On 12/14/02 4:43 PM, N8NOE at comcast.net typeth: > http://www.macupdate.com/ I have very little sympathy for a website that serves thousands and thousands of visitors a day while not having an actual backup of any of their data. By their own admission: "we are in a very bad position, as the MacUpdate site and database are not backed up outside of this drive. " Um... You mean your backup is on the same drive? How is that a backup? My personal data is far less important to far fewer people and my own HD is backed up religiously to several different HD's. Maybe they should have searched their own database for some nifty little utilities that will automate the backup process for them! Oh well, I prefer VersionTracker.com anyway.