Two major problems I was having were apparently fixed by the update to 10.2.5 and were NOT Firmware as I suggested. These problems were the loss of control of the LCD's brightness and the windows forgetting they were closed. Yay! No more rebooting! . . . -- Rachel Power Mac G4 Cube: The Naked Cube: http://www.Gnarlodious.com/Entities/Computer/Cube/Cube.html