it depends upon what is important to you, your personal filing system or the proper functioning of iTunes. >> 2. If you don't have too many, simply click on the exclamation point >> and iTunes will ask you if you want to find the file. Click "yes" >> and >> navigate to the proper file. When you find it, select >> it and click "open" and it will be added to your library. > > how do I know where to find the podcasts? You can do a search for them. XP has a search function. > becca, feeling really stupid and overwhelmed at the chaos this > problem has caused You really should have a good backup. If you do, you should be able to experiment with these suggestions, and be able to return to your previous setup if you don't like the results. I know I can do that with my Mac. There is software to clone my entire hard drive, so that I have a total, complete and accurate copy (definition of a clone, I suppose) of my hard drive. Then, when I install new software or make some big changes, I am confident that if it all turns to crap, I can simply revert to my backup and erase the mistake and begin again. The iTunes preferences/advanced allow you to specify and/or change the location of your iTunes Library folder. Everything that iTunes needs to access should be in that folder for optimum functioning. I allow iTunes to arrange the files as it wishes, and I don't encounter the problems you seem to be having. This whole saga reminds me of a Chinese proverb: If you continue to do what you've always done, You will continue to get what you've always gotten. I would also suggest you consider Macintosh the next time you shop for a computer. I've used both, and I wouldn't own a PC anymore. My reasons have to do with Window's non-intuitive filing system and the difficulty in accomplishing what should be simple tasks. Good luck with this, be sure to share how you finally overcome the problem. ------------ Michael Prete More will be revealed. From becca_price at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 15:30:36 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Sun Jul 6 15:30:58 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <352038.28003.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Perhaps your folder system is the source of your troubles. iTunes set up the folder system in the first place: author , subfolders for each book or album by that author, specific files. it worked just fine for several years and many iPods, until last week, when iTunes blew up on me when I downloaded a corrupted song file from iTunes itself. Every thing after that has been trying to get back to where I was the week before that. this is being very frustrating. -becca From dshera at mac.com Sun Jul 6 15:35:26 2008 From: dshera at mac.com (Dale Shera) Date: Sun Jul 6 15:37:18 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Upper limit to contents of iTunes? In-Reply-To: <45D8E659-5BFA-428F-B03E-2F4035D34551@mac.com> References: <20732.40412.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45D8E659-5BFA-428F-B03E-2F4035D34551@mac.com> Message-ID: <33445CD3-90A4-4347-85AE-20D7EC06AD1F@mac.com> On Jul 6, 2008, at 1:43 PM, John Linthicum wrote: > On Jul 6, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Dale Shera wrote: > >> On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Kirk McElhearn wrote: >> >>> I know someone who has about 240,000 tracks in his library... >> >> Wow! I thought I had a ridiculous amount of tracks with 24,000. (It >> took me almost a year to get everything ripped.) That's ten times >> the amount of tracks that I have! I'll bet it took that person ages >> to rip all of that stuff... > > Quite an assumption that they ripped it all. On the contrary, it's quite an assumption that they wouldn't rip the vast majority of it. > Perhaps it was all purchased legally through the various legal > outlets for digital music. HA! You have to be kidding! Nobody in his/her right mind would even consider acquiring almost a quarter of a million tracks by downloading it all for "convenience" sake. That person would have to have a LOT more money than sense to even begin to acquire that much stuff through downloads, legal or not. It boggles my mind to even think about how much time/bandwidth/money would be spent on putting a collection that large together while downloading it all from the internet. Do a little math on that. If a person downloaded 100 songs every single day, it would take them over six and half years to get to 240,000. Assuming that an album has 15 tracks on it, that's 16,000 albums worth of material to download. 16,000 albums is, roughly, $160,000.00 of iTunes downloads. If you ask me, there isn't that much worthy material out there. But, I digress... > I've been ripping my entire CD collection for years, and I'm only a > fraction of the way through it. I used to be a DJ, so I've got quite > a library. I've got 62k songs Then, you see my point. There's no way you'd even try to amass a collection that size by downloading it all, unless your billfold is a mile thick and your internet pipe is huge! (If that's the case, can I be your new best friend?) ;-) I'll bet a bunch of your stuff is promos, cut-outs, and bargain bin stuff. (We do all have that kind of stuff, don't we?) Imagine paying full nickel to download all the rubbish that you have accumulated over the years! > and iTunes doesn't even flinch at it. I'm curious, how many gigs of drive space does your collection take up now? My collection is around 200 GB, excluding video content. I'm having trouble with the mental image of having to have 2 TB of storage just for my music library, which is what it would take if my collection was 10 times larger... To have to back that up twice (once here at home and once offsite) would be insane. I think I'd have to find another hobby. Dale From kestevens at mac.com Sun Jul 6 16:48:46 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Sun Jul 6 16:48:57 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem In-Reply-To: References: <266835.19840.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3DB2B0C6-8ABB-4AD5-A421-340717F18BAA@mac.com> Becca's problem is not with her file system. Occasionally computer files do get corrupted, maybe iTunes, maybe the internet, maybe the computer itself. This is the reason iTunes provides a iTunes Library.xml file. I have had the experience of corrupting a library file and its no fun to rebuild it. I did the same thing Becca did and over wrote the .xml file. When you are looking at a blank library immediately import the .xml file. Failing that, the only solution for file corruption or a failed hard drive it's back up, back up, back up. Ken Stevens On Jul 6, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Michael Prete wrote: > > Perhaps your folder system is the source of your troubles. Your > computer doesn't think like you do. Imposing a system on iTunes that > makes sense to you hasn't helped, it may be the problem. > >> If you continue to do what you've always done, > You will continue to get what you've always gotten. From michaelprete at cox.net Sun Jul 6 18:51:53 2008 From: michaelprete at cox.net (Michael Prete) Date: Sun Jul 6 18:52:01 2008 Subject: [iTunes] iTunes: podcasts problem In-Reply-To: <352038.28003.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <352038.28003.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Jul 6, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Becca wrote: You've deleted my part in this fiasco. Michael wrote: >> Perhaps your folder system is the source of your troubles. > > iTunes set up the folder system in the first place: author artist name>, subfolders for each book or album by that author, > specific files. No, not that. In your previous post you said (and I copy and paste) "I spent such a long time organizing my music and audiobooks on my hard drive - will this copy every thing to someplace else? we have my hd partitioned, with one of them being the data drive; on that drive/ partition, I have a folder titled Books and Music - books are in one sub-folder and music in another." I'm suggesting that your "organizing my music and audiobooks" into a folder titled "Books and Music" and locating that on a partitioned HD might have confused iTunes, especially when you are trying to recover from a corrupted file. > it worked just fine for several years and many iPods, until last > week, when iTunes blew up on me when I downloaded a corrupted song > file from iTunes itself. Yes, but that proves nothing. Everything that breaks had previously worked just fine for a period of time before it broke. The point is that you now have a problem, and you will have to experiment some to find a solution. > Every thing after that has been trying to get back to where I was > the week before that. And because you are having such unusual problems simply trying to return to where you were before, I am looking for possible causes and solutions. Specifically, someone else suggested that you check some boxes in preferences that would consolidate your library files. You stated you didn't want to because you had worked so hard organizing... I'm suggesting that with proper backups, you could experiment and try these suggestions, confident in the knowledge you could use your backup to return to your (current) starting point if the suggestions don't work out. Also, I would think that if iTunes moves things around in the consolidation procedure and it works properly, you could give up your organization to the one iTunes creates. Just a thought. You *are* asking for suggestions, after all. > this is being very frustrating. I is being sympathetic with you. ------------ Michael Prete More will be revealed. From wilsonng_gum at yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 01:16:04 2008 From: wilsonng_gum at yahoo.com (Wilson Ng) Date: Tue Jul 8 20:47:06 2008 Subject: [iTunes] Re: Upper limits of content of iTunes? In-Reply-To: <20080706182226.ECD5A2EA3C3E@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: > Is there an upper limit to how much can be put into any one instance of > iTunes? Part of the upper limit of how much iTunes can handle also depends on your computers' processing power. The larger your library, the longer it takes to load the iTunes library when you first start up iTunes. I have iTunes on my 1.5 Ghz G4 Mac Mini. I have approximately 67,000 audio files (I was also a former DJ in a previous life). It's a mix of my ripped CDS over the last 5 years and various podcasts and audiobooks. On my old 867 Mhz PowerBook, it would take up to 30 minutes just to get iTunes to respond. Now it is snapped on my Mac Mini. Having a large number of smart playlists also contributes to iTunes' demand on your computer. By reducing the number of smart playlists will help ease that demand. :-D Wilson - Guam, U.S.A. - - - P L E A S E C U T A L O N G D O T T E D L I N E - - - You can bend my ear We can talk all day Just make sure I'm around When you've finally got something to say. -- TOAD THE WET SPROCKET From becca_price at yahoo.com Fri Jul 11 08:28:47 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Fri Jul 11 08:29:19 2008 Subject: [iTunes] rebuilding iTunes library Message-ID: <527604.74706.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After my Big Crash of a few weeks ago, I've decided not to bring all my books and music back into iTunes unless/until I decide I need it for some reason. For example, I have all my Great Big Sea music on my iPod already, so there's no need to bring it back into iTunes; Emerald Rose isn't on my iPod, and I want it there, so I'll bring all those into iTunes so I can load it. The missing books and music exist on my computer, and I've figured out the very odd way iTunes backed up everything before The Crash (audible books are in folders by author; my other books are in a big folder called Audio Books - music is scattered, based on how lazy I was when I loaded it.). I did re-bring in all my Audible books and put them in play lists and folders. When I'm feeling obsessive, I might bring in some of my series books: I have some Terry Pratchett in audible files and some as regular mp3s, for example. My question is this: what file should I periodically back up (the iTunesLibrary.xml file?) just in case something like this happens again, so I don't have to rebuild my library yet again? -becca -------------------------------------------- "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula From kestevens at mac.com Fri Jul 11 10:39:21 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Fri Jul 11 10:39:43 2008 Subject: [iTunes] rebuilding iTunes library In-Reply-To: <527604.74706.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <527604.74706.qm@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C6A5CD3-E493-4BB6-AFDD-09CE3C75987A@mac.com> Hi Becca: Back up both your iTunes library and iTunes library.xml. This is a bit redundant but it won't hurt to have both backed up. I recommend backing them up to a different disk if possible. When I crashed a hard disk I lost all my music, photographs, my financial and tax records, my medical records, any programs I had downloaded off the net. Reconstructing all that was a mess and some was lost forever, so I sympathize. I recommend backing up everything on your hard disk daily. Hard drives are mechanical devices so they will wear out and fail without warning. Is there anything on your computer it would hurt to loose? Ken On Jul 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Becca wrote: > After my Big Crash of a few weeks ago, I've decided not to bring all > my books and music back into iTunes unless/until I decide I need it > for some reason. For example, I have all my Great Big Sea music on > my iPod already, so there's no need to bring it back into iTunes; > Emerald Rose isn't on my iPod, and I want it there, so I'll bring > all those into iTunes so I can load it. The missing books and music > exist on my computer, and I've figured out the very odd way iTunes > backed up everything before The Crash (audible books are in folders > by author; my other books are in a big folder called Audio Books - > music is scattered, based on how lazy I was when I loaded it.). > > I did re-bring in all my Audible books and put them in play lists > and folders. When I'm feeling obsessive, I might bring in some of my > series books: I have some Terry Pratchett in audible files and some > as regular mp3s, for example. > > My question is this: what file should I periodically back up (the > iTunesLibrary.xml file?) just in case something like this happens > again, so I don't have to rebuild my library yet again? > > -becca > > -------------------------------------------- > "But its at the edge where science is alive - the well-known is the > corpse of science." - "frog" from a comment on the blog Pharyngula > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Fri Jul 11 10:46:28 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Fri Jul 11 10:47:20 2008 Subject: [iTunes] rebuilding iTunes library In-Reply-To: <4C6A5CD3-E493-4BB6-AFDD-09CE3C75987A@mac.com> Message-ID: <560597.24684.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Hi Becca: Back up both your iTunes library and iTunes > library.xml. how do I back up the library? I know I can find the iTunesLibrary.xml file, and can just back that up onto a flash drive. > so they will wear out and fail without warning. Is there > anything on > your computer it would hurt to loose? on my computer, there are some things it would be a pain to lose, but actually not that much - I mostly use it for internet and iTunes these days. I've got a bunch of old photos on it, but they're also on a cd I have around here somewhere. Most of our important things are on my dh's computer. I'm sure he backs them up regularly; I tend to forget to think about things like that until a mess like what happened in the last few weeks got to me. -becca From kestevens at mac.com Fri Jul 11 11:02:47 2008 From: kestevens at mac.com (Ken Stevens) Date: Fri Jul 11 11:03:39 2008 Subject: [iTunes] rebuilding iTunes library In-Reply-To: <560597.24684.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <560597.24684.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <478EE43B-B1A4-41AF-9D18-2EB4E428D435@mac.com> The same way you back up the .xml file. The library is in the same folder as the .xml file. I assume you can just drag them to the flash drive. Do you have your music, books, podcasts somewhere else? Having a complete backup has an advantage even if you have copies in other places. If I had a hard drive fail I could have my computer restored in an hour or two tops. I'll bet you have spent more time than than just restoring the library and playlists. On Jul 11, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Becca wrote: > >> Hi Becca: Back up both your iTunes library and iTunes >> library.xml. > > > how do I back up the library? I know I can find the > iTunesLibrary.xml file, and can just back that up onto a flash drive. > > >> so they will wear out and fail without warning. Is there >> anything on >> your computer it would hurt to loose? > > on my computer, there are some things it would be a pain to lose, > but actually not that much - I mostly use it for internet and iTunes > these days. I've got a bunch of old photos on it, but they're also > on a cd I have around here somewhere. > > Most of our important things are on my dh's computer. I'm sure he > backs them up regularly; I tend to forget to think about things like > that until a mess like what happened in the last few weeks got to me. > > -becca > > > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes From becca_price at yahoo.com Fri Jul 11 12:41:16 2008 From: becca_price at yahoo.com (Becca) Date: Fri Jul 11 12:41:39 2008 Subject: [iTunes] rebuilding iTunes library In-Reply-To: <478EE43B-B1A4-41AF-9D18-2EB4E428D435@mac.com> Message-ID: <294710.72008.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is the library the .itl file? I'm trying to talk my dh into getting me an external drive for my backups - so far other expenses are taking priority. They're being backed up on a separate virtual drive, but it's the same physical hard disc.c -becca --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Ken Stevens wrote: > From: Ken Stevens > Subject: Re: [iTunes] rebuilding iTunes library > To: becca@di.org, "A place to discuss iTunes." > Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 2:02 PM > The same way you back up the .xml file. The library is in > the same > folder > as the .xml file. I assume you can just drag them to the > flash drive. > > Do you have your music, books, podcasts somewhere else? > > Having a complete backup has an advantage even if you have > copies > in other places. If I had a hard drive fail I could have > my computer > restored > in an hour or two tops. I'll bet you have spent more > time than than > just > restoring the library and playlists. > > > On Jul 11, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Becca wrote: > > > > >> Hi Becca: Back up both your iTunes library and > iTunes > >> library.xml. > > > > > > how do I back up the library? I know I can find the > > iTunesLibrary.xml file, and can just back that up onto > a flash drive. > > > > > >> so they will wear out and fail without warning. > Is there > >> anything on > >> your computer it would hurt to loose? > > > > on my computer, there are some things it would be a > pain to lose, > > but actually not that much - I mostly use it for > internet and iTunes > > these days. I've got a bunch of old photos on it, > but they're also > > on a cd I have around here somewhere. > > > > Most of our important things are on my dh's > computer. I'm sure he > > backs them up regularly; I tend to forget to think > about things like > > that until a mess like what happened in the last few > weeks got to me. > > > > -becca > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > iTunes mailing list > > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes > > _______________________________________________ > iTunes mailing list > iTunes@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/itunes