...hence Clark's reference to Frankenstein. :-) On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 05:09 PM, Richard Rodman wrote: > Peltier is a kind of reverse-thermocouple that takes like 5 amps at 1 > volt. I think a radiator is needed for the "hot side". I thought > piezo-electric was some kind of exotic high-frequency fan. > > On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 01:01 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > >> >> On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 11:09 AM, Richard Clark wrote: >> >>> processors get a lot hotter than beer. >> >> That was my point. >> >>> Bill i still have my peltier cooler that i took apart to make a >>> cooler for my pc but it was a no go because of the temps made by >>> processor you have to have a hell of a heatsink on the hot side or >>> combine it with water cooling >> >> I realize the T-E cooler is a heat pump that needs a radiator but I >> still don't see where a condensation problem comes in unless the T-E >> cooler is improperly engineered so it gets colder than ambient >> temperature on the cold side. Water and mercury in tubes also need a >> radiator, no? If the same amount of heat is to dissipated per unit >> time and the radiators are the same wouldn't they have to be the same >> size? >> >>> On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 16:57 Europe/Rome, Bill Fox wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe so in general but there is very little condensation to none >>>> in my beer cooler. I can't imagine that being a problem when >>>> properly engineered and applied on a hot CPU or GPU. But sucking a >>>> lot of juice could be a problem for a Cube. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 10:36 AM, Richard Clark wrote: >>>> >>>>> peltier effect coolers have one but there is always problems with >>>>> condensation and they drink a lot of juice. >>>>> On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 16:31 Europe/Rome, Bill Fox wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No Frankenstein--I've seen them (called thermo-electric) coolers >>>>>> at Frys. My 6-pack beer cooler, also piezo-electric, works great. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 08:34 AM, Richard Clark wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hmmmm ionized air gap sparks bill cool reminds me of >>>>>>> frankenstein. >>>>>>> On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 14:32 Europe/Rome, Bill Fox wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 07:40 PM, phoenix wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but... has anyone out there decided against both convection and >>>>>>>>> fan-force, and hooked up some kind of liquid cooling on the >>>>>>>>> Cube? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've seen enough car audio systems do this to displace >>>>>>>>> heat, so I >>>>>>>>> thought I'd ask. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ..or piezo-electric? >>