From janjay at mac.com Fri Feb 1 10:14:46 2008 From: janjay at mac.com (Joan Keenan) Date: Fri Feb 1 10:15:29 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Sony DCR-SR80 - mic input Message-ID: I'm looking at the new hard drive Sony cameras, but being in the Virgin Islands, can only look online :-) I'm looking for one that has a mic input as we are doing interviews with a wireless lavalier mic. Some places it seems to say this model has a mic input but then it sounds like that is only through the hot shoe???? Anyone know of a model that has the actual input for a mic cable????? Thanks for any help. Joan From lcotler at willitsonline.com Fri Feb 1 17:24:15 2008 From: lcotler at willitsonline.com (Lanny Cotler) Date: Fri Feb 1 17:25:15 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Audio scrubbing doesn't work in FCP In-Reply-To: References: <78E354A9-73D9-4607-8C20-1587CF273223@bigpond.com> Message-ID: I made sure Audio Scrubbing [Shift-S] was on. But still it won't work. I restarted, nope. Anyone? From videovideo at mac.com Fri Feb 1 19:14:47 2008 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Fri Feb 1 19:15:04 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Audio scrubbing doesn't work in FCP In-Reply-To: References: <78E354A9-73D9-4607-8C20-1587CF273223@bigpond.com> Message-ID: check your audio output, and see if it's set for whatever you are using to monitor your sound - i.e., you expect it to come out of your computer's internal speakers, so make sure it's set to internal. regards, sb On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Lanny Cotler wrote: > I made sure Audio Scrubbing [Shift-S] was on. > But still it won't work. > I restarted, nope. > > Anyone? From lcotler at willitsonline.com Sat Feb 2 00:08:39 2008 From: lcotler at willitsonline.com (Lanny Cotler) Date: Sat Feb 2 00:08:51 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Audio scrubbing doesn't work in FCP In-Reply-To: References: <78E354A9-73D9-4607-8C20-1587CF273223@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <1402480F-47E4-437B-862D-3146CB46847D@willitsonline.com> I checked. Nope. I restarted. I reinstalled FCP. Nope. Finally, I reinstalled all of FCStudioPro Suite. That worked. I'm back in the saddle. What a headache. Thanks all On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:14 PM, sb wrote: > check your audio output, and see if it's set for whatever you are > using to monitor your sound - i.e., you expect it to come out of > your computer's internal speakers, so make sure it's set to internal. > > regards, > > sb > On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Lanny Cotler wrote: > >> I made sure Audio Scrubbing [Shift-S] was on. >> But still it won't work. >> I restarted, nope. >> >> Anyone? > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > From stever at mindspring.com Sat Feb 2 05:33:33 2008 From: stever at mindspring.com (Steve Robertson) Date: Sat Feb 2 05:34:01 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express 4 Message-ID: Hi Guys, Apple solved a problem for me. I've been using FCE since version 1.0. I bought an upgrade to FCE HD, but never really got to use it. I bought a MacBook and installed 2 gigs of ram so I could use it as a portable editing platform (couldn't afford a MacBook Pro!) then discovered that FCE HD wouldn't work, because it required a high powered video card. Yesterday, I went back to the Apple site to see exactly which video cards would work. I was greeted with a new version - FCE 4. The specs on this version say that it will work with the MacBook's Intel video chip! So I have an update on the way. I haven't seen any publicity for FCE 4. Are any of you using it? Steve R. From npoese at earthlink.net Sat Feb 2 05:37:42 2008 From: npoese at earthlink.net (Neil Poese) Date: Sat Feb 2 05:38:00 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Audio scrubbing doesn't work in FCP In-Reply-To: <1402480F-47E4-437B-862D-3146CB46847D@willitsonline.com> References: <78E354A9-73D9-4607-8C20-1587CF273223@bigpond.com> <1402480F-47E4-437B-862D-3146CB46847D@willitsonline.com> Message-ID: <47A47226.9010906@earthlink.net> Lanny, Did you also try trashing the prefs before reinstalling FCP? I've found audio problems are particularly susceptible to corrupted prefs. Neil Poese Lanny Cotler wrote: > I checked. Nope. > > I restarted. I reinstalled FCP. Nope. > > Finally, I reinstalled all of FCStudioPro Suite. That worked. I'm > back in the saddle. > > What a headache. > > Thanks all > > > > On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:14 PM, sb wrote: > >> check your audio output, and see if it's set for whatever you are >> using to monitor your sound - i.e., you expect it to come out of >> your computer's internal speakers, so make sure it's set to internal. >> >> regards, >> >> sb >> On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Lanny Cotler wrote: >> >>> I made sure Audio Scrubbing [Shift-S] was on. >>> But still it won't work. >>> I restarted, nope. >>> >>> Anyone? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > From vtstream at yahoo.com Sat Feb 2 11:33:58 2008 From: vtstream at yahoo.com (Vtstream) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:34:48 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express 4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <804114.45861.qm@web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wish I had known this. I recently bought the HD version and the HD capability was not really needed since no one in the studio is using HD nor do they plan to anytime soon. Could this be simply hype for HD trying to get everyone to re-tool for more money? No...say it isn't so! :) Steve Robertson wrote: Hi Guys, Apple solved a problem for me. I've been using FCE since version 1.0. I bought an upgrade to FCE HD, but never really got to use it. I bought a MacBook and installed 2 gigs of ram so I could use it as a portable editing platform (couldn't afford a MacBook Pro!) then discovered that FCE HD wouldn't work, because it required a high powered video card. Yesterday, I went back to the Apple site to see exactly which video cards would work. I was greeted with a new version - FCE 4. The specs on this version say that it will work with the MacBook's Intel video chip! So I have an update on the way. I haven't seen any publicity for FCE 4. Are any of you using it? Steve R. _______________________________________________ MacDV mailing list MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv I support the efforts of the Franklin County Peace Alliance http://www.geocities.com/franklincountypeace -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080202/34006820/attachment.html From lcotler at willitsonline.com Sat Feb 2 10:17:33 2008 From: lcotler at willitsonline.com (Lanny Cotler) Date: Sat Feb 2 11:37:18 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Audio scrubbing doesn't work in FCP In-Reply-To: <47A47226.9010906@earthlink.net> References: <78E354A9-73D9-4607-8C20-1587CF273223@bigpond.com> <1402480F-47E4-437B-862D-3146CB46847D@willitsonline.com> <47A47226.9010906@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yes, Neil, I did. Didn't help. History: After installing the latest version of the full Suite, it was working fine, on both my laptop and desktop. Then two days ago, the desktop stopped scrubbing; that is, I could move the playhead, but I couldn't hear the scrubbed audio, neither in the Viewer or the Timeline. So I trashed the prefs. Still no audio. Then I reinstalled just FCP. Nope. Then I reinstalled the whole kit and kaboodle. That fixed it. Whew. Thanks to all who offered suggestions. Lanny On Feb 2, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Neil Poese wrote: > Lanny, > > Did you also try trashing the prefs before reinstalling FCP? I've > found audio problems are particularly susceptible to corrupted prefs. > > Neil Poese > > > Lanny Cotler wrote: > >> I checked. Nope. >> >> I restarted. I reinstalled FCP. Nope. >> >> Finally, I reinstalled all of FCStudioPro Suite. That worked. I'm >> back in the saddle. >> >> What a headache. >> >> Thanks all >> >> >> >> On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:14 PM, sb wrote: >> >>> check your audio output, and see if it's set for whatever you are >>> using to monitor your sound - i.e., you expect it to come out of >>> your computer's internal speakers, so make sure it's set to >>> internal. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> sb >>> On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Lanny Cotler wrote: >>> >>>> I made sure Audio Scrubbing [Shift-S] was on. >>>> But still it won't work. >>>> I restarted, nope. >>>> >>>> Anyone? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacDV mailing list >>> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > From ross at dmrmail.com Mon Feb 4 12:25:00 2008 From: ross at dmrmail.com (Dominion Market Research) Date: Mon Feb 4 12:26:17 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Audio scrubbing doesn't work in FCP In-Reply-To: References: <78E354A9-73D9-4607-8C20-1587CF273223@bigpond.com> <1402480F-47E4-437B-862D-3146CB46847D@willitsonline.com> <47A47226.9010906@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I've had a couple of instances where something has changed the settings in the Audio MIDI Setup window. Once I reset them to 44100 Hz on both the input and output, normal audio was restored. I've never tried to figure out which application changes them for me. When this happens, I generally find the output has been reset to 96000 Hz. Ross Hunter Orange, VA >Yes, Neil, I did. Didn't help. > >History: >After installing the latest version of the full Suite, it was >working fine, on both my laptop and desktop. Then two days ago, the >desktop stopped scrubbing; that is, I could move the playhead, but I >couldn't hear the scrubbed audio, neither in the Viewer or the >Timeline. > >So I trashed the prefs. Still no audio. > >Then I reinstalled just FCP. Nope. > >Then I reinstalled the whole kit and kaboodle. That fixed it. > >Whew. > >Thanks to all who offered suggestions. > >Lanny > > >On Feb 2, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Neil Poese wrote: > >>Lanny, >> >>Did you also try trashing the prefs before reinstalling FCP? I've >>found audio problems are particularly susceptible to corrupted >>prefs. >> >>Neil Poese >> >> >>Lanny Cotler wrote: >> >>>I checked. Nope. >>> >>>I restarted. I reinstalled FCP. Nope. >>> >>>Finally, I reinstalled all of FCStudioPro Suite. That worked. I'm >>>back in the saddle. >>> >>>What a headache. >>> >>>Thanks all >>> >>> >>> >>>On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:14 PM, sb wrote: >>> >>>>check your audio output, and see if it's set for whatever you are >>>>using to monitor your sound - i.e., you expect it to come out of >>>>your computer's internal speakers, so make sure it's set to internal. >>>> >>>>regards, >>>> >>>>sb >>>>On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Lanny Cotler wrote: >>>> >>>>>I made sure Audio Scrubbing [Shift-S] was on. >>>>>But still it won't work. >>>>>I restarted, nope. >>>>> >>>>>Anyone? >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>MacDV mailing list >>>>MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>>>http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>MacDV mailing list >>>MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>>http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>MacDV mailing list >>MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> > >_______________________________________________ >MacDV mailing list >MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv -- Dominion Market Research-mailing services for Central Virginia 309 Madison Road PO Box 791 Orange VA 22960-0464 USA 1-540-672-2327 1-800-328-2588 fax: 1-540-672-0296 http://www.dmrmail.com _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From josh at joshrenaud.com Sat Feb 9 15:55:00 2008 From: josh at joshrenaud.com (josh@joshrenaud.com) Date: Sat Feb 9 15:55:13 2008 Subject: [MacDV] iMovie -> HandyCam export problem Message-ID: <20080209155500.1e9ek68pycccssow@www.joshrenaud.com> Several months ago, I imported a bunch of old VHS video into iMovie on my PowerMac G4. I played the tapes off a recent Sony VCR through my Dazzle Hollywood firewire coverter. I had no problems bringing the video into iMovie. I then edited the videos and included them on several DVDs (through iDVD). Now, I'm finally getting around to archiving my digital video onto Hi-8 tapes (I use a Sony TRV-280 camcorder, which uses these tapes. We make master tapes of all our finished, edited video). But I am having trouble with 2 of the VHS conversions. When I try to export them from iMovie to the camcorder, the camcorder pops up a message in the viewfinder saying it is copyrighted material and it can't be recorded. The camcorder then stops itself and won't record the stream. The Mac doesn't seem to realize anything is wrong and keeps playing the video, so I have to stop it manually. One of the two conversions is a collage of photos set to music from 1994. It was done by a professional company for my jr. high class, and it's possible it may have copy protection. The other conversion is of a video that was shot a few years ago in Bolivia by my brother-in-law. I am not sure if it would have copy protection or not. Again, it's possible, but I'm thinking it unlikely. These are the only two to have this problem. I have exported other conversions very easily to the Sony HandyCam Anyone encounter this before? --Josh From roduncan at telus.net Sat Feb 9 19:23:16 2008 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Sat Feb 9 19:23:28 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Using FCE 4 on my MacBook Pro with no problems. Running a 2.2 GHz model and have it maxed out with 4 GB of ram so FCE 4 smokes along. The earlier FCE versions require AGP graphic card so won't run on the MacBook. FCE 4 handles all popular video formats DV, HDV, and the new AVCH providing you are running it on an Intel machine. Rod >Hi Guys, > >Apple solved a problem for me. I've been using FCE since version >1.0. I bought an upgrade to FCE HD, but never really got to use it. >I bought a MacBook and installed 2 gigs of ram so I could use it as >a portable editing platform (couldn't afford a MacBook Pro!) then >discovered that FCE HD wouldn't work, because it required a high >powered video card. > >Yesterday, I went back to the Apple site to see exactly which video >cards would work. I was greeted with a new version - FCE 4. The >specs on this version say that it will work with the MacBook's Intel >video chip! So I have an update on the way. > >I haven't seen any publicity for FCE 4. Are any of you using it? > >Steve R. >_______________________________________________ >MacDV mailing list >MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From drdon at mwt.net Sun Feb 10 09:16:36 2008 From: drdon at mwt.net (Donald Tully) Date: Sun Feb 10 09:16:47 2008 Subject: [MacDV] iMovie -> HandyCam export problem In-Reply-To: <20080209155500.1e9ek68pycccssow@www.joshrenaud.com> References: <20080209155500.1e9ek68pycccssow@www.joshrenaud.com> Message-ID: <84B2A1FA-885F-4575-817D-65D2BEF6860F@mwt.net> Josh - I have no answer to your problem, but, for my own edification, I'm wondering why you archive to Hi-8 tapes rather than archive quality DVD's. Capacity? Don/ On Feb 9, 2008, at 5:55 PM, josh@joshrenaud.com wrote: > Several months ago, I imported a bunch of old VHS video into iMovie > on my PowerMac G4. I played the tapes off a recent Sony VCR through > my Dazzle Hollywood firewire coverter. I had no problems bringing > the video into iMovie. > > I then edited the videos and included them on several DVDs (through > iDVD). > > Now, I'm finally getting around to archiving my digital video onto > Hi-8 tapes (I use a Sony TRV-280 camcorder, which uses these tapes. > We make master tapes of all our finished, edited video). > > But I am having trouble with 2 of the VHS conversions. When I try to > export them from iMovie to the camcorder, the camcorder pops up a > message in the viewfinder saying it is copyrighted material and it > can't be recorded. The camcorder then stops itself and won't record > the stream. The Mac doesn't seem to realize anything is wrong and > keeps playing the video, so I have to stop it manually. > > One of the two conversions is a collage of photos set to music from > 1994. It was done by a professional company for my jr. high class, > and it's possible it may have copy protection. > > The other conversion is of a video that was shot a few years ago in > Bolivia by my brother-in-law. I am not sure if it would have copy > protection or not. Again, it's possible, but I'm thinking it unlikely. > > These are the only two to have this problem. I have exported other > conversions very easily to the Sony HandyCam > > Anyone encounter this before? > > --Josh > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > From gerhardk at mac.com Sun Feb 10 09:29:15 2008 From: gerhardk at mac.com (Gerhard Kuhn) Date: Sun Feb 10 09:42:16 2008 Subject: [MacDV] iMovie -> HandyCam export problem In-Reply-To: <84B2A1FA-885F-4575-817D-65D2BEF6860F@mwt.net> References: <20080209155500.1e9ek68pycccssow@www.joshrenaud.com> <84B2A1FA-885F-4575-817D-65D2BEF6860F@mwt.net> Message-ID: <70846B75-1D64-45C7-B5B7-025D0E1D1E96@mac.com> I am thinking the same, to revert the video to analog and then if you ever need to revive these archives may bring future problems as you have taken the archives technically further back in time than necessary. I would suggest you back them up to mini DV or digital 8, either tape format will not compress the iMovie data, if possible I would choose the mini DV plus the same file on a hard drive. With higher capacity DVD disks just around the corner that would be a good choice for future proofing the raw full quality DV files as well . Gerhard On Feb 10, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Donald Tully wrote: > Josh - I have no answer to your problem, but, for my own > edification, I'm wondering why you archive to Hi-8 tapes rather than > archive quality DVD's. Capacity? > > Don/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If some kind person could explain to me what I'm doing wrong I would really really appreciate it. /Mats (iMovieHD 5.0.2 on a G5/10.4.11) From gerhardk at mac.com Sat Feb 16 04:36:17 2008 From: gerhardk at mac.com (Gerhard Kuhn) Date: Sat Feb 16 04:39:24 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What are the pixel dimensions of the area of the screen you captured? I.E. if it was 150 x100 the shot would have been interpolated to reach 720 x 480 which would result in poor looking video. Gerhard On Feb 16, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Mats Eriksson wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to import screenshots (.png files) into iMovie but > regardless of which size or format I save them in or how I import > them they look like crap in iMovie. If some kind person could > explain to me what I'm doing wrong I would really really appreciate > it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I.E. if it was 150 x100 the shot would have been >interpolated to reach 720 x 480 which would result in poor looking >video. > >Gerhard /Mats From shirleykat at mac.com Sat Feb 16 10:47:41 2008 From: shirleykat at mac.com (Shirley Kehr) Date: Sat Feb 16 10:47:50 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52023A22-B40D-43BD-8F1D-BA248758C03C@mac.com> Did you change them in Photoshop AFTER you got the bad results? Shirley On Feb 16, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mats Eriksson wrote: > The originals are 765x503 and then I have tried to changed them to > both 720x480 and 720x576 (I live in Sweden) but they are never as > sharp in iMovie as they are in Photoshop. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080216/c788e9fd/attachment.html From mats.eriksson at plantphys.umu.se Sat Feb 16 11:04:50 2008 From: mats.eriksson at plantphys.umu.se (Mats Eriksson) Date: Sat Feb 16 11:05:09 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie Message-ID: First I tried to just drop the .png-files in iMovie and when that didn't work I changed them in Photoshop and saved them as jpegs (and tiffs and psds and ......), but whatever I do to them they never look any better then when I use the original png-files I get with "command-shift-4". /Mats >Did you change them in Photoshop AFTER you got the bad results? > >Shirley From jimash at optonline.net Sat Feb 16 11:49:19 2008 From: jimash at optonline.net (James Asherman) Date: Sat Feb 16 11:49:50 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> Are you looking at it on a separate monitor or just in the little iMovie window ? That display only gets you so far. render a few seconds of movie of your still to the end format you want and see if that looks better in Quicktime player . Jim On Feb 16, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Mats Eriksson wrote:e > First I tried to just drop the .png-files in iMovie and when that > didn't work I changed them in Photoshop and saved them as jpegs (and > tiffs and psds and ......), but whatever I do to them they never > look any better then when I use the original png-files I get with > "command-shift-4". > > /Mats > >> Did you change them in Photoshop AFTER you got the bad results? >> >> Shirley > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From ewiser at bellsouth.net Sat Feb 16 12:40:42 2008 From: ewiser at bellsouth.net (Ed Wiser) Date: Sat Feb 16 12:40:50 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> Message-ID: <89C038D5-3CCA-4E2C-A898-D0D4B9266FCB@bellsouth.net> Really going out the way to do screen shots. I use Snapz Pro x http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ Oh an a new program which is just fantastic Screeflow. http://www.varasoftware.com/products/screenflow/ i teach classes online so these are essential apps to me. I am always doing screen shots. From mats.eriksson at plantphys.umu.se Sat Feb 16 12:54:11 2008 From: mats.eriksson at plantphys.umu.se (Mats Eriksson) Date: Sat Feb 16 12:55:21 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> Message-ID: I've tried that and it looks the same. /Mats >Are you looking at it on a separate monitor or just in the little >iMovie window ? >That display only gets you so far. render a few seconds of movie of >your still to the end format you want and see if that looks better >in Quicktime player . >Jim From stever at mindspring.com Sun Feb 17 05:45:30 2008 From: stever at mindspring.com (Steve Robertson) Date: Sun Feb 17 05:46:24 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> Message-ID: I usually use screen shots in a "Ken Burns Effect" sequence. While I use FCE as my primary editor, I often create my pan and scan sequences in iMovie. I discovered (by accident) that iPhoto seems to play a role in optimizing stills for use in iMovie. I never worry about resolution or pixel shape (except to make sure my original stills or screen shots have a large enough size measured in pixels). Just the act of opening your media storage bin in iMovie and choosing a photo from the iPhoto selection always does a pretty good job for me. Steve R. On Feb 16, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Mats Eriksson wrote: > I've tried that and it looks the same. > > /Mats > >> Are you looking at it on a separate monitor or just in the little >> iMovie window ? >> That display only gets you so far. render a few seconds of movie >> of your still to the end format you want and see if that looks >> better in Quicktime player . >> Jim > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From winter at mac.com Sun Feb 17 07:23:13 2008 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Sun Feb 17 07:23:24 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 16, 2008, at 5:34 AM, Mats Eriksson wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to import screenshots (.png files) into iMovie but > regardless of which size or format I save them in or how I import > them they look like crap in iMovie. Are you taking into account that by the time iMovie downgrades the image to TV resolution it will look like crap? Especially if you're not using HD. It can look twice as bad if you've increased the size of the iMovie window so that its "blowing up" the low resolution image for display on your high resolution computer monitor. That's all I can come up with anyway. -Mike From josh at joshrenaud.com Sun Feb 17 11:12:25 2008 From: josh at joshrenaud.com (Josh Renaud) Date: Sun Feb 17 11:12:34 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: MacDV Digest, Vol 43, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <20080216124416.F18E9DADBB6@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 2/16/08 6:44 AM, "macdv-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com" wrote: > I am thinking the same, to revert the video to analog and then if you > ever need to revive these archives may bring future problems as you > have taken the archives technically further back in time than > necessary. I would suggest you back them up to mini DV or digital 8, > either tape format will not compress the iMovie data, if possible I > would choose the mini DV plus the same file on a hard drive. I should have clarified that I am using Hi-8/Digital-8 tapes. I am archiving in digital-8 format, so there is no conversion back to analog. In any event, the problem remains that my camera is giving me this copyright warning, even though I suspect neither of the videos is actually copy-protected (otherwise, iMovie wouldn't have let me import them, right?) --Josh From rotorwash at mac.com Sun Feb 17 23:58:52 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Sun Feb 17 23:59:26 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: <89C038D5-3CCA-4E2C-A898-D0D4B9266FCB@bellsouth.net> References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> <89C038D5-3CCA-4E2C-A898-D0D4B9266FCB@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Using Screenflow or Snapz Pro X, these are not screenshots, theses are movies of screen actions. The output is a DV file, a movie. Screenshots are .JPG or .PNG files, they are snap shots or photos of the screen, no motion, just a picture. iMovie does not need to render a DV file (movie). iMovie does want to render screenshots, photos of the screen, .JPG or .PNG files. When iMovie asks to render before sending to iDVD, do not allow iMovie to do so, let the rendering occur in iDVD. Mike On Feb 16, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Ed Wiser wrote: > Really going out the way to do screen shots. > I use Snapz Pro x > http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ > > Oh an a new program which is just fantastic Screeflow. > > http://www.varasoftware.com/products/screenflow/ > > i teach classes online so these are essential apps to me. > I am always doing screen shots. No, you are making movies of screen actions! :) From rotorwash at mac.com Mon Feb 18 00:08:08 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Mon Feb 18 00:09:00 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> <89C038D5-3CCA-4E2C-A898-D0D4B9266FCB@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <69DBD892-B678-4CF5-B81B-A9BB39B9B575@mac.com> On Feb 18, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > Using Screenflow or Snapz Pro X, these are not screenshots, theses > are movies of screen actions. > The output is a DV file, a movie. > > Screenshots are .JPG or .PNG files, they are snap shots or photos of > the screen, no motion, just a picture. > > iMovie does not need to render a DV file (movie). > iMovie does want to render screenshots, photos of the screen, .JPG > or .PNG files. > > When iMovie asks to render before sending to iDVD, do not allow > iMovie to do so, let the rendering occur in iDVD. > > Mike When exporting to iDVD, an iMovie dialog displays "Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?" The responses are "Proceed Anyway", "Cancel", "Render and Proceed" iMovie makes it sound like to get the best quality, you need to click the "Render and Proceed" button. But do not do so. Click the "Proceed Anyway" button and let iDVD do the rendering. iMovie will not present this dialog again if you have pressed "Render and Proceed". To be able to have the dialog box presented again, the preference file for iMovie must be deleted. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080218/e9609c2b/attachment.html From derek at unm.edu Mon Feb 18 09:29:24 2008 From: derek at unm.edu (Derek Roff) Date: Mon Feb 18 09:30:19 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie Message-ID: <01C1F22D717A703F5187E782@[192.168.1.104]> > Using Screenflow or Snapz Pro X, these are not screenshots, theses > are movies of screen actions. This is not necessarily true for Snapz Pro X. You have to pay extra to get the capability of making movies of screen actions, and in that case, you still have the choice of capturing still images, in addition to movies. I've never used Screenflow, but I suspect it also offers a choice between stills and movies. In Tiger, and I presume in Leopard, you can change (at will) the default format used by OS X for screen captures. Changing the default requires a single command typed into Terminal. (The new default is activated by logging out and back in, restarting, or typing a second command in terminal). The method is explained at the URL below, as well as on other web sites. The utility OnyX will allow changing the default, via a more graphical interface. download OnyX: It's possible that saving the screen captures directly in jpeg or another format would give Mats better results in iMovie than the png conversions that he has tried. But I wouldn't be amazed if the results were similar. For what it's worth, you can also convert image formats using Preview. Open a screen shot or other image in Preview, and choose Save As from the File menu. Within the Save As menu, you can choose between about a dozen still image formats, including jpeg, bmp, tiff, Photoshop, pdf, and others. Derek Derek Roff Language Learning Center Ortega Hall 129, MSC03-2100 University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001 505/277-7368, fax 505/277-3885 Internet: derek@unm.edu From gerhardk at mac.com Mon Feb 18 10:48:51 2008 From: gerhardk at mac.com (Gerhard Kuhn) Date: Mon Feb 18 10:50:45 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: <4EF593B4-3EEC-4C09-B1E1-C872AB70C2E7@mac.com> References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> <89C038D5-3CCA-4E2C-A898-D0D4B9266FCB@bellsouth.net> <4EF593B4-3EEC-4C09-B1E1-C872AB70C2E7@mac.com> Message-ID: <25086871-195B-4935-8B13-19D65D4B024A@mac.com> I found that Preview does a nice job converting .png files to more common formats, just drag to Preview icon then click on Save As and click on the format you want from the drop down menu. I haven't done a lot of capturing of screen animations so I tried this the result is at the linked page. http://www.mypixel.ca/pngm/pngtogif.html Gerhard On Feb 18, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Shirley Kehr wrote: > Snapz Pro X also does static screenshots. I got tired of PCs not > being able to open .png files and started using Snapz Pro to capture > GIFs directly instead of converting every .png file in Photoshop. > > Shirley > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080218/42b3e5f1/attachment.html From shirleykat at mac.com Mon Feb 18 11:06:13 2008 From: shirleykat at mac.com (Shirley Kehr) Date: Mon Feb 18 11:06:48 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: <01C1F22D717A703F5187E782@[192.168.1.104]> References: <01C1F22D717A703F5187E782@[192.168.1.104]> Message-ID: <1F5BF635-D86B-441F-9DFF-CBE958974BD1@mac.com> Thanks for this. It was my first time to use Terminal and I wasn't sure what to do after typing the command. I pressed Return, then quit and restarted. I now have .jpg screen captures the easy way (Command- Shift-4). I also wasn't sure whether to use .jpg or just jpg. I did the latter. Now I'll probably use Snapz Pro X only for movies. I used it a lot capturing news clips during the CA fires last October. I had just sold my Silverado Canyon house 2 months before, so I was very interested in what my buyer and ex-neighbors were going through. I'm thinking of making a slideshow type movie of my 29 years in the canyon and those captures might be interesting at the end. Shirley On Feb 18, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Derek Roff wrote: > In Tiger, and I presume in Leopard, you can change (at will) the > default format used by OS X for screen captures. Changing the > default requires a single command typed into Terminal. (The new > default is activated by logging out and back in, restarting, or > typing a second command in terminal). The method is explained at > the URL below, as well as on other web sites. The utility OnyX > will allow changing the default, via a more graphical interface. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080218/3a1a3927/attachment.html From rotorwash at mac.com Mon Feb 18 11:43:46 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Mon Feb 18 11:44:35 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: <4EF593B4-3EEC-4C09-B1E1-C872AB70C2E7@mac.com> References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> <89C038D5-3CCA-4E2C-A898-D0D4B9266FCB@bellsouth.net> <4EF593B4-3EEC-4C09-B1E1-C872AB70C2E7@mac.com> Message-ID: <95F1156A-3548-41E2-A43E-3C1B9E3D55EF@mac.com> Shirley, sorry, I was referring to how the other user made use of Screenflow and Snapz Pro X. Sadly, I can not type up all I'd like to say on this list due to the 5 K limit. I have included more and when it exceeds the 5 K limit, the messages are never approved and posted. So, yes, what you say is also true, it would have pushed the other msg past the spiffy limit to describe all in one and I don't feel it is useful to have a topic scattered across several emails. As in... (continued in the next email....) :) BTW, use Preview to convert from .PNG to .GIF or .PDF or what have you. Much quicker than using PhotoShop if that is all you need to do is a file conversion. You already have Snapz Pro X though so no need to of course. I just dislike how long it takes Snapz Pro X to launch the first time. After that, it's quick of course. Mike On Feb 18, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Shirley Kehr wrote: > Snapz Pro X also does static screenshots. I got tired of PCs not > being able to open .png files and started using Snapz Pro to capture > GIFs directly instead of converting every .png file in Photoshop. > > Shirley > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > >> Using Screenflow or Snapz Pro X, these are not screenshots, theses >> are movies of screen actions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080218/bf8cac82/attachment.html From rotorwash at mac.com Mon Feb 18 11:56:14 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Mon Feb 18 11:59:17 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Screenshot to iMovie In-Reply-To: <01C1F22D717A703F5187E782@[192.168.1.104]> References: <01C1F22D717A703F5187E782@[192.168.1.104]> Message-ID: <4EEFCAFE-B2F7-44E6-9324-D486F29C21E7@mac.com> Sorry I even mentioned it now :) Yes, you can do screenshots as files in the two apps. Most people use those apps to capture motion, not screenshots to a .JPG, or .PNG. Forget the above, please. Please, what I am taking time here to relate is about iMovie's known problem rendering .JPG or .PNGs to a .DV file, the rendering. Simply do not have iMovie do that work, let iDVD do it. Or, use another product, such as Photo to Movie, ScreenFlow, Snapz Pro X (assuming you have paid for the movie feature, yes). I'll continue in the next email, the next email is all about the question at hand, allowing someone to have iMovie ask again, regarding rendering before sending the movie project on to iDVD. This question is only asked once by iMovie and the way to get the dialog box to appear again is to delete the com.apple.imovie.plist file On Feb 18, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Derek Roff wrote: > It's possible that saving the screen captures directly in jpeg or > another format would give Mats better results in iMovie than the png > conversions that he has tried. But I wouldn't be amazed if the > results were similar. For what it's worth, you can also convert > image formats using Preview. Open a screen shot or other image in > Preview, and choose Save As from the File menu. Within the Save As > menu, you can choose between about a dozen still image formats, > including jpeg, bmp, tiff, Photoshop, pdf, and others. > > Derek From rotorwash at mac.com Mon Feb 18 12:04:01 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Mon Feb 18 12:05:11 2008 Subject: [MacDV] forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again Message-ID: <7BE77D4F-6365-4A57-9415-0498EBEEB906@mac.com> When iMovie asks "Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?" The responses are "Proceed Anyway", "Cancel", "Render and Proceed". The impression is that iMovie will do the better job of rendering. Not true of course, iDVD will. So click each time this displays "Proceed Anyway". If the "Render and Proceed" button is clicked just once, this dialog never displays again to give you the option of letting iDVD do the rendering. To have iMovie display the dialog again, the com.apple.iMovie.plist file needs to be deleted. Search for it and delete it. Or you can navigate to it at Users//Library/ Preferences/com.apple.iMovie.plist Mike From nssab3 at earthlink.net Mon Feb 18 16:00:00 2008 From: nssab3 at earthlink.net (Norman S. Briskman) Date: Mon Feb 18 16:01:04 2008 Subject: [MacDV] forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: <7BE77D4F-6365-4A57-9415-0498EBEEB906@mac.com> References: <7BE77D4F-6365-4A57-9415-0498EBEEB906@mac.com> Message-ID: <5DDB63AE-D61D-43E2-A9EB-62D674383EFB@earthlink.net> After reading all of this thread I am left with a question. When I finish an edit in iMovie I export it to the camcorder mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. I have always selected the "Render and Proceed" in the process. Do I understand that this is not a preferred choice, or dose it only apply to using iDVD? Norman On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > > > When iMovie asks "Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or > reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will > provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?" > The responses are "Proceed Anyway", "Cancel", "Render and Proceed". > From rotorwash at mac.com Mon Feb 18 18:51:45 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Mon Feb 18 18:52:08 2008 Subject: [MacDV] forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: <5DDB63AE-D61D-43E2-A9EB-62D674383EFB@earthlink.net> References: <7BE77D4F-6365-4A57-9415-0498EBEEB906@mac.com> <5DDB63AE-D61D-43E2-A9EB-62D674383EFB@earthlink.net> Message-ID: That is correct. It is preferred to let some other app other than iMovie render stills. Mike On Feb 18, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Norman S. Briskman wrote: > After reading all of this thread I am left with a question. When I > finish an edit in iMovie I export it > to the camcorder mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > I have always selected > the "Render and Proceed" in the process. Do I understand that this > is not a preferred choice, or > dose it only apply to using iDVD? > > Norman > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > >> >> >> When iMovie asks "Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or >> reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will >> provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?" >> The responses are "Proceed Anyway", "Cancel", "Render and Proceed". >> > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From gordon at gordonalley.com Mon Feb 18 19:05:36 2008 From: gordon at gordonalley.com (Gordon Alley) Date: Mon Feb 18 19:06:25 2008 Subject: [MacDV] forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: References: <7BE77D4F-6365-4A57-9415-0498EBEEB906@mac.com> <5DDB63AE-D61D-43E2-A9EB-62D674383EFB@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9694f6510802181905w5b32bd7bmed391219ddcf28a0@mail.gmail.com> OK. I'll bite. If I want to output to to video tape, rather than to a DVD, what's the best app to use to render stills? -Gordon On Feb 18, 2008 8:51 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > That is correct. It is preferred to let some other app other than > iMovie render stills. > > Mike > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Norman S. Briskman wrote: > > > After reading all of this thread I am left with a question. When I > > finish an edit in iMovie I export it > > to the camcorder mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > > I have always selected > > the "Render and Proceed" in the process. Do I understand that this > > is not a preferred choice, or > > dose it only apply to using iDVD? > > > > Norman > > > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> When iMovie asks "Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or > >> reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will > >> provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?" > >> The responses are "Proceed Anyway", "Cancel", "Render and Proceed". > >> > -- Gordon B. Alley http://www.gordonalley.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080218/fbf69d33/attachment.html From rotorwash at mac.com Mon Feb 18 20:06:35 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Mon Feb 18 20:06:51 2008 Subject: [MacDV] forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: <9694f6510802181905w5b32bd7bmed391219ddcf28a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7BE77D4F-6365-4A57-9415-0498EBEEB906@mac.com> <5DDB63AE-D61D-43E2-A9EB-62D674383EFB@earthlink.net> <9694f6510802181905w5b32bd7bmed391219ddcf28a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <81D8D3C2-9ED3-4975-8720-DC263ED0928A@mac.com> Do I dare answer? Mike :) On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Gordon Alley wrote: > OK. I'll bite. > > If I want to output to to video tape, rather than to a DVD, what's > the best app to use to render stills? > > -Gordon > > On Feb 18, 2008 8:51 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > That is correct. It is preferred to let some other app other than > iMovie render stills. > > Mike > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Norman S. Briskman wrote: > > > After reading all of this thread I am left with a question. When I > > finish an edit in iMovie I export it > > to the camcorder mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > > I have always selected > > the "Render and Proceed" in the process. Do I understand that this > > is not a preferred choice, or > > dose it only apply to using iDVD? > > > > Norman > > > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> When iMovie asks "Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or > >> reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will > >> provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?" > >> The responses are "Proceed Anyway", "Cancel", "Render and Proceed". > >> > -- > Gordon B. Alley > http://www.gordonalley.com > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080218/d520cabc/attachment.html From carlian at picknowl.com.au Mon Feb 18 21:42:41 2008 From: carlian at picknowl.com.au (TUCKER ian) Date: Mon Feb 18 21:43:05 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Rendering Stills Message-ID: <0DF23910-8E61-4F93-B63C-173880AF4CC5@picknowl.com.au> Picking up on this thread and FWIW, Users of FCP and presumably FCE should de-interlace all stills prior to exporting the final product. This makes a huge difference Unfortunately, this will not help iMovie users. Ian T. Do I dare answer? Mike :) On Feb 18, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Gordon Alley wrote: > OK. I'll bite. > > If I want to output to to video tape, rather than to a DVD, what's > the best app to use to render stills? > > -Gordon > > On Feb 18, 2008 8:51 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > That is correct. It is preferred to let some other app other than > iMovie render stills. > > Mike > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Norman S. Briskman wrote: > > > After reading all of this thread I am left with a question. When I > > finish an edit in iMovie I export it > > to the camcorder mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > > I have always selected > > the "Render and Proceed" in the process. Do I understand that this > > is not a preferred choice, or > > dose it only apply to using iDVD? > > > > Norman > > > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> When iMovie asks "Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or > >> reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will > >> provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?" > >> The responses are "Proceed Anyway", "Cancel", "Render and Proceed". > >> > -- > Gordon B. 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080219/7694942b/attachment.html From videovideo at mac.com Tue Feb 19 09:00:01 2008 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Tue Feb 19 09:01:31 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Screenshot to iMovie - use a Widget for Capture In-Reply-To: <4EF593B4-3EEC-4C09-B1E1-C872AB70C2E7@mac.com> References: <6D88B64A-E479-4BB6-9ABD-696EBBE1D572@optonline.net> <89C038D5-3CCA-4E2C-A898-D0D4B9266FCB@bellsouth.net> <4EF593B4-3EEC-4C09-B1E1-C872AB70C2E7@mac.com> Message-ID: I use a Capture Widget which allows you to pick the codec: http://www.vanillasoap.com/widgets/ regards, sb On Feb 18, 2008, at 8:51 AM, Shirley Kehr wrote: > Snapz Pro X also does static screenshots. I got tired of PCs not > being able to open .png files and started using Snapz Pro to capture > GIFs directly instead of converting every .png file in Photoshop. > > Shirley > > On Feb 18, 2008, at 2:58 AM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > >> Using Screenflow or Snapz Pro X, these are not screenshots, theses >> are movies of screen actions. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080219/27e2a69d/attachment-0001.html From Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net Tue Feb 19 19:34:37 2008 From: Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net (Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net) Date: Tue Feb 19 19:35:06 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Norman wrote: >When I finish an edit in iMovie I export it to the camcorder >mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. Is this typical? I would have thought one would export iMovie directly to iDVD. From lcotler at willitsonline.com Tue Feb 19 19:40:41 2008 From: lcotler at willitsonline.com (Lanny Cotler) Date: Tue Feb 19 19:41:30 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <90929E0D-0941-4CE8-BF7A-0C0B7AC698E6@willitsonline.com> I'll let others better experienced with iMovie jump in. But indeed, you want to go from iMovie directly to iDVD. On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net wrote: > Norman wrote: > >> When I finish an edit in iMovie I export it to the camcorder >> mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > > Is this typical? I would have thought one would export iMovie > directly to iDVD. From rotorwash at mac.com Tue Feb 19 19:42:31 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Tue Feb 19 19:42:47 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <1D5F3EEC-88FE-480A-8742-65E838527DB5@mac.com> The tape is being used as the storage media in place of using a hard drive as the storage media. If you had a large enough USB key, you could use that as the storage media, as an example... Mike On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net wrote: > Norman wrote: > >> When I finish an edit in iMovie I export it to the camcorder >> mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > > Is this typical? I would have thought one would export iMovie > directly to iDVD. > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From gordon at gordonalley.com Tue Feb 19 20:06:51 2008 From: gordon at gordonalley.com (Gordon Alley) Date: Tue Feb 19 20:07:05 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <9694f6510802192006h4bf5cc05l762db3331a16bb51@mail.gmail.com> If you want an archival copy of the movie, miniDV tape or a highest-quality DV file on a disc would retain the best quality. What I've been doing recently is to backup the iMovie and iDVD projects and associated media files to a set of DATA DVDs. Printable TDK DVD-Rs can be purchased on 100-disc spindles at CostCo for a bit over $30, which works out to a bit over $0.30 per disc, so it can be more time- and cost-effective than backing up to miniDV tape. I'm not sure about the lifetime of the media, though. -Gordon On Feb 19, 2008 9:34 PM, wrote: > Norman wrote: > > >When I finish an edit in iMovie I export it to the camcorder > >mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > > Is this typical? I would have thought one would export iMovie > directly to iDVD. > > -- Gordon B. Alley http://www.gordonalley.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080219/889b0b21/attachment.html From stever at mindspring.com Wed Feb 20 05:25:16 2008 From: stever at mindspring.com (Steve Robertson) Date: Wed Feb 20 05:26:02 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Capturing Video to External Drives In-Reply-To: <90929E0D-0941-4CE8-BF7A-0C0B7AC698E6@willitsonline.com> References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <90929E0D-0941-4CE8-BF7A-0C0B7AC698E6@willitsonline.com> Message-ID: <8934A585-C58E-45A8-A423-B29CB6317E46@mindspring.com> Hi Folks, The last time I bought an external drive to use as a scratch disk (probably four years ago) FireWire 400 was the state of the art, and the consensus was that a FireWire drive was the only choice for capturing video. Now I'm trying to use a MacBook as a portable editing platform. It only has one FireWire port. Plugging my camcorder into the second port on the external FireWire drive doesn't seem to work for me. Have external USB drives improved enough that they cam be used to capture video? Thanks, Steve R. From gerhardk at mac.com Wed Feb 20 07:42:56 2008 From: gerhardk at mac.com (Gerhard Kuhn) Date: Wed Feb 20 07:43:27 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Capturing Video to External Drives In-Reply-To: <8934A585-C58E-45A8-A423-B29CB6317E46@mindspring.com> References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <90929E0D-0941-4CE8-BF7A-0C0B7AC698E6@willitsonline.com> <8934A585-C58E-45A8-A423-B29CB6317E46@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <3575A630-0118-1000-A581-95C594BBAF94-Webmail-10021@mac.com> I have captured successfully to a USB 2 drive but then I never had any trouble daisy chaining a firewire drive with the camcorder. From what I understand the portable and iMac computers with two firewire 400 it is only a hub so the second connection does not actually increase bandwidth. Gerhard On Wednesday, February 20, 2008, at 08:26AM, "Steve Robertson" wrote: >Hi Folks, > >The last time I bought an external drive to use as a scratch disk >(probably four years ago) FireWire 400 was the state of the art, and >the consensus was that a FireWire drive was the only choice for >capturing video. > >Now I'm trying to use a MacBook as a portable editing platform. It >only has one FireWire port. Plugging my camcorder into the second >port on the external FireWire drive doesn't seem to work for me. Have >external USB drives improved enough that they cam be used to capture >video? > >Thanks, >Steve R._______________________________________________ From radbourne7144 at rogers.com Wed Feb 20 07:55:56 2008 From: radbourne7144 at rogers.com (Brent Radbourne) Date: Wed Feb 20 07:56:04 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Capturing Video to External Drives In-Reply-To: <8934A585-C58E-45A8-A423-B29CB6317E46@mindspring.com> References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <90929E0D-0941-4CE8-BF7A-0C0B7AC698E6@willitsonline.com> <8934A585-C58E-45A8-A423-B29CB6317E46@mindspring.com> Message-ID: As long as they're USB2, no problem Brent On 20-Feb-08, at 8:25 AM, Steve Robertson wrote: > Hi Folks, > > The last time I bought an external drive to use as a scratch disk > (probably four years ago) FireWire 400 was the state of the art, > and the consensus was that a FireWire drive was the only choice for > capturing video. > > Now I'm trying to use a MacBook as a portable editing platform. It > only has one FireWire port. Plugging my camcorder into the second > port on the external FireWire drive doesn't seem to work for me. > Have external USB drives improved enough that they cam be used to > capture video? > > Thanks, > Steve R. > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From mmodrzejewski at shaw.ca Wed Feb 20 16:57:58 2008 From: mmodrzejewski at shaw.ca (Martin Modrzejewski) Date: Wed Feb 20 16:59:39 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: <9694f6510802192006h4bf5cc05l762db3331a16bb51@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <9694f6510802192006h4bf5cc05l762db3331a16bb51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The best quality copy you can make is still to export out of iMovie back to a blank tape in your camcorder. A DVD, while acceptable, will loose quality due to compression. That's only important if you have any intention of ever re-editing the footage in the future Martin On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Gordon Alley wrote: > If you want an archival copy of the movie, miniDV tape or a highest- > quality DV file on a disc would retain the best quality. What I've > been doing recently is to backup the iMovie and iDVD projects and > associated media files to a set of DATA DVDs. > > Printable TDK DVD-Rs can be purchased on 100-disc spindles at > CostCo for a bit over $30, which works out to a bit over $0.30 per > disc, so it can be more time- and cost-effective than backing up to > miniDV tape. I'm not sure about the lifetime of the media, though. > > -Gordon > > On Feb 19, 2008 9:34 PM, wrote: > Norman wrote: > > >When I finish an edit in iMovie I export it to the camcorder > >mini dv tape. From that tape I can make VHS or DVD. > > Is this typical? I would have thought one would export iMovie > directly to iDVD. > > -- > Gordon B. Alley > http://www.gordonalley.com > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080220/066a2033/attachment-0001.html From gerhardk at mac.com Wed Feb 20 17:05:04 2008 From: gerhardk at mac.com (Gerhard Kuhn) Date: Wed Feb 20 17:05:28 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie contains still, slow motion, and/or reverse clips which need to be rendered for this export. This will provide the best quality. Would you like to render them now?] again In-Reply-To: References: <20080219170138.CF389E3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <9694f6510802192006h4bf5cc05l762db3331a16bb51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The way I read the message was that they wanted to burn a data DVD of the DV file not a video DVD. With the advent of Blue Ray disks this is becoming a more feasible idea, 50 gb disk would hold 4 + hours of DV footage. Gerhard On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Martin Modrzejewski wrote: > The best quality copy you can make is still to export out of iMovie > back to a blank tape in your camcorder. A DVD, while acceptable, > will loose quality due to compression. That's only important if you > have any intention of ever re-editing the footage in the future > Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080220/a21b9eff/attachment.html From patty1 at sonic.net Wed Feb 20 17:19:38 2008 From: patty1 at sonic.net (Patty Winter) Date: Wed Feb 20 17:19:48 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog Message-ID: <200802210119.m1L1JcEk019953@bolt.sonic.net> >From: Martin Modrzejewski > >The best quality copy you can make is still to export out of iMovie >back to a blank tape in your camcorder. Is tape really better than saving an uncompressed DV file to a hard drive?? Patty From nssab3 at earthlink.net Wed Feb 20 19:14:37 2008 From: nssab3 at earthlink.net (Norman S. Briskman) Date: Wed Feb 20 19:14:44 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog In-Reply-To: <200802210119.m1L1JcEk019953@bolt.sonic.net> References: <200802210119.m1L1JcEk019953@bolt.sonic.net> Message-ID: No. They should be the same. On Feb 20, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Patty Winter wrote: >> From: Martin Modrzejewski >> >> The best quality copy you can make is still to export out of iMovie >> back to a blank tape in your camcorder. > > Is tape really better than saving an uncompressed DV file to > a hard drive?? > From rotorwash at mac.com Wed Feb 20 22:35:28 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Wed Feb 20 22:35:52 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog In-Reply-To: <200802210119.m1L1JcEk019953@bolt.sonic.net> References: <200802210119.m1L1JcEk019953@bolt.sonic.net> Message-ID: <3FFBB12F-BB04-49D7-A8C9-E5FF24E03BC7@mac.com> Spot on Patty. Tape is far less reliable than today's hard drives. The access to files on a tape is serial, meaning if you wanted a file that was half- way into the tape, there is a wait to access and copy the file. A hard drive gives direct access to individual files. So if you have a 3 minute clip, you can either save it to a hard drive for easy access or it would be somewhere on a 1 hour tape. Mike On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Patty Winter wrote: >> From: Martin Modrzejewski >> >> The best quality copy you can make is still to export out of iMovie >> back to a blank tape in your camcorder. > > Is tape really better than saving an uncompressed DV file to > a hard drive?? > > > Patty > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From nssab3 at earthlink.net Thu Feb 21 07:14:42 2008 From: nssab3 at earthlink.net (Norman S. Briskman) Date: Thu Feb 21 07:15:24 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog In-Reply-To: <3FFBB12F-BB04-49D7-A8C9-E5FF24E03BC7@mac.com> References: <200802210119.m1L1JcEk019953@bolt.sonic.net> <3FFBB12F-BB04-49D7-A8C9-E5FF24E03BC7@mac.com> Message-ID: <7421FF15-3F40-40AE-B19F-DD4E96A21B0F@earthlink.net> On Feb 21, 2008, at 1:35 AM, Mike Rehbein wrote: > Spot on Patty. > Tape is far less reliable than today's hard drives. > Mike, you make a good point. What about tape that can be referenced? >>> The best quality copy you can make is still to export out of iMovie >>> back to a blank tape in your camcorder. >>> Is tape really better than saving an uncompressed DV file to a >>> hard drive? Mike, this seems to be a question of quality. From Cool at hosting4days.com Thu Feb 21 07:16:47 2008 From: Cool at hosting4days.com (revDAVE) Date: Thu Feb 21 07:17:05 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Capturing Video to External Drives In-Reply-To: <8934A585-C58E-45A8-A423-B29CB6317E46@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On 2/20/2008 5:25 AM, "Steve Robertson" wrote: > Now I'm trying to use a MacBook as a portable editing platform. It > only has one FireWire port. Plugging my camcorder into the second > port on the external FireWire drive doesn't seem to work for me. Have > external USB drives improved enough that they cam be used to capture > video? I definitely had problems importing from a firewire camera when there were more than a few firewire drives connected at the time ... It was suggested to get a firewire hub to cure this problem (I never got around to it.) -- Thanks - RevDave Cool @ hosting4days . com [db-lists] From mats.eriksson at plantphys.umu.se Thu Feb 21 13:11:05 2008 From: mats.eriksson at plantphys.umu.se (Mats Eriksson) Date: Thu Feb 21 13:12:08 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Exporting to camera Message-ID: When I'm exporting some of my iMovie projects back to tape the audio/video is out of sync, with the audio about 1 sec ahead of the video. Does anyone know any common reasons for this? I'm using iMovie HD 5.0.2 on a G5 iMac (10.4.11) and I'm exporting to a TRV900 that's getting it power through the power cord (i.e. not the battery) and I'm not running any other programs simultaneously. /Mats From v.salupo at comcast.net Thu Feb 21 16:49:07 2008 From: v.salupo at comcast.net (Vince Salupo) Date: Thu Feb 21 16:49:26 2008 Subject: [MacDV] iMovie Still Render Bug- was: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie ... Message-ID: This thread has two titles and has been going for 4 digests and no one has mentioned the iMovie bug that is at the root of this still quality problem. It took me 4 years to finally get an answer but there is one buried in the Apple forums. The secret to quality stills in iMovie versions 2 through 6 is the Ken Burns effect. The bug has been in every version of iMovie and involves its conversion algorithms which downgrade conversions to the lowest resolution in the project, NTSC/PAL video. Turning off the Ken Burns effect leads to the dreaded iMovie prompt to "Render and Proceed". There are other effects that cause this dialog but if you only have still images in iMovie (no transitions or effects) you only get this message if you import with Ken Burns OFF. You will get perfect quality stills if you leave the Ken Burns effect ON. Import your photo. Go to the Media pane and select the "Show Photo Settings" button at the bottom of the Photo pane. Enable the Ken Burns checkbox. Adjust the Ken Burns settings to a ratio of 1.00 for both Start and End. Set the duration for your liking and let Ken Burns render your image. Voila! You get a excellent quality still image. I have only tried this with .gif and .jpg files but it works great and the output to my camcorder no longer requires iMovie to render. Once I learned this trick, slideshows in iMovie became a reality. I have had 20 minute slideshows in iMovie using 6 megapixel photos that come out crystal clear on a TV. Give it a try. Vince From mmodrzejewski at shaw.ca Thu Feb 21 17:07:01 2008 From: mmodrzejewski at shaw.ca (Martin Modrzejewski) Date: Thu Feb 21 17:07:22 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Exporting to camera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is your audio set to 16bit? If not, it should be. That's my first thought anyway. Most cameras are set to 12bit by default and that has caused a lot of sync problems. Martin On Feb 21, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Mats Eriksson wrote: > When I'm exporting some of my iMovie projects back to tape the > audio/video is out of sync, with the audio about 1 sec ahead of the > video. Does anyone know any common reasons for this? > > I'm using iMovie HD 5.0.2 on a G5 iMac (10.4.11) and I'm exporting > to a TRV900 that's getting it power through the power cord (i.e. > not the battery) and I'm not running any other programs > simultaneously. > > /Mats > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From rotorwash at mac.com Thu Feb 21 20:07:47 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Thu Feb 21 20:08:00 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog In-Reply-To: <7421FF15-3F40-40AE-B19F-DD4E96A21B0F@earthlink.net> References: <200802210119.m1L1JcEk019953@bolt.sonic.net> <3FFBB12F-BB04-49D7-A8C9-E5FF24E03BC7@mac.com> <7421FF15-3F40-40AE-B19F-DD4E96A21B0F@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <14F85156-DB30-41AF-9B8E-E15009FD0587@mac.com> Either storage media can be used to store the DV file. There is no difference in compression, saving a DV file to tape or a hard drive saves the same video quality. The topic is then simply, which media is going to give best service over time, and ease of use. The tape can be referenced any way you wish but you will need to manually move the tape to the location and begin reading and stop reading, again, manually. Moving tape across the heads is a wear and head contamination issue over time. Tape is not as robust a storage media as is a hard drive. Tape wears with each use, much more so than a hard drive does but that won't be a factor if you don't use the tape much. When a spot on the tape becomes unreadable, there goes the file. Tape is not stored inside a nice clean environment as the disk of a drive is. Think of It an external storage media, subject to changes in heat, moisture, contamination. Mike On Feb 21, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Norman S. Briskman wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2008, at 1:35 AM, Mike Rehbein wrote: >> Spot on Patty. >> Tape is far less reliable than today's hard drives. > >> Mike, you make a good point. What about tape that can be referenced? > >>>> The best quality copy you can make is still to export out of iMovie >>>> back to a blank tape in your camcorder. > >>>> Is tape really better than saving an uncompressed DV file to a >>>> hard drive? > > Mike, this seems to be a question of quality. > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From rotorwash at mac.com Thu Feb 21 20:19:23 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Thu Feb 21 20:19:37 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Exporting to camera In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To help in locking the audio to the video, before exporting to tape, try extracting audio in iMovie, then exporting to tape. I think what helps by extracting, the audio is "locked" to to speak, at the beginning of each clip in the movie and this helps maintain the sync with audio and video throughout the movie. Mike On Feb 21, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Mats Eriksson wrote: > When I'm exporting some of my iMovie projects back to tape the audio/ > video is out of sync, with the audio about 1 sec ahead of the video. > Does anyone know any common reasons for this? > > I'm using iMovie HD 5.0.2 on a G5 iMac (10.4.11) and I'm exporting > to a TRV900 that's getting it power through the power cord (i.e. not > the battery) and I'm not running any other programs simultaneously. > > /Mats > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv From rotorwash at mac.com Thu Feb 21 21:03:54 2008 From: rotorwash at mac.com (Mike Rehbein) Date: Thu Feb 21 21:04:52 2008 Subject: [MacDV] iMovie Still Render Bug- was: forcing iMovie to display the dialog ["Your movie ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <587B2D2C-72E3-483E-B65D-B1E8579AC152@mac.com> It is a great work around for the bug but for me, there must be yet another problem with iMovie in that setting the Ken Burns effect to a ratio of 1.00 for both Start and End has not kept the Ken Burns effect from behaving as though the settings were set to something other than 1.00 at Start and End. Thus, I gave up spending time trying to do so and have used alternate work arounds. One of the other messages I posted included a link to http://www.sjoki.uta.fi/~shmhav/iMovie_HD_6_bugs.html Or, I may not have left the link in because it deals with more than the bug for this topic. Thanks for posting it. The info is and has been around in a few places. Since it does not work for me, I do not pass it along. The cut to the chase story is, iMovie can not render stills without a work around. :) Mike On Feb 21, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Vince Salupo wrote: > This thread has two titles and has been going for 4 digests and no > one has > mentioned the iMovie bug that is at the root of this still quality > problem. > > It took me 4 years to finally get an answer but there is one buried > in the > Apple forums. [snip due to list limitations] > > Give it a try. > > Vince > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080221/bd67bcfb/attachment.html From ggorrie at telus.net Fri Feb 22 00:52:20 2008 From: ggorrie at telus.net (Gregg Gorrie) Date: Fri Feb 22 11:30:27 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog In-Reply-To: <14F85156-DB30-41AF-9B8E-E15009FD0587@mac.com> Message-ID: on 2/21/08 8:07 PM, Mike Rehbein at rotorwash@mac.com wrote: > Either storage media can be used to store the DV file. > There is no difference in compression, saving a DV file to tape or a > hard drive saves the same video quality. > > The topic is then simply, which media is going to give best service > over time, and ease of use. > > The tape can be referenced any way you wish but you will need to > manually move the tape to the location and begin reading and stop > reading, again, manually. > > Moving tape across the heads is a wear and head contamination issue > over time. > > Tape is not as robust a storage media as is a hard drive. > > Tape wears with each use, much more so than a hard drive does but that > won't be a factor if you don't use the tape much. > > When a spot on the tape becomes unreadable, there goes the file. > Tape is not stored inside a nice clean environment as the disk of a > drive is. > > Think of It an external storage media, subject to changes in heat, > moisture, contamination. > > Mike I would have to disagree with you on these points. Firstly, I believe the original poster was talking about outputting the final video sequence to DV tape. This is not a file - it is linear digital video. You can access and capture any part of it (albeit much slower than a hard drive) a number of ways. The easiest would be to do a batch capture in something like Final Cut Pro or Premiere, where you can simply input the time codes of the clips you want (TC is on the DV tape) and they will automatically shuttle the DV machine to the appropriate points to capture. Alternatively, you can manually shuttle to the desired points and capture them in iMovie or other programs that don't deal with time code. While tape has it's issues (degradation over time), for long term archival storage it is far superior to a hard drive. All it takes to lose a file on a hard drive is to have a head crash (slight bumps at the wrong time), have the directory or a file corrupted, or sometimes the drive just stop spinning. I have a box full of dead drives that have bitten the dust over the years, and with most of them there were no early warning signs. Hence the absolute requirement to always have a complete backup. Let's say you had a single 12 GB file that held the complete contents of a one hour DV tape. One flaw in that data file and everything is gone. If you get a dropout or two on the DV tape, the media before and after it is still good and you can still salvage the rest of it. Ultimately no matter what format you choose, it's wise to have a regular backup strategy and also have a plan to move your archives to new forms of media as they come into play. At least with digital stuff, you're not losing quality as you do this. For what it's worth, my suggestion would be to keep the stuff on DV tape, get a Blu-Ray burner and make two copies of everything that is important enough to back up, keeping one copy at a separate physical location. Save the hard drives for shorter term works in progress. Gregg From winter at mac.com Fri Feb 22 12:39:14 2008 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Fri Feb 22 12:39:27 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: forcing iMovie to display the dialog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <286310B7-172B-40EF-90A7-2D8A3143A964@mac.com> On Feb 22, 2008, at 2:52 AM, Gregg Gorrie wrote: > Let's say you had a single 12 GB file that held the complete > contents of a > one hour DV tape. One flaw in that data file and everything is gone. That's true, but it shouldn't be. It has always bothered me that we just accept that any file-read failures result in complete file loss. The only reason its a complete file loss is because the software just isn't written to work around the error. There's absolutely no reason computer software shouldn't just show garbage for the bits that don't read properly (wether its video or text) instead of just assuming a total loss. As an example, I've had Stuffit Expander unarchive an archive containing dozens of files and hit an error after retrieving the bulk of them. Instead of telling me the archive could not be fully retrieved, it erases all the files it has successfully unarchived and throws the error up. Fortunately other apps aren't so brain dead in their approach and leave the files that could be retrieved in place. A single read error shouldn't mean a complete failure to read any part of the file for a good OS/Software combination. /rant -Mike From rogoway at infionline.net Sat Feb 23 16:02:17 2008 From: rogoway at infionline.net (Raymond Rogoway) Date: Sat Feb 23 16:02:29 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Singles from a DVD Message-ID: <3F073945-7B72-4A09-A828-C6DCA5D87A4D@infionline.net> My spousal unit (wife) was given a DVD with a slide show on it to use at a baby shower. She would like to extract some of the slides and print them. I can convert the DVD to a Quicktime with Handbrake, but I just got Handbrake and am not at all proficient with it. From the QT I can screen capture but I'm sure quality will suffer. So.... Is there a way, using Handbrake or some other program to extract the clips? Ray Rogoway rogoway@infionline.net From videovideo at mac.com Sat Feb 23 17:28:55 2008 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Sat Feb 23 17:29:09 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Singles from a DVD In-Reply-To: <3F073945-7B72-4A09-A828-C6DCA5D87A4D@infionline.net> References: <3F073945-7B72-4A09-A828-C6DCA5D87A4D@infionline.net> Message-ID: MPEG Streamclip is the program to un-rip a DVD. btw, iDVD has the ability to store the original full quality photos on the disk, besides the MPEG2 versions. It's a very useful feature for just these types of DVD's regards, sb On Feb 23, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Raymond Rogoway wrote: > My spousal unit (wife) was given a DVD with a slide show on it to > use at a baby shower. She would like to extract some of the slides > and print them. > > I can convert the DVD to a Quicktime with Handbrake, but I just got > Handbrake and am not at all proficient with it. From the QT I can > screen capture but I'm sure quality will suffer. > > So.... Is there a way, using Handbrake or some other program to > extract the clips? > > Ray Rogoway > rogoway@infionline.net From gerhardk at mac.com Sat Feb 23 17:32:57 2008 From: gerhardk at mac.com (Gerhard Kuhn) Date: Sat Feb 23 17:33:16 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Singles from a DVD In-Reply-To: <3F073945-7B72-4A09-A828-C6DCA5D87A4D@infionline.net> References: <3F073945-7B72-4A09-A828-C6DCA5D87A4D@infionline.net> Message-ID: <41923647-FB10-4999-92F4-3F96208FE2FD@mac.com> I would expect that if you are trying to make prints larger than 2 x 3 the quality will be terrible and there is not much you could do to improve it. Gerhard On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Raymond Rogoway wrote: > > I can convert the DVD to a Quicktime with Handbrake, but I just got > Handbrake and am not at all proficient with it. From the QT I can > screen capture but I'm sure quality will suffer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080223/4e1e465f/attachment.html From brettnlis at bigpond.com Sat Feb 23 19:00:03 2008 From: brettnlis at bigpond.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Sat Feb 23 19:00:23 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Singles from a DVD In-Reply-To: <41923647-FB10-4999-92F4-3F96208FE2FD@mac.com> References: <3F073945-7B72-4A09-A828-C6DCA5D87A4D@infionline.net> <41923647-FB10-4999-92F4-3F96208FE2FD@mac.com> Message-ID: If you have the video opened in QTPro you should be able to move the slider to the image you want to capture then "Export" a single frame using "Movie to Picture" then press the "Options" button and choose "None" or "Photo ? JPEG" in the compression menu. You'll get a single image file at its original size which you can open in Photoshop etc. Cheers, Cojcolds On 24/02/2008, at 12:32 PM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: > I would expect that if you are trying to make prints larger than 2 x > 3 the quality will be terrible and there is not much you could do to > improve it. > > > Gerhard > > > On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Raymond Rogoway wrote: > >> >> I can convert the DVD to a Quicktime with Handbrake, but I just got >> Handbrake and am not at all proficient with it. From the QT I can >> screen capture but I'm sure quality will suffer. > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080224/a8d5e776/attachment-0001.html From rogoway at infionline.net Sat Feb 23 20:29:38 2008 From: rogoway at infionline.net (Raymond Rogoway) Date: Sat Feb 23 20:29:49 2008 Subject: [MacDV] Singles from a DVD In-Reply-To: References: <3F073945-7B72-4A09-A828-C6DCA5D87A4D@infionline.net> <41923647-FB10-4999-92F4-3F96208FE2FD@mac.com> Message-ID: Perfect !!! Thanks Ray On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > If you have the video opened in QTPro you should be able to move the > slider to the image you want to capture then "Export" a single frame > using "Movie to Picture" then press the "Options" button and choose > "None" or "Photo ? JPEG" in the compression menu. > > You'll get a single image file at its original size which you can > open in Photoshop etc. > > Cheers, > > Cojcolds > > On 24/02/2008, at 12:32 PM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: > >> I would expect that if you are trying to make prints larger than 2 >> x 3 the quality will be terrible and there is not much you could do >> to improve it. >> >> >> Gerhard >> >> >> On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Raymond Rogoway wrote: >> >>> >>> I can convert the DVD to a Quicktime with Handbrake, but I just >>> got Handbrake and am not at all proficient with it. From the QT I >>> can screen capture but I'm sure quality will suffer. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20080223/577ec6fd/attachment.html