Which Apple OEM Radeon? It needs a number. No number means the first 32MB model that is pretty slow and not TwinView. The retail version won't fit in the Cube. You certainly don't need a fan for that GPU. I'll sell you a fanless Apple OEM Radeon 7500 if you want the fastest fanless with TwinView capability. Kunga On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 03:52 AM, Richard Clark wrote: >> Hi guys! >> >> Just wondering ... Went on Ebay this morning and i saw these two >> items: >> >> - 2086281986 ATI Radeon Mac Edition 32Mb DDR Retail Card: $ 69 (no >> bids) >> - 2085414306 ATI Radeon 32Mb ACD (OEM ?): currently for $ 169.99 (1 >> bid) >> >> I want to understand the differences between the two. >> >> As far as i understand here they are: >> >> - The $69 one does not have ADC some this is probably the main reason >> why there is a $100 gap between this one and the other one. People >> with a Cube wants to use Mac ADC Flat Panel displays. Is this right ? >> Is that the reason ? > I think that is the reason >> >> - The $169 one is fanless (which not everyone agrees it is an >> advantage right ?). More silent for sure, but .. coller than the fan >> equipped $69 one ? Is this the another advantage up to you ? > with fan runs cooler, cooler electronics happier electronics but > unless your not playing heavy games and watching lots of dvd's i think > maybe the one without the fan might work fine at least those are > reports by other list members i would personally put a fan in mine if > it didn't have one Cube parts are expensive and hard to come by. >> >> Let's say i want to hook a DVI-I flat panel (not Apple so no ADC) .. >> will the $69 one perform in my Cube AS WELL as the the other one (i >> mean performances etc.). Do they have the same capabilities ? > > Not sure i think they are the same if i needed to use a DVI flat panel > there is no reason to get or use an ADC card because then you would > need to convert adc to DVI which is more money spent for nothing. The > advantage of ADC is that it brought power and usb to the monitor none > of which the DVI lcd has so no use in buying an ADC card unless you > have an ADC monitor. >> >> And now the most important thing: FACEPLATE. >> >> On the $69 one i guess a user cannot simply switch the face plate as >> they would do with an Apple OEM Radeon right ? > I think the faceplate needs to be modified on any of the cards you get > and i'm not sure but i don't think you can switch the rage faceplate > with the geForce one because i think the spacing is different between > the adc and vga. >> >> It would need some mods to fit right ? >> >> Instead the $169 Radeon OEM will allow the user to simply unmount the >> original ATI Rage 128 face plate and switch it right ? >> Thanks in advance for your comments. ;-) >> >> Carlo Ambler