thanks for reminding me! i forgot all about openup! i had been using it back in the 10.0.4 days, and when i went to 10.1, i wiped, and re-installed and it was gone. thanks. yeah, iphoto is just too nice. i had 100 free prints and used them all up. they came in about 3 days too. nice packaging co-branded by apple - "your pictures are here.." it was nice. i did in fact do the .mac thing for $49 - i thought it was a good idea. ibackup is sweet - it has the ability to span cd-rs for a large backup, and works very well. my wife just can't get into scp, so doing the publish thing works well for her... there are other reasons as well... oops, got off track. --alan On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 07:33 PM, John T. Folden wrote: > I've been using OpenUp