I dont know about the worse engineering... The DCDC card and the Video bay of the cube are pretty horrible designs, electrically and thermally. Some of the SFF PC's are using heatpipes to move the heat from a full speed P4 to an 80mm radiator and fan, replace the genero fan with a Verax or Pabst, and there you go, quiet PC... Not to mention they also support full high CD drives, so any and all burners are available to you. Now of course the cube aesthetics arent there in the SFF's but they are darn close. All they need is a decent OS, maybe the next version of Linux might work there, or if MS can really deliver a new OS design instead of rehashing the Windows 95 interface over and over. Stability wise, MS is pretty close with Win 2000/3 , I run it on a work machine and it's as stable as OSX 10.2 on my Cube. I run games and watch mpegs/divx's, and some heavy CAD apps, so it's not like the machine loafs about like most home systems. Once again, Apple leads the pack in design, but gives up too quickly and lets them catch up. They had something with the Cube and Newton, but didnt stick with the plan. Lets hope their play into the entertainment field pans out and they can lead the market for music and video commerce over the net. Expect a move from Redmond, the money's too big for them to let Apple have this alone.