From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Fri Jul 4 05:54:21 2008 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Fri Jul 4 05:54:42 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On 30 Jun 2008, at 13:01, MB wrote: > Malcolm Cornelius said: > >> Sounds like it isn't loading properly, I'd remove and reseat it, if >> that doesn't resolve it, replace it. > > Reseat? You mean the actual drive or the drive housing? I suppose the > former would make a difference, but I'm not sure how to do it. It's a slot loading drive that's not ejecting, so it could well be misaligned if I recall correctly, so reseating it may well resolve your issue. Take the bottom plate off and it's there in front of you. If you aren't sure, surf and find a takeapart manual. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From maccare at gwi.net Fri Jul 4 06:00:02 2008 From: maccare at gwi.net (Ralph LEWIS) Date: Fri Jul 4 06:00:23 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Jul 4, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote: > > On 30 Jun 2008, at 13:01, MB wrote: > >> Malcolm Cornelius said: >> >>> Sounds like it isn't loading properly, I'd remove and reseat it, if >>> that doesn't resolve it, replace it. >> >> Reseat? You mean the actual drive or the drive housing? I suppose the >> former would make a difference, but I'm not sure how to do it. > > It's a slot loading drive that's not ejecting, so it could well be > misaligned if I recall correctly, so reseating it may well resolve > your issue. > > Take the bottom plate off and it's there in front of you. > > If you aren't sure, surf and find a takeapart manual. > > -- > Best wishes > > Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic > http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk > > Be sure the slot hasn't been slightly bent in the middle. Try inserting the tip of a screwdriver in the middle and twist to bend the slot wider. Has worked several times on customer computers. Life isn't about what happens to you, it's about how you handle what happens. Ralph LEWIS maccare@gwi.net From digital.discuss at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 03:34:06 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Sat Jul 5 04:26:35 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> Malcolm Cornelius suggested: >It's a slot loading drive that's not ejecting, so it could well be >misaligned if I recall correctly, so reseating it may well resolve >your issue. Hum, it *is* ejecting actually. It doesn't always spin up and read the disc, that's the problem. It also burns CD's as well as DVD's successfully and have no problem spinning up then, including reading the disc when it has been burnt. Also the discs go in and out with no noticable problems. When it does read the disc there are seldom any problems. I'm wondering if the discs internally occasionally get positioned at an askew angle and that's the reason it doesn't spin up porperly. Or maybe the drive is dying on me. It's not very old and I'm not sure about the warranty. From corax at aol.com Sat Jul 5 08:56:29 2008 From: corax at aol.com (David Logan) Date: Sat Jul 5 08:56:55 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PC slot In-Reply-To: <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <8CAACCED220BA00-CF8-BA22@webmail-ne03.sysops.aol.com> can anyone?recommend?an?expansion?card that would?allow?USB 2.0? I have a Ti 1 Gig. this was the first 1 Gig portable from Apple. the back USB ports (1.1) have become "loose" as in, when a plug is inserted it sits loosely in the slot and sometimes needs to be?wiggled?to connect thank?you ?Good Morning and Be Well (copied) (\ /) This is Bunny. (o.o) Copy Bunny into your signature to help (> <) him on his way to world domination. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080705/9336855c/attachment-0001.html From whpalmer4 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 5 10:19:01 2008 From: whpalmer4 at yahoo.com (Bill Palmer) Date: Sat Jul 5 10:19:24 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PC slot In-Reply-To: <8CAACCED220BA00-CF8-BA22@webmail-ne03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <469728.76445.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OtherWorldComputing has PC cards that provide USB 2.0 under the Notebook Accessories tab. Be sure to read carefully, as you don't want to buy a card intended for the smaller expansion slot on the MacBook Pro! I have no affiliation with OWC other than as a happy customer of many years. Bill --- On Sat, 7/5/08, David Logan wrote: > From: David Logan > Subject: [Ti] Ti PC slot > To: titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 8:56 AM > can anyone?recommend?an?expansion?card that > would?allow?USB 2.0? > > > > I have a Ti 1 Gig. this was the first 1 Gig portable from > Apple. > > > > > the back USB ports (1.1) have become "loose" as > in, when a plug is inserted it sits loosely in the slot and > sometimes needs to be?wiggled?to connect > > > > > thank?you > > > ?Good Morning and Be Well > > (copied) > (\ /) This is Bunny. > (o.o) Copy Bunny into your signature to help > (> <) him on his way to world > domination._______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From daniel at keganlaw.com Sat Jul 5 11:14:55 2008 From: daniel at keganlaw.com (Daniel Kkl Kegan) Date: Sat Jul 5 11:15:04 2008 Subject: [Ti] Re: Ti PC slot In-Reply-To: <20080705155651.661232E690C9@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20080705155651.661232E690C9@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <852606DD-7BEE-4684-BFDD-3273EB377E7A@keganlaw.com> IOGear USB 2.0 CardBus Card Model GPU202 works for me. YMMV Provides 2 USB 2.0 ports. Daniel Kegan * daniel@keganlaw.com * Kegan & Kegan, Ltd. We identify, develop, and protect intangible business assets and counsel other professionals on legal issues Balanced Counsel for Smart Clients On Jul 5, 2008, at 10:56 AM, titanium- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > From: David Logan > can anyone recommend an expansion card that would allow USB 2.0? From kalirhe at umdnj.edu Sat Jul 5 11:32:22 2008 From: kalirhe at umdnj.edu (Henry Kalir) Date: Sat Jul 5 11:32:51 2008 Subject: [Ti] Re: Ti PC slot In-Reply-To: <852606DD-7BEE-4684-BFDD-3273EB377E7A@keganlaw.com> References: <20080705155651.661232E690C9@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <852606DD-7BEE-4684-BFDD-3273EB377E7A@keganlaw.com> Message-ID: True, but it won't be able to power the USB device! So, if you're getting a SmartDisk USB 2 HD or a similar device, make sure that it has an outside powersource option - or else you won't be able to use it. Best, Henry ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Kkl Kegan Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008 2:15 pm Subject: [Ti] Re: Ti PC slot To: titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Cc: orax@aol.com > IOGear USB 2.0 CardBus Card Model GPU202 > works for me. YMMV > > Provides 2 USB 2.0 ports. > > Daniel Kegan * daniel@keganlaw.com * Kegan & Kegan, Ltd. > We identify, develop, and protect intangible business assets > and counsel other professionals on legal issues > Balanced Counsel for Smart Clients > > > On Jul 5, 2008, at 10:56 AM, titanium- > request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > > From: David Logan > > can anyone recommend an expansion card that would allow USB 2.0? > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080705/bb9acc4c/attachment.html From pcbooth at swbell.net Sat Jul 5 20:25:36 2008 From: pcbooth at swbell.net (Philip Booth) Date: Sat Jul 5 20:25:51 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PC slot In-Reply-To: <469728.76445.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: >> >> I have a Ti 1 Gig. this was the first 1 Gig portable from >> Apple. >> >> >> >> >> the back USB ports (1.1) have become "loose" as >> in, when a plug is inserted it sits loosely in the slot and >> sometimes needs to be?wiggled?to connect >> >> I bought a Belken PC USB card and it works great. From digital.discuss at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 04:06:37 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Sun Jul 6 04:08:52 2008 Subject: [Ti] USB-2 and Firewire PCMCIA-cards? (was"Re: Ti PC slot") In-Reply-To: References: <469728.76445.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080706110637.2027633467@mail.messagingengine.com> What about USB 2.0 / Firewire cards? Any suggestions? I need an additional FW-port to interface my external hard discs when the built-in is used by a firewire soundcard. From time to time I also need USB-2 ports in addition to the 2 built-in USB 1.1 ports. Mikael Technoids: PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB From markymac99 at mac.com Sun Jul 6 07:16:10 2008 From: markymac99 at mac.com (Marcus Benjamin) Date: Sun Jul 6 07:16:49 2008 Subject: [Ti] USB-2 and Firewire PCMCIA-cards? (was"Re: Ti PC slot") In-Reply-To: <20080706110637.2027633467@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <469728.76445.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20080706110637.2027633467@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <19264B24-E33C-4263-98EC-39259A47C8FD@mac.com> OWC is the FIRST place I go to look for accessories for any Mac or even PC I own. Here is a link for firewire & USB PCMCIA card adapters from them. http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/Search.cfm?Ntk=Primary&Ns=P_Popularity%7c1&Ne=5000&N=7057&Ntt=pcmcia Enjoy. Marcus On Jul 6, 2008, at 6:06 AM, MB wrote: > What about USB 2.0 / Firewire cards? Any suggestions? I need an > additional FW-port to interface my external hard discs when the > built-in > is used by a firewire soundcard. From time to time I also need USB-2 > ports in addition to the 2 built-in USB 1.1 ports. > > > > > > > Mikael > > Technoids: > PM 5.6.3 build 4504 sv / SpamSieve 2.6.6 sv | OS X 10.4.8 | Powerbook > G4/400 | 1GB / 80GB > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080706/3f4e2a64/attachment.html From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Sun Jul 6 15:23:38 2008 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Sun Jul 6 15:23:51 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: >> It's a slot loading drive that's not ejecting, so it could well be >> misaligned if I recall correctly, so reseating it may well resolve >> your issue. > > Hum, it *is* ejecting actually. It doesn't always spin up and read the > disc, that's the problem. It also burns CD's as well as DVD's > successfully and have no problem spinning up then, including reading > the > disc when it has been burnt. Also the discs go in and out with no > noticable problems. When it does read the disc there are seldom any > problems. > > I'm wondering if the discs internally occasionally get positioned at > an > askew angle and that's the reason it doesn't spin up porperly. Or > maybe > the drive is dying on me. It's not very old and I'm not sure about the > warranty. Any Titanium would be getting on now - they were discontinued about 5 years ago. Is there any pattern to the discs it won't read ? Old burnt ones, any burnt ones or maybe only reads ones burnt on it ? Sounds like the drive is flakey tbh. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From digital.discuss at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 01:32:26 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Mon Jul 7 01:42:10 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20080707083226.370929773@mail.messagingengine.com> Malcolm Cornelius said: >Any Titanium would be getting on now - they were discontinued about 5 >years ago. The drive itself is only two years old or so. No titaniums came with the Matshita UJ-845s AFAIK. It can burn Dual Layer DVD, something I think only the 1.0 Ghz model could do. Though it had another drive I'm pretty sure. >Is there any pattern to the discs it won't read ? Old burnt ones, any >burnt ones or maybe only reads ones burnt on it ? There's no patterns like that. It will read all discs finally, if it does spin up. Which gives me some hope at least. From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Mon Jul 7 01:45:14 2008 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Mon Jul 7 01:45:25 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: <20080707083226.370929773@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080707083226.370929773@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <3CAA6C40-4C62-43BE-9873-FEE77EA6A064@fireflyuk.net> >> Any Titanium would be getting on now - they were discontinued about 5 >> years ago. > The drive itself is only two years old or so. No titaniums came with > the > Matshita UJ-845s AFAIK. It can burn Dual Layer DVD, something I think > only the 1.0 Ghz model could do. Though it had another drive I'm > pretty sure. DL burning didn't come until the last revision of the ALs IIRC. >> Is there any pattern to the discs it won't read ? Old burnt ones, >> any >> burnt ones or maybe only reads ones burnt on it ? > There's no patterns like that. It will read all discs finally, if it > does spin up. Which gives me some hope at least. Given the cost of drives now, I'd save the hassle and worry and just replace it. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From digital.discuss at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 01:59:21 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Mon Jul 7 02:03:27 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: <3CAA6C40-4C62-43BE-9873-FEE77EA6A064@fireflyuk.net> References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080707083226.370929773@mail.messagingengine.com> <3CAA6C40-4C62-43BE-9873-FEE77EA6A064@fireflyuk.net> Message-ID: <20080707085921.1999763371@mail.messagingengine.com> Malcolm Cornelius said: >DL burning didn't come until the last revision of the ALs IIRC. The 1.0 Ghz had a superdrive, didn't it? Isn't that D/L? What to expect from a machine have really been rising since the titaniums were new, haven't it? >>> Is there any pattern to the discs it won't read ? Old burnt ones, >>> any >>> burnt ones or maybe only reads ones burnt on it ? >> There's no patterns like that. It will read all discs finally, if it >> does spin up. Which gives me some hope at least. > >Given the cost of drives now, I'd save the hassle and worry and just >replace it. Which I might have to do at some point, but there's no cash for that during the summer for me, as it is a downperiod business-wise. I do have a fallback drive for reading discs, so when I've done some backups burning with the drive, I'll replace with that for the time being. Any suggestion on what drive to replace with? I'd prefer a Pioneer mechanism, but I'm not sure which drives have that. From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Mon Jul 7 02:42:35 2008 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Mon Jul 7 02:42:46 2008 Subject: [Ti] drive Matshita UJ-845s not spinning up disc occasionally In-Reply-To: <20080707085921.1999763371@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <20080625080456.1890192956@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080630120144.1711397254@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080705103406.975900455@mail.messagingengine.com> <20080707083226.370929773@mail.messagingengine.com> <3CAA6C40-4C62-43BE-9873-FEE77EA6A064@fireflyuk.net> <20080707085921.1999763371@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: >> DL burning didn't come until the last revision of the ALs IIRC. >> > The 1.0 Ghz had a superdrive, didn't it? Isn't that D/L? What to > expect > from a machine have really been rising since the titaniums were new, > haven't it? Early super drives were single layer not dual layer - SD is a term that just describes a DC and DVD writer. >>>> Is there any pattern to the discs it won't read ? Old burnt ones, >>>> any >>>> burnt ones or maybe only reads ones burnt on it ? >>> There's no patterns like that. It will read all discs finally, if it >>> does spin up. Which gives me some hope at least. >> >> Given the cost of drives now, I'd save the hassle and worry and just >> replace it. > > Which I might have to do at some point, but there's no cash for that > during the summer for me, as it is a downperiod business-wise. I do > have > a fallback drive for reading discs, so when I've done some backups > burning with the drive, I'll replace with that for the time being. > > Any suggestion on what drive to replace with? I'd prefer a Pioneer > mechanism, but I'm not sure which drives have that. I tend to stick with drives that Apple have supplied to ensure support within the OS. Dunno what prices are like where you are but in UK where prices are probably 50% more than US, Dual Layer Super Drives are around ?30 brand new. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From don40 at bigpond.com Wed Jul 9 01:39:54 2008 From: don40 at bigpond.com (Don Williams) Date: Wed Jul 9 01:42:51 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all Message-ID: <09BB046D-EE5C-403C-9CFE-C2634EC8EA3F@bigpond.com> I have recently"inherited" a Ti PB from one of my sons. It had a clean install of Tiger and updated to 10.4.11. As I have a single OS 9 application that I would like to run, I was keen to use the PB for that purpose as there is no way of doing so on my Intel iMac. However, the PB refuses to boot from an OS 9 install disk, and just flashes the folder and question mark at me. I can copy the OS 9 System Folder to the PB and select it for Classic, but after starting I get a message saying that it can only run on the original media and not when copied to another drive. I'm new to the list and I did find an archived thread dealing with a similar issue, but the solution posted there did not make any difference. It required using TinkerTool to see invisible files so the system folder is visible, but it was anyway. Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. Don Williams Albany, Western Australia From digital.discuss at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 03:48:36 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Wed Jul 9 03:52:48 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <09BB046D-EE5C-403C-9CFE-C2634EC8EA3F@bigpond.com> References: <09BB046D-EE5C-403C-9CFE-C2634EC8EA3F@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20080709104836.332788928@mail.messagingengine.com> Don Williams sa s?h?r: >However, the PB refuses to boot from an OS 9 install disk, and just >flashes the folder and question mark at me. Does the drive have OS 9 drivers? If not get Pacifist to install the OS 9 drivers from the OS X disc or if you reformat from the beginning. What version of OS 9 is on the OS 9 disc? Your model demands 9.2.2 I think or at least that's the version that was preinstalled. It won't most likely boot from earlier OS 9 versions. Are you sure the disc was really choosed to boot from? Sometimes you have to choose the boot system in System Preferences: startup disc in order to get it to work. >I can copy the OS 9 >System Folder to the PB and select it for Classic, but after starting >I get a message saying that it can only run on the original media and >not when copied to another drive. Right. That's to be expected. That OS 9 version is for the OS 9 disc only. From dermdoch at earthlink.net Wed Jul 9 16:33:22 2008 From: dermdoch at earthlink.net (James Herndon) Date: Wed Jul 9 16:33:53 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all Message-ID: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> Don, My understanding is that Apple changed the rom architecture of the Titanium PowerBooks G4 sold after approximately January 10, 2003 so that users could no longer boot into OS 9. The approaching change was communicated to the user community at the time so that those who wanted the use of OS 9 could purchase an eligible unit. I purchased the 1 GHz version (MacTracker calls these the P88 model) and found it a remarkably fleet and stable machine, one which I maintain alongside my faster but less stable MacBook Pro 4,1. Jim Herndon From don40 at bigpond.com Wed Jul 9 21:06:58 2008 From: don40 at bigpond.com (Don Williams) Date: Wed Jul 9 21:07:21 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> Thanks Jim Mine turns out to be an 800 MHz model, but I have no idea when it was manufactured as my son bought it second-hand. As it won't boot from an OS 9 disk I guess it must be one of those that you mention (after Jan 10, 2003). In a rather Catch 22 situation, I have a retail OS 9.0.4 and the Tiger accepts its copied system folder for Classic but then says I need at least 9.1. But if I have no way of running OS 9 I can't update it. So it looks like there is no solution, but luckily the application I would like to run (Music Mouse) is not in any way vital. Don Williams On 10/07/2008, at 7:33 AM, James Herndon wrote: > Don, > > My understanding is that Apple changed the rom architecture of the > Titanium PowerBooks G4 sold after approximately January 10, 2003 so > that users could no longer boot into OS 9. The approaching change > was communicated to the user community at the time so that those who > wanted the use of OS 9 could purchase an eligible unit. I purchased > the 1 GHz version (MacTracker calls these the P88 model) and found > it a remarkably fleet and stable machine, one which I maintain > alongside my faster but less stable MacBook Pro 4,1. > > Jim Herndon > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From karenlindner at mac.com Wed Jul 9 21:52:20 2008 From: karenlindner at mac.com (Karen Lindner) Date: Wed Jul 9 21:52:55 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <9BBDD4A6-EAA4-449B-A58D-DC7E4DA22DC2@mac.com> If you can find a copy of a system folder for 9.1, you can drag it onto your Ti, log out, log in and use the OS 9.1 system. It might work if the drivers are included. The problem is that the drivers and the system need to be installed before you install a version of OS X to make it work. On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Don Williams wrote: > Mine turns out to be an 800 MHz model, but I have no idea when it > was manufactured as my son bought it second-hand. As it won't boot > from an OS 9 disk I guess it must be one of those that you mention > (after Jan 10, 2003). > > In a rather Catch 22 situation, I have a retail OS 9.0.4 and the > Tiger accepts its copied system folder for Classic but then says I > need at least 9.1. But if I have no way of running OS 9 I can't > update it. So it looks like there is no solution, but luckily the > application I would like to run (Music Mouse) is not in any way vital. From don40 at bigpond.com Wed Jul 9 22:13:52 2008 From: don40 at bigpond.com (Don Williams) Date: Wed Jul 9 22:14:55 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <9BBDD4A6-EAA4-449B-A58D-DC7E4DA22DC2@mac.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <9BBDD4A6-EAA4-449B-A58D-DC7E4DA22DC2@mac.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately that is another Catch 22. I've got Tiger installed but I'd be happy to erase the HD (it's backed up externally) and do a clean install of OS 9. However, I can't do that as the PB will not boot from an OS 9 CD-ROM. But thanks for the information. Don On 10/07/2008, at 12:52 PM, Karen Lindner wrote: > If you can find a copy of a system folder for 9.1, you can drag it > onto your Ti, log out, log in and use the OS 9.1 system. It might > work if the drivers are included. > > The problem is that the drivers and the system need to be installed > before you install a version of OS X to make it work. > > On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Don Williams wrote: > >> Mine turns out to be an 800 MHz model, but I have no idea when it >> was manufactured as my son bought it second-hand. As it won't boot >> from an OS 9 disk I guess it must be one of those that you mention >> (after Jan 10, 2003). >> >> In a rather Catch 22 situation, I have a retail OS 9.0.4 and the >> Tiger accepts its copied system folder for Classic but then says I >> need at least 9.1. But if I have no way of running OS 9 I can't >> update it. So it looks like there is no solution, but luckily the >> application I would like to run (Music Mouse) is not in any way >> vital. > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From digital.discuss at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 02:11:03 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Thu Jul 10 02:11:27 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20080710091103.2103435902@mail.messagingengine.com> James Herndon said: >My understanding is that Apple changed the rom architecture of the >Titanium PowerBooks G4 sold after approximately January 10, 2003 so >that users could no longer boot into OS 9. This is just wrong. All Titaniums can be made to boot into OS 9 with an off the shelves OS 9 system disc, i e an OS 9 disc purchased separately, as the latter of the titaniums weren't delivered with such a disc. The 867 Mhz model most likely need a 9.2.2 disc. At least I wouldn't expect it to boot on a 9.1 disc. The OS 9 discs that came with the latter Titanium systems are system restore images and you'll need a Tiger updated version of the installation software in order to install those as the discs themselves contain the10.2 versions. Available from apple support. For simplicity though and the need of a minimal classic system, I'd prefer a proper OS 9 installation disc. From don40 at bigpond.com Thu Jul 10 02:32:42 2008 From: don40 at bigpond.com (Don Williams) Date: Thu Jul 10 02:33:13 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <20080710091103.2103435902@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <20080710091103.2103435902@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: This is encouraging, but according to our local AppleCentre store, Apple can no longer supply OS 9 installation disks. In the hope they are wrong, I'll contact Apple Australia direct tomorrow and see if I have any luck. Incidentally, I discovered mine is an 800 MHz model, not 867 MHz as I thought. Don On 10/07/2008, at 5:11 PM, MB wrote: > James Herndon said: > >> My understanding is that Apple changed the rom architecture of the >> Titanium PowerBooks G4 sold after approximately January 10, 2003 so >> that users could no longer boot into OS 9. > > This is just wrong. All Titaniums can be made to boot into OS 9 with > an > off the shelves OS 9 system disc, i e an OS 9 disc purchased > separately, > as the latter of the titaniums weren't delivered with such a disc. The > 867 Mhz model most likely need a 9.2.2 disc. At least I wouldn't > expect > it to boot on a 9.1 disc. > > The OS 9 discs that came with the latter Titanium systems are system > restore images and you'll need a Tiger updated version of the > installation software in order to install those as the discs > themselves > contain the10.2 versions. Available from apple support. > > For simplicity though and the need of a minimal classic system, I'd > prefer a proper OS 9 installation disc. > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From digital.discuss at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 05:12:45 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Thu Jul 10 05:14:00 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <20080710091103.2103435902@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20080710121245.212312053@mail.messagingengine.com> Don Williams said: >This is encouraging, but according to our local AppleCentre store, >Apple can no longer supply OS 9 installation disks. In the hope they >are wrong, I'll contact Apple Australia direct tomorrow and see if I >have any luck. You could purchase a disc from ebay or even download a torrent with a suitable version. I'm not sure if owning one set of OS 9 disc (the software restore discs) entitles you to using other OS 9 installation, but I think the real problem is zero. Apple Europe themselves have given me "pirated" OS 9 versions twice in the past. So I wouldn't worry about that here, myself. If you own one OS 9 per machine you own it period in my book. >Incidentally, I discovered mine is an 800 MHz model, not 867 MHz as I >thought. That model also had 9.2.2 preinstalled, I think. From ncicchek at optonline.net Thu Jul 10 06:11:33 2008 From: ncicchek at optonline.net (John McGibney) Date: Thu Jul 10 06:11:41 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <20080710091103.2103435902@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <20080710091103.2103435902@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <3C943463-F6E9-48D7-9D13-141A3C7494E4@optonline.net> On Jul 10, 2008, at 5:11 AM, MB wrote: > James Herndon said: > >> My understanding is that Apple changed the rom architecture of the >> Titanium PowerBooks G4 sold after approximately January 10, 2003 so >> that users could no longer boot into OS 9. > > This is just wrong. All Titaniums can be made to boot into OS 9 > with an > off the shelves OS 9 system disc, i e an OS 9 disc purchased > separately, > as the latter of the titaniums weren't delivered with such a disc. The > 867 Mhz model most likely need a 9.2.2 disc. At least I wouldn't > expect > it to boot on a 9.1 disc. > > The OS 9 discs that came with the latter Titanium systems are system > restore images and you'll need a Tiger updated version of the > installation software in order to install those as the discs > themselves > contain the10.2 versions. Available from apple support. > > For simplicity though and the need of a minimal classic system, I'd > prefer a proper OS 9 installation disc. > Do you have a CD with OS 9.1 or later on it, like TechTool Pro Or other diagnostic CD? Copy the 9.1, 9.2 installers to your HD. Select the CD as your "classic" system. Launch OS9 and install the updates to your OS 9 System Folder on your HD. Then you should be good to go. John -- If If Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him? From maccare at gwi.net Thu Jul 10 07:35:00 2008 From: maccare at gwi.net (Ralph LEWIS) Date: Thu Jul 10 07:36:05 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <20080710091103.2103435902@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: If you have a friend with a computer that has the OS9.2.2 System folder on it, Hook up in target mode and move it to your computer. Tiger will then see it and give you the option to use it for classic. On Jul 10, 2008, at 5:32 AM, Don Williams wrote: > This is encouraging, but according to our local AppleCentre store, > Apple can no longer supply OS 9 installation disks. In the hope they > are wrong, I'll contact Apple Australia direct tomorrow and see if I > have any luck. > > Incidentally, I discovered mine is an 800 MHz model, not 867 MHz as > I thought. > > Don > > On 10/07/2008, at 5:11 PM, MB wrote: > >> James Herndon said: >> >>> My understanding is that Apple changed the rom architecture of the >>> Titanium PowerBooks G4 sold after approximately January 10, 2003 so >>> that users could no longer boot into OS 9. >> >> This is just wrong. All Titaniums can be made to boot into OS 9 >> with an >> off the shelves OS 9 system disc, i e an OS 9 disc purchased >> separately, >> as the latter of the titaniums weren't delivered with such a disc. >> The >> 867 Mhz model most likely need a 9.2.2 disc. At least I wouldn't >> expect >> it to boot on a 9.1 disc. >> >> The OS 9 discs that came with the latter Titanium systems are system >> restore images and you'll need a Tiger updated version of the >> installation software in order to install those as the discs >> themselves >> contain the10.2 versions. Available from apple support. >> >> For simplicity though and the need of a minimal classic system, I'd >> prefer a proper OS 9 installation disc. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Titanium mailing list >> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > Life isn't about what happens to you, it's about how you handle what happens. Ralph LEWIS maccare@gwi.net From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Fri Jul 11 02:02:48 2008 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Fri Jul 11 02:03:04 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> Message-ID: On 10 Jul 2008, at 05:06, Don Williams wrote: > Thanks Jim > > Mine turns out to be an 800 MHz model, but I have no idea when it > was manufactured as my son bought it second-hand. As it won't boot > from an OS 9 disk I guess it must be one of those that you mention > (after Jan 10, 2003). The 800s shipped with 9.2.2 and probably require it. ALL Tis run OS 9. -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From don40 at bigpond.com Sat Jul 12 02:21:25 2008 From: don40 at bigpond.com (Don Williams) Date: Sat Jul 12 02:21:49 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> Thanks to all those who have offered help with this problem. I have been offline for some 32 hours due to an extensive power failure caused by a wild storm. Here is the current situation: The PB will not boot from an OS 9.0.4 retail disk - just gives the flashing ?. Also will not boot from an OS 9.2.2 disk identified as a Power Mac G4 install - same result. I managed to find my old iMac software install and software restore disks, both of which have OS 9.1. The PB did get about 15% into a startup from the CD-ROM (and I thought I had it licked) then stopped with a system error type 11. So I tried again with the shift key down (no extensions) with the same result. This happens with both disks. That iMac i gave to one of my other sons, who lives about 400 km away so I can't just pop over and try the disks in that -- although it won't help with the PB anyway. When I copied that iMac disk system folder to the PB and started Classic from it, an initial message said it was 9.1 and 9.2 is recommended. But it let me continue and then gave me the message that the system can only run on the original media and not when copied. That same message appears also if I copy the system folder from the OS 9.0.4 and OS 9.2.2 disks. So although I should be able to just copy a system folder, it does not work on this PB. So I seem to have reached a dead end on this one. Even if I did get to the original iMac and used it to update 9.1 to 9.2, then copied the system folder to try on the PB, the experience so far suggests it won't work. Sigh ... Don From fred at mindstate.com Sat Jul 12 07:58:08 2008 From: fred at mindstate.com (Fred) Date: Sat Jul 12 08:22:22 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> Message-ID: > From: Don Williams > Subject: Re: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all > So I seem to have reached a dead end on this one. Even if I did get to > the original iMac and used it to update 9.1 to 9.2, then copied the > system folder to try on the PB, the experience so far suggests it > won't work. What you need is a factory 9.2.2 full install disk. Some disks that are for other macs will not work on other different macs as they are proprietary. I factory install disk for a powermac G4 tower may not work for a powerbook, etc. Someone has already mentioned looking for one on ebay, craigslist, etc. your 9.0.4 will not work on your machine. Do you know someone with another Ti powerbook that has OS 9 installed on it? Best bet is to find a factory 9.2.2 disk, the regular OS 9 install disk, not one for a different mac, or the original install disks for your Ti from someone and use those. It will work. All Ti books will run OS9. It is when they switched to the AL G4 books that it would not longer run OS9 except in classic. Hope this helps. Cheers Fred From don40 at bigpond.com Sat Jul 12 18:40:30 2008 From: don40 at bigpond.com (Don Williams) Date: Sat Jul 12 18:40:53 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <371BD09E-7702-4B91-91FE-588EEC15F889@bigpond.com> I think one solution may be to use SheepShaver as I can extract the required ROM file from my 9.0.4 install disk. Although it will be quite slow, that may be enough for what I need, and if necessary I can run Classic on my intel iMac with SheepShaver as well -- which would be a bit faster. Cheers Don From jmsparks1 at verizon.net Mon Jul 14 12:09:04 2008 From: jmsparks1 at verizon.net (John Sparks) Date: Mon Jul 14 12:09:37 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD-4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> Hi Guys: My G4 PB TI 15 Inch 867Ghz, came with a W/a Software Install & Restore Disk. It had OSX 10.2.3 & OS 9.2.2. The next upgrade did not include OS 9. I got it in 1998, the 11th month the DVD Rom failed, The Genus Bar replaced it and the OS X 10.3 was just released, which was installed by the G. Bar. They did not install OS 9, therefor no Classic, I returned it and they had to install OS 9 first then reinstall OS X 10.3. I am staying with OS X 10.4.11, because of my OS 9 Software. Hope this info helps. John On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:21 AM, Don Williams wrote: Thanks to all those who have offered help with this problem. I have been offline for some 32 hours due to an extensive power failure caused by a wild storm. Here is the current situation: The PB will not boot from an OS 9.0.4 retail disk - just gives the flashing ?. Also will not boot from an OS 9.2.2 disk identified as a Power Mac G4 install - same result. I managed to find my old iMac software install and software restore disks, both of which have OS 9.1. The PB did get about 15% into a startup from the CD-ROM (and I thought I had it licked) then stopped with a system error type 11. So I tried again with the shift key down (no extensions) with the same result. This happens with both disks. That iMac i gave to one of my other sons, who lives about 400 km away so I can't just pop over and try the disks in that -- although it won't help with the PB anyway. When I copied that iMac disk system folder to the PB and started Classic from it, an initial message said it was 9.1 and 9.2 is recommended. But it let me continue and then gave me the message that the system can only run on the original media and not when copied. That same message appears also if I copy the system folder from the OS 9.0.4 and OS 9.2.2 disks. So although I should be able to just copy a system folder, it does not work on this PB. So I seem to have reached a dead end on this one. Even if I did get to the original iMac and used it to update 9.1 to 9.2, then copied the system folder to try on the PB, the experience so far suggests it won't work. Sigh ... Don _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From digital.discuss at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 00:50:31 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Tue Jul 15 09:12:54 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD-4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD-4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> John Sparks said: >I am staying with OS X 10.4.11, because of my OS 9 Software. Huh? Your System Folder (OS 9) will still work in Leopard. What led you to believe it wouldn't? There's no need to erase the drive even if installing 10.5 from scratch. From corax at aol.com Tue Jul 15 09:30:41 2008 From: corax at aol.com (David Logan) Date: Tue Jul 15 12:25:35 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB hinges In-Reply-To: <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD-4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <8CAB4AF41BDC688-5BC-2469@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> hi. just managed to break the exstream left hinge. it actually opens easier now. was wondering if this is going to be a problem later on with the main hinge or the right side hinge. with more stress being put on these ?Good Morning and Be Well (copied) (\ /) This is Bunny. (o.o) Copy Bunny into your signature to help (> <) him on his way to world domination. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080715/fd0193e5/attachment.html From jmsparks1 at verizon.net Tue Jul 15 17:04:56 2008 From: jmsparks1 at verizon.net (John Sparks) Date: Tue Jul 15 17:05:39 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB 867 won't play with OS 9 at all In-Reply-To: <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD-4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:50 AM, MB wrote: John Sparks said: > I am staying with OS X 10.4.11, because of my OS 9 Software. Huh? Your System Folder (OS 9) will still work in Leopard. What led you to believe it wouldn't? There's no need to erase the drive even if installing 10.5 from scratch. Update, sorry I was misunderstood, My desk Mac is a Mac Pro. ( This was an Apple replacement a few months ago, because Apple could not repair my G4 Power Mac 800.) None of my OS X10.3 software will open on the Intel, it requires "Universal" software. My G4 PB runs my old software, also I've lost the use of all my SCSI Hardware. That is why I.m leaving Tiger on my PB. The sudden boost to Mac Pro & Leopard altho very economical to me caught me low on resources to upgrade & buy all the items to the level I was at. Regards John _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From digital.discuss at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 05:12:56 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Fri Jul 18 05:15:18 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB hinges In-Reply-To: <8CAB4AF41BDC688-5BC-2469@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB -E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD- 4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> <8CAB4AF41BDC688-5BC-2469@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20080718121256.611390866@mail.messagingengine.com> David Logan said: >just managed to break the exstream left hinge. it actually opens easier now. >was wondering if this is going to be a problem later on with the main >hinge or the right side hinge. with more stress being put on these Break means what exactly? I would expect one broken hinge puts mroe stresson the other, yes. From corax at aol.com Fri Jul 18 09:15:05 2008 From: corax at aol.com (David Logan) Date: Fri Jul 18 09:15:29 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB hinges In-Reply-To: <20080718121256.611390866@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB -E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD- 4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> <8CAB4AF41BDC688-5BC-2469@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> <20080718121256.611390866@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <8CAB70892D49412-133C-10B@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> snapped the monitor off the hinge piece. i had to shave down the broken pice on the now unmoving hinge to be able to close the laptop properly. thank you ?Good Morning and Be Well (copied) (\ /) This is Bunny. (o.o) Copy Bunny into your signature to help (> <) him on his way to world domination. -----Original Message----- From: MB To: A place to discuss Apple's Titanium computers. Sent: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 8:12 am Subject: Re: [Ti] Ti PB hinges David Logan said: >just managed to break the exstream left hinge. it actually opens easier now. >was wondering if this is going to be a problem later on with the main >hinge or the right side hinge. with more stress being put on these Break means what exactly? I would expect one broken hinge puts mroe stresson the other, yes. _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080718/e40c4974/attachment.html From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Sat Jul 19 03:18:06 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Sat Jul 19 03:18:26 2008 Subject: [Ti] MobileMe / iCards Message-ID: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> It is my friend's birthday today, so I went to send him an iCard, but I cannot find them........ Surely this feature of dot-Mac, actually of Apple, has not been discontinued, has it ? With no notice or communication? What is your experience / reaction? regards, Trevor From ddelmonte at mac.com Sat Jul 19 03:41:17 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Sat Jul 19 03:41:33 2008 Subject: [Ti] MobileMe / iCards In-Reply-To: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> References: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> Message-ID: <99767DA3-FD80-4B34-B006-DB18515C9C00@mac.com> Hi Trevor. Unfortunately, Apple discontinued iCards with the move to MobileMe. David On Jul 19, 2008, at 6:18 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: It is my friend's birthday today, so I went to send him an iCard, but I cannot find them........ Surely this feature of dot-Mac, actually of Apple, has not been discontinued, has it ? With no notice or communication? What is your experience / reaction? regards, Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From alex at fotomotion.net Sat Jul 19 03:59:02 2008 From: alex at fotomotion.net (Alex) Date: Sat Jul 19 03:59:58 2008 Subject: [Ti] MobileMe / iCards In-Reply-To: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> References: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> Message-ID: Hi Trevor Although the iCards are discontinued the HTML templates in mail do in some way make up for that. Alex On 19 Jul 2008, at 11:18, "Dr. Trevor J. Hutley" wrote: > > It is my friend's birthday today, so I went to send him an iCard, > but I cannot find them........ > > Surely this feature of dot-Mac, actually of Apple, has not been > discontinued, has it ? > > With no notice or communication? > > What is your experience / reaction? > > regards, Trevor > > > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From fred at mindstate.com Sat Jul 19 06:29:45 2008 From: fred at mindstate.com (Fred) Date: Sat Jul 19 06:38:26 2008 Subject: [Ti] MobileMe / iCards In-Reply-To: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> Message-ID: > From: "Trevor J. Hutley" > It is my friend's birthday today, so I went to send him an iCard, but > I cannot find them........ > > Surely this feature of dot-Mac, actually of Apple, has not been > discontinued, has it ? > > With no notice or communication? > > What is your experience / reaction? > Yep, they are discontinued. Apple sent out a final card to all .mac users as a final goodbye to the service and posted it on their website. There have been stories on various apple related sites about it, referencing the final card, etc. It was a nice service, I enjoyed using it from to time. From dfz at mac.com Sat Jul 19 08:54:07 2008 From: dfz at mac.com (Dennis Fazio) Date: Sat Jul 19 08:54:21 2008 Subject: [Ti] Ti PB hinges In-Reply-To: <8CAB4AF41BDC688-5BC-2469@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> References: <8DFF5CB8-39B6-4979-8AE0-315FEF6765AD@earthlink.net> <9D7FF24C-59BA-40DE-91BB-E97914D55E04@bigpond.com> <2817EC0D-C62F-4902-BF68-D2E1E56398F7@bigpond.com> <64658DFE-EE41-45CB-81DD-4327D4A5E11D@verizon.net> <20080715075031.1297555567@mail.messagingengine.com> <8CAB4AF41BDC688-5BC-2469@FWM-M11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <7D3D4D1D-99E5-44A7-9E8B-70525AE8BEF2@mac.com> On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:30 AM, David Logan wrote: > just managed to break the exstream left hinge. it actually opens > easier now. > was wondering if this is going to be a problem later on with the > main hinge or the right side hinge. with more stress being put on > these > Is the display still attached at the left end or is it swinging free? If swinging free, repeated open/closes will eventually stress the right hinge and probably damage it. Plus, there are wires in the hinge that will get damaged. If the display is still attached to the laptop body somehow but no longer providing friction hold, It should last a while. On mine, the hinge pin is broke, (broke while I was trying to loosen it.) but the display is still attached. It opens a lot easier, but there's still enough friction in the right hinge to hold the display open. You'll probably want to limit the number of openings and closings if possible. -- Dennis Fazio dfz@mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080719/53147667/attachment.html From tlmiller at mac.com Sat Jul 19 11:07:35 2008 From: tlmiller at mac.com (T.L. Miller) Date: Sat Jul 19 11:08:20 2008 Subject: [Ti] MobileMe / iCards In-Reply-To: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> References: <97B3D180-E154-47A1-B4D3-32BAE75FFCDA@consultant.com> Message-ID: <20080719180735.733457271@smtp.mac.com> On 7/19/08, at 11:18 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley TrevorHutley@consultant.com said: >It is my friend's birthday today, so I went to send him an iCard, but >I cannot find them........ They are no longer available, altho I read where Apple may bring them back if they get enough requests. >Surely this feature of dot-Mac, actually of Apple, has not been >discontinued, has it ? > >With no notice or communication? Supposedly, we were told. Tom Miller .................................................. "The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side." R.O.Clark ................................................... From rweaver at igc.org Sun Jul 20 12:17:45 2008 From: rweaver at igc.org (Read Weaver) Date: Sun Jul 20 12:17:59 2008 Subject: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? Message-ID: <08763101-77AB-422F-9082-739478557CA8@igc.org> Anyone know if the optical drive on a TiBook would play PAL (i.e., non-US format) DVDs? Or know of a way to figure it out without a PAL disk at hand? From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Sun Jul 20 13:43:00 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Sun Jul 20 13:43:43 2008 Subject: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? In-Reply-To: <08763101-77AB-422F-9082-739478557CA8@igc.org> References: <08763101-77AB-422F-9082-739478557CA8@igc.org> Message-ID: <1B01A997-7121-45A8-A1EC-907CEDE53CD4@consultant.com> On 20 Jul 2008, at 20:17, Read Weaver wrote: > Anyone know if the optical drive on a TiBook would play PAL (i.e., > non-US format) DVDs? Or know of a way to figure it out without a PAL > disk at hand? My Ti-500 was stolen in 2003, so I am working from memory: it was a US- origin (MacMall) Ti-book, I was living in Geneva at the time, and it used to play DVD / VCD from every region of the world. I had to 'upgrade' the firmware to make it region-free. T. From fred at mindstate.com Sun Jul 20 15:10:22 2008 From: fred at mindstate.com (Fred) Date: Sun Jul 20 15:10:31 2008 Subject: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? In-Reply-To: <1B01A997-7121-45A8-A1EC-907CEDE53CD4@consultant.com> Message-ID: > From: "Trevor J. Hutley" > Subject: Re: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? > On 20 Jul 2008, at 20:17, Read Weaver wrote: > >> Anyone know if the optical drive on a TiBook would play PAL (i.e., >> non-US format) DVDs? Or know of a way to figure it out without a PAL >> disk at hand? > > My Ti-500 was stolen in 2003, so I am working from memory: it was a US- > origin (MacMall) Ti-book, I was living in Geneva at the time, and it > used to play DVD / VCD from every region of the world. > I had to 'upgrade' the firmware to make it region-free. Use VLC and you do not need to flash your drive to region free. Otherwise you can only change regions 5 times until it is locked on one region only, unless you flash it. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html Cheers Fred From dermdoch at earthlink.net Sun Jul 20 15:20:15 2008 From: dermdoch at earthlink.net (James Herndon) Date: Sun Jul 20 15:21:03 2008 Subject: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? In-Reply-To: <1B01A997-7121-45A8-A1EC-907CEDE53CD4@consultant.com> References: <08763101-77AB-422F-9082-739478557CA8@igc.org> <1B01A997-7121-45A8-A1EC-907CEDE53CD4@consultant.com> Message-ID: Read, Trevor's memory was accurate. In 2004 a member of this group provided a web address (http://superdrive.cynikal.net/) from which the user could download patches able to update the firmware in UJ-815 and UJ-816 superdrives released before April 2004. The instructions were somewhat elaborate but the superdrives were rendered region-free. PAL format was not specifically mentioned, but apparently those disks played also. Jim Herndon On Sunday, July 20, 20083:43 PM, at 3:43 PM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: On 20 Jul 2008, at 20:17, Read Weaver wrote: > Anyone know if the optical drive on a TiBook would play PAL (i.e., > non-US format) DVDs? Or know of a way to figure it out without a PAL > disk at hand? My Ti-500 was stolen in 2003, so I am working from memory: it was a US- origin (MacMall) Ti-book, I was living in Geneva at the time, and it used to play DVD / VCD from every region of the world. I had to 'upgrade' the firmware to make it region-free. 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Put a lawyer out of business. From jferg777 at mindspring.com Sun Jul 20 16:39:29 2008 From: jferg777 at mindspring.com (Jim Fergus) Date: Sun Jul 20 16:42:29 2008 Subject: [Ti] list removal Message-ID: <380-220087020233929578@mindspring.com> Please remove me from the list. jferg777@mindspring.com thanks, Jim F. Jim Fergus jferg777@mindspring.com EarthLink Revolves Around You. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080720/eec0d641/attachment.html From fred at mindstate.com Sun Jul 20 18:19:33 2008 From: fred at mindstate.com (Fred) Date: Sun Jul 20 18:20:15 2008 Subject: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: James Herndon > Subject: Re: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? > > Read, > > Trevor's memory was accurate. In 2004 a member of this group provided > a web address (http://superdrive.cynikal.net/) from which the user > could download patches able to update the firmware in UJ-815 and > UJ-816 superdrives released before April 2004. The instructions were > somewhat elaborate but the superdrives were rendered region-free. PAL > format was not specifically mentioned, but apparently those disks > played also. > > Jim Herndon > On 20 Jul 2008, at 20:17, Read Weaver wrote: > >> Anyone know if the optical drive on a TiBook would play PAL (i.e., >> non-US format) DVDs? Or know of a way to figure it out without a PAL >> disk at hand? That was me :) And it is quite simple actually. Make sure your book is plugged. Download the proper file. Close all apps. Using system profiler make sure you have the right drive and file. Run the firmware update and just do what it says and viol?. Done. Region Free. Alot of the newer drives do not have any region free options as development stopped on this and with the app VIC there is no need to really have to do it anymore. Cheers Fred From rweaver at igc.org Sun Jul 20 18:27:04 2008 From: rweaver at igc.org (Read Weaver) Date: Sun Jul 20 18:27:46 2008 Subject: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? In-Reply-To: References: <08763101-77AB-422F-9082-739478557CA8@igc.org> <1B01A997-7121-45A8-A1EC-907CEDE53CD4@consultant.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately, my TiBook is older than that--it has the Combo Drive, not the Super Drive (Matshita CD-RW CW-8121). It sounds like VLC will work. (I've also seen that there's a firmware hack that should work, "AX21"--maybe I'll try that at some point.) I'd like to know even though I don't have any non-US DVDs at the moment, because I'm deciding whether to buy a cheaper non-US version of an out-of-print DVD, or the more expensive US version. On Jul 20, 2008, at 6:20 PM, James Herndon wrote: > Read, > > Trevor's memory was accurate. In 2004 a member of this group > provided a web address (http://superdrive.cynikal.net/) from which > the user could download patches able to update the firmware in > UJ-815 and UJ-816 superdrives released before April 2004. The > instructions were somewhat elaborate but the superdrives were > rendered region-free. PAL format was not specifically mentioned, > but apparently those disks played also. > > Jim Herndon > > On Sunday, July 20, 20083:43 PM, at 3:43 PM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley > wrote: > > > On 20 Jul 2008, at 20:17, Read Weaver wrote: > >> Anyone know if the optical drive on a TiBook would play PAL (i.e., >> non-US format) DVDs? Or know of a way to figure it out without a >> PAL disk at hand? > > My Ti-500 was stolen in 2003, so I am working from memory: it was a > US-origin (MacMall) Ti-book, I was living in Geneva at the time, > and it used to play DVD / VCD from every region of the world. > I had to 'upgrade' the firmware to make it region-free. > > T. > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From fred at mindstate.com Sun Jul 20 19:27:04 2008 From: fred at mindstate.com (Fred) Date: Sun Jul 20 19:27:12 2008 Subject: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Read Weaver > Subject: Re: [Ti] PAL on TiBook? > > Unfortunately, my TiBook is older than that--it has the Combo Drive, > not the Super Drive (Matshita CD-RW CW-8121). It sounds like VLC will > work. (I've also seen that there's a firmware hack that should work, > "AX21"--maybe I'll try that at some point.) > > I'd like to know even though I don't have any non-US DVDs at the > moment, because I'm deciding whether to buy a cheaper non-US version > of an out-of-print DVD, or the more expensive US version. This is the site that should answer all your questions..it was posted with the other one before on the list. One of the best sites on Region-Free DVD firmware and info. http://www.powerbook-fr.com/dossiers/dvd_region_free_en_article30.html You will find your AX21 there if you want. Use VLC and get the cheaper non-US version. Cheers Fred From itsmemandy77 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 11:40:26 2008 From: itsmemandy77 at yahoo.com (Mandy Stinson) Date: Mon Jul 21 11:40:40 2008 Subject: Fw: [Ti] list removal Message-ID: <913597.1017.qm@web53701.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Please remove me from the list. itsmemandy77@yahoo.com Mandy Stinson --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Jim Fergus wrote: From: Jim Fergus Subject: [Ti] list removal To: Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 7:39 PM Please remove me from the list. jferg777@mindspring.com thanks, Jim F. ? ? Jim Fergus jferg777@mindspring.com EarthLink Revolves Around You. ? _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080721/4fa1c7f8/attachment-0001.html From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Tue Jul 22 11:18:38 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Tue Jul 22 11:19:03 2008 Subject: [Ti] TimeCapsule & scanner Message-ID: <016D8B7D-B967-41DF-AB5C-D2C78FE22D85@consultant.com> Backing up my aluminium G4 Powerbook (running 10.5.4), wirelessly, using TimeMachine/TimeCapsule is great. Printing, wirelessly, from my Powerbook on the HP F380 all-in-one printer connected to (the USB port of) my TimeCapsule is great. BUT the scanning capability of the HP380 cannot be used in that way. I have to sit by the TimeCapsule, disconnect the printer, plug it in to the USB port of my Powerbook, and then launch the scanning software. So much for being wireless......! Is there any solution / workaround to this issue ? In other words, how can I scan documents wirelessly using my F380 connected to my TimeCapsule. regards, Trevor From malcolm at fireflyuk.net Tue Jul 22 15:10:07 2008 From: malcolm at fireflyuk.net (Malcolm Cornelius) Date: Tue Jul 22 15:10:17 2008 Subject: [Ti] TimeCapsule & scanner In-Reply-To: <016D8B7D-B967-41DF-AB5C-D2C78FE22D85@consultant.com> References: <016D8B7D-B967-41DF-AB5C-D2C78FE22D85@consultant.com> Message-ID: > BUT the scanning capability of the HP380 cannot be used in that way. > > I have to sit by the TimeCapsule, disconnect the printer, plug it in > to the USB port of my Powerbook, and then launch the scanning > software. > So much for being wireless......! > > Is there any solution / workaround to this issue ? I've never seen anything to suggest that this feature is available/ supported - is it ? -- Best wishes Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk From ncicchek at optonline.net Tue Jul 22 15:54:54 2008 From: ncicchek at optonline.net (John McGibney) Date: Tue Jul 22 15:55:12 2008 Subject: [Ti] TimeCapsule & scanner In-Reply-To: References: <016D8B7D-B967-41DF-AB5C-D2C78FE22D85@consultant.com> Message-ID: <05978C97-D3CF-4305-84E4-082F96292DD6@optonline.net> On Jul 22, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Malcolm Cornelius wrote: >> BUT the scanning capability of the HP380 cannot be used in that way. >> >> I have to sit by the TimeCapsule, disconnect the printer, plug it >> in to the USB port of my Powerbook, and then launch the scanning >> software. >> So much for being wireless......! >> >> Is there any solution / workaround to this issue ? > > I've never seen anything to suggest that this feature is available/ > supported - is it ? > > -- > Best wishes > > Malcolm Cornelius - The Powerbook Fanatic > http://www.pbfanatic.co.uk > I have an HP6180 all-in-one printer connected to my network via Airport. I can scan to other wireless computers but not to the ethernet connected ones. Maybe its a limitation of the scanner to connect to computers via its connection type only (usb, airport, ethernet). Or maybe the new HP printer software update for Leopard will help. John -- Define: De thing you get for breaking de law. From fred at mindstate.com Wed Jul 23 21:31:01 2008 From: fred at mindstate.com (Fred) Date: Sun Jul 27 10:20:49 2008 Subject: [Ti] TimeCapsule & scanner In-Reply-To: <016D8B7D-B967-41DF-AB5C-D2C78FE22D85@consultant.com> Message-ID: > From: "Trevor J. Hutley" > Subject: [Ti] TimeCapsule & scanner > > Backing up my aluminium G4 Powerbook (running 10.5.4), wirelessly, > using TimeMachine/TimeCapsule is great. > Printing, wirelessly, from my Powerbook on the HP F380 all-in-one > printer connected to (the USB port of) my TimeCapsule is great. > > BUT the scanning capability of the HP380 cannot be used in that way. Actually what I understand and I found this to be confirmed by HP, several functions like scanning, copying & faxing with multi-function printers or all-in-ones are not supported by the Time Capsule's USB port. Cheers Fred