Dear Robert, Getting rid of the fan is a physical impossibility. But making sure the fan is among the quietest in the world is a research project worth of exploration by PowerLogix. If I was in that development team, I would have a full time fan expert finding the quietest variable speed fan with thermostatic feedback that is possible today. And I would be willing to pay a premium price for such a fan with the upgrade. k On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 02:52 PM, Christian Leue wrote: >>> In the meantime it might be wise to go with the company that has >>> been shipping these upgrades longer than anyone else and has been >>> shipping cards longer than, oh, 5 days. :) And a company that >>> already has a second generation design, too. ;).... >> >> >> In that case...maybe "in the meantime" you could drop the 800MHz card >> to $299? > > And get rid of the fan... I promise to buy the fattest dual Teraherz > model if you do... > > Cheers, > Christian