Agreed, Tom, I wouldn't run without the "fence", but only because I'd be concerned about the solder attempting to keep the cables stiff - solder is NOT a mechanical connection. The card wiggling loose sounds really bad - this happens in PCs all the time - but in the Cube case, that bracket gizmo at the back of the card should keep it from moving, shouldn't it? > From: Tom Davidson <TomD_ALG at robotgroup.org> > I think it's more dangerous to run without the fence.. > If the AGP card gets pulled out of it's slot in the slightest, and two > of the > traces on the connector bridge, you are looking at a 3.3V short circuit > which will blow your DCDC card, > and probably every other thing in the cube. > If you get lucky, maybe you only blow up the video card and the AGP riser. > > If it's too hot, put a fan on it. None of the desktop temperature > displays measure > video card temperature. If you dont have a remote thermocouple for > thermistor > temperature monitor, try running the cube for at least an hour on your > most graphic task, > ie 33D game or movie playback. Then shut the cube down and pull the > core, can you touch > the heatsink of the GPU for at least a few seconds without 3rd degree burns? > If not, it's too hot and needs a fan., or accept that it may only last > weeks - months > > How hot is the DCDC card? or the rest of the parts in that area? > Anything over 60-70C ( 155F) > is getting thing too hot for reliable operation.