i know there are other resources for info on this, but i thought i'd ask this community first. i'm about to use my cube to host email for one of my domains, however when i go to mess around with the firewall in the gui in system prefs, it mentions that i can't even activate the firewall because some other firewall is already running. this seemed odd, so i go to my command line, and see that ifpw is running and configured. did something change in panther - ie the gui that controls the firewall now controls another firewall package? --alan