On 2/14/03 11:05 AM, Kunga at FutureMedia.org added a note to the human symphony, when this was said: > The Apple OEM ATI Radeon 7500 runs without a > fan and will never die. Just out of curiosity, are you personally guaranteeing this as a fact and willing to accept full responsibility (personal and financial) for any card that does fail at any point in the future? Because I was taught you never say never. Never is a very long time. I'm 32 years old and have (hopefully) another 50+ years to go in my life, and I'm pretty certain a card or two will fail in my lifetime. Takes a brave (for lack of a better word) man to make such a bold prediction like that. Laurie -- AOL IM/iChat: cubeownernyc http://www.cubeowner.com Home of The Mac Cube FAQ!