on 15/1/03 2:43 PM, Laurie A Duncan at laurie at cubeowner.com wonderfully said: > So here's what we know: some stock Apple machines have sleep problems. Some > PL upgraded machines have sleep problems. Some machines have no problems > with the Apple proc, but as soon as the PL card is installed, problems > occur. We still don't know why on either count, but it's clear there's > something "off" because it's hard to blame Apple for a problem that only > exists in some machines when a PL card is installed and it's hard to believe > it's a kernel issue, when the problem spans across multiple OS versions. Well summed up Laurie - that is my understanding exactly. My experience is: - Standard Cube running OS10.2 - no sleep problems - PL upgraded Cube running OS 10.2 - sleep coma Exactly the same setup. Only the hardware was different. Maybe there is something that I am missing, but to me it doesn't make sense labelling it a software problem? Simon